[00:04] like, I don't want the star on the keyboard to map to favorites.... *ever* [00:07] probably something in the area of combining xev + xmodmap [00:07] ...if you run X [00:17] The star in the keyboard.... Like F8 or such? Is this a laptop? You have a 'Fn Key'? That should modify it. There could even be a 'bios' setting such that F8 would be F8 and 'Fn+F8' would be 'the star key' [00:31] nuala, laptop, yeah, and no, I said *specific* and *certain*, as in individually disable. Fn key is a global function [00:34] Oh sorry. I misunderstood then! === M4he is now known as mahe [01:56] when i add a .snap package, how can i create shortcut in menu? [01:56] i don't see it [02:06] is it normal to view other users' home dir files in ubuntu? [02:06] is it normal to be able to* view other users' home dir files in ubuntu? [02:07] yes [02:08] !chmod | Intelo see also [02:08] Intelo see also: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions [02:09] linsux: assuming standard default Gnome desktop click on show applications (bottom left 9 dots) find the program/snap right click add to favorites [02:12] error while loading shared libraries: libatk-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [02:12] in snap [02:13] lotuspsychje don't like default behaviour. less secure/private [02:15] Intelo: file a wishlist bug, and maybe the devs might listen to your idea [02:15] which snap package has libatk? [02:16] lotuspsychje thanks [02:20] linsux: many -- snap packages should have all needed libraries installed so it could be bad snap or host unable to share the librarie [02:22] ok i reinstalled and it works [02:22] strange [02:22] i remove and reinstalled [02:22] as long as it works [02:23] if i add the .snap package, will it update it later? [02:23] when there's new release [02:24] yes [02:24] Intelo: edit /etc/adduser.conf to set the permissions you want homedirs created with [02:25] so .snap has the repository too [02:25] i mean that .snap file [02:25] sort of yes [02:26] imbezol thanks [02:27] imbezol lotuspsychje it seems when I press alt,ctrl, F1/2/3/4 , each user asks for wifi password or main sudo user password. the main user already connected interent. so is there a solution by which all get internet? (assuming that the first user who loggedin, already set the internet up). This is a desktop system [02:28] go into your network settings, find the interface, select connect automatically, and select all users may connect to this network [02:28] linsux: Note that there are ways of installing Snaps that makes them not update (I think it's --dangerous and --devmode that do this). [02:29] So if you used one of those options, be warned. [02:38] imbezol connect auto was already there but still i get this first sudo user password prompt. Also there are no "to be allowed users" list https://imgur.com/UxsT1n3.png === arraybolt3_ is now known as arraybolt3 [04:04] Hi, Im trying to install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/2.36-0ubuntu2 [04:04] but I have no idea how [04:05] Im using Ubuntu 22.04 [04:06] current version of glibc in ppa is 2.32, and I need at least 2.35 [04:06] is there a ppa with more up to date version of it that I can use? [04:51] Holarctic: Upgrading libc is, like, one of the ultimate "don't ever, ever, EVER do this" things in Ubuntu. [04:51] i'm having a problem installing the purple-facebook plugin for pidgin, libpurple0 isn't available and if i try to install the .deb package it says about dependencies. [04:51] arraybolt3 Im not going to do it [04:51] I was mistaken, thing that I need from it is coming in 2.38 [04:52] Holarctic: Sorry. What you might be able to do is run a rolling-release distro like Arch in a virtual machine and run the app you need in there. [04:52] and I dont imagine ubuntu is going to support it any time soon [04:53] used this page's instructions to install: https://jgeboski.github.io/#package-repositories [04:54] Holarctic: Another possible solution would be to build libc from source and use it only for the one app that needs it, like described here: https://serverfault.com/questions/422396/what-can-go-wrong-with-a-glibc-upgrade [04:55] I would guess you would use LD_LIBRARY_PATH to tell your app which libc to use. [04:56] hmm its worth looking into [04:58] at least itll be another project to have my professor say, this is not what Im looking for [07:19] Holarctic: quick solutions are to use LXC to create a container with that thing inside, or a docker container, or something similar. [07:20] you can get some bleeding edge rolling release distro for that. It'll probably break every few weeks, as they do, but it will have new things [07:22] but it seems 22.04 has glibc source 2.35, and 22.10 will have 2.36. Not sure how this connects to the actual glibc. [07:23] libc6/jammy-updates,now 2.35-0ubuntu3.1 amd64 [installed] [07:23] seems it's the same === diskin is now known as Guest2308 === diskin_ is now known as diskin [07:56] cbreak thanks for the suggestion, Im gonna try a docker container. I should learn docker, and theres no day like today [07:57] Also it would appear that I didnt upgrade my packages and I was running an old version === pascalm1 is now known as pascalm [08:30] hi all Bus 001 Device 004: ID 2357:0108 TP-Link TL-WN822N Version 4 RTL8192EU [08:30] on ubuntu 22.04 die verbindung wird unterbrochen [08:34] palme, i see 2 github projects, https://github.com/clnhub/rtl8192eu-linux and https://github.com/Mange/rtl8192eu-linux-driver, [08:34] 1st one should be supported up to the next kernel 6.0 [08:38] oerheky danke für schnelle antwort [08:39] this maybe a silly question but how do you make an app run in a specific netns? [08:41] ip netns exec [08:42] Habbie, so that would mean 'ip netns exec firefox' for example? [08:43] yes [08:43] uh, plus the actual NETNS name [08:44] as simple as that, I thought that was only used to modify the namespace itself [08:44] thanks a mil [08:44] hi, with the last few upgrades I had some packages "held back" so i had to `apt install` them manually, then `apt-mark` them as auto-installed. Even `apt dist-upgrade` didn't try to install them - what am I doing wrong? [08:50] ldericher, use upgrade instead of install next time. [08:50] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html [08:50] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhasedUpdates [08:51] we should really have a factoid explaining phased updates ... [08:51] I removed /etc/postgresql and reinstalled it but now it doesn't goes up. How can i fix? [08:52] or apt could et least mention the reason why packages are held back [08:52] that too [08:53] Active: active (exited) [08:53] Intelo, check the log output for that service [08:54] Sep 12 11:48:27 3400g systemd[1]: Starting PostgreSQL RDBMS... [08:54] Sep 12 11:48:27 3400g systemd[1]: Finished PostgreSQL RDBMS. [08:54] ok checking [08:55] also a reinstall does not always work without a porper purge of all files [08:57] could not bind IPv4 address "0.0.0.0": Address already in use [08:57] lock file "/var/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5432.lock" alread [08:58] ravage any clues? [08:58] ravage, so the packages are "held back" as long as they're not stable enough? [08:59] ldericher, yes [09:00] Intelo, did you try to reboot the server? looks like there is already a running instance of that database [09:00] doing === pascalm1 is now known as pascalm [09:00] active (exited) seems to be normal [09:00] i testes it on a fresh 22.04 container [09:01] ok. waiting for him to come back :P [09:02] ravage, thanks :) [09:11] I removed and reinstalled postgresql. No I do not have a directory named /etc/postgresql/ . It was there before. Actually i deleted the 'postgresql' dir first but now after reinstall, its not being created and pg isn't runign [09:14] Intelo, what does "sudo systemctl status postgresql@13-main.service" output [09:15] I guess I should have 14. (also had 12 but not 13) [09:15] checking [09:15] then try 14 [09:19] ravage funny https://pastebin.mozilla.org/1nhpPWuL [09:19] Intelo, do you need the database contents? [09:20] or do you have a backup? [09:20] db is not an issue [09:20] then remove all installed postgres packages with --purge [09:21] how? [09:21] sudo apt purge postgresql-14 postgresql ? [09:21] one moment. i have to look up how you find old config files of removed packages [09:21] do the autoremove first [09:22] 'sudo apt autoremove' [09:22] now which one I install? postgresql or postgresql14? [09:23] does "sudo dpkg -l | grep '^rc' | awk '{print $2}'" show any postgres stuff? [09:23] no [09:24] then try "sudo apt install postgresql-14 postgresql-client-14 postgresql-client-common postgresql-common" [09:24] all already installed [09:24] but /etc/postgresql/ does not exists [09:25] try it with --reinstall [09:25] doing [09:26] same [09:26] "sudo apt purge postgresql-14 postgresql-client-14 postgresql-client-common postgresql-common" [09:26] then install again [09:26] done [09:27] what next>>? [09:27] result? [09:27] it purged [09:27] do the install command [09:28] donig [09:30] ravage postgesql-common dir was created but other thigns same [09:31] "sudo mkdir /etc/postgresql/14; sudo pg_createcluster 14 main" [09:32] isn't it Configuring already existing cluster (configuration: /etc/postgresql/14/main, data: /var/lib/postgresql/14/main, owner: 124:135) [09:32] Error: move_conffile: required configuration file /var/lib/postgresql/14/main/postgresql.conf does not exist [09:33] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2748607/how-to-thoroughly-purge-and-reinstall-postgresql-on-ubuntu [09:33] try option B here [09:40] ravage seems working. checking [09:41] Hey I need some help please, on Ubuntu 20.04 I was able to run: "/usr/bin/localectl set-keymap gb" to set the keyboard to UK layout. However, I am trying to set this now on Ubuntu 22.04 and when I run that I now get the error: "Failed to set keymap: Keymap gb is not installed.". Can anyone help? Am I missing a package that I need to install for the UK layout? [09:45] Cmccrorie: does dpkg-reconfigure locales help? [09:48] ravage thank you! now only left with https://pastebin.mozilla.org/26oxmZWV [09:51] Intelo, https://tecadmin.net/postgresql-allow-remote-connections/ [09:53] cbreak,unfortunately not. that would have been useful for set-locale and at the moment I have that working. It is the set-keymap that does not seem to be working now on Ubuntu 22.04. [09:56] Cmccrorie, is this a desktop system? [09:57] It is running on a Ubuntu 22.04 VM image. [09:58] ravege this one to be exact - http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/minimal/releases arch=amd64 release=jammy [09:58] so you do not have a GUI [09:59] does "loadkeys gb" work? [10:02] https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/all/console-data/filelist console-data should include all keymaps [10:02] shouldnt you just edit /etc/default/keyboard ? [10:03] sudo localectl set-keymap gb [10:03] or "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to get the interactive kbd configuration [10:03] hi [10:04] ravege,the loadkey command does not work. And I will take a look at etc/default/keyboard. However, I am trying to work this out as a command such as that worked with Ubuntu 20.04 so that I can then automate this process. [10:09] hi guys. I have bluetooth headphones connected to my notebook with ubuntu. Is it possible to record every sound in one file? For example, I connect to some webinar and I want to record what I'm saying and what people saying [10:11] Hi. I have an odd issue. I am trying to run a shell script as a systemd service, but it is partly failing and I can't understand why. The shell script runs rsync --password-file=/opt/rsync/rsyncpw [10:12] sakhd, https://www.maketecheasier.com/record-system-sound-linux/ [10:12] When I run the shell script manually it works fine but when I run systemctl start myservice.service it runs the shell script, but rsync gives the warning "@ERROR: auth failed on module c-disk" [10:13] Any idea? [10:13] Forza, wrong permissions to the password file? [10:14] ravage: no. I checked this and it is 0600 on rsync user. If I change it to something else, rsync says it has wrong permissions [10:14] ravage, it record either from mic or from system :( [10:15] sakhd, you should be able to record a monitor source [10:15] Oh when I do sudo -u rsyncuser script.sh I get the same error [10:15] Maybe some environment issue? [10:15] sakhd, you could merge two audio files into one using audacity [10:16] you mean i can record mic and system simultaneously? [10:16] Yeah, as a fallback to consider [10:17] Is there an official firefox deb package repository from mozilla for ubuntu 22.04? [10:17] sakhd, https://gist.github.com/varqox/c1a5d93d4d685ded539598676f550be8 for example [10:17] kkkssf, no [10:18] Hm so I do sudo -u rsyncuser bash, then run the script, I still get the same error. But why? Cat /opt/rsync/rsyncpw works, so it is readable as it should [10:19] ravage, thank you. is there a simpler solution? :) [10:21] Hm. Could it be that rsync server is checking the user who connects, and not just the password? [10:21] sakhd, it may be easier with Pipewire. it has some nice GUIs like https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/helvum but never tried it [10:22] Forza, the password file usualls has the user: user:password [10:23] kkkssf, https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/install-firefox-deb-ubuntu-22-04/ gives a ppa, but is way behind. unless you use the ESR package [10:23] or you can connect with user@remotehost [10:24] kkkssf, there is also no guarantee this PPA stays around (in which case it would just silently stop providing (security) updates) ... [10:25] also ppa:mozillateam/firefox-next is out of date [10:25] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/31H36jWX [10:25] oerheks, the answer is still just no here really :) [10:26] there are many blogs that give these solutions, just saying they are EOL [10:26] ravage: didn't help. [10:28] I'm having a problem using grub-install, described here: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/31H36jWX. Help much appreciated! [10:31] ravage: https://dpaste.com/EZDQX94NE [10:32] Very bizzare. I think then I need to make systemd to run the shell script as root user, but it doesn't help adding user=root in the. service file [10:32] Maybe I should install cronie or something like that [10:35] Forza, can you pastebin 'namei -l /opt/maskindata/rsyncpw' [10:43] Habbie: https://dpaste.com/68R6MYE4W [10:44] I think it must be that the rsync server expects user "root" [10:47] But even when I run the service as root, it still doesn't work through systemd, only when running from the shell [10:48] the user you run the command with does not matter at all [10:48] you have to authenticate to the rsyncd with the right credentials [10:48] I think I solved it [10:49] I had to do #!/bin/bash -l [10:49] In the script.sh that systemd service calls [10:49] So a login shell. Maybe without rsync can't see what user it runs at? odd anyway [10:49] Still only works as root and not user [10:52] hello [10:52] Hello Guest3493 [10:53] whats is this chat about? [10:54] !chat | Guest3493 [10:54] Guest3493: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [10:54] ravage: seems on the rsync server the passwd file has root:password, but can I use the same even if the client is running as another user? [10:54] (y) [10:54] Forza, yes [10:55] ravage: seems not. If I use root:password in the --password-file then it doesn't work, even as root. So maybe there is something else I am missing [10:56] do you connect with root@remotehost ? [10:57] hi there [10:57] ravage: no, just rsync://host/module/path [10:58] Anyone get a chance to read my problem description in that pastebin above? [10:58] shiba: hello [11:00] ravage: ahh. That was the issue. Rsync://root@remote/.,.... [11:00] ravage: working now. Thank you! [11:01] * ravage 40 minutes ago: "or you can connect with user@remotehost" [11:02] but im glad you found out now [11:02] ravage: sorry, I missed that [11:02] :) [11:02] I am grateful for your help [11:03] Hi [11:03] by some reason my ubuntu 20.04 randomly reboots itself. [11:03] Not really know what the problem is. [11:03] Payam__: have you done a memtest? [11:04] How do I do that? [11:04] I'd search "Ubuntu test ram" or similar [11:05] Could also happen if CPU overheats [11:05] Payam__, but https://www.memtest.org/download/v6.00b3/mt86plus_6.00b3_64.iso.zip on a USB drive and boot it [11:05] Though I think it usually stays off in that case [11:05] https://www.memtest.org/ see FAQ [11:06] I don't see the grub whan the computer boots up [11:06] it does right to log in page [11:06] dabbler_, I have a conky on and temperature is fine. [11:07] Does it show GPU temp too? [11:07] no but I can try to print that out too [11:08] you can also check the systemlogs before the reboot [11:08] maybe they show something [11:09] "journalctl -b1" should show the right boot [11:09] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/k5N7RGcvhD/ [11:10] that looks like your current boot [11:10] try b2 maybe [11:11] journalctl --list-boots [11:11] shows them all [11:11] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tZ793gSD6J/ [11:12] so it was up for 4 days? [11:12] yes [11:12] could be [11:13] ravage, Kazam is the best solution. It can record both mic and system sound. But it will also record video. Anyway, it is the easiest way [11:13] sakhd, great :) [11:13] Payam__, i would do the memtest and see if that shows anything [11:16] ravage, would you mind taking a look at this? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/31H36jWX [11:16] dabbler_, i did. cant really help with that [11:16] Ah ok. Thanks [11:16] Hopefully someone gets back to me in #grub [11:17] you could try "strace -e file grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot" for example [11:18] or just your grub-install command [11:18] maybe the strace can give you mor information on which file does not exist [11:19] it will be a lot of information. so prepare for some deep look into that logfile [11:20] Oh yeah, that's what it's called. Vaguely remembered there was a way to see file access [11:22] I'll try that, but first… does it make sense to you that booting my system using manual grub commands and booting to installation "disc" then mounting my partitions should be equivalent as long as the target, boot-directory, and efi-directory arguments to grub-install get prepended appropriately? [11:22] if you can get the system to boot manually sure [11:23] you may get better results [11:24] I tried that following the instructions in that AskUbuntu answer, but for some reason it acted like my boot partition didn't contain a grub directory, so I couldn't proceed that way. Mounted from USB installer the directory is right there, though [11:24] I'll try again before trying strace [11:25] i think if that happened to me i would just wipe the drive and install fresh [11:25] then restore my backup :) [11:26] Well, this is my first installation of Linux on this MacBook, so I don't have any backup images of the boot and EFI partitions :( [11:27] I wish the installer had detected it was a Mac and warned me more work would be needed before it wiped out my macos installation [11:28] The installer won't result in a bootable machine out of the box [11:28] well. blame apple for not providing information to the open source community [11:30] but there are guides so install Ubuntu/Linux on apple hardware and specific models [11:30] i just never bothererd to look into it. never had such hardware ever [11:31] It's not really a lack of info. It's that Apple's unique EFI requires the ESP to use an HFS+ filesystem and be "blessed" (whitelisting using an apple tool) before it'll show up as an available boot device [11:32] The installer could use HFS+ for the ESP on macs but doesn't [11:33] And it seems there used to be someone's PPA that had a port of the bless tool, but it's 404 now [11:33] you can create that partition during the installation process [11:34] you just have to do the manual partition layout [11:34] It doesn't offer HFS+ as a filesystem option [11:35] Why sometimes I see network interface name changes.. ?? Like I have nice, fine, Netplan settings, with network metric for 2 wired LAN adapters, and suddenly one of them stopped working , because Linux started calling it another name.. [11:35] I didn't try apt installing hfsprogs before getting to that stage of the installer but I kinda doubt it'd help === solsTiCe0 is now known as solsTiCe [11:35] It happened from time to time before and happened also today.. So I needed to change my settings in netplan to name network interface, that changed it's name like by itself.. [11:36] Why network interface name even ghanges ? [11:37] like from enp3s0 and netplan-enp3s0 to enp4s0 [11:37] nikolam, there should be no changes on real hardware. it may happen on VMs after changes to the hardware configuration [11:37] nikolam: changes in the pci addresses / drivers [11:41] dabbler_, https://randomtutor.blogspot.com/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-on-retina-macbook-pro.html did you check out Refind in general? [11:41] as i said i have no experience with Macs at all. but that seems to be the way to boot linux on those things [11:42] maybe it got easier over the years. but xou would have to check for instructions on your specific model [11:45] ravage, yeah, grub claims there's not even a 'boot' directory in the boot partition, which is bs. When mounted using the installer ISO, the directory is right there. And it's definitely the same filesystem based on what grub's ls of it shows [11:45] It's not in lvm or encrypted or anything. Just a plain old ext4 [11:47] Using refind is an option but it's supposedly not necessary anymore. And at least one guide writer recommends sticking with Apple's EFI, which I'd rather do since I'm not sure I could easily restore it if I wanted to [11:51] There must be a tool to write to the firmware (since refind has to do that), but I don't know where I'd get a copy of the original EFI. Unless that same tool will back it up first. Hmm… I'll look into refind while I wait on #grub [11:57] cbreak, ravage yes, real hardware HP 600 G1 i5 4570 [11:59] hey [12:02] oxfuxxx: sup. Taking a break from the oxen? :P === pah is now known as pa [12:23] double clicking on a .sh file or executable .txt to run as a program doesn't work in Ubuntu 22.04. How do I get that function back? I am able to right click and get a context menu option to run as program but not double click. [12:28] Client: HexChat 2.16.0 • OS: Ubuntu "jammy" 22.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz (2,60GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7,5 Gio Total (5,3 Gio Free) Swap: 2,0 Gio Total (2,0 Gio Free) • Storage: 145,1 Go / 1,2 To (1,1 To Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 @ Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core Processor Host Bridg [12:28] e/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 2h 38m 18s [12:34] Howdy everyone [12:35] welcome thesyldat [12:36] Thanks [12:36] I'm fiddlin' with Hexchat trying to setup my colours the right way [12:36] :P [12:37] !discuss | thesyldat to chitchat [12:37] thesyldat to chitchat: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [12:38] oops sorry [12:43] nunya: maybe one of the nautilus addons from the repos [12:46] lotuspsychje:I use thunar. I don't like nautilus. [12:47] are you using anither ubuntu flavour nunya ? [12:47] lotuspsychje:where would I get those addons any way? [12:47] nunya: apt-cache search nautilus [12:47] lotuspsychje:I'm using Ubuntu 22.04 I added thunar because I like it better [12:48] nunya: nautilus-admin for example might be your case [12:51] Thanks! [13:04] shalom [13:05] Hi. I've just rebooted after a dist upgrade, there seems to be some bios problem now, my laptop screen isn't recognized, I'm stuck at 640x480, and there's no WiFi [13:05] I'm on the phone here and pretty desperate [13:06] https://pastebin.com/mLaTVb3i [13:06] can someone help me sort what i'm sure is an easy upgrade issue [13:06] i have one package that won't upgrade [13:08] Lacrymology: try reverting to the previous kernel [13:09] Leftyfb how tho [13:10] hi eliyahutbr, i just found this https://askubuntu.com/questions/1341276/no-dell-linux-assistant-program-upgrade with a link to https://launchpad.net/~somerville-dla-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=focal [13:10] it seems obsolete? [13:13] Lacrymology: https://www.howtogeek.com/740797/how-to-roll-back-the-kernel-in-linux/ [13:14] This very much looks like Ubuntu tried to patch the firmware and failed [13:15] Lacrymology: ubuntu does not try to "patch firmware" as part of dist-upgrade [13:16] Then there's something wrong since before and I've never noticed. I'll show you in a minute [13:17] I found that it'd left some old kernels around and was able to boot, thanks [13:17] I just wasn't sure how do access the grub menu [13:17] Lacrymology: the issue was more likely due to your latest kernel not pulling down the modules package [13:17] Brb [13:19] okay, I'm in from the computer now, there's a lot of packages that need updating, so with any luck that'll.. help? [13:19] lacrymology: the issue was more likely due to your latest kernel not pulling down the modules package [13:20] lacrymology: what release of ubuntu are you running? [13:21] leftyfb: 22.04 after upgrade [13:22] lacrymology: apt list --installed |grep ^linux | nc termbin.com 9999 [13:23] leftyfb: I think no output [13:23] I mean, there's.. a bunch of things, like it tried to walk through my home? [13:23] lacrymology: it should have spit out a URL for uou [13:23] you* [13:23] nope [13:24] thanks @oerhek [13:24] thanks @oerheks [13:24] lacrymology: you might not have typed it correctly [13:24] leftyfb: the ^ did something in my shell, I quoted it [13:25] lacrymology: the command I gave doesn't have quotes [13:25] https://termbin.com/nbpx [13:25] leftyfb: I had to quote the `^` [13:27] lacrymology: cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999 [13:28] Hi, I can't do a distupgrade to 22.04 LTS because my /boot is too small. My boot is 700MB and I only have a single kernel (also compressed) already. I don't see how I can reduce disk usage even more. Why does it need 580MB in /boot to do a distupgrade [13:29] leftyfb: https://termbin.com/gr2x [13:30] Guest62: because it needs to place at least one more kernel image there during the upgrade. but you can change the compression type, or include less modules, that can work around this issue. [13:31] lacrymology: you should remove --purge linux-generic-hwe-20.04 [13:31] lacrymology: sudo apt remove --purge --autoremove linux-generic-hwe-20.04 [13:32] tomreyn: Including less modules requires me to build my own kernel, right? [13:32] Guest62: echo 'COMPRESS=xz' | sudo tee -a /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/compress >/dev/null && sudo update-initramfs -ck all [13:32] leftyfb: thanks. Why? Or rather why didn't it happen by itself? I mean, not important, just weird [13:33] I'll do it after the system finishes updating packages [13:33] lacrymology: why? because it's a package meant for 20.04. Why didn't it get removed as part of the upgrade? I don't know [13:34] I think it might have been interrupted, or worked weirdly because I left it unattended and didn't realize it was asking for my input on a couple things [13:34] thanks for the tips [13:35] tomreyn: That bought me 60MB, still not enough, I need 50MB more unfortunately [13:36] Guest62: including less modules can be done with echo 'MODULES=dep' | sudo tee -a /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/compress >/dev/null && sudo update-initramfs -ck all [13:36] Guest62: but this can result in building an initrd which you cannot boot from. [13:37] tomreyn: Alright thank you, I'll have to read up to find out if I can do that safely then, thank you for the help! [13:40] Guest62: do you actually need a separate /boot file system, though? [13:41] tomreyn: I am not sure really. It appears that switching to "xz" was enough for the installer to go through. I don't quite get why but fingers crossed I can boot after hah [13:44] beause you also change the size requirement of the future kernel when switching compression to xz and the installer computes the new size of teh furture initrd too [13:45] I assumed it was something like that, thanks for confirming. Glad the combination did the trick, didn't expect lz4/xz to have such drastic size differences [13:46] long term you should resize your partitoning though ... initrd's sadly tend to grow ... bigger firmware blobs, new/bigger modules etc [13:47] or move /boot to your root file system - if that's possible. [13:47] I'll look into it. I'm surprised a 700MB /boot is considered too small. [13:47] debian ubuntu centos [13:48] This is why i like ubuntu, install in one partition standard [13:48] kali linux [13:48] redhat [13:48] i have [13:48] :== [13:48] ufuk: please stop [13:48] yes yes [13:48] yes [13:48] ufuk, hi, this is not the trivia channel [13:48] ufuk: this channel is for ubuntu support questions only. [13:49] If it's not a triva channel, it's a sex channel, right? [13:49] I have a little question about ubuntu [13:51] nooo [13:56] dabbler_, whats the status? EriC^^ usually has some EFI knowledge. But i dont know how busy he is :) [13:57] (and how much that helps with strange apple hardware :() [13:58] what's up ravage dabbler_ ? [13:59] grub on a mac. basic install does not boot. from a live USB he gets this: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/31H36jWX [14:00] but maybe wait if he is still around :) [14:01] first off i think he should chroot, seems he's doing stuff from outside (/media/root/blabla) [14:01] alright :) [14:02] reading the guide currently [14:24] EriC^^: hi! [14:25] I think there's at least one omission in the instructions in that AskUbuntu answer: after creating the HFS+ filesystem, they don't mount it before trying to put things in it [14:26] (I did) [14:26] I tried chrooting, but I've never done it before so didn't have much success. I didn't get very far [14:27] I thought it might not be necessary given given those arguments to grub-install [14:28]