| dunpeal | Is snap going to eventually replace apt? If not, what would be the division of labor between them? | 00:41 |
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| genii | "problematic" | 00:50 |
| arraybolt3[m] | dunpeal: Probably not. Ubuntu actually has a pure-Snap variant called Ubuntu Core, but it's not even close to something you could use for desktop use. I think it's mainly designed for IOT stuff. | 01:26 |
| dunpeal | arraybolt3: I see, so how will the division of duties be between the two? Which packages will be managed by Snap, and which by Apt? | 02:24 |
| arraybolt3[m] | dunpeal: No clue. Might be interesting to debate about it in #ubuntu-discuss:libera.chat. | 02:25 |
| arraybolt3 | (Oh thanks Matrix. I meant #ubuntu-discuss.) | 02:25 |
| dunpeal | arraybolt3: I'm on Matrix too, and I think it worked. I pinged you in #ubuntu-discuss:libera.chat | 02:29 |
| arraybolt3[m] | dunpeal: Oh I forgot that LOL. It looked wrong in IRC, but in Matrix it worked right. So I guess 👍️ | 02:30 |
| KBar | Morning! How can I disable kernel updates? They're messing up my Oracle VM VirtualBox kinetic guest. | 06:24 |
| arraybolt3[m] | KBar: I think you can just uninstall the latest broken kernel with apt and it will automatically make the updates stop while also rolling back the bad update. | 06:25 |
| KBar | I tried uninstalling the new version a couple of days ago and the whole process broke the VM in the end. Perhaps I did it wrong. I had to chroot and update the initramfs. | 06:29 |
| KBar | I just don't want `apt upgrade` to ever upgrade them. I did `apt-mark hold ...` is it enough? | 06:30 |
| arraybolt3 | KBar: Dunno, it might be. | 06:31 |
| alkisg | Hi all; what's the current kernel in 22.10 live cds? | 07:05 |
| arraybolt3[m] | !info linux-image-generic kinetic | 07:06 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (lets see if this does it) | 07:06 |
| ubottu | linux-image-generic (5.19.0.15.15, kinetic): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Built by linux-meta. Size 3 kB / 20 kB. (Only available for amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x.) | 07:06 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Newest ISOs were built today, so that's probably the kernel. | 07:06 |
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| alkisg | Thank you arraybolt3 :) | 07:59 |
| alkisg | (want to test a sound issue with a new laptop with amd 4800something; sound won't work in previous releases) | 07:59 |
| arraybolt3[m] | alkisg: No problem. I also happen to have a Kinetic ISO booted in a VM right now and can confirm the kernel version is in fact 5.19. | 08:00 |
| Rastersoft | Hi all | 09:04 |
| Rastersoft | I'm having problems with the vboxsf module in a virtualized instance of kinetic | 09:05 |
| Rastersoft | Am I the only one? | 09:05 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Rastersoft: Not sure, I don't use VBox that often. It might take a while for someone who's here to notice and reply, so you may want to leave your IRC client open for a while (hours, possibly a few days) to get a response. | 09:08 |
| Rastersoft | arraybolt3[m] I'll do it. | 09:08 |
| luna__ | wooho new daily images for the first time in some days \o/ | 09:19 |
| guiverc | :) | 09:25 |
| * luna__ downloads to test in my Virtualbox test VM | 09:26 | |
| luna__ | is there any report for the problems with the keyboard layout selector in g-i-s in 22.10? | 10:16 |
| KBar | Rastersoft: shared folders not working? (i.e. Permission denied) | 11:14 |
| KBar | also what OS is your host? | 11:16 |
| Rastersoft | No, they just aren't mounted, and can't compile the module using the Guest aditions because can't find the configuration file (although it is there) and can't find some symbols. | 11:17 |
| Rastersoft | My host OS is Ubuntu 22.04 | 11:17 |
| KBar | Rastersoft: `uname -r`? | 11:18 |
| KBar | from guest | 11:18 |
| Rastersoft | 5.19.0-15-generic | 11:19 |
| KBar | Rastersoft: right. Boot into 5.15, purge the new version and do `apt-mark hold ...` | 11:19 |
| KBar | also, is it set up properly? | 11:20 |
| KBar | do you have one under "machine folders" in "shared folders" tab? also make sure your user is in the vboxsf group | 11:23 |
| KBar | but the problem is with the kernel 5.19, had the same exact issue until i reverted back to 5.15 | 11:24 |
| Rastersoft | I'm going to try compile now the guest iso | 11:26 |
| Rastersoft | Ok, now the mounting points do work | 11:30 |
| Rastersoft | but now the dynamic resolution... | 11:30 |
| KBar | did you downgrade the kernel? | 11:31 |
| Rastersoft | yes | 11:31 |
| Rastersoft | the vboxvideo module is loaded | 11:31 |
| KBar | Rastersoft: check your /var/log/apt/history.log | 11:31 |
| KBar | and search for 'linux'. it should have upgraded/installed 5 or 6 packages | 11:32 |
| KBar | among them is `linux-libc-dev` | 11:32 |
| KBar | you need to downgrade it as well | 11:32 |
| Rastersoft | I didn't use the virtualbox packages, I compiled the drivers from the guest aditions iso | 11:32 |
| KBar | what you're saying doesnt make sense. did you download guest additions ISO from Oracle's website or did you install it from the repositories? | 11:33 |
| Rastersoft | I used the "Insert "guest aditions" iso" option from the menu | 11:34 |
| KBar | good. thats how you're supposed to do it. but the question is, where did you get this specific version of Oracle VM VirtualBox? `sudo apt install virtualbox virtualbox-guest-additions iso` or you downloaded both (and their dependencies) from Oracle's website? | 11:35 |
| Rastersoft | Just did "sudo apt install virtualbox" Nothing else | 11:41 |
| Rastersoft | So the guest-additions iso was downloaded automagically by virtualbox | 11:42 |
| Rastersoft | anyway, I can set manually a bigger resolution, so I'll call it a day | 11:46 |
| Rastersoft | (I hope that I used that expression right :-D ) | 11:46 |
| Rastersoft | KBar Thanks for your help! | 11:46 |
| KBar | anyway, they should match each other. heres how i fixed it. 1) boot into old kernel 2) `apt purge linux-headers-5.19.0-15 linux-modules-extra-5.19.0-15-generic linux-image-5.19.0-15-generic linux-headers-5.19.0-15-generic linux-modules-5.19.0-15-generic` 3) download previous version of linux-hardware from lp and install via `sudo dpkg -i`: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/20220819.git8413c63c-0ubuntu2/+build/24299 | 11:48 |
| KBar | 318/+files/linux-firmware_20220819.git8413c63c-0ubuntu2_all.deb 4) download previous version of all linux-* packages that APT upgraded and run `sudo dpkg -i` on them as well, in my case there were 4 of them: linux-headers-generic, linux-generic, linux-image-generic, linux-libc-dev. they're available on lp: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu (i think they're meta packages so maybe this step is redundant but i did it anyway). dont forget to | 11:48 |
| KBar | update-initramfs if it didnt. | 11:48 |
| KBar | for some reason `sudo apt install package=version` didn't work so had to find and install these packages manually | 11:49 |
| luna__ | got an answer from jbicha | 13:09 |
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| Rastersoft | Hi again: | 15:03 |
| Rastersoft | I'm installing Kinetic in VirtualBox, and if I check the "use privative drivers" part, it hangs when it boots for the first time. | 15:06 |
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