| lotuspsychje | good morning | 02:03 |
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| thesyldat | Howdy | 12:39 |
| lotuspsychje | o/ | 12:40 |
| lotuspsychje | i got green on black on hexchat thesyldat | 12:42 |
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| lotuspsychje | o/ | 15:47 |
| lotuspsychje | wich mac models do you run ubuntu on cbreak | 15:47 |
| cbreak | currently none | 15:49 |
| lotuspsychje | i had some good experiences wich bionic & focal on several models | 15:49 |
| cbreak | What I did do is build a hackintosh, which is a non-mac running macos. It has a fat32 EFI | 15:49 |
| lotuspsychje | just not too old ones or newer models and m1 | 15:49 |
| cbreak | yeah, the arm macs are tricky. I read it took the devs months to get anything working even at a barebones level | 15:50 |
| ogra | but luckil someone has done it now ... so you wont anymore | 15:50 |
| lotuspsychje | asahi linux is a cool project | 15:50 |
| ogra | *luckily | 15:50 |
| cbreak | ogra: I wouldn't be surprised if it takes months or years for all hardware to work properly, unless apple is a lot more open with their specs / api / hardware interfaces than I'd expect from them. | 15:52 |
| ogra | cbreak, well, i think most of the M1 stuff works in asahi ... but i wouldnt invest money into HW until there is a working GPU driver | 16:05 |
| cbreak | I'm eyeing the framework laptops | 16:08 |
| ogra | well, if i stay with intel i'm old fashioned and just get a new XPS13 ... but once i can actually run ubuntu natively i'll surely move into apples ARMs 🙂 | 16:10 |
| cbreak | I use AMD on my new machines. Works ok. | 16:12 |
| cbreak | and even works with ECC memory, unlike most of the intel stuff :) | 16:12 |
| ogra | i used to use AMD exclusively for ages ... but eventually switched back to intel (dont even know why, it just happened) ... i *do* prefer arm64 but still have not found an ARM laptop that i'd use as daily driver yet | 16:14 |
| ogra | ARM is the future (and i'm preaching that since a decade being laughed at 🙂 ) | 16:15 |
| tomreyn | no, no, RISC-V is the future | 16:15 |
| lotuspsychje | ogra: this was the article ive seen recently; https://www.linuxhintbd.xyz/2022/09/how-to-try-ubuntu-new-installer-on-your-current-install.html | 16:20 |
| ogra | tomreyn, RISC-V is the far future ... 🙂 | 16:20 |
| tomreyn | the far future is the PQC, the personal quantum computer ;) | 16:23 |
| arraybolt3 | What would you even use that for? | 16:25 |
| arraybolt3 | I mean, the way QCs work is weird... | 16:25 |
| ogra | oh ! | 16:34 |
| ogra | omgubuntu has a new css | 16:34 |
| ogra | (but still no mention of the new unity flavour or of the ubuntu summit ... looks like joey recently just talks about themes and new flatpak'd software) | 16:35 |
| leftyfb | there's a new unity flavor? | 16:39 |
| leftyfb | I don't see it mentioned here: https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavours | 16:40 |
| hggdh | leftyfb: just been approved, docs are running behind | 16:41 |
| leftyfb | interesting | 16:41 |
| cbreak | ubuntu for phones? ubuntu for IOT? :) | 16:41 |
| leftyfb | I didn't think that community was all that big/active | 16:41 |
| cbreak | or ubuntu blockchain NFT scamedition? | 16:42 |
| lotuspsychje | there are still users on unity | 16:42 |
| lotuspsychje | had a customer of mine last still running xenial | 16:43 |
| enigma9o7[m] | if xenial/unity users upgraded to bionic, did they keep unity? | 16:44 |
| lotuspsychje | i think yes | 16:46 |
| lotuspsychje | dont think i did that lts upgrade | 16:46 |
| lotuspsychje | !bionic | 16:46 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) is the 28th release of Ubuntu and an !LTS release. Download at https://releases.ubuntu.com/bionic/ - Release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes | 16:46 |
| ravage | no ZFS on the kinetic canary ISO. should i be worried? i like my ZFS :) | 16:50 |
| ravage | (no ZFS install option) | 16:50 |
| lotuspsychje | enigma9o7[m]: i only find The Ubuntu Desktop now uses GNOME instead of Unity. on the releasenotes | 16:51 |
| lotuspsychje | maybe Maik or rs2009 will remember? | 16:52 |
| enigma9o7[m] | ah ok that makes sense, it uses the `ubuntu-desktop` pacakge so they could chang eit on people. if you want to use unity you need `ubuntu-unity-desktop` | 16:52 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah that i tested a lot unity-desktop on ubuntu-desktop with gnome | 16:54 |
| rs2009 | upgrading from xenial to bionic would install GNOME, but also keep Unity7 iirc (since ubuntu-desktop added GNOME to its dependencies) | 16:54 |
| lotuspsychje | that makes sense rs2009 tnx | 16:55 |
| lotuspsychje | so users could make their own transition back then | 16:56 |
| leftyfb | ravage: you want to ask that in #ubuntu-next | 16:59 |
| ravage | i can get the canary build of jammy and ask here | 16:59 |
| ravage | dont think that makes a difference | 16:59 |
| ravage | it is a question about the new installer | 17:00 |
| ogra | ravage, ask in the discours thread ... the backend is subiquity (the server installer) i'd assume it can do zfs and just doesnt expose that in the UI yet | 17:01 |
| ravage | ogra, ok. thanks :) | 17:01 |
| ogra | lotuspsychje, you mean you didnt notice that everything you want to do all of a sudden requires ten more clicks than in unity ? | 17:03 |
| lotuspsychje | ogra: i mostly clean installed most lts releases | 17:03 |
| lotuspsychje | and yeah transition to gnome/activities worked on my nerves :p | 17:04 |
| ogra | sure ... but the gnome desktop really adds a lot longer ways to reach what you need | 17:04 |
| lotuspsychje | indeed | 17:04 |
| lotuspsychje | but now on jammy, lucky i got all my workspaces back | 17:04 |
| ogra | i use workspace-matrix ... | 17:04 |
| ogra | that gives me the good old rows/clums setup i need on my laptop | 17:05 |
| lotuspsychje | the workspaces indicator from gnome extensions here | 17:05 |
| ogra | *columns | 17:05 |
| lotuspsychje | looks cool ogra | 17:06 |
| lotuspsychje | !info gnome-shell-extensions | 17:07 |
| ubottu | gnome-shell-extensions (42.1-0ubuntu1, jammy): Extensions to extend functionality of GNOME Shell. In component universe, is optional. Built by gnome-shell-extensions. Size 167 kB / 1,138 kB | 17:07 |
| lotuspsychje | that indicator sits inside this | 17:07 |
| lotuspsychje | for those who want | 17:07 |
| ogra | i think most of them have been dropped from that package though ... to push people to wards using the normal extension system instead of debs | 17:07 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 17:08 |
| lotuspsychje | https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/x9lro5/unity_petition_to_bring_back_this_default_first/ | 17:27 |
| lotuspsychje | speaking of | 17:27 |
| pizza | thats hot | 17:48 |
| Bashing-om | UWN: Issue752 now available: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue752 :D | 20:46 |
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