[18:46] Cannot say I am 100% convinced of the effort/benefit equation in making a new CI. I have developed some quite effective strategies for packaging things in advance of actual releases. Hence we have not usually had to wait to get new things out [18:48] The downside it that they require a packager to be able to spare significant time for short periods, rather than spreading out the packaging changes in small bites over longer periods [18:51] For example, using upstream release scripts, I can quite easily make a fake set of tarball for an upcoming release that I can throw at a PPA. Then sort the packing out so when the real release happens, there is a minimal amount of extra work to do. THis is how I have been able to get new plasma beta and .0 releases out very close to or even on the release day [19:10] That sounds like a good strategy, but your the only one doing the work 😞 [19:23] That is a different class of problem (re @Rick_Timmis: That sounds like a good strategy, but your the only one doing the work 😞)