[00:00] <Unit193> mailwatch would be nice to have a release, but...if there's nothing...
[00:00] <Unit193> bluesabre: Have you seen Debian #1018862?
[00:00] <ubottu> Debian bug 1018862 in thunar "thunar: Double Click (double tap via touchscreen) failed to activate items during Icon View and Compact View" [Critical, Open] https://bugs.debian.org/1018862
[00:00] <bluesabre> ochosi: it works! (tested with Adwaita GTK and icon theme)
[00:01] <ochosi> \o/
[00:01] <ochosi> bluesabre: if you wanna add a comment to the PR I'd feel a little less bad about merging and releasing it straight away
[00:01] <ochosi> (or you can also merge it, fwiw)
[00:02] <Unit193> Approved. \o/
[00:05] <bluesabre> Unit193: re 1018862, I've not, but can test with it later (wife is out with my touchscreen laptop)
[00:06] <Unit193> If you can from that series, it'd be great.  I tried double clicking and it opened fine.  Thank you very much.
[00:06] <Unit193> bluesabre: ...I don't have a touchscreen laptop, or a wife! :>
[00:07] <bluesabre> :o
[00:11] <ochosi> ok, I think that might have been a record turnaround time for implementing a feature, getting a review and getting it released
[00:11] <ochosi> Unit193: thanks for handling the downstream bits!
[00:16] <bluesabre> 👏️
[00:18] <krytarik> Hard to see clapping hands there rather than a hand being on fire.. XD
[00:21] <ochosi> Unit193: ok, the Greybird fixes are in. unless you have other concerns, I'd do a quick release now
[00:21] <Unit193> I: xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin: spelling-error-in-binary Disconected Disconnected [usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/plugins/libpulseaudio-plugin.so]
[00:22] <Unit193> ochosi: Uploaded to Debian.
[00:23] <bluesabre> krytarik: maybe its both... clap fast enough and your hands ignite
[00:23] <Unit193> bluesabre: https://salsa.debian.org/xfce-team/goodies/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin/-/commit/8e54bf38d863e7b748d0d71ae88098809ce8fc3b
[00:23] <ubottu> Commit 8e54bf3 in xfce-team/goodies/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin "d/control, d/copyright: Update emails and attribution."
[00:24] <bluesabre> thanks Unit193
[00:24] <Unit193> Been trying to fix that everywhere for you.
[00:25] <Unit193> Any reason we shouldn't remove xfce4-statusnotifier-plugin?
[00:25] <ochosi> no, not really
[00:25] <ochosi> it should be dropped
[00:26] <ochosi> apart from 4.14 distros
[00:26] <ochosi> https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/releases/tag/v3.23.2
[00:26] <bluesabre> 🔥️👏️🔥️
[00:27] <ochosi> quite the release frenzy in the last 24 hrs
[00:27] <Unit193> bluesabre: ...Could I ask you to do that one, please? :)
[00:28] <ochosi> now it's time for some 😴
[00:28] <Unit193> krytarik: His hands are on fire now.
[00:28] <bluesabre> Unit193: sure thing!
[00:28] <Unit193> I guess I need to get -notifyd too...And file that RM bug.
[00:29] <ochosi> oh, and please let me know if a release of elementary-xfce helps
[00:29] <Unit193> Is there anything upstream that shows statusnotifier was obsolete?
[00:29] <Unit193> I'm...kinda using an older version right now. >_>
[00:30] <ochosi> Unit193: yes: https://docs.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-statusnotifier-plugin/start
[00:30] <Unit193> Thanks, will note that too.
[00:30] <ochosi> we could probably archive the git repo
[00:32] <Unit193> I'm the maintainer, I won't have a problem getting it removed.  Don't feel you need to.
[00:33] <ochosi> ok thanks!
[00:37] <Unit193> Thank you.
[00:37] <Unit193> Oh dang, I need to check -notifyd closely...
[00:38] <Unit193> ochosi: Re: email.  +1 from me.
[00:40] <Unit193> https://bugs.debian.org/1018985
[00:40] <ubottu> Debian bug 1018985 in ftp.debian.org "RM: xfce4-statusnotifier-plugin -- ROM; Obsolete upstream, functionality merged into systray plugin" [Normal, Open]
[00:44] <bluesabre> Unit193: https://salsa.debian.org/desktop-themes-team/greybird-gtk-theme/-/tree/debian/master should be ready to upload, but let me know if something is off
[00:45] <Unit193>  greybird-gtk-theme (3.23.2-1) jammy; urgency=medium
[00:45] <bluesabre> Ah crap
[00:45] <Unit193> Might as well bump S-V to 4.6.1
[00:46] <bluesabre> Yeah, I'm on jammy so behind on the latest S-V/lintian
[00:48] <bluesabre> Looks like we're even up to 4.6.1.1
[00:48] <Unit193> I have pbuilder run it in chroot, so it'd pull from unstable.
[00:48] <bluesabre> That's a smart setup
[00:48] <bluesabre> I should do that :D
[00:48] <Unit193> Well, the last digit is more of a "whoops, we need to adjust packaging"
[00:49] <bluesabre> Heading out for now though, not sure if you want to do anything more with the packaging or just upload (or I can do the more in the more-ning)
[00:49] <Unit193> https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.html#version-4-6-1 see?
[00:50] <Unit193> And nah, the only other one that *could* even be fixed is: P: greybird-gtk-theme source: update-debian-copyright 2011 vs 2022 [debian/copyright:10]
[00:50] <Unit193> I don't have git push rights, so I'll wait.
[00:50] <Unit193> Wait no, you did everything.
[00:50] <bluesabre> You do, I think, https://salsa.debian.org/desktop-themes-team/greybird-gtk-theme/-/commit/6dd4d976cfb35461577da67861dd3c03c7b17643
[00:50] <ubottu> Commit 6dd4d97 in desktop-themes-team/greybird-gtk-theme "Update changelog for release to unstable."
[00:51] <Unit193> https://salsa.debian.org/desktop-themes-team/greybird-gtk-theme/-/project_members oh
[00:52] <bluesabre> one of us!
[00:52] <genii> heh
[00:53] <Unit193> ...Someone here is a bit clueless it seems, and it's not you! :D
[01:02] <Unit193> xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin 0.4.4-1 uploaded by Unit 193 (unit193)
[01:39] <Unit193> greybird-gtk-theme 3.23.2-1 uploaded by Sean Davis <sean@bluesab...> https://tracker.debian.org/greybird-gtk-theme
[02:14] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin 0.4.4 released @ http://www.mail-archive.com/xfce-announce@xfce.org/msg00692.html
[11:03] <ochosi> 
[18:05] <ochosi> Unit193, bluesabre: do we have pipewire in the upcoming xubuntu as well? somebody reported problems with it and the recording indicator
[18:08] <bluesabre> ochosi, yes, it’s in there. Not sure if we wireplumber in our seed yet.
[18:15] <ochosi> k
[18:15] <ochosi> I mean after reading the comment a second time, it might be that the user is confused by the indicator showing up when pavucontrol is open
[18:15] <ochosi> the problem there is that that's actually recording... (even if it may not be storing any of the audio)
[18:16] <ochosi> bluesabre: ^
[20:15] <bluesabre> Yeah, “recording” might just be an active monitor is PulseAudio terms. I also noticed pavucontrol doing that on 22.04, where pipewire is installed but not the active sound server.
[21:07] <Unit193> I feel like I'm forgetting to sync something, or something...
[21:34] <Unit193> ochosi: Did you want me to test with pipewire?
[21:47] <ochosi> Unit193: that'd be great!
[21:54] <Unit193> Have I mentioned how much I hate switching over?  It's a terrible combo of trying to disable pulseaudio and getting the right invocation of pipewire...  Right now it's running, but no audio. \o/
[21:59] <ochosi> hah
[21:59] <ochosi> and I guess sorry for making you go through that
[22:01] <Unit193> OK, so what's supposed to be broken?  It seems fine to me.
[22:02] <Unit193> pavucontrol and mumble get the recording sign, when closed they go away.
[22:02] <ochosi> https://gitlab.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin/-/merge_requests/11#note_54506
[22:02] <ubottu> Merge 11 in panel-plugins/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin "Add a recording indicator" [Merged]
[22:03] <ochosi> yeah, getting rid of that for pavucontrol might be an improvement, but it doesn't look like a straightforward change tbh
[22:04] <Unit193> Opening and closing mpv with music doesn't get the flicker for me.
[22:08] <Unit193> ochosi: So, good job, I'd say it works. :P
[22:09] <Unit193> This is pipewire+wireplumber+pipewire-pulse, 0.3.56-1, 0.4.11-2
[22:27] <ochosi> noice
[22:27] <ochosi> thanks so much!