[00:27] hola [00:36] What is the relationship between snap and aptitude going to be in the future? Is snap the future, will apt be gradually phased out? [00:37] dunpeal: no they will coexist [00:37] dunpeal: feel free to ask about future ubuntu releases in #ubuntu-next [00:37] and its more about apt and snap, not aptitude (aptitude is just another interface) [00:39] Thanks, I thought apt was just short for aptitude, with the latter being the proper name for this package management system. [00:44] no, apt and aptitude are different implementations of the same ideas; aptitude respects (some of?) the apt configs, it works on the same package databases, but it's also got unique features that apt doesn't have [00:44] my x2go new connection is pretty fast but when i choose 'local connection', it goes so slow to be unusable. How can i fix? [03:24] Hey guys, anyone know much about landscape? [03:24] Canonical's landscape that is [03:24] I'm looking for an alternative that is open source and free software [03:26] Landscape server..? [03:27] what do u mean landscape server? [03:27] Micro 8 's [03:30] https://ubuntu.com/blog/what-can-you-do-with-microk8s [03:31] don't think that's what I'm after [03:31] specifically I'm after some kind of server monitoring [03:31] Landscape server... https://ubuntu.com/landscape [03:32] nah we currently use landscape and it's not good enough [03:32] it lacks documentation, community and features [03:32] it's not even available on 22.04 [03:33] forman looks good, not sure if it'll work on what I need it to though [03:33] https://www.theforeman.org/ [03:34] I will check..How many servers needed..? more than 100, 200.. 1000..? [03:34] like 40 [03:34] virtual [03:34] Okay.. [03:35] as a general purpose thing that's cloud workload friendly, I've used sensu for that quite a bit. [03:35] However I think prometheus with alertmanager is becoming the de facto standard. [03:35] hmm i'll check these out [03:35] with grafana for the visibility (pretty pictures) [03:36] prometheus gets the data, alertmanager does the alerting, and grafana is the presentation layer. [03:36] Each of them could be replaced with others. There's quite a few variations. [03:36] Prom seems to be the one constant, though. [03:36] That is, in my experience. [03:37] wait so [03:37] you use multiple services to get this to work? [03:37] like sensu + prometheus + grafana? [03:37] sounds like a lot to setup [03:37] sensu is more of a kitchen sink. [03:38] prom + alertmanager + grafana is a stack of tools which are complimentary. [03:38] https://adamtheautomator.com/microk8s/ [03:38] I prefer the unix way generally (the three separate tools). [03:38] microk8s is a kubernetes stack. [03:38] 99% chance it's using prometheus with grafana fronting it. [03:38] so sensu is the backend? [03:38] Ubuntu rules with security.. [03:39] But I don't know. I use actual k8s, which isn't opinionated. [03:39] like looking at the screenshot there's no web interface or something [03:39] No, sensu is... let's see, do you know Nagios? [03:39] Sean made sensu to be: "The nagios for cloud stuff" [03:39] nah im really new to all of this [03:39] Nagios became Icinga, you might know that name. [03:40] Wrong look at what Ubuntu has to offer [03:40] The main feature we are looking for is system monitoring and notifications. Like we want to know if something goes wrong that we can be notified immediately [03:40] Yes, and kubernetes, like basenjis is suggesting, makes that a pretty turnkey thing. [03:40] SELinux or Apparmor.. [03:41] It's just a pretty big shift, for some organization's workloads. [03:41] hmm i'll have a look at hubernetes [03:41] If you want something completely generic: sensu. If you have "regular" things that can report to prometheus, look into prometheus + alertmanager + grafana, and the alternatives to alertmanager and grafana. [03:42] Kubernetes is authentication exact [03:42] kubernetes requires workloads that can stop at any time and idempotency and a lot of software architecture to be developed properly. [03:42] it offers great orchestration for workflows which fit into that box. [03:42] There's are all good, I need to come up with like 5 different solutions to implement for our company [03:43] 5 is too many. [03:43] like, because someone else will decide what we will implement [03:43] At least, 5 at once. [03:43] I'm just doing the research [03:43] is the point [03:43] Oh, you mean propose 5 diff options. [03:43] yeah exactly [03:43] Well now you have two. [03:43] yes indeed [03:43] Idk I don't care if we make all 5 [03:43] And the whole: "OR< we just move to kubernetes" [03:43] at least 3 would be good [03:43] and open that can of worms. [03:43] so like sensu, kubernetes and maybe one other [03:43] prom + alertmanager + grafana [03:44] possibly [03:44] it's a common stack. there are many one-click installers so you can't even tell you're using 3 different things. [03:44] what do u think of foreman? [03:44] I've never used foreman. [03:44] fair [03:44] That doesn't look like a monitoring solution, from my initial read here. [03:45] But I'm not gonna spend too much time on it. [03:45] it says on the website that it is a monitoring solution [03:45] eh im not going to worry about these for now [03:45] i'm just going to look into the programs u have suggested for now [03:45] That looks like a kitchen sink of terraform + ansible + chef + prometheus + * [03:46] I tend to avoid kitchen sinks and just use the underlying tools. [03:46] is a frontend nessesary for this kind of thing? [03:46] like landscape has a web front end [03:47] it would be nice [03:47] onlhy for the visualization part. [03:47] hmm [03:47] the configuration should be "as code", treated as any other code pipeline. Code reviews / approvals, etc. [03:47] This is all just one SRE's opinion. YMMV [03:48] I've been at so many places that did graphical configuration (Datadog, Splunk, others) and it alwasy got worse over time. [03:48] To the point that no one would touch it. [03:49] treat your metrics and monitoring config just like you treat any other code. it's just as important. [03:49] That was the Nagios mindset that is followed by sensu, generally. [03:51] whats easiest to learn? [03:52] sensu? [03:52] No idea. [03:53] I sat next to Sean as he was writing sensu. [03:53] So it was very tacit learning (the easiest) [03:53] Hi, which is the pakcane name used to report desktop crashes? [03:53] *package [03:53] prometheus was a bitch. [03:53] I hate the query language of prom and grafana. [03:53] But I made it through it. [03:54] researching this online is so confusing man [03:54] Yeah I bet. [03:55] information overload. [03:55] exactly [03:55] With a bunch of well placed ads. [03:55] How many times did you end up on Splunk's website? hahahah [03:55] not with ublockorigin baby [03:55] haha a few [03:55] Splunk and Datadog are the big players in the hosted space. [03:55] You should include at least one hosted option. [03:55] are they FOSS though? [03:55] NewRelic is another player there. [03:56] Nope, not foss. [03:56] damn [03:56] But I'd still include them, if this is for a company. Just so you can see the cost-value proposition. [03:56] The Foss one takes $$, too, in manpower to maintain it. [03:56] yeah I think I will, I always want to recommend foss when Ican though [03:56] Me, too, always. [03:57] It's a variation of the buy vs build. [03:57] Maintain vs pay someone to maintain. [03:57] yeah I don't think we want to spend too much time maintaining this [04:01] suse linux..? easiest to learn..? [04:02] what? [04:03] who what? [04:04] It is true.. Suse Linux.. is easy to learn..server is updated from Germany [04:04] Um, ok. I don't know how to even judge "easy to learn" [04:04] I thought LFS was very easy to learn. It was just A Book. you read the book, you know the distro. [04:04] What can get easier than that? [04:05] EXCUse..You..?? [04:05] Reading. It's a Thing. [04:05] No [04:06] Wrong context [04:06] Not a book [04:06] kubectl config set-context correct-context [04:06] haha, should be use-context, I think. [04:06] Wrong GAIN [04:07] Sever...iso [04:07] yup, use-context [04:07] Sever .iso Open source SUSE.. ! [04:08] Fool [04:09] Micro8's Ubuntu rule..less than that is SUSE.. [04:09] Rancher ? [04:14] imagine reading in 2022 [04:14] i just hack into the mainframe with my mind [04:15] https://adamtheautomator.com/microk8s/ [04:42] im thinking datadog looks good [04:42] looks like its easy to setup [04:42] but sensu looks like a bit of a learning curve === utkarsh is now known as mr_crypto === certiora1i is now known as certiorari === John__ is now known as johnau [06:35] Is there are copy manager (like teracopy) for ubuntu? Specifically with a file queue where files can be skipped/re-prioritized/ etc ? [06:35] for ubuntu kde* === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc [09:12] what happened with id.archive.ubuntu.com? keeps getting forbidden error for apt operations [09:12] realivanjx: Looks like it's empty. Maybe the mirror got taken offline? [09:13] probably. it was working fine up to a few days ago when i last checked for updates [09:13] realivanjx: There's lots of other mirrors in Indonesia that you could switch Apt to use instead. What version of Ubuntu are you on? [09:14] arraybolt3[m] 22.04 [09:15] realivanjx: OK, one moment, I'll give you a file you can drop into your system to switch to a functioning mirror. === war is now known as Guest798 [09:19] realivanjx: Sorry for the delay, juggling over here... [09:20] np [09:21] realivanjx: https://bpa.st/V75A [09:21] realivanjx: Run "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list", then press and hold Ctrl+K until the file is empty. Then copy the contents of the link above, and paste them into the file with Ctrl+Shift+V. Then press Ctrl+S to save, Ctrl+X to exit, then run "sudo apt update" and see if it works. [09:23] just that one file? i will try it later. thanks [09:36] hi, how can I connect with ssh to a second server using a key ? I tried "ssh -A -t -v root@server1 ssh -A -t login@server2" but I get "no hostkey alg" as if the second server didn't recieve my auth key... Any idea ? [09:46] I have been offered a partial upgrade when trying to go from 20.04 to 22.04. How can I find out why? [09:52] hello [09:52] hey [09:57] hey guys! how can i check who/what ip is using protocol IGMP? I tried "ss", "lsof", "tcpdump" and haven't found a way to get information of protocol IGMP that is being use... how can i track that protocol? === mickey770 is now known as mickey77 [10:14] phonixgeist: tcpdump, wireshark [10:17] capture filter: "ip proto igmp" [10:18] he continued in #linux [10:19] tomreyn, ip proto.. gives me error... [10:19] thanks oerheks [10:20] all i found is this dutch tv routing issue https://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/2003282 [10:20] 240.0.0.0/4 [10:39] Aliekezi: use the -J (jump host) option to specify the first server, the one you 'proxy' through [10:39] lesshaste: do you want to share the output, on a pastebin-like service, and provide more details? [11:21] hi [11:21] If I want to block yutube on localhost. I can do this in /etc/hosts file? `216.58.0.0/16 localhost` ? === esv_ is now known as esv [11:24] I would do: 127.0.0.1 yutube.com in /etc/hosts instead. [11:25] esv that does not works. [11:26] how to firewall youtube.com in iptables so this site does not opens up? [11:28] https://pastebin.com/imYuT7E4 [11:29] what are you trying to accomplish? [11:29] maybe youtube.com and yutube.com are not the same [11:30] are you trying to block your local network users from using the service? [11:30] !crosspost | Intelo [11:30] Intelo: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [11:30] esv the pastbin link do not open. [11:31] maybe the site is blocked to you, I just tried that on a different browser and it worked. [11:31] can you paste on another bin? [11:32] https://bpa.st/XOCQ [11:33] Intelo: it's just a bin where he shows that "127.0.0.1 youtube.com" works. so make sure yours doesn't have any typos [11:37] but don't mind me, without knowing what is that you are trying to accomplish is foolish to give advice. apogologies for provide wrong advice. [11:37] esv but in your paste, you are able to access youtube despite the rule in /etc [11:39] no, my machine gets pinged (127.0.0.1) is always your local machine [11:40] I mean yes, ping command is successful but at the end of the day it is your local machine the one that replies not the youtube.com service [11:42] ok [11:45] also, not sure if it would work for anything else other that the two specific entries (www.youtube.com and youtube.com), you might need to use a DNS filtering service like the one used in the pi-hole. [11:45] again, not sure what your main objective is. [11:46] idk if it's also really helpful to only block yt (the site itself) as there are quite a few 3rd party sites based on invidious for example [11:52] esv murmel thanks [11:55] tomreyn, sorry, I just found out it was the second server which didn't accept some algorythms, now it's fiexed [11:59] are there any mirrors for libreoffice ppa? https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu is too slow for me [12:00] Aliekezi: glad you worked it out. [12:04] realivanjx: i don't think there are mirrors. maybe you can run your own proxy server close to it? what does ppa.launchpadcontent.net resolve to for you, and what's your download speed from it? === solsTiCe4 is now known as solsTiCe [12:11] tomreyn 185.125.190.52 [12:11] speed is like 50-150 KBps [12:17] location seems to be Hurricane Electric, London. I get about 85mbit from it [12:41] realivanjx: it resolves to both an ipv4 and ipv6 address for me, and transfer from the ipv6 one is slower for me - but i'm also in western europe, so this can be very different for you. [12:41] realivanjx: what i mean to say is: see if you can get a faster download via ipv4 than via ipv6, or the other way around. [12:44] Hey! Can anyone help me please.. I installed Zabbix to my Ubuntu 20.04 VM + some other stuff. Zabbix port is 10050. For some unknown reason I cannot connect to it from another machine. I have disabled ufw then enabled it and allowed 10050 then I allowed connection from my Zabbix server IP, but nothing helps. iptables -L doesn't show any blocks and netstat shows that Zabbix agent nicely listens to 10050. There are no external firewalls and [12:44] other VMs in that same server and network are using Zabbix agent too without issues. Telnet times out. [12:44] I'm not really sure what to do next [12:46] and I can connect to the Zabbix server and I can ping the Ubuntu VM from Zabbix server as well.. so connection works just fine. It just external connections cannot connect to 10050 for some reason [12:49] tomreyn im using route48 tunnel for my ipv6. im from southeast asia [12:56] Hi all [12:56] hey guys.. anyone know how to configure nftables to allow wifi-hotspot internet sharing... nft is blocking my hotspot... [13:16] hi [13:16] hey [13:17] I need more sleep [14:08] Alrighty, I can see from tcpdump that packets come in.. ufw is disabled, but something seems to be still wrong. Iptables is empty.. [14:09] Diplomat: aha [14:09] Diplomat: tcpdump will always show the packets coming in [14:09] Diplomat: tcpdump is showing you what hits the interface as it hits the interface [14:10] Yes.. but I have ufw disabled and packets still don't reach the service [14:10] When I try from the server itself like: telnet localhost 10050 it works perfectly [14:12] Diplomat: what if you connect to the servers' LAN / external IP address from itself? rather using nc (netcat) than telnet (which is a bad tool for debugging purposes)? [14:13] Connection to XXX 10050 port [tcp/zabbix-agent] succeeded! [14:13] nc -vz XXX 10050 [14:13] is there virtualization, NAT, network brdiging involed? [14:14] I'm using Vmware yes, but I have other VMs using Zabbix as well and they don't have any issues. [14:14] can you connect to it from the host? [14:15] consider an ip address collision [14:16] There can't be a collision because we have mail services running there and they work perfectly. I have not tried from esxi itself [14:16] + I'm ssh-ed into it using the external IP [14:16] Only 10050 seems to be having issues.. other ports in that context work perfectly fine [14:18] Yeah, I just tried from 3 different external servers outside from that network (in different countries) and nc times out [14:18] Also nmap seems to be showing correct open ports as well (besides 10050) [14:21] A quick paste too, to who is interested: https://dpaste.org/YNbDR === mickey7707 is now known as mickey770 === pah is now known as pa [15:12] Well.. lol [15:12] Turns out that server was using nftables [15:16] hello. I did a netplay yaml config to bond 2 LAN cards in active-backup mode. but remove one of both lan cables, network break. maybe I have to set bond0 as default connection. [15:37] I wonder how many Ubuntu users run MATE instead of Gnome or some other DE. I've been trying out MATE and it's amazing [15:41] !discuss | jj__ [15:41] jj__: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [15:41] https://ubuntu.com/desktop/statistics [15:42] oh ! i didnt know abut the !discuss factoid !! [15:42] lol ogra [15:42] no stats about desktops.. [15:43] didnt we have a statistics package in the repos? [15:43] oerheks, also pretty old (i think the original poll for this was in 2017) [15:59] is there any mirror for ubuntu 20.04 ARM around southeast asia (singapore, jp, indonesia, etc)? [16:00] really cool website, thanks oerheks [16:03] realivanjx, check this : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirror.coganng.com-archive2 [16:11] thanks ioria [17:00] So, I have a silly question that's more of theoretical than technical, but... what would cause an Ubuntu system to suddenly go from stable and working to entirely unstable and unusable? [17:00] I was using my laptop last night and everything was just going normally, when suddenly I was met with "Segmentation fault" when trying to run "lsblk". Pretty much every command I tried to run after that told me either "Segmentation fault" or "Bus error" (even the "sync" command!), and I was unable to launch any programs from the GNOME shell. [17:01] I decided to force reboot by pressing and holding the power button - when I did so, the desktop vanished and I saw a ton of SQUASHFS errors (presumably from Snaps?) in a console, then the system shut down. [17:01] Thankfully, it rebooted normally, and seems to be just fine now. So I'm back up and running, but... what on earth? What's something that would cause this rapid chaos? [17:01] wich ubuntu/flavour release was that arraybolt3[m] [17:02] Ubuntu Desktop 22.04. [17:03] arraybolt3[m]: can you still access the journal logs of last night? [17:03] Depends on if they saved to the disk or not, I could try. [17:03] Last time I saw something similar, I had accidentally yanked out a flash drive that happened to have the system's swap file on it. I had just installed Kubuntu 20.04 to a flash drive and didn't realize that the newly created swapfile was in use by the live environment, so I just grabbed it and removed it, and immediately stuff started going wrong in a very similar way. [17:04] arraybolt3[m]: sounds like a brutal behaviour for sure [17:05] Oh wow. Well I have plenty of logs, but I just learned that Minetest makes an event in the journal every time you mine a block (?!). [17:07] Nope, I can't find any segfaults in my journalctl. [17:07] Which makes sense given that I improperly shut it down and it was having problems even getting "sync" to run. [17:07] could you share arraybolt3[m] [17:08] All I can think is RAM failure, or maybe my SATA drive somehow wiggled loose. 🤷‍♂️ [17:08] Sure, lemme figure out the number of lines to send... [17:10] * arraybolt3[m] posted a file: (2747KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/yeuzFCTSjOsRdAFCjoSTXoie/logs.txt > [17:10] reading [17:10] That's the last 20,000 lines, reaching back to September 6, which ought to have caught it (I can't remember if it happened late September 7 or early September 8). [17:12] arraybolt3[m]: whats this? org.gnome.TwentyFortyEight.desktop [17:12] Oh also, it all seemed to start just after plugging in a flash drive (USB 3 drive in a USB 2 port). The drive is known-good and extremely unlikely to be malicious (it has my GPG key on it). [17:12] lotuspsychje: That's probably GNOME 2048. I play that a lot. [17:12] (Got it from the Ubuntu repos.) [17:12] * arraybolt3[m] uploaded an image: (44KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/FyLYktUitWxvjMtKCgaRFopw/image.png > [17:14] arraybolt3[m]: your logs have a lot of gnome-shell noise [17:15] something spamming gnome-shell till it crashes? [17:16] Maybe? I think I found where the issue hit though, and it looks like it's lost - there's just logs, and logs, and logs, then suddenly the logs stop and fifteen minutes later there's a bootup, which is probably when I gave up and hit the power button. [17:16] Gnome? [17:16] jhutchins: Yep, I'm on GNOME. [17:17] arraybolt3[m]: I mean gnome spamming the gnome logs. [17:17] Ah. [17:17] It's pretty much expected that a sysgtem fault that takes the system down takes the logging function down as well. We always look, but shouldn't be surprised because there's never anything there. [17:18] This is the spot where I think the error got lost: https://bpa.st/HMFA [17:18] arraybolt3[m]: testing a lot of gnome extensions of any kind? [17:18] No way did I shut down the system, leave it that way for 15 minutes and then boot it back up. I was using it pretty much all night. So I think that's probably where it crashed. [17:18] Nope, don't have any GNOME extensions installed but the defaults. [17:18] kk [17:19] arraybolt3[m]: but you surely can tell from the logs, you're a tester lol [17:19] Chrome, GEdit, Xiphos, Element, Hexchat, and some terminal windows were almost certainly running, I may have had Boxes and System Monitor on, too. Those are pretty much my standard suite. [17:19] Hmm, "Ivy Bridge Vulkan support is incomplete". [17:20] AKA "This kernel not ready for current hardware". [17:20] Let's push it to production anyway, nobody's going to notice. [17:20] Or more like "dude upgrade your hardware already :P" It's a 3rd gen Core i5. [17:21] WHich means they never bothered to finish support? [17:21] I don't think those were even designed to have complete hardware acceleration support. [17:21] 3D software frequently doesn't like Intel HD graphics due to that very problem (IIUC). [17:22] It's pretty hard to keep up with desktop-level hardware, it changes constantly. [17:22] arraybolt3[m]: google-fu gives a lot of hits on segfault + minetest too [17:23] arraybolt3: you got something in /var/crash ? [17:23] There's always been the argument "If you want support for your $3000 graphics card, buy the developers a sample to work from". [17:24] lotuspsychje: Eh, a Google Chrome crash and a Solaar crash (for my Logitech Unifying receiver), that's it. [17:24] "Minetest" sounds like a debugging thing; generating log entries would be a good feature. [17:24] Neither of those crashes happened around the time of the sudden chaos (IIRC). [17:24] arraybolt3: any of those 2 from yesterday? [17:25] Latent problems lurking after the crash? [17:25] I think the Solaar one was. [17:25] not sure if solaar could make the whole desktop crash? [17:26] Yeah. Another weird thing is, my open programs seemed to still function properly, I just couldn't open much of anything else (I could still get new terminal windows though). My text editor did just bail on me without asking me if I wanted to save changes, though, and I had some unsaved work (it was easy to rebuild thankfully). [17:28] Maybe I should run a RAM test. [17:29] my bet is on gnome-shell arraybolt3 [17:30] element-desktop is also giving weird errors [17:31] Hmm. Well, I guess there's not really anything conclusive, and the system's working now (I'm typing on it), so I guess I'm happy. Possibly gnome-shell, yeah, I mean, I guess. It just seems like a GNOME shell glitch should take down GNOME shell, but still leave command-line programs (like lsblk and sync) working. I've never seen lsblk segfault before in my life. [17:31] arraybolt3: gnome-shell[1885]: Window manager warning: Broken client! Window 0x2e00002 changed client leader window or SM client ID [17:32] Sep 08 03:39:42 elitebook8570p [17:32] could that been the time? [17:32] Maybe? I think it was earlier than that, but it was somewhere around there possibly. [17:32] It might be useful to try this program under a different desktop manager just to see what happens. [17:33] If only I knew what program that was :D [17:33] Also, there should be a bootup *after* wherever the error is, since I rebooted the system shortly after it went berzerk. [17:34] lotuspsychje: Oh wow, actually that might be it, I can see all sorts of insanity right after that happens. [17:34] yeah those errors dont lokk very sane [17:34] Sep 08 03:39:42 elitebook8570p gnome-shell[1885]: Object .MetaWindowActorX11 (0x55c0ac79bb00), has been already disposed — impossible to access it. This might be caused by the object having been destroyed from C code using something such as destroy(), dispose(), or remove() vfuncs. [17:35] maybe your testing got a bit too frankenubuntu and made gnome-shell disliking it? [17:37] hello I need help on changing the default resolution of a livecd. my monitor goes out of range and I don't see anything when kde is loaded on kubuntu [17:37] lotuspsychje: Well, that's the thing, I don't *ever* do anything to destabilize my main system. All my weird fiddling is done inside VMs... except... remember that time EriC^^ had to fish me out of a GRUB issue? That was the only time I did something possibly dangerous to my main system. [17:37] ok [17:38] nyo: Can you switch to a TTY using Ctrl+Alt+F3? [17:38] arraybolt3: an hour later you got all those Operation not permitted errors [17:38] yes I can switch to tty arraybolt3 [17:38] but if I kill X11 it reloads it so I dunno what to do [17:38] Ubuntu experienced an error Executable path /usr/bin/whoopsie and some other stuff too... any idea ? [17:39] lotuspsychje: Yeah but I'm still getting those while System Monitor is running in the background, I don't think those are probably dangerous. [17:39] nyo: I think you can use xrandr to set the screen resolution from there. [17:39] stolen: Did some program crash soon before this happened> [17:39] *happened? [17:40] arraybolt3 I tried xrandr --verbose and it says cannot open display [17:40] nyo: Try "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --verbose". [17:42] arraybolt3 ok it gives me the whole list of resolutions. I see the problem is the vsync at 133 mhz. how to set it to 60? [17:42] lotuspsychje: Also whatever I did to my system that once with GRUB still has something odd going on - every time I boot, my Caps Lock and Num Lock lights flash in a slow, regular pattern three or so times, then Ubuntu boots, which sounds like I've done something to make the EFI seriously confused. [17:44] nyo: Looks like "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output --rate 60" should do it, though change accordingly. [17:48] arraybolt3 it is too difficult for me there are too many numbers I don't understand [17:48] I need 1024x768 60hz on vga1 [17:49] nyo: Can you run "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --verbose | nc termbin.com 9999" and send the link that spits out? That will let me see the command output. [17:49] (You will have to be connected to the Internet for that to work.) [17:50] nyo: If you need to connect to the Internet without your screen, you can run "nmtui" and use it to connect to WiFi. [17:50] (Er, without your desktop I mean.) [17:53] I don't have wifi will try termbin [17:54] arraybolt3 termbin.com/pgph [17:55] arraybolt3 I think the good one to use is this 1024x768 (0x46) 65.000MHz -HSync -VSync [17:55] nyo: DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output VGA-1 --rate 60 [17:56] nyo: Or wait, I'll try to give you the specific mode switcher one... [17:56] arraybolt3 ok then what else to do? [17:57] nyo: DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output VGA-1 --mode 0x46 [17:57] rate 60 doesn't change anything but maybe I have to restart x11? [17:57] nyo: It should apply instantly IIRC. [17:57] says configure crtc 0 failed arraybolt3 [17:58] Hmm... ok one moment. [17:59] nyo: DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output VGA-1 --crtc CRT0 --mode 0x46 [18:00] nyo: Or if that fails, "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output VGA-1 --crtc 0 --mode 0x46" [18:00] arraybolt3 invalid name 'CRT0' [18:00] nyo: Or if that fails too, "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output VGA-1 --crtc 1 --mode 0x46" [18:00] arraybolt3 same error crtc 0 failed on all [18:01] Even with the crtc set to 1? Blah. [18:01] yes [18:01] says crtc 0 failed with crtc 1 [18:01] Oh wait, try this: [18:02] DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output VGA-1 --crtc 1 --brightness 0.7 --mode 0x46 [18:02] nothing arraybolt3 [18:02] why is so difficult.... [18:02] Well crud. [18:03] some other livecd to try? [18:03] I can use kubuntu safe graphic but then I don't have accelleration etc [18:04] nyo: You might see if there's some other way to connect your monitor to your graphics output - maybe a glitchy adapter is causing the problem. [18:04] I have kvm switch [18:04] but neveer have given me problems [18:04] I was using gentoo before [18:04] Ah. I bet that's causing most of your trouble. Can you try connecting the monitor directly without the KVM switch? [18:04] and the only difference was that I had to add 1280x1024 as a resolution mode [18:04] no because the pc is in a rack [18:05] We might be able to set the monitor mode correctly if that works, and then have it work when the switch is put back into the setup. [18:05] like a rack outside room [18:05] Oh. Hmm... [18:05] with gentoo it was fine [18:05] I was just able to made it works by adding 1280x1024 to xorg.conf [18:05]