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| lotuspsychje | good morning | 02:39 |
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| tomreyn | fwiw, following Guest9130's request for an ubuntu live/installer usb storage with persistent encrypted storage, i just created such (in a VM) with (almost) only GUI tools. | 15:15 |
| tomreyn | it works and still boots fine (only tested uefi booting) | 15:15 |
| tomreyn | i used balena etcher to write the iso to usb (but dd should work just as well), then ran sudo fdisk --wipe none against the usb storage (/dev/sdb for me), which reported some issues. i did not make changes, just pressed w to have it write the partition table in the way it thinks it should be. then i started gnome disks and pointed it to the disk, which showed unpartitoned space at the end, behind the ~4 GB ubuntu uses. i created | 15:23 |
| tomreyn | a new partition there and chose for it to be ext4, encrypted, and applied those changes. then i booted off the usb storage and chose the 'try before you install' option and, using gnome files, was able to mount the encrypted disk (and, using the admin:/// uri in gnome files, access the test data i had placed on there). | 15:23 |
| lotuspsychje | nice tomreyn | 15:25 |
| tomreyn | so it's really just a matter of using fdisk to fix the partiton table, which will allow gui tools such as gnome disks (which would otherwise fail doing so) to create encrypted persistent storage. | 15:25 |
| tomreyn | :) | 15:25 |
| lotuspsychje | would be nice to have this in a wiki, a lot of users are asking persistent installs | 15:25 |
| tomreyn | i just hope it's still hybrid bootable after this | 15:26 |
| daftykins | can't think why anyone wants this, early users dipping their toes and afraid to touch their existing systems? | 15:28 |
| tomreyn | i don't know about the why, but occasionally there's someone who wants this (not neccessarily with encryption), yes. if it's not a classic usb flash but a proper usb ssd (such as a pcie nvme behind usb translation), i can see the use case | 15:31 |
| tomreyn | including with encryption then. | 15:31 |
| tomreyn | although i guess then, even more so, you really want your custom installation on there. | 15:33 |
| arraybolt3 | This might be handy for users to have a portable, usable installation of Ubuntu. The last time I tried to install Ubuntu to a second flash drive with everything plugged into my main system, it scrambled my main system's bootloader. | 15:34 |
| daftykins | you have to tread carefully that's for sure | 15:35 |
| daftykins | that's something i haven't played with yet, i have spare M.2 SSDs but never owned a USB enclosure for one | 15:35 |
| tomreyn | those are actually quite affordable | 15:36 |
| arraybolt3 | daftykins: Well don't do it on your main system! I was able to mostly fix it with "grub-install"... mostly. My system flashes lights at me in weird ways on bootup, but it does at least still boot. | 15:36 |
| arraybolt3 | Don't remember it doing the flashy lights things before. | 15:36 |
| daftykins | the smart approach would be to pull an internal drive yeah | 15:36 |
| arraybolt3 | Hopefully the Ubuntu installer will get fixed so it doesn't do stuff like that anymore. | 15:37 |
| arraybolt3 | Maybe Canary will do the trick? | 15:37 |
| daftykins | i don't consider that a flaw, rather the task is headed for disaster if you let GRUB handle things auto | 15:38 |
| daftykins | hmm - https://www.amazon.co.uk/ORICO-USB-Gbps-NVMe-Enclosure/dp/B07QN2WFGB/ | 15:38 |
| tomreyn | there are even usb 4 ones now, if ridiculously rpiced (start 170 EUR :) ) | 15:41 |
| daftykins | well, as fun as buying something that isn't usable yet, nor for a long while is... | 15:42 |
| tomreyn | i guess those won't be fanless also | 15:44 |
| daftykins | i find it interesting that it's typically only the controller that needs to be cool, the NAND is fine with some warmth | 15:47 |
| tomreyn | unfortunately most of those enclosures have a 'female' connector only, you can't just plug them into a usb port, but must attach a cable. | 15:52 |
| daftykins | well they're too large to dangle off, and no doubt would be at the wrong height for a laptop on a desk :) | 15:53 |
| daftykins | it would be port murder! | 15:53 |
| tomreyn | https://gzhls.at/i/74/36/2237436-n0.jpg | 15:54 |
| tomreyn | does exist, but you're probably right about port murder | 15:54 |
| tomreyn | https://icybox.de/en/product.php?id=64 | 15:55 |
| Jeremy31 | I have a cheap one made by Mokin that has a cord | 15:56 |
| tomreyn | another directly pluggable http://www.akasa.co.uk/search.php?seed=AK-ENU3M2-04 | 15:57 |
| daftykins | soldering irons are warming up everywhere at the sight ;) | 15:57 |
| tomreyn | :) and another https://www.delock.de/produkt/42635/merkmale.html?setLanguage=en | 15:58 |
| tomreyn | it's probably still an unbeatable tool for the sneaker admin | 15:59 |
| tomreyn | hmm bios booting seems to have gotten broken when i had fdisk rewrite the partition table | 16:05 |
| daftykins | sounds about right | 16:06 |
| tomreyn | i was thinking fdisk has hybrid support, though | 16:06 |
| tomreyn | maybe i should have used it with --proteect-boot and / or --compatibility=dos. and / or "--wipe never" rather than "--wipe-partitions never" (which i actually did where i said i had done "--wipe none" abive) | 16:11 |
| tomreyn | actually not --compatibility=dos since this is really about the stone age operating system, does not refer to MBR | 16:13 |
| daftykins | :) | 16:15 |
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