[01:44] do you have to type sudo gufw everytime you boot up to get behind a firewall or is there a way to automate it [02:09] laguna: Once you set it up it should come up with networking (and shut down with it). [02:09] !gufw [02:09] Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as gufw and ufw-kde also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo [02:16] ubottu thanks for the reference pages i will try to set up automatic without having to use gufw [02:26] laguna: gufw should do it, but it's really good to get at that low level table stuff and know that you're in control. [02:26] laguna: PS: Ubottu's our bot. [02:27] How can I allow non-root users to add new WiFi networks in Ubuntu 22.04 LTS? [02:27] hutchins ok thanks [02:28] anaximander: Could you explain the conditions that make this necessary? [02:29] anaximander: sudo allows users to execute specified commands with root privilege, but it's text/console oriented. [02:31] jhutchins: Sorry, I meant without sudo or root access. The issue is I'm trying to configure a laptop for my son who's 10. I'd like for him not to have sudo access yet, but he'll need to be able to connect to the WiFi network at school without sudo/root access [02:31] I can find instructions for older versions of Ubuntu on how to adjust the network manager or polkit settings to allow this, but I'm having trouble finding instructions for 22.04... [02:32] anaximander: sudo doesn't necessarily mean full root access - like I said, it can be done on a per-command basis. [02:33] anaximander: If you could get the ssid and credentials for the school network, you could make it an option in network manager that an ordinary user could enadble. [02:33] once connected and stored in keyring, no need for root access anymore. [02:33] If I recall correctly, you don't need root access to connect to wifi if you're logged in to a graphical session. You only need root if you want to store the wifi connection for all users [02:33] ' available for all users' option in settings. [02:33] jhutchins: Yes, but then I either need to give my son sudo privileges - which I'd like to avoid - or give him my password - which I'd also like to avoid. There must be a way to allow a user without sudo privileges to connect to a new wifi network... [02:34] KushalKumaran[m]: It does prompt for a sudo password when you try to connect, though maybe I could test to see what happens if you just decline... [02:34] anaximander, then you need to park your car in front of the school, use sudo and grant access. [02:34] just once. [02:35] Another option is to give your son root access, audit his usage, and develop trust and responsibility. [02:37] oerheks: That is one hack, but there has to be a more elegant solution... I'd also have to do that for my in-laws, my parents', my sister's place, etc. Like, doable as a regular workaround, but surely there's a way to edit the setting... [02:38] anaximander: I still think restricted sudo privileges are probably what you have in mind. [02:38] jhutchins: Oh, maybe - so that it grants narrow privileges... [02:38] anaximander: Editing the settings is exactly the kind of thing that takes root privileges. [02:39] anaximander: Exactly. You can enable a single command with specific arguments, with or without the user's password. [02:39] KushalKumaran[m]: Yeah, when I try to connect to a wifi network as a user without sudo privileges, it says "System policy settings prevent the modification of network settings for all users" [02:40] Mrmph. Sure would be nice if something said WHERE those policies are, since _you_ didn't set them. [02:40] The instructions I've found for Ubuntu from ~2012 to 2018 involve modifying policy kit or network manager settings to allow users to add their own wifi networks though, seems a lot simpler... [02:41] anaximander: Yeah, that sounds likely. GUI networking is not my thing, I'll let someone who knows it better take this on. [02:41] anaximander: You'll be interested in the subtler uses of sudo though. [02:42] jhutchins: Thanks for your help, and I'd totally forgotten about sublter uses of sudo - I have done that once on a server before, but years back. Thanks for the reminder! [02:48] Aha, figured it out with some googlefu - modifiying this polkit file for NetworkManager worked! https://code.luasoftware.com/tutorials/linux/ubuntu-prompt-system-policy-prevents-modification-of-network-settings-for-all-users/ Thanks all === tom is now known as Guest5843 [03:06] I downloaded a raspberry pi .img file, and I would like to shrink one of the partitions in this file. I run 'tune2fs -l /dev/loop0p2' and noticed that there many Reserved blocks on it. I decreased number of reserved blocks, but still cannot shrink that filesystem. How do I approach debugging this problem? [03:14] Guest5843, the easiest way is to re-create the img file (https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-image-legacy); the image file is intended to be RO/unchanged [04:13] I was looking at kernel headers on my ubuntu 18.04(5.4.0 kernel) P. In a syscall I was looking which should have some flags supported on 4.2 and above according to man pages. I couldnt find the same flag in my kernel headers. [04:46] Palemoon + adobeflash-plugin worked fine in 20.04 for old edu apps, fails in 22.04, but works in 22.04 either on VMs or when nomodeset is defined on real boxes. [04:46] What should I test as a workaround, an older kernel or an older xorg? [05:40] hello [05:44] bf: Hi! Anything we can help you with? [05:47] @arraybolt3, Hi, just testing IRC. I haven't used this in years and did not know it is still popular. [05:47] bf: Quite popular, actually. This particular channel is for live chat support if you need help with your Ubuntu system. [05:48] There's also channels for general chat, like #ubuntu-offtopic. [05:48] good morning all [05:48] (And there's plenty of other IRC networks out there - Libera.Chat is mostly open-source software stuff.) [05:49] EriC^^: o/ [05:49] arraybolt3: o/ [05:49] @arraybolt3, Ok, thank you. I will check that out. I thought you would need to register a nickname and a password to connect to a channel, but it seems to just work without that here. [05:49] bf: Some channels will require you to register first, but a lot of them don't. [05:50] bf: If you'd like, I can find the registration instructions so that you can get into all of the channels (except private ones, obviously). [05:55] @arraybolt3, Thanks. But I have to leave soon so I will check that out later. [05:55] bf: https://libera.chat/guides/registration for whenever you feel like it or find the need to use it. Thanks for stopping by! [05:57] @arraybolt3, Thank you. I look into it later. Bye! === westor is now known as Guest9549 === TonyL is now known as DarkG === dorcas is now known as sadness === sadness is now known as sadness2 === ericus90 is now known as ericus9 === mouldy_cheese_er is now known as mouldy_cheese === krabador is now known as Guest4637 [09:08] I have a dependency problem I can not install clang [09:08] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [09:08] clang : Depends: clang-16 (>= 16~) but it is not going to be installed [09:08] I also tried adding the respective reporsitries here https://apt.llvm.org/ [09:10] I am running 18.04 and I added bionic repos but still same issue, tried the script and still same issue [09:10] Ali_A: did you add external ppa's of any kind to your system? [09:10] yes, [09:11] The ones from https://apt.llvm.org/ [09:11] Ali_A: unmet dependencys often arise when external ppa's conflict with the way apt does things [09:11] I have not definitely add anything before I got that error [09:12] Ali_A: you could share a pastebin apt apt's full output + your sources.list so volunteers can take a look for you [09:12] *with [09:15] lotuspsychje [09:15] do you mind how can I share the full output [09:15] like what exactly you want? [09:17] Ali_A: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [09:18] I am running through ssh so give me sometime it is hard to copy things [09:19] Ali_A: if you on cli, you can try pastebinit or termbin [09:19] !pastebinit [09:19] pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit [09:20] https://pastebin.com/f3V45WY3 [09:21] IDK if this is useful but I am running ubuntu through ec2 [09:22] Ali_A: ok tnx, now pastebin the output apt gives you after installing clang? [09:22] ~$ sudo apt install clang [09:22] Reading package lists... Done [09:22] Building dependency tree [09:22] Reading state information... Done [09:22] Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have [09:22] requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable [09:23] in a pastebin plz Ali_A [09:25] Ali_A: ok share again in your paste now [09:25] https://pastebin.com/ypLENXYS [09:25] hmm [09:26] Ali_A: what gives sudo apt autoremove [09:26] give me a sec + btw, I tried older version of clang so it is not about the latest clang version [09:26] auto remove says nothing [09:27] lingopad [09:27] I mean like 0 installed 0 upgraded 0 remove [09:27] no sure then why clang does that then [09:27] maybe someone else might have an idea to try Ali_A [09:27] do I need a specific component because I am running a VM [09:27] aws VM [10:23] so, I just did a do-release-upgrade to 22.04 (from 20.04) and the behavior of the tty is super weird and annoying. it keeps automatically switching from tty1 to tty7 - is there a way to disable this? [10:31] dreamer are you running xorg/wayland session or graphic login manager? try to terminate/kill the graphic sessions if any and tell us if it keeps switching tty. [10:32] so, my problem was kinda solved, there was a commented line on llvm I didn't do and now I installed it [10:32] !yay Ali_A [10:32] the problem is I installed an older version of clang and I don't know how to remove it, when I try to remove clang it selects clang 16 but I am sure clang 6 is installed [10:58] hi is there any screen flags to make screen attach to a (first one, random doesn't matter) detached session? [11:01] oxfuxxx: there should be lightdm, but it never starts. I need to install the nvidia driver first which is not enabled yet [11:01] it seems that killing lightdm did the trick (even though it never started in the first place. probably was stuck in some restart loop I guess ..) === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [11:07] so `ubuntu-drivers devices` command doesn't return anything. what am I missing? [11:07] hello [11:08] these drivers should be in multiverse no? [11:08] missed it, which driver di you need ? [11:11] whatever is the latest available for gtx1080 [11:11] I see the latest official is `515.65.01` [11:11] but I doubt this is in ubuntu [11:11] I can't find any atm [11:12] !nvidia | dreamer [11:12] dreamer: Drivers for Nvidia graphics cards: (A) No gaming/CAD/CUDA needed or legacy hardware? Use "nouveau" (open source, lacks many features). (B) Otherwise, "nvidia" (proprietary driver, fully featured). Install using "ubuntu-drivers" CLI or apt - not from nvidia.com. Driver series, hardware support (release notes): https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ - Latest drivers !PPA: https://pad.lv/ppa/graphics-drivers [11:12] have you tried the graphical installer ? had no issue installing a recent nvidia driver [11:12] why would I use a graphical installer? [11:12] I don't even have xorg running atm .. [11:13] lotuspsychje: as said `ubuntu-drivers` doesn't install anything [11:13] I don't see any `nvidia-driver*` package in apt [11:13] on focal in Files places Devices I get "not authorized" when clicking the label/IdLabel corresponding to /dev/sda2. sda2 is "660" and group "disk", running "groups" include "disk", rebooted multiple times since user was added to supplementary group "disk". Running udiskctl mount -b /dev/sda2 mounts it successfully. How to collect information why Files responds "not authorized"? [11:14] so I'm wondering is the do-release-upgrade disabled some extra repos that contain the driver? [11:14] (I can't find which, but possibly that's the issue?) [11:16] !info nvidia-driver-515 [11:16] nvidia-driver-515 (515.65.01-0ubuntu0.22.04.1, jammy): NVIDIA driver metapackage. In component restricted, is optional. Built by nvidia-graphics-drivers-515. Size 457 kB / 1,611 kB. (Only available for amd64, arm64.) [11:18] again: this package does not exist on my system [11:18] I am on amd64 [11:18] then you do not have the restricted componoent enabled [11:18] which repo does this package reside in? [11:19] I have no idea what "restricted component" is. I don't use ubuntu regularly. usually am on debian and this is unusual :) [11:19] well, in debian you have main, non-free etc [11:19] ^^ [11:19] restricted is the supported bit of "non-free" in ubuntu [11:19] ok, so I need `main universe multiverse restricted` ? [11:19] (the unsupported portion is called "multiverse") [11:19] right [11:20] that should always be there by default [11:20] well it is not :) [11:20] maybe not on a server install. and as you have no GUI that may be the install you did [11:21] I have no GUI because the driver is broken [11:21] but I did originally start this system (~4 years ago?) as a server install because it has the least cruft [11:21] a default focal install usually has retricted enabled and an upgrade does not disable it [11:21] ok, fingers crossed that `ubuntu-drivers autoinstall` does the trick :) [11:21] so no idea what happened there [11:22] yeah no idea, I didn't modify these files, the release upgrade did :) [11:25] hmm, lightdm still isn't starting [11:25] and KMS is broken now [11:25] dreamer: sudo lshw -C video, did driver pickup? [11:26] restricted holds network card drivers, so it is also always ebaled on server installs [11:26] lotuspsychje: hmm, how do I know if it's using the driver? [11:26] (and possibly also controller drivers for some weird disk controllers) [11:26] I mean I see the card there [11:26] nvidia-smi works [11:26] dreamer: at bottom: driver=.... [11:27] ah: `configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0` [11:27] lspci -k works too ... [11:27] so, driver is running. but kms wasn't done and lightdm doesn't start [11:28] restarting lightdm flickrs the screens a bit. then just see a blinking cursor. will check the logs I guess .. [11:28] wich flavour of ubuntu are you on dreamer [11:28] sudo systemctl get-default [11:28] what does this give ? [11:28] maybe you are on text only mode [11:28] yeah lightdm just fails to start [11:28] `graphical.target` [11:29] lotuspsychje: iirc ubuntu server install. and then added xorg/fluxbox/etc. manually [11:29] this was years ago. went from 18.04 -> 20.04 and now -> 22.04 [11:29] `xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1080 [11:30] that's weird [11:31] ok this is probably the lightdm userscript I had that set displays. lets disable that [11:32] fluxbox .. pretty old thing. 1.5.3 released in 2013 [11:32] if it's stable you don't have to fix it [11:32] (there's only a single bug I've encountered in the past ~decade that still needs fixing ..) [11:33] ok! I think I have a working session! thnx all [11:33] still annoying that kms doesn't work. terminal looks super weird [11:33] but I'm in xorg now so it's all good man [11:34] oh right, I forgot that it installed firefox via snap and now it's unusable -_- [11:36] FF transition worked like a charm for my upgrade [11:37] it doesn't open my profile at all [11:39] dreamer: before upgrading, its always wise to read the releasenotes [11:39] will prevent a lot of furstrations afterwards [11:41] uhg, I hate snap so much :) [11:41] like why the F would I want a folder called `snap` in my home dir .. [11:41] [11:41] ok thnx [11:41] hope this is the last of my frustrations for today .. [11:58] hi, snap refresh is unable to update snap-store, because it is already running. Is there a workaround here? Should I just kill it? [12:09] imi, just kill it or wait til the timer runs out and it does a forced upgrade on its own === dionysus70 is now known as dionysus69 [13:02] I'm trying to debug an issue I'm having on Ubuntu server 18.04. It looks like the error is getting collected by apport, but this is new to me and I don't know where it logs anything. Can anyone help? [13:02] g105b: .. [13:03] Hi! Does anyone know if Ubuntu 22.04 will support mongodb packages in the future? It seems that the mongodb team is quite close to release packages compatible with libssl3 on their PPA [13:04] Hi all [13:04] Dan39, I'm aware I'm a newb, but that's why I'm asking here. [13:04] g105b: ... [13:05] https://popey.com/blog/2021/03/finding-ubuntu-crash-reports/ [13:05] Do your dots mean I'm asking a silly question? [13:05] xdg-open https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/$(sudo cat /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id) [13:05] g105b: dots mean you haven't even asked a question lol [13:05] that shows all your bugreports [13:05] what is wrong? you didn't say at all [13:05] best thing is to have alaunchpad account. [13:06] Dan39, he asked a question. [13:06] just that you are getting a notification about a error collected? [13:08] g105b: does something else happen, or just the notification? [13:08] A piece of software on my server is generating a core dump. I looked in /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern and it shows that apport is used to collect the dump, but I don't know what apport is or where it logs to. [13:09] is it secret info what the name of this software is? [13:09] No, it's a PHP script. [13:09] apport collects logs and other info, and sends it to launchpad. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport [13:12] OK thanks, looks like I can configure where the coredumps are output locally. [13:16] Now I need to figure out what the hell a core dump is :D [13:18] haha, google will tell you :P [13:21] with something like php, which i think isn't really supposed to core dump (i mean, no program really should, but php should prevent a script from causing a core dump i think) i wonder if you will get any useful information from it [13:22] g105b: what does the apport info say? [13:25] I'm sitting here on a big mystery. When my TV is turned off, the Ubuntu machine will become somewhat unresponsive so I can't VNC into it. I need to turn ON the TV. After about a minute I can VNC back into the Ubuntu machine. I captured the syslog here. That is what i saw when I tailed the file. https://controlc.com/72ae1ee0 [13:25] Any pointers? [13:26] wow that is the worst pastebin i've ever seen [13:31] Dan39, the most coherent message from apport I've extracted so far is "Program terminated with signal SIGABRT, Aborted." but I was hoping to be able to see a backtrace or something - there's 20MB of information in the crash file, so I'm sure there's something in there that I could use to debug this. [13:41] Dan39: I didn't know here was a rule on how to copy/paste a log. [13:47] ViperXL75: did i say there was? [13:48] ViperXL75: could you grab more logs, that looks kinda cut off. journalctl capturing logs there? maybe pastebin the full `journalctl -b` and topic says Pastes to https://paste.ubuntu.com/ [13:48] Hello! When I type "fire" into the start menu, multiple "Firefox" show up. I would like to delete them all except one. But how? [13:50] Looks like its files in /home/user/.local/share/applications/ [13:50] no_gravity, take a look in ~/.local/share/applications [13:50] oh, you already got there. [13:50] no_gravity: what version of ubuntu and how did you install firefox? [13:50] hello, can you check in software center? maybe you have multiple versions (snap, deb..) [13:50] g105b: Yeah, will delete them there now [13:50] no_gravity, That's where I manage things in the application menu. You can grep the files in there for mention of firefox. [13:50] no_gravity: hold on [13:50] no_gravity: that is not the correct solution [13:51] leftyfb: Why not? [13:51] no_gravity: what version of ubuntu and how did you install firefox? [13:51] no_gravity, maybe you used Software Centre to install firefox with deb and flatpak/snap/whatever ? [13:51] leftyfb: Can't really remember. I guess FF was there from the start? How do I find my Ubuntu version? [13:52] g105b: Not that I remember. [13:52] ^ that's what i was thinking. do you maybe have both a snap and a system package of it installed at same time? but the system package shouldn't put a destkop file into ~/.local afaik [13:52] so maybe a snap and a flatpak at same time? [13:52] Dan39: I don't think I have a snap of FF. [13:52] though i guess you could've also done it manually by accident [13:52] no_gravity: ( cat /etc/os-release ; apt-cache policy firefox ; snap search firefox|grep ^firefox ) | nc termbin.com 9999 [13:53] Dan39: Ohhhh hold on. Now I know what the pain is. Lemme grab some more logs. [13:53] leftyfb: 20.04.5 LTS (Focal Fossa) [13:53] ViperXL75: based on the timestamps in that 1st log it looks like gdm didn't even start booting up until the TV was on [13:54] leftyfb: "snap search firefox" only lists installed snaps? [13:54] no_gravity: ( cat /etc/os-release ; apt-cache policy firefox ; snap search firefox|grep ^firefox ) | nc termbin.com 9999 [13:56] I removed all the .desktop files from ~/.local/share/applications now except the one FF entry I want to keep. Do I need to restart the DE now? [13:56] Because they still show up when I type "fire" into the start menu. [13:57] Dan39: This is the bigger capture. I just removed some entries of jellyfin cuz it floods my log. https://controlc.com/d7241f35 [13:57] no_gravity: good luck [13:58] Holy moly, trying to reload the DE I presse CTRL+ALT+ESC. Some x appeared. I clicked and now there is no desktop at all anymore! [13:58] Where am I now? In nirvana? My windows are still there. But no desktop :) [13:58] ViperXL75: what ubuntu release are you using? [13:59] i think 20 [13:59] hold on [13:59] ViperXL75: is there a reason you aren't using https://paste.ubuntu.com/ ? just a friendly question [14:00] you realize that controlc site is very annoying to scroll the paste on, and when loaded half the entire page is an ad [14:01] need an account for that [14:01] i take that back about stupid paste.ubuntu.com , last i recall i did not have to login to paste. wow. [14:01] for paste.ubuntu.com [14:01] sorry [14:02] any pastebin without javascript will do; termbin.com [14:02] termbin.com is nice [14:02] also good [14:02] sec [14:02] Dan39, that was before it was abused for things like credit card data lists and such 😉 [14:02] Ha, I typed "plasmashell" and now my desktop is back. [14:03] ogra: so maybe they should've filtered them out better haha, but i guess the bad guys keep getting around the filters or something, whatever [14:03] (the team was simply not able to manage all the teardown requests anymore that came from authorities) [14:03] ViperXL75: could you look at `journalctl -b` make sure there is nothing you don't want pasted, pipe that thru ur grep then pipe thru termbin.com [14:04] But Firefox still shows up multiple times :/ [14:04] Gonna restart ... [14:04] ogra: sounds like they should've gotten better at preventing those people from creating pastes in the first place instead of being reactive and having to remove them (without creating a login haha) [14:05] but whatever, just use different pastebin now [14:05] only one of the persons needs to be logged in btw ... if the poster was logged in, the viewer does not get a request ... and the other way around [14:06] the other way around? i can give him a URL to paste with ? [14:06] yuo can use i.e. pastebinit from cmdline ... and the viewer will be asked to log in first [14:07] o_O [14:07] neat i guess [14:07] or you log in and paste through a browser and the viewer will not be asked [14:07] gocha [14:07] it is a tradeoff indeed ... [14:13] Dan39: Oh goodness. I looooove termbin.com. Thanks man. Here's the output: https://termbin.com/covz8 [14:16] So you are running debian? [14:20] oerheks: what makes you say that, because you see the debian-sa1 messages? [14:20] yes? never seen those before [14:21] looks like a package that ubuntu probably provides [14:21] https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/amd64/sysstat/filelist [14:22] -> /usr/lib/sysstat/debian-sa1 [14:23] ViperXL75: i'm trying to think of a decent solution to your issue. i wonder if anyone else has any thoughts... [14:24] ViperXL75: i have a feeling it is acting as expected. gdm won't start if there is no monitor connected... i myself would probably try to make a custom Xorg.conf to specify a specific resolution etc. for this scenario, but not sure if there is a more proper solution === popey6 is now known as popey [14:29] in my experience, indeed linux/xorg has some troubles initializing Xorg if the monitor is not connected during bootup, which i assume the TV is acting like in the scenario. most monitors go into a default power save mode i believe, instead of completely off, so will communicate resolution info even when "off". maybe the TV doesn't do that [14:31] maybe it is this old VNC issue https://askubuntu.com/questions/1033436/how-to-use-ubuntu-18-04-on-vnc-without-display-attached [14:33] oerheks: sure, you can run a VNC server, but by the sounds of ViperXL75 having it connected to a TV, i was thinking he probably wants to use it on the TV at a later point [14:33] ViperXL75: do you want to be able to use the TV later? like is this a media PC you are making? [14:33] or is only headless fine? [14:42] Dan39: this is indeed a mediaPC. The "tv" that I'm talking about is actually the HDMI-input of my xbox. So i can remotely turn on the Xbox (within the same LAN) and then I can get to the PC. [14:43] But i've been slowly checking around about an idea how to do this. [14:44] oerheks: reading about that old question. [14:46] The setup is a PC that does some SMB share, some mediaserer, some mediaplayer to the TV, some emulator. Just a bit of everything. xD === Probie9689 is now known as Probie968 [14:56] ViperXL75: So the XBox does HDMI passthrough? [14:57] some xbox's have hdmi in, to pass your cable company through [14:57] maybe you need an app installed? [14:59] hmmm, interesting scenario. i see some pretty old posts about setting an xorg option IgnoreEDID and then configuring specific resolution modes. seems like mixed results. my thought is to get Xorg to start up and output with a specific modeline without any monitor connected. i'm not sure it is possible though. some report that the gfx card won't allow it [15:01] ViperXL75: what do you VNC in to do? if you need to just do some configuration and stuff maybe run a separate vnc server for just that. if you need to configure like your mediaplayer via it's GUI then that might not be an option though i guess, unless you configure it via VNC first, then close it and re-open once the xbox/TV is turned on [15:02] but depends on exactly what you want to do via VNC [15:04] ViperXL75, is there any reason that you do not use the built in VNC server of the desktop and instead added xvnc (which is really old and crappy) ? [15:05] since when is x11vnc crappy? [15:05] your log clearly shows xvnc gets an EDID event from your Tv an shuts down until it sees the TV EDID again [15:05] Dan39, well, it is old and crusty 🙂 [15:05] old sure, not crappy in my experience. better than the other options. i've tested. had the best performance and reliablity (compard to builtin X and also other x0vncserver or whatever setups) [15:05] and GNOME comes with a VNC server builtin [15:06] you just need to enable it [15:06] GNOME wayland or xorg? [15:06] both [15:06] jups [15:06] i doubt that crap is any good [15:06] (it defaults to RDP on wayland though) [15:06] but i haven't tested the GNOME builtin one tbh [15:06] well, it will work integrated with the desktop and not trigget itsef on/off on random EDID events [15:06] *trigger [15:07] (i assume at lest) [15:07] i tested the Xorg builtin (turned on via Xorg.conf) and i believe he one from tigervnc and tightvnc, and x11vnc [15:08] ogra: but will GNOME even start up if no monitor is connected at all? if it will, that may be a good solution here to try [15:08] it should ... and you should indeed set up auto-login so a session starts [15:09] ogra: how would it know the resolution? [15:09] it will default to one i guess ... you have to try [15:09] ViperXL75: are you using GNOME? [15:10] i assume so since i see gdm, but let's not assume [15:10] in any case i think the builtin one is the better choice [15:10] in this case it might be because of the scenario [15:10] performance and reliablity wise when i tested about 2 years ago it wasn't ;) [15:18] actually, i'm not sure if Xorg itself has it's own builtin, from what i could find it looks like the "builtin extension" would be the tigervnc-xorg-extension === Probie9680 is now known as Probie968 [15:28] Hey! I read "/usr/lib/systemd/system-generators/netplan failed with exit status 1" in syslog, but where do we find logs for netplan? [15:30] alkisg: bug #1988681 i requested an apport-collect maybe related to yours? [15:30] Bug 1988681 in virtualbox (Ubuntu) "Since the last Ubuntu update, Virtualbox VM's crash." [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1988681 [15:32] !info yamllint [15:32] yamllint (1.26.3-1, jammy): Linter for YAML files. In component universe, is optional. Built by yamllint. Size 37 kB / 182 kB [15:35] Hi lotuspsychje , no my case was "data corruption", not "crashes"; I solved it by installing vbox from oracle instead of from ubuntu's repositories [15:35] kk [15:35] not sure netplan writes a log.. , one can try; sudo netplan –d apply # to debug [15:37] yay, 3.3 arrived https://snapcraft.io/blender === Scotty_Trees3 is now known as Scotty_Trees === Probie9685 is now known as Probie968 [16:07] Hi anybody here? === Probie9688 is now known as Probie968 === Probie9688 is now known as Probie968 === Probie9686 is now known as Probie968 [17:04] Ubunrusoul is here, just ask [17:05] !ask!chaotix [17:05] !ask |chaotix [17:05] chaotix: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [17:06] morganu, long gone.. [17:13] I have been having a problem of "browser" slowing down my 20.04 when "browser" ={chrome,firfox} and the prob builds up slowly. I have been having it for 2 years. Working solution: kill "browser" before it gets too slow, else logout if possible|hold power button. AND memtest86+ freezes in the first cycle AND the "built-in Dell hardware-tester says all is perfect. (Temps has been checked) - - - What else could [17:13] I do to diagnose this issue? (Used computer from friend who cant give report, I rewrote the whole hard drive with 20.04 - - and thatnks. [17:16] oerheks, , minor victory. I successfully=remembered how to use ubbottu [17:18] I would like to try to diagose this again before installing 22.04 [17:21] morganu: This does not seem to be a Well Known Problem. Even on low-resource systems, browsers tend to adapt to what is available and usually work just fine. [17:22] morganu: What hardware do you have? Have you partitioned your drive? Does the system swap? Have you tried clearing the browser cache? [17:23] morganu: I presume you're using the default gnome desktop, which is pretty heavy. You could try lxde or xfce - no need to re-install, just add the new DE and try it. [17:24] falkon browser is pretty lightweight too [17:25] HW Dell optiplex 9020 =, not partitioned --Does the system Swap? (I let Ubuntu set up swap if that's what you mean, aka vanilla). - - I dont recall about browser cache [How do I do that?] - - [17:27] only "special' thing I run is U-tweaks for the dock position. - - Every desktop I try (budgie, matae) fails in some way. I dont remembe if I tried gnome-classic this time aka with 22.04) - - isnt xfce a really different windows only not gui environment??? [17:28] morganu: Linux desktop environments run "on top of" the text-based CLI environment, which is always present. [17:28] lotuspsychje, I run many windows butnow am down to say under 30 and it was slowing down. (So I decided to use brave today, lol. [17:29] morganu: XFCE is a very nice lightweight desktop, it just does what I want and stays out of the way. It does not have as many integrated applications as gnome. [17:30] jhutchins, yes. I am only interested in using a gui. (now) - - later I have asirations but it is or will be over 90 in here again... [17:30] morganu: https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/32050?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop [17:30] morganu: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-clear-firefox-cache [17:30] tomreyns and I worked over this a couple of years ago and I gave up. [17:31] I will look up chrome-cache. [17:32] morganu: The optiplex looks like it came with windows 10, so it shouldn't have any problem with a current linux distro. [17:32] morganu: How much RAM? [17:33] 8 gigs of ram. [17:34] I dont want to lose my saved passwords. Or history. Or bookmarkes. - they are not cookies and ther site data, are they? [17:36] OK noted: chrome just started up 294MBy f cache data cleared. [17:37] Now I will see what that does. Cold I have a sucker program (made up that term) running? [17:37] l [17:38] Please remember that MEMTEST86+ freezes in the first cycle. *** [17:40] Wait wait dont tell me:: I am looking up THAT and got some results. Y'all thanks but wait until I check this aspect out. - First time I learched this. [17:40] searched/googles/ducked it... [17:45] someone said: The most likely cause - LP #1876157: Memtest86+ in Ubuntu 20.04 doesn't work. So if the memtest you ran was from Ubuntu 20.04 images, try running memtest from Ubuntu 18.04 images. [17:45] Launchpad bug 1876157 in memtest86+ (Baltix) "Memtest86+ in Ubuntu 20.04 doesn't work, switch to Coreboot branch or package new release v5.31b is available since 12/04/2020" [Medium, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1876157 [17:45] hello I installed kubuntu but I need safe graphic boot entry in grub [17:45] how to do that? [17:46] add nomosedet or use Recovery nyo [17:46] *nomodeset [17:46] IIR I can run memtest from before-the-boot from a USB. - - Is this true? Do I have to do anything special like hold down some key during the boot? I dont remember that choice shoing up like it did with theCD boot versions. [17:46] ok I press e at grub menu and I have codes [17:46] where should I write nomodeset? [17:47] just in a new line? [17:47] nyo, in the 'Linux' line after splash [17:47] like linux /boot/vmlinuz-etc nomodeset ? [17:48] yes [17:49] ok I am trying thanks [17:49] no prob [17:49] battery low on this laptop will reconnect [18:08] nomodeset is an option during the 1st stage of install, with F6 IIRC === diskin is now known as Guest7146 === diskin_ is now known as diskin [18:29] Anyone have scrunched / squished search bar in "Show Applications" window in Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS? Running in a VM using VMware Workstation. [18:30] SpankySpank: Have you loaded the VMWare drivers? [18:31] Yep - VMWARE tools were loaded. [18:31] I'll check again though. [18:37] OK - here's what I get there.... [18:37] https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/3XVmfgJcMs/ === supay is now known as supay_got_banned [18:41] hello [18:52] OS otherwise seems to be working fine. [19:34] I have an ubuntu server 20.04 and I am trying to install a python package with pip and I keep getting an error that the package is only for python 3.9 and up [19:34]