[07:08] <ochosi> Unit193: sean also seemed to lean towards pushing point releases downstream, so I guess I'll just try to get this finished asap
[07:10] <Unit193> Defer to him over me on this stuff, but yay. \o/
[11:46] <bluesabre> ochosi: thanks! And yeah, releases are good :)
[21:50] <Unit193> https://deb.li/J6Jd wait what?  Sounds on volume change is desired?
[22:00] <ochosi> Unit193: I think it's an ok optional feature to have (other OSs have it too)
[22:00] <ochosi> also, as opposed to the original MR, it's disabled by default
[22:00] <arraybolt3[m]> I like it when my system does that.
[22:00] <Unit193> Thankgoodness disabled by default. :D
[22:00] <Unit193> https://hg.guido-berhoerster.org/projects/package-update-indicator/rev/f27122a7bb02 \o/
[22:00] <arraybolt3[m]> Let's me know that the speakers are working and that the sound volume really did change.
[22:02] <Unit193> (We don't use package-update-indicator, but it's a great option if one doesn't want the Ubuntu update stuff.)
[22:02] <ochosi> cool
[22:06] <Unit193> ..I use this ~elsewhere~ too by default, so of course I'm the maintainer in Debian now. >_<
[22:08] <ochosi> :D
[22:09] <ochosi> this one I'm actually unsure about... https://gitlab.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin/-/merge_requests/5
[22:09] <ubottu> Merge 5 in panel-plugins/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin "Show volume notification even if volume is already at max/min" [Opened]
[22:09] <ochosi> not showing a notification atm is intentional, because there's no volume _change_, but I see how not showing a notification anymore can be confusing
[22:09] <ochosi> I think some notification daemons show some "overshoot" effect when this happens
[22:15] <Unit193> That'd be helpful, too bad xfce4-notifyd can't. :>
[22:22] <ochosi> not yet, at least
[22:22] <ochosi> I'm curious how Gnome handles this case (cause they do have this particular feature implemented)
[22:22] <ochosi> maybe there's an additional hint in the notification spec that they added that we could piggy-back on
[22:30] <Unit193> I use over 100% sometimes, so I'd appreciate such a feature but by no means is it critical.
[22:31] <ochosi> same here
[22:31] <ochosi> mostly curious
[22:37] <Unit193> Anything else I can/should do?
[22:38] <Unit193> Ah yes, pick up the new notifyd...
[22:38] <ochosi> I'll soon try to do another pulseaudio release
[22:38] <ochosi> hopefully this week
[22:39] <ochosi> the 'overdrive' support in gnome shell is a little involved and not really using the notification spec at all
[22:39] <ochosi> they handle volume and brightness events separately
[22:39] <Unit193> Of course they do...
[22:47] <ochosi> ok, I think I have a rough idea what is needed, and it's not even hacky
[22:47] <ochosi> first we'd need support for it in pulseaudio-plugin (currently we seem to cap volume increases at 100% - so likely an option to allow 'overdrive')
[22:47] <ochosi> then support for it in notifyd is not that hard