[13:37] Eickmeyer[m]: it sounds like a good sw updater is more difficult than thought? [14:21] OvenWerks: Yeah. This is going to require some collaboration, which is OK. we can't do this on our own. [14:25] Ubuntu Flavors aren't an island. We should always be collaborating with each other. The idea of being separate from the rest of Ubuntu isn't a thing. Tribalism gets us nowhere. The more we work together, the better things are for everyone. [14:25] What I thought was funny was it attracted the attention from KDE (Neon) and Fedora. [14:27] :) [17:10] OvenWerks: FYI, the update-manager autoremove tells you exactly what it's removing and gives you the option to unselect stuff to keep it from removing it. [17:48] Thats good. Is there also a way to flag packages set to auto remove as user installed? [17:49] otherwise they remain in the autoremove list [18:45] OvenWerks: Only way I know of to do that is "apt-mark manual {package}". [18:51] exactly [18:53] a GUI that shows a list of autoremove packages should have two check marks, one for yes remove and a second for keep this package. One could even argue, though I am not sure they would be right, that anything that remains un checked for removal, should be marked manual [18:54] The main reason for not marking unchecked packages as manual, is that there is no "I don't want to make this decision right now button" :) [19:03] That sounds like a feature enhancement request, which is a form of bug report. [19:03] That said, it would come up on the next time upgrade-manager runs. === arraybolt3_ is now known as arraybolt3 === arraybolt3_ is now known as arraybolt3