[00:13] <lantech19446> I just upgraded my server to 22.04 it now tells me that there are 204 packages that are upgradeable but when I try to run them it says all 204 have been kept back. Any insight into why that might happen?
[00:16] <lantech19446> nm found an answer
[00:25] <deego> what was it?
[00:27] <genii> Probably an upgrade vs dist-upgrade
[00:28] <sarnold> probably apt phasing
[00:28] <ogra> 204 phased packages ?
[00:28]  * genii phases himself over to the coffeepot
[00:30] <sarnold> ogra: that's the fun! apt doesn't say why :(
[00:53] <lantech19446> what genii said
[00:53] <lantech19446> and had to be repeated several times because every time I did it it would remove stuff too and then other packages would show up as upgradeable lol
[00:54] <lantech19446> just made it through everything
[00:55] <sarnold> woot
[00:56] <dabbler_> ravage: Does btrfs support sending incremental snapshots between machines (replication) like zfs does?
[01:00] <dabbler_> Or at least between btrfs instances
[01:43] <barg> I have a digitalocean VPS running Ubuntu.  If I do wget www.google.com then it works  but if I do wget 164.92.121.50/mdill.axx  then that doesn't work.  Though that wget line works from home, just not on the digitalocean server! If I do ufw status, then it says inactive. So it dosen't seem to be a firewall issue. I also have a VPS server from vultr. And that line doesn't work there either!
[01:44] <doc> can you curl  164.92.121.50
[01:44] <doc> ?
[01:45] <barg> from home, yes. From the VPS, No!
[01:46] <doc> what response do you get?
[01:46] <barg> from home- I get some HTML
[01:46] <kriztmark> barg do u hav e an csgo server on your vps
[01:46] <barg> from the VPS- I get no response
[01:47] <barg> kriztmark: a what server?!
[01:47] <kriztmark> counter strike global offensive
[01:47] <barg> no
[01:48] <barg> i tried ping and nmap on that 164 IP. Ping works. Nmap shows port 80 as filtered (not open)
[01:48] <barg> From home, nmap shows port 80 open
[01:48] <sarnold> barg: http servers allow name-based virtualization -- you may need to supply the server name via a --header="Host: whateverthenameis" option
[01:48] <barg> From VPS, I can wget www.google.com
[01:49] <doc> barg: I tried tracepath and got a result that matches this https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=857342. Might be a starting point for you
[01:49] <doc> I can't connect to it from here either
[01:51] <barg> sarnold:  I don't think there is a domain associated  with the IP
[01:51] <rfm> yeah, I get "filtered" from nmap from home to 164.92.121.50 port 80
[01:51] <tomreyn> barg: i don't seem to be able to connect to 164.92.121.50 (a digital ocean ip address) on ports 80 (http) or 443 (https) fro multiple locations. i suspect that you have a 'special' setup at home, where you can just seemingly connect anywhere - maybe a http proxy?
[01:51] <barg> no my connection from home is very very normal
[01:52] <tomreyn> it's not if you can connect to an ip address from there which no one else can connect to
[01:52] <barg> i think others can too just some can't
[01:52] <rfm> I would suspect firewall rules on the 164.92.121.50 (or a router leading to it) that block traffic to port 80 except from your home network
[01:53] <barg> digitalocean don't know what my home network is!
[01:53] <rfm> where *is* that 164.92... machine located?
[01:53] <barg> probably NY
[01:54] <rfm> I mean,  whose network is it on?
[01:55] <barg> i don't know. it's a computer I set up with digitalocean
[01:55] <barg> so digitalocean run the network it is on
[01:56] <barg> interestingly this online port scanner can't see it.. so maybe I am the only person that can see it, though that makes no sense!  https://hackertarget.com/nmap-online-port-scanner/
[01:56] <barg> i thought that online port scanner would see it but it didn't.. very strange.
[01:57] <rfm> AWS, I remember, made it very easy to set the firewall rules (security profile) so that only the IP that created a server could get at it...
[01:58] <rfm> so I think you need to check into the way that server is set up.
[01:58] <doc> If digitalocean does it's a new thing. Never did with my droplets.
[02:03] <tomreyn> digitalocean do have a free configurable 'cloud firewall', but it doesn't seem to be active by default. https://docs.digitalocean.com/support/check-your-cloud-firewall-settings/
[02:07] <barg> ah darn i did have a firewall rule on that web server, doh
[02:07] <barg> sorry about that
[02:08] <tomreyn> :) glad you found it.
[02:22] <barg> thanks
[03:07] <Intelo> When I press alt,ctrl,f1/12 , login to a tty, startx, from second user, the first user and all other tty users' desktop is not reachable via applications like x2go, anydesk etc. Its a black screen. How can I login GUI users and let them work simultaneously and also screenshare/access their account and they can share each others desktop? e.g I use
[03:07] <Intelo> tty1, then switch to tty2, now person connecting to tty1 remotely will get a black screen. <= whats the solution?  The only solution I see is to have many many vbox guests for each user. (not optimal).
[03:59] <Intelo> can I install firefox (no desktop manager) on a vps with 1g ram. install x2goserver there. then access published apps via x2gocllent from a remote pc?
[04:45] <Intelo> Can someone see my messages?
[04:45] <enigma9o7[m]> Thousands can.
[04:46] <Intelo> Ok, I was messaging since ages and no one replied. I thought maybe I was mute
[05:25] <alkisg> Intelo: use xrdp or x2go to create these sessions; then these go into virtual displays and work fine no matter which vt you're viewing
[05:26] <alkisg> Then to share these virtual sessions with other people, use vnc or anydesk or any other tool
[05:27] <alkisg> Re: vps, sure, but firefox with 1 GB RAM isn't really useful, a single gmail page requires more than that
[05:40] <Intelo> alkisg step 1, tty1, login to x via startx,  step  2: allow remote user to access screen, that goes ok. 3: I switch to tty7, The moment I do it, the remote access person sees a black unusable screen.
[05:41] <alkisg> Intelo: startx doesn't give you a virtual screen, so that's exactly my advice, don't use it
[05:41] <alkisg> It conflicts with your use case
[05:50] <Intelo> alkisg so what do I use then?
[05:50] <alkisg> Intelo: as I said, you use xrdp or x2go; these create the virtual screens for you
[05:51] <alkisg> People that login using xrdp or x2go get virtual screens that do not map to VTs and can share their screens using VNC or anydesk or whatever else they want
[05:51] <Intelo> so I have to create new session of lets say "user1" via x2go from a) remote user b) where ? (as I am local to myself)
[05:52] <alkisg> Remote users use x2go.You use lightdm or gdm or whatever DM you have
[05:52] <alkisg> Then each one of you can share their screen with vnc, anydesk etc
[05:52] <alkisg> I.e. you don't need any fancy stuff, just a default ubuntu installation, plus apt install xrdp
[05:53] <alkisg> No configuration needed at all
[05:54] <Intelo> ok let me conclude my issues: can you tell me exact steps so I can see user1,2,3 screen, use it, and the user1,2,3 can also remote access it.
[05:54] <Intelo> Secondly, I just observed anydesk works on low bandwidth, x2go is not usable on low bankdwidth. anydesk is paid. High cost. Any sugestions?
[05:56] <alkisg> 1) Install Ubuntu, 2) Login with lighdm/gdm, 3) Install xrdp, 4) Remote users login with xfreerdp or windows mstsc, 5) install vnc or anydesk or epoptes.org for screen sharing between users
[05:57] <Intelo> 3) can be x2go also. right?
[05:58] <alkisg> Right, but it requires more bandwidth
[05:58] <Intelo> alkisg ok, which is the fastest on low band?
[05:58] <alkisg> And it makes it somewhat harder to login from windows remote clients
[05:58] <alkisg> And it won't be portable in the wayland era later on
[05:59] <alkisg> The proprietary solutions,while for open source, it's between xrdp and x2go
[05:59] <Intelo> vnc, x2go , rdp or ?
[05:59] <alkisg> VNC is the worst on low bandwidth
[05:59] <Intelo> ok
[06:00] <Intelo> alkisg I think if I login to user1 via x2go and someone else logs in to user1 from another remote locaiton. I think we both will see the same desktop. Thus sharing?
[06:01] <Intelo> so no need for anydesk
[06:01] <Intelo> or teamviewer
[06:01] <alkisg> Intelo: you shouldn't login to the same session, it will cause data corruption
[06:01] <Intelo> oh, what kind of ? sure?
[06:01] <alkisg> Many programs are not designed for simultaneous access, e.g. if you open the dconf database twice, you'll break it
[06:02] <Intelo> then I have to use proprietry software. There seems no other solution?
[06:02] <alkisg> And it won't be screen sharing, it will be a new session
[06:02] <alkisg> The one I wrote above
[06:02] <alkisg> You login with your OWN user locally, THEN you share the userX screen
[06:02] <alkisg> If you want to initiate the userX screen, then you should use xrdp or x2go after you login with your OWN user locally
[06:03] <alkisg> Then that virtual session can be paused or resumed elsewhere
[06:03] <alkisg> Do NOT use local session for remote users
[06:03] <Intelo> there is slight confusion , if eliminated, will solve all
[06:03] <Intelo> when we say "login" , let it be UI login
[06:04] <Intelo> so if I login "locally" on multiple accounts lets say acc1, acc2, acc3  <-- this is not what you are sayhing?
[06:05] <Intelo> the only way I can login locally to multiple users is via tty
[06:05] <Intelo> and that is not what you are sayhing
[06:05] <alkisg> When we say "locally", we need to redefine if you mean "at the display manager" or "after  login, using x2go, to do a second login in a window"
[06:05] <Intelo> isee
[06:05] <alkisg> My suggestion is that you only login once at the display manager. Only one vt should have xorg running.
[06:05] <Intelo> so if I understand correctly, I will login via x2go locally
[06:06] <alkisg> AFTER you normally login at the DM, of course
[06:06] <Intelo> ok
[06:06] <alkisg> So you login as intelo at the DM, then you login as user1 using x2go, in a window
[06:06] <alkisg> Then user1 can take over that session if they login from elsewhere
[06:06] <alkisg> Then they can share their screen with you using anydesk or vnc
[06:06] <Intelo> but I cannot share user1 screen without proprietry software <-- problem
[06:07] <alkisg> Nope, you can use vnc just fine
[06:07] <alkisg> Both x2go and xrdp allow a remote user to take over the session you started in a window
[06:07] <alkisg> Then you can use vnc for screen sharing
[06:08] <Intelo> so with x2go and vnc, 2 people can login to same acc1 at the same time? thus resulting in screenshare / simultaneous access of same session?
[06:08] <alkisg> No. Only one person should login to one account, otherwise you have file corruption
[06:08] <Intelo> oh
[06:08] <alkisg> When the remote user1 logs in using xrdp, your session in a window will close
[06:08] <Intelo> so vnc is different
[06:09] <alkisg> THEN you will do VNC screen sharing and you will see the single login
[06:09] <Intelo> 2 people can login/access acc1 at same time via vnc but not via x2go and rdp?
[06:09] <alkisg> VNC is screen sharing, it's not "double login", which would run all the processes twice, open all files twice, corrupt them etc
[06:10] <alkisg> x2go and xrdp are logins, not screen sharing. VNC is screen sharing
[06:10] <Intelo> I see
[06:10] <alkisg> (there are some plugins that alter some behavior but let's ignore them for now as you're already confused :))
[06:10] <Intelo> is this relevant here? https://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:usage:desktop-sharing
[06:10] <alkisg> That's the plugin ^ :)
[06:11] <alkisg> It uses vnc to do screen sharing; it's essentially the same as running vnc directly. Don't bother with it, it'll just confuse you
[06:11] <Intelo> so if I use it, I can do "connection to local desktop" option in drop down of x2go client and that will be like vnc?
[06:11] <alkisg> Sure
[06:12] <Intelo> https://imgur.com/5yHtAyl.png
[06:12] <alkisg> But note that this will only work if user1 wants to connect to intelo desktop
[06:12] <alkisg> It won't allow user1 to connect to user1 desktop
[06:12] <Intelo> alkisg I found "connectiosn to local desktop, x2go as a whole and vnc as VERY slow as compared to anydesk.... not even usable
[06:13] <alkisg> Yes, that plugin is slower than VNC, that's why I suggested to completely ignore it
[06:13] <Intelo> alkisg I have server+client on both machines
[06:13] <Intelo> alxndr I don't know why x2go is also slower than anydesk. I have low band
[06:13] <Intelo> 5mbp connection
[06:14] <Intelo> for users
[06:14] <Intelo> even 2mpbs
[06:14] <alkisg> Because anydesk is proprietary so its developers get paid better
[06:14] <Intelo> only anydesk works
[06:14] <Intelo> ya... :)
[06:14] <Intelo> Thank you! if you get into any other ideas, do let me know!
[06:15] <alkisg> I'm not aware of any issues, the solution I suggested works fine
[06:15] <alkisg> So I'm not sure of which ideas you need :)
[06:15] <Intelo> else I have to install x2go on a VPS with 1g ram and only x11,xorg,firefox
[06:15] <alkisg> You may want to state your goal
[06:15] <Intelo> alkisg ideas on low band
[06:16] <Intelo> alkisg let them access a browser. thats all (for now)
[06:16] <alkisg> Because up to now you've been asking for specific tools but you haven't mentioned the actual goal
[06:16] <Obsdark> Hello there, a question
[06:16] <Intelo> for all other things, I use terminal, vpn etc. and that is working super fine
[06:16] <alkisg> Because "multiple 2 mbps connections to 1 GB RAM VPS" doesn't sound like a good approach for anything
[06:17] <alkisg> E.g. if your whole plan is to do IP spoofing, use a proxy server, not a remote firefox...
[06:17] <Obsdark> i'm trying to connect through FTP to a virtual machine server i have but i forgot the password and/or port of the user, i have access to the machine through ssh, so i connect, change the user password and use the port than apparead in config but still no connection.
[06:17] <Obsdark> what i'm doing wrong?
[06:17] <Obsdark> my config file https://nopaste.net/LQ4DY5TRBv
[06:18] <Obsdark> i even try to make an anonymous connection but to no avail.
[06:18] <Obsdark> is a test server therefore security is not so much a concern
[06:18] <Obsdark> the ftp program is vsftpd
[06:19] <Intelo> alkisg no. browser is needed because users are developers. they deploy code via vpn / terminal. but they want to run / see app in browser. The app is huge.js file. they need to load in browser very often
[06:19] <Intelo> alkisg lets say you are a reactjs dev,
[06:20] <Intelo> alkisg its complicated to explain here
[06:20] <alkisg> Intelo: then each connection will need 2 GB RAM. For 10 users, that's 20 GB RAM
[06:20] <Intelo> alkisg no, each user will take slice of screen/browser on vps,
[06:20] <Intelo> bankdwidth is not an issue for vps
[06:21] <alkisg> If you want multiple users to connect to a SINGLE session that's a completely different issue
[06:22] <alkisg> Then you don't even have multiple users, it's just one, the one that runs that single session
[06:22] <Intelo> even sessions can be different
[06:23] <Intelo> multi x2go
[06:23] <alkisg> One session = 2 GB. Differnt session = multiple * 2 GB
[06:23] <Intelo> each user comes, connects, lauenches browser, goes away
[06:23] <alkisg> Right, so a single resettable session
[06:23] <Intelo> alkisg are you telling me that one session needs 2g ram in reality?
[06:23] <alkisg> Intelo: sure, if you open a browser in a heavy-javascript page
[06:23] <Intelo> I see.
[06:23] <Intelo> I am doomed
[06:24] <Intelo> anydesk seems the only way :(
[06:24] <Intelo> alkisg all what you said
[06:24] <alkisg> Why, anydesk won't need 2 GB for the browser?
[06:24] <Intelo> alkisg no because if I have to use anydesk, I will do it on my local machine. that has 32 g ram
[06:25] <alkisg> Intelo: and why can't you use xrdp/vnc to your local machine?
[06:25] <Intelo> slow. thats why
[06:25] <Intelo> users can't connect via vnc/x2go/ etc
[06:25] <alkisg> What's your upload speed?
[06:25] <alkisg> Do a speed test and tell me
[06:26] <Intelo> 2mb
[06:26] <Intelo> 2mbps
[06:26] <alkisg> Yeh that won't really work for multiple users even with anydesk. For one user, THEN another user, it might
[06:27] <alkisg> Pay for a better line rather than paying for a vps
[06:27] <Intelo> well on anydesk, it goes fine. I tried
[06:28] <Intelo> with 3 users
[06:28] <Intelo> wait. no
[06:28] <Intelo> actually for one with 5mbps up (server) . 2mbps down (client)
[06:29] <Intelo> alkisg anyway. It  was great talking to you!
[06:30] <Intelo> I will try. Dont'think there is any workaround anydesk $cost
[06:32] <alkisg> Cheers Intelo
[07:05] <gabejackson> hello
[07:05] <gabejackson> i have a serious issue on a server that is about to be used in production
[07:05] <gabejackson> apparently it tried to auto upgrade over night
[07:05] <gabejackson> now almost any command i type, i'm getting /usr/bin/sudo: Input/Output error
[07:06] <gabejackson> seems to be some kind of filesystem issue, but can't see what it tried to do...
[07:06] <gabejackson> i can cd to /var/log and look at some messages, and i see that it tried to auto-upgrade. but it appears to be in a broken state
[07:10] <gabejackson> or maybe some partitions failed to remount?
[07:11] <gabejackson> i have lots of these mounted: /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core20_1623.snap on /snap/core20/1623 type squashfs (ro,nodev,relatime,x-gdu.hide)
[07:12] <gabejackson> this is what i see for the rootfs: /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv on / type ext4 (ro,relatime)
[07:12] <gabejackson> its read only mounted
[07:24] <EriC^^> gabejackson: usually input/output error is related to hardware failure (hdd)
[07:24] <gabejackson> yeah i would like to run fsck on it
[07:24] <gabejackson> but i can't
[07:24] <gabejackson> is there a way to download a fsck binary somehow? i have a tmpfs that seems to be working
[07:25] <gabejackson> wget gives me input/output error, but curl seems to be working. so may be able to download something
[07:25] <gabejackson> i dare not restart to run fsck as i only have remote access currently
[07:25] <EriC^^> ah
[07:26] <EriC^^> can you run 'sudo dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999' ?
[07:26] <EriC^^> it would upload a paste of dmesg's output
[07:26] <gabejackson> yeah i got dmesg output from /var/log/dmesg
[07:26] <gabejackson> one min. thx
[07:26] <EriC^^> gabejackson: really what you want to do is try to install smartmontools somehow and run a smart test on the hdd, to see its health
[07:27] <EriC^^> fsck wont help much if it's a hardware failure (which it sounds like it is based on the input/output error)
[07:28] <gabejackson> https://dpaste.com/9GUPC5QRE
[07:28] <gabejackson> sorry, nc didn't work input/output error
[07:29] <gabejackson> i'm still looking for the read-only mount in dmesg
[07:30] <gabejackson> it may be more of a volume manager issue because of the auto-upgrade / unattended upgrade which shouldn't have run...
[07:31] <EriC^^> what happens if you try to remount rw?
[07:31] <EriC^^> sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[07:32] <gabejackson> i get /usr/bin/sudo: Input/output error
[07:33] <gabejackson> if i run without sudo, i get mount: /: cannot remount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv read-write, is write-protected.
[07:33] <EriC^^> gabejackson: i see in the kernel line there's a "ro" there
[07:33] <EriC^^> Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-5.4.0-125-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv ro
[07:34] <gabejackson> i'm sure its the upgrade that killed it
[07:34] <gabejackson> why would there be an ro there?
[07:34] <EriC^^> hmm, maybe it's something from outside ubuntu, something related to the vm or so?
[07:34] <EriC^^> 'write-protected' seems odd
[07:34] <gabejackson> its just a NUC with ubuntu server on it
[07:36] <gabejackson> can i mount /boot and fix it?
[07:36] <gabejackson> if i do mount /boot it gives me mount: /boot: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/191b470b-16a2-4403-b943-4a70e7e1a32b does not exist.
[07:36] <EriC^^> what's "parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999" give?
[07:37] <gabejackson> input/output error
[07:37] <EriC^^> fdisk -l ?
[07:37] <EriC^^> do you have the root password? maybe "su" still works if sudo is shot
[07:37] <gabejackson> true
[07:38] <gabejackson> i'll try
[07:38] <gabejackson> nah both are shot
[07:38] <gabejackson> is there a way to get binaries and run them them on the tmpfs?
[07:40] <EriC^^> which ubuntu version is this?
[07:41] <gabejackson> Linux gumbi 5.4.0-125-generic #141-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 10 13:42:03 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:41] <EriC^^> cat /etc/issue
[07:41] <gabejackson> Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS
[07:41] <EriC^^> !fdisk focal
[07:42] <EriC^^> !info fdisk focal
[07:42] <EriC^^> gabejackson: this is the fdisk .deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/u/util-linux/fdisk_2.34-0.1ubuntu9.3_amd64.deb
[07:43] <EriC^^> gabejackson: are you able to somehow access grub remotely?
[07:44] <gabejackson> will be difficult
[07:44] <gabejackson> it's a nuc which is accessible, but nobody there knows what to do
[07:44] <gabejackson> and it'll need a hdmi cable and screen or so?
[07:44] <gabejackson> and keyboard
[07:44] <gabejackson> was able to download the de
[07:44] <gabejackson> deb
[07:45] <EriC^^> gabejackson: ok, you could unpack the .deb using dpkg -x /path/to/deb /path/to/fdisk/dir
[07:45] <gabejackson> dpkg seems to be working
[07:45] <gabejackson> let me try.
[07:46] <gabejackson> gah, but dpkg-deb isn't working
[07:47] <EriC^^> gabejackson: i think you'd need to access the server somehow, maybe restart and hope for the best, if it doesnt work then hook up some kind of live usb and assess whether the hdd is still ok, it very much sounds like some hardware failure, missing partitions and input/output error and whatnot
[07:47] <gabejackson> yeah
[07:47] <gabejackson> thanks eric!
[07:48] <EriC^^> ar x /path/to/fdisk.deb  might work to unpack it
[07:48] <EriC^^> np, goodluck!
[08:00] <gabejackson> @EriC^^ isn't it maybe an LVM issue?
[08:00] <gabejackson> ugprade from LVM to LVM2 or similar, thats' why i couldn't activate the VGs correctly or so?
[08:00] <gabejackson> i'm not sure how ubuntu by default deals with volume groups etc
[08:00] <Fish4129> Hi
[08:01] <Fish4129> How do I modify the Lubuntu GUI installer "Encrypt Partition" Encryption settings. It's using AES-128 XTS Plain64 I think. I want to choose a different cipher if possible.
[08:01] <Fish4129> This is a LUKS encryption setup.
[08:04] <gabejackson> is it normal that so many /var/lib/snapd/* things are mounted, or is this part of an upgade process?
[08:05] <gabejackson> can somebody tell me if this "mount" looks normal? https://dpaste.com/HESTV47UE
[08:07] <Fish4129> I mean, does it work?
[08:09] <EriC^^> gabejackson: you could see what was upgraded in /var/log/apt/history.log
[08:13] <gabejackson> seems empty.
[08:16] <EriC^^> odd, maybe /var/log/dpkg.log?
[08:16] <EriC^^> grep installed /var/log/dpkg.log
[08:33] <gabejackson> EriC^^:
[08:33] <gabejackson> i dared to reboot and it magically recovered.......
[08:33] <Fish4129> Hi YES
[08:33] <Fish4129> GOOD
[08:33] <EriC^^> gabejackson: yay
[08:33] <gabejackson> still need to figure out WHAT it was though
[08:34] <EriC^^> gabejackson: try 'sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999'
[09:02] <Intelo> Hi, I install ubuntu -server then installed firefox. so it might be bare xorg/x11. How do I start firefox from terminal?
[09:05] <ravage> Intelo, "firefox"
[09:06] <Intelo> ravage no if I run "firefox" , it says "no display environment variable specified
[09:06] <ravage> then you have to configure your desktop environment correctly
[09:07] <ravage> ubuntu server does not come with one
[09:07] <oerheks> does firefox snap not pull in Xorg/Wayland?
[09:08] <ravage> i dont think snaps install any deb packages
[09:08] <oerheks> oke, logical.
[09:09] <oerheks> one could setup a xvfb virtual framebuffer
[09:10] <gabejackson> EriC^^: https://termbin.com/8n59
[09:11] <Intelo> oerheks ravage don't I just need `export DISPLAY=pcNameHere:0.0`
[09:11] <ravage> if you have Xorg running you can do that
[09:12] <Intelo> ravage oerheks what is the good way?
[09:12] <oerheks> why do you want firefox on your server?
[09:12] <Intelo> oerheks because that is the  only thing I need
[09:13] <Intelo> want to keep it minimalistic
[09:13] <Intelo> don't  want desktop env
[09:13] <oerheks> !info xvfb
[09:13] <Intelo> so sudo apt install xvfb?
[09:13] <Intelo> and then?
[09:14] <Intelo> oerheks ^
[09:15] <Intelo> ravage or do I need 'xinit' and then startx?
[09:15] <oerheks> xvfb-run firefox http://something .. but you will get no sreen, you need xorg for that
[09:15] <Intelo> I need screen
[09:15] <Intelo> the real firefox
[09:15] <Intelo> oerheks so I should now install xorg ?
[09:16] <ravage> the install something like xubuntu
[09:16] <ravage> *then
[09:16] <ravage> it does not use a lot of ressources
[09:16] <Intelo> ravage no. its xfce and many gui apps..
[09:17] <oerheks> good luck, not installing xorg
[09:17] <Intelo> Do I need  `apt install xorg`  or `apt install xinit`?
[09:17] <Intelo> oerheks I didnt said I dont want xorg... did I?
[09:18] <EriC^^> gabejackson: looks ok
[09:19] <ravage> Intelo, you can install xserver-xorg
[09:22] <Intelo> ravage difference between xorg and xserver-org and xinit?
[09:23] <Intelo> ravage difference between xorg and xserver-org *
[09:23] <Intelo> I understand xinit now but whats the diff of above ^
[09:24] <Intelo> am I disconnected?
[09:28] <Habbie> Intelo, you are not disconnected
Intelo: as I said, you use xrdp or x2go; these create the virtual screens for you
[09:29] <oerheks> some few hours ago..
[09:30] <gabejackson> EriC^^: btw, looking at the current dmesg, the ro flag is still in the initial BOOT_IMAGE command. guess that's normal for the boot partition where the kernel is located
[09:30] <Intelo> oerheks forget that message. that is another question.....
[09:30] <gabejackson> gets remounted later in the dmesg: [    5.000321] systemd[1]: Starting Remount Root and Kernel File Systems...
[09:30] <EriC^^> i see
[09:33] <alkisg> Intelo: install ubuntu-mate or xfce or whatever normally. Then create /usr/local/bin/mate-session that will override /usr/bin/mate-session. In in, run: marco & firefox
[09:33] <alkisg> Intelo: this will be your minimal DE, with minimal effort. You don't need to reinvent the wheel
[09:34] <alkisg> You will still need 2 GB per session though, as the problem is in firefox, NOT in the desktop environment
[09:34] <alkisg> If you install a 32bit system (e.g. debian), then you can get that down to 1.5 GB per session. The DE doesn't matter.
[09:39] <Intelo> alkisg what you said is understood! but what if I want to make it even more minimalistic and only have xorg?
[09:40] <alkisg> Intelo: then you'll save 1 GB *disk* space (not RAM), is that important to you?
[09:40] <Intelo> for 20 virtual machines, + updates, yes maybe
[09:40] <Intelo> and ram also...
[09:40] <Intelo> xfce's ram != xorg ram alone
[09:40] <alkisg> No, RAM won't be affected, it will be the same
[09:41] <alkisg> Since the DE won't run with that minimal mate-session
[09:41] <Intelo> are you sure? xorg bare and xfce take same rame/
[09:41] <alkisg> Yes I'm sure
[09:41] <Intelo> ok..
[09:41] <alkisg> If you want to 1 GB save disk space, sure, install plain xorg and something like nodm
[09:42] <alkisg> And create an .xsessionrc instead of a mate-session script
[09:42] <Intelo> how to run firefox from command line then (if not mate-session)
[09:44] <alkisg> You need a window manager like marco or openbox, and firefox
[09:44] <alkisg> You can run them from wherever you like, `marco & firefox` would be the command for these two
[09:46] <alkisg> Note the you'll be missing some things like keyring, authentication managers and portals, if these annoy your users you can just install mate/xfce then, with the same ram :)
[09:48] <oerheks> Or just install a VM with a desktop..
[09:49] <Intelo> in that case, lxde would be the most light weight?
[09:51] <Intelo> alkisg I just installed marco and I have a gui now
[09:54] <Intelo> Is LXDE / lubuntu the lightmost weight Desktop env?
[09:54] <alkisg> When you use a session override, they are all the same
[09:55] <alkisg> (the mate-session script I said)
[09:55] <alkisg> If you don't use a session override, then it's lubuntu < xfce, mate, kde < gnome
[09:55] <Intelo> oh, gnome is even heavier than kde?
[09:58] <alkisg> Yes
[09:59] <alkisg> But all the DE savings are negligible when you end up opening a browser. That's what wastes RAM.
[10:14] <Intelo> alkisg ya, browsers are very heavy these days
[10:15] <oerheks> firefox is a dragon.. that is why i use chome
[10:15] <Intelo> :)
[10:17] <gabejackson> anybody see what happened here shortly before the root filesystem became read only ?
[10:17] <gabejackson> https://dpaste.com/8WZRR8P93
[10:19] <oerheks> gabejackson, no?
[10:20] <gabejackson> what is this snapd stuff anyway?
[10:20] <oerheks> !snap
[10:20] <oerheks> and snapd is the deamon to control/update/start them
[10:22] <Intelo> alkisg also, lxde vs lxqt?
[10:25] <oerheks> " Lubuntu moved to the LXQt desktop with the release of Lubuntu 18.10 in October 2018, due to the slow development of LXDE.."
[10:25] <oerheks> also no gnome dependencies..
[10:31] <gabejackson> thx oerheks
[10:31] <Payam> Hi
[10:32] <Payam> My ubuntu 20 randomly goes to reboot
[10:32] <stewmu> I keep reading conspiracy theories that canonical is going to 100% replace all deb packages with snap. Is there any truth to that?
[10:32] <Payam> or logs out
[10:33] <Payam> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cMZjKmvcJF/
[10:33] <Payam> here is syslog
[10:35] <stewmu> Speaking of xebian, why is it that live-build no longer works with jammy?
[10:39] <oerheks> stewmu, short answer; no.
[10:39] <oerheks> and xebian, what is that?
[10:39] <oerheks> not an ubuntu flavor.
[10:40] <stewmu> Unit193 posted xebian, debian sid with xfce. Don't know why he posted it here, must have made a mistake.
[10:40] <oerheks> stew wrong channel, try #debian
[10:41] <Payam> anyone knows solution to my problem
[10:41] <oerheks> Payam, random reboot, check your powersupply and memory, memtest86
[10:41] <Intelo> How come lubuntu latest lts version is 16.04.3 LTS  and ubuntu LTS is on 22.x ? ref https://lubuntu.net/downloads/
[10:42] <stewmu> That's the old lubuntu website. Here is the new one. https://lubuntu.me/
[10:42] <Unit193> stewmu: Nope, I sent that link only to you, as an example of a live-build auto/config file with options.
[10:42] <oerheks> lubuntu.net is not official.
[10:42] <oerheks> it is hijacked by an user.
[10:43] <oerheks> lubuntu.me is our official site
[10:43] <stewmu> Okay, I didn't know the message was directed to me only, so I thought oerheks saw it as well.
[10:43] <Payam> oerheks, I have done all those
[10:43] <Payam> Everything is as it should be
[10:43] <Intelo> they shoudl be on same version
[10:44] <wraith> Hello everyone. I am setting up Ubuntu Server 22.04 and I can not communicate with ssh-agent. What do I do wrong?
[10:46] <oerheks> Payam, no idea, i see line 10775 HP HP ZBook 15 G6/860F, BIOS R92 Ver. 01.04.05 02/24/2020  ,, is there a bios update available?
[10:46] <stewmu> Will gnome web 43 be backported for 22.04? I really want the enhancements epiphany will provide with the new version.
[10:48] <ogra> stewmu, snap info epiphany ... that will likely get updated to 43 eventually
[10:48] <oerheks> gnome web 43 might not be backported to LTS.
[10:48] <ogra> yeah, most likely not as a deb
[10:48] <stewmu> Okay, either snap or flatpak it is then.
[10:50] <Intelo> nevermind, site is not updated
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:14] <munsking> Hello, how can i make a live iso boot an option by default? i have already extracted the iso but i don't know what file to edit
[12:17] <oerheks>   munsking basickly not, afaik
[12:19] <munsking> so i can't get ubuntu to use a preseed from the network?
[12:20] <oerheks> Preceeding has been deprecated since 20.04 and was removed in 22.04. Ubuntu is now using autoinstall, see https://serverfault.com/a/1108327
[12:21] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/autoinstall
[12:22] <ogra> munsking, https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/automated-server-install-quickstart/16614
[12:22]  * oerheks bookmarks
[12:23] <ogra> i think one is linked from the other anyway 🙂
[12:23] <munsking> thanks
[12:37] <xyzluki> Hi
[12:38] <xyzluki> Will I get some help here or it is wrong channel ?
[12:38] <oerheks> hy xyzluki , ask wait and see
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> (if its ubuntu related)
[12:38] <xyzluki> oki, thanks.
[12:39] <xyzluki> my ubuntu 20.04 LTS failed on apt-get update command. I don' know why
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> xyzluki: can you share the errors apt gives you in a !paste bin?
[12:40] <xyzluki> Hit:1 https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease
[12:40] <xyzluki> Err:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal InRelease
[12:40] <xyzluki>   Could not connect to kazooie.canonical.com:80 (91.189.91.39). - connect (111: Connection refused) Could not connect to banjo.canonical.com:80 (91.189.91.38). - connect (111: Connection refused) Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:http:
[12:40] <xyzluki> Err:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates InRelease
[12:40] <xyzluki>   Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:http:
[12:40] <xyzluki> Err:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-backports InRelease
[12:41] <oerheks> !paste
[12:43] <oerheks> kazooie.canonical.com banjo.canonical.com seem to be old  ?
[12:43] <xyzluki> here is the corrected content for error which I got: https://dpaste.com/FMHHNP659
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> maybe a case to report to the mirror guys?
[12:46] <xyzluki> strange thing is also that I can't access http://archive.ubuntu.com from my web browser
[12:46] <xyzluki> but this link from web browser works: https://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> xyzluki: can you join #ubuntu-mirrors please and paste your link there, lets see what the mirror guys will advice
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> xyzluki: to join a channel, type /join #ubuntu-mirrors for your case
[12:50] <xyzluki>  /join #ubuntu-mirrors
[12:50] <xyzluki> oki it works :)
[13:06] <plujon> I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, but I want to use Ruby 2.7.6; is there an easy way to install the older Ruby, preferably without using rvm?
[13:08] <gordonjcp> plujon: look for a backport, or run it in a docker container
[13:08] <plujon> What does, "look for a backport" mean?
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> !backports
[13:13] <plujon> Also, when I upgraded from 20.04 LTS to 22.04 LTS, I was prompted several times to choose either my current /etc/something file or to use the new version.  I chose to retain most of my changes, but I'd like to see the difference between the latest maintainer versions and mine now that I can use tools such as "ediff" to view the differences.  Is that easy to do?
[13:13] <plujon> And thanks; I'll read about backports meanwhile.
[13:17] <oerheks> plujon, easiest way is to read the changelogs.
[13:20] <plujon> oerheks: The easiest way is to find out how my /etc differs from the default for my release is to ... read changelogs?
[13:20] <gordonjcp> you get the option to see the differences when you upgrade
[13:20] <gordonjcp> I've never actually done this
[13:20] <gordonjcp> I've never upgraded from one version of Ubuntu to another
[13:20] <gordonjcp> disks are basically free
[13:21] <oerheks> i have never seen such question to keep old stuff
[13:21] <gordonjcp> by the time the next LTS comes around, you can get a much larger SSD for less than the cost of your old SSD
[13:21] <gordonjcp> so, going back about 20 years or so I've always just downloaded a new distro (even back in my Slackware days), and bought a new drive to install it on, and put the old one in a box to keep it safe in case I need stuff off it
[13:22] <gordonjcp> but, -ot
[13:22] <oerheks> plujon, yes, what is wrong reading changelogs?
[13:22] <plujon> Arch Linux leaves .pacnew files sprinkled around /etc after upgrading.
[13:22] <plujon> oerheks: What do you mean by changelogs?  How long do you think it would take?
[13:23] <oerheks> oh, blame me ..
[13:24] <plujon> Those questions aren't meant to be rhetorical.
[13:24] <plujon> I literally don't know what you mean by changelogs, nor how long you think it would take to read through them.
[13:25] <plujon> If you mean Changelog files written by the Debian team (as opposed to some kind of log of changes made while upgrading), that sounds like it would take quite awhile, and also be useless because differences in files such as /etc/ssh/sshd_config are not likely going to be exhaustively described in a Changelog.
[13:27] <plujon> But it sounds like you've answered my question: Debian does not have something akin to "pacnew" files, and if I said, "keep" while upgrading, there is no easy way to see what I would have gotten had I said, "use the new maintainer's version".
[13:27] <oerheks> there is a summary for 22.04 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-point-release-changes/29835
[13:30] <plujon> Ah, thanks.  Unfortunately, that changelog won't help me.
[13:32] <tomreyn> plujon: usually, you'll find similarily named configuration files in /etc similarily as you described for arch linux
[13:32] <tomreyn> and you can just run diff on them
[13:33] <tomreyn> for example, /etc/ssh/sshd_config{,.dpkg-new} is what i'd expect to see if you had retained your local changes to the sshd configuration
[13:34] <plujon> tomreyn: Oh, thanks.  That is the answer to my question...
[13:34] <plujon> find /etc -iname '*dpkg-dist'
[13:41] <plujon> As for backports, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports does not describe, AFAICT, how to find them.  I'm looking for ruby 2.7.6 on 22.04 LTS...
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> plujon: you could also consider ruby snap
[13:48] <nasum> how do i install smartctl part of smartmontools package in the latest ubuntu iso?
[13:48] <nasum> i tried apt-get install smartmontools but it doesnt find the pkg
[13:48] <tomreyn> plujon: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jammy-backports/ then look in the section subdirectory (which the package belonds to), then binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[13:48] <tomreyn> nasum: did you run sudo apt update   first?
[13:49] <tomreyn> !info smartmontools
[13:49] <tomreyn> it does exist
[13:51] <p3lim> is this the right place to ask about autoinstall stuff? I want to prompt for a hostname only, and I've set a default one + user/pw, but when the section shows up the password fields are empty
[13:52] <nasum> tomreyn: now it works
[13:53] <nasum> what pkg is chkdisk in?
[13:53] <nasum> i am trying to recover some files from an ntfs partition, it is looking like a hardware failure since input/output error appear
[13:53] <nasum> eventually replace windows with ubuntu
[13:54] <sraboni> hi
[14:04] <p3lim> it's a bug, which hasn't been updated in over 2 years :/ https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/1883180
[14:05] <p3lim> is it then possible to run a custom prompt before subiquity starts?
[14:06] <tomreyn> nasum: there is no chkdsk on linux. there is ntfsfix in package "ntfs-3g". read its manpage to understand its limitations.
[14:11] <tomreyn> p3lim: there'S also #ubuntu-server, which may be a better place (if you have a lot of patience)
[14:12] <tomreyn> p3lim: have you considered setting hostnames via dhcp?
[14:25] <tomreyn> plujon: looking at your original question, you seem to be looking for *forward* ported ruby 2.7.6 to jammy (22.04 LTS) - which comes with 3.0. If at all, you'll likely find such in a PPA.
[14:25] <tomreyn> !ppa
[14:26] <xon> is there any way to find the log of the command; I had run the python script on ubuntu yesterday then the session was disconnect to remote. now I wanna check what happened after that?
[14:27] <tomreyn> xon: unless you ran it in a GNU screen or tmux session or redirected its output to a file or used nohup, no.
[14:29] <tomreyn> that's unless that shell is still active, in which case you could possibly 'steal' the tty. but it most likely won't be active anymore, unless the application is still running, waiting for input
[14:34] <xon> tomreyn: thank you so much for you help!!
[14:36] <tomreyn> you're welcome, xon
[14:38] <tomreyn> xon: i drop private messages by default. if you have non support questions, there's #ubuntu-offtopic also
[14:39] <p3lim> tomreyn: dhcp is not an option, but I found this: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/automated-server-install-reference/16613/21
[14:39] <p3lim> and it worked!
[14:45] <xon> tomreyn: I sent DM, please check if you got time for it
[14:47] <tatsumaru> hey guys, is the deblobbed version of visual studio aka Code OSS available for ubuntu?
[14:50] <samba35> why snap (vlc ) use lot of cpu ? how do i fix it ?
[14:52] <rs2009> tatsumaru: yep, you can use the codium snap
[14:54] <ioria> samba35, probably hw accel related
[14:55] <tomreyn> p3lim: maybe link tot this in the bug report as a workaround for others.
[14:56] <tomreyn> (if it works)
[14:58] <tomreyn> tatsumaru: you seem to be looking for a third party providing pre-built "vscodium" packages
[14:58] <tatsumaru> where did I say third party?
[14:59] <tatsumaru> I was wondering if it was available in the official ubuntu repos
[14:59] <tomreyn> tatsumaru: i don't think so., that's why.
[15:00] <tomreyn> i think microsoft only provides pre-built packages for vscode
[15:01] <samba35> its i5 16 gb ram
[15:01] <tomreyn> tatsumaru: ...which are available as a .deb download as well as a snap https://snapcraft.io/code
[15:01] <samba35> any extenstions ?
[15:01] <samba35> or gpu ?
[15:01] <samba35> nvidia 710 card
[15:01] <ioria> tatsumaru, do you want codium in deb format ? or what ?
[15:02] <tomreyn> samba35: which ubuntu version are you running? are you using nvidia proprietary drivers?
[15:02] <samba35> 20 lts
[15:02] <tomreyn> samba35: you probably mean 20.04 LTS
[15:02] <samba35> no from ubuntu
[15:02] <samba35> yes
[15:03] <tomreyn> samba35: which of your responses was to the "are you using nvidia proprietary drivers?" question, if any?
[15:04] <samba35> no i using drivers from ubuntu
[15:04] <samba35> not from web site
[15:04] <tomreyn> good, but this wasn't my question. ubuntu provides both proprietary and open source drivers for nvidia graphics card.
[15:04] <tomreyn> which one are you using? "nvidia" or "nouveau"?
[15:05] <samba35> Kernel driver in use: nvidia
[15:05] <samba35> 	Kernel modules: nvidiafb, nouveau, nvidia_drm, nvidia
[15:06] <samba35> so which driver i am using ?
[15:06] <tomreyn> samba35: the ones that's in use
[15:06] <tomreyn> "nvidia", the proprietary one.
[15:06] <samba35> ic
[15:07] <tomreyn> is your graphics card icy?
[15:07] <samba35> so should i change it ?
[15:07] <tomreyn> it's probably fine to use the proprietary drivers
[15:08] <tomreyn> therre are different series of it, sometimes it helps to switch between those. but before you try such, maybe just run vlc from a terminal and see what warnings and errors it outputs
[15:08] <tomreyn> one common issue is using vdpau drivers which may not always work well
[15:09] <tomreyn> ...for video decoding / playback
[15:09] <oerheks> i use mpv, much smaller cpu use, but it differs on the type of media.
[15:09] <samba35> wait
[15:10] <tomreyn> tatsumaru: did you find anything, yet?
[15:11] <tomreyn> tatsumaru: There is "Debian / Ubuntu (deb package)" and "Install with snap (Linux)" on https://vscodium.com/#install
[15:11] <samba35> sorry i had a guesdt
[15:12] <samba35> guest
[15:12] <tomreyn> tatsumaru: (also a flatpak)
[15:12] <samba35> what do u mean by icy ?
[15:14] <ogra> samba35, if you use nvidia, make sure to pick the vdpau decoder in the codec settings ... that should give you HW accel
[15:15] <samba35> ok
[15:15] <samba35> do i have to install package for vdpau ?
[15:16] <samba35> or its in setting ?
[15:16] <ogra> it should be in the vlc settings if your host has the nvidia driver installed
[15:16] <samba35> ok
[15:19] <samba35> in vlc fast seek check or uncheck ?
[15:20] <samba35> video quality post processing level is 6 is it ok ?
[15:21] <samba35> no vdpau setting did not help
[15:29] <p3lim> new issue with autoinstall: setting apt.geoip to false doesn't do anything, it still queries that API and if it doesn't get a response (we've not opened it in our proxy) the whole installer fails :/
[15:30] <spidermonkey> Hello everyone! I've got a question concerning the right way to approach maintainers. If there is a problem in a universe package that is probably due to a simple build configuration mistake, and is described in two bug reports for months now without any response, what do I do?
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> spidermonkey: your bug ID please?
[15:34] <spidermonkey> It wasn't me who has submitted the bug reports, but I can confirm 1974163 and 1960137 are reproducible in Ubuntu 22.04 on my machine and have even more consequences than mentioned in the reports
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> bug #1974163
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> bug #1960137
[15:35] <spidermonkey> Thanks I didn't now that command
[15:36] <spidermonkey> MKV handling is broken apparently in every part of the program, so I suspect whatever library is used to support this has been excluded by a build config command
[15:37] <spidermonkey> Or maybe a dependency is not mentioned in the apt package that would be needed for this
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> spidermonkey: if these bugs affect you and you got a launchpad account, please also affect them wich will confirm the bugs with more chance of getting solved
[15:38] <spidermonkey> I don't currently have an account but if you think one more person helps already I can do this
[15:38] <oerheks> linphone site says install mediastreamer2 https://www.linphone.org/technical-corner/mediastreamer2
[15:39] <spidermonkey> libmediastreamer11 has been installed as a dependency of linphone-desktop
[15:41] <oerheks> then add yourself to that/those bugreports?
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> spidermonkey: did earlier ubuntu releases record the calls properly?
[15:42] <spidermonkey> I'm afraid I only know that Ubuntu 18.04, which did not use MKV but WAV, worked fine, and in Debian Bullseye it does work (using MKV)
[15:43] <spidermonkey> What I mean is that in Ubuntu 18.04 the packaged version was so old that MKV support wasn't even introduced yet
[15:43] <spidermonkey> And as far as I know, this never was something to be configured – old versions would record as WAV and new versions record an Opus MKV
[15:43] <meandrain> I have a path added to $PATH shell variable, but it is not working. Any idea why? Echoing $PATH show the path I added
[15:44] <meandrain> the path is added to ~/.bash_profile
[15:45] <meandrain> Ok so I fixed the problem, it did not liked a trailing / at the end of first path
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> spidermonkey: linphone seems to have a mailinglist for bugs questions too, maybe you can find the maintainer quicker this way, https://www.linphone.org/contact
[15:48] <spidermonkey> Oh I have to correct myself
[15:49] <spidermonkey> I used the AppImage on Debian so I didn't notice if there was this bug in the packaged version
[15:49] <spidermonkey> And apparently there is a similar bug report for Debian, which has just been fixed https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=979044
[15:51] <spidermonkey> Will this somehow land in Ubuntu universe if it has been fixed in Debian?
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> september, 4 that looks good spidermonkey
[15:51] <oerheks> spidermonkey, why don' t you ask this in debian?
[15:53] <spidermonkey> Sorry if I have offended you, this was a question about how Ubuntu is adapting packages from Debian. Because I don't know much about the packaging process, but I gather at some point Ubuntu uses Debian as a base?
[15:53] <oerheks> i thought universe is the same for debian and ubuntu?
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> the #ubuntu-release crew might know that
[15:54] <Intelo> when I install lubuntu on vbox, I see blinking cursor at top left corner. what should I do. Not going ahead
[15:56] <spidermonkey> lotuspsychje: Then I'll ask there, thanks
[16:03] <Intelo> solved with increase cpu count and ram
[16:13] <mncheck> focal, something is creating br-hexadecimalnumbers named bridge interfaces on boot. how do you find out what creates them?
[16:14] <mncheck> it creates only one interface per boot
[16:26] <jhutchins> mncheck: It's either a container system or a snap/flatpak system that's creating them.
[16:26] <nasum> how do i install ddrescue?
[16:26] <nasum> apt-get install ddrescue doesnt work
[16:26] <nasum> neither gddrescue ,, is it outdated or renamed?
[16:27] <nasum> i updated
[16:27] <enigma9o7[m]> sudo apt install gddrescue
[16:27] <nasum> update to locate package gddrescue
[16:27] <nasum> unable to locate *
[16:28] <jhutchins> !ddrescue
[16:28] <jhutchins> !info ddrescue
[16:28] <jhutchins> nasum: I think you're dealing with a non-Ubuntu utility.
[16:28] <jhutchins> !photorec
[16:29] <jhutchins> nasum: Both of these have whole web sited dedicated to them and both need more guidance than click-to-install.
[16:29] <nasum> the default install comamnds did not work , that is my problem
[16:29] <enigma9o7[m]> !info gddrescue
[16:30] <nasum> ddrescue is gnu btw
[16:30] <nasum> it should be in the default repository
[16:30] <enigma9o7[m]> do you have universe enabled nasum?
[16:31] <enigma9o7[m]> It is in universe, as i can see from apt policy.
[16:31] <jhutchins> nasum: No, that's not how it works.
[16:33] <jhutchins> It has been in Universe in past releases, should be in jammy but the bot doesn't know about it.
[16:33] <oerheks> ddrescue  Provided by: gddrescue_1.23-2build1_amd64 bughttps://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jammy/man1/ddrescue.1.html
[16:34] <enigma9o7[m]> The bot knows about it!  It just said so!
[16:34] <jhutchins> enigma9o7[m]: 2:1 he's running Kinetic
[16:34] <enigma9o7[m]> !info gddrescue
[16:34] <enigma9o7[m]> its in kinetic too
[16:34] <jhutchins> enigma9o7[m]: I must have typoed something then.
[16:35] <enigma9o7[m]> Candidate: 1.26-2  on kinettic
[16:35] <nasum> im running jellyfish
[16:35] <jhutchins> enigma9o7[m]: Ok, obviously not enough coffee.  /ignor *me.
[16:35] <nasum> uuntu 5.15.0-43-generic x86_64
[16:36] <enigma9o7[m]> nasum, enable universe and should work.  `sudo apt edit-sources`
[16:36] <enigma9o7[m]> then `sudo apt update` after adding universe
[16:36] <nasum> idk how to edit it with nano
[16:37] <enigma9o7[m]> nano is pretty much WYSIWYG
[16:37] <enigma9o7[m]> you can figure it out
[16:37] <enigma9o7[m]> control-x to save and exit
[16:37] <nasum> the editor is not the problem its the file
[16:37] <nasum> there are lines like : deb http://link jammy-something main restricted
[16:37] <nasum> so i don't know how to edit it with the command line
[16:38] <enigma9o7[m]> yeah on the plane jammy one, after main and restircted, add universe
[16:38] <oerheks> just enable it in software updates settings?
[16:38] <nasum> idk how can you tell me how?
[16:38] <nasum> there are 3 jammy lines
[16:38] <nasum> jammy main restricted, jammy-security main restricted and jammy-updates main restricted
[16:38] <nasum> each with its own url
[16:38] <enigma9o7[m]> the maiin jammy one
[16:39] <oerheks> sudo add-apt-repository universe   // sudo add-apt-repository multiverse
[16:39] <enigma9o7[m]> not security or updates
[16:39] <enigma9o7[m]> but those cant hurt either
[16:39] <enigma9o7[m]> do em all
[16:39] <mncheck> jhutchins, thanks
[16:39] <nasum> idk what to do
[16:39] <nasum> add a whole new line?
[16:39] <enigma9o7[m]> no just add those words
[16:39] <nasum> add universe at the end of each line?
[16:39] <jhutchins> Isn't there a GUI interface to manage repos?
[16:39] <enigma9o7[m]> change "main restricted" to "main restricted universe multiverse"
[16:39] <enigma9o7[m]> yeah
[16:39] <enigma9o7[m]> and throw in multiverse if you want
[16:39] <enigma9o7[m]> cant remember what it is tho
[16:40] <jhutchins> !multiverse
[16:40] <mncheck> jhutchins, in /etc/docker/daemon.json I have "bip" and "default-address-pools" ... "base" keys set to different prefixes than my br-...
[16:40] <nasum> i have gddrescue now
[16:41] <nasum> but gddrescue-gui isnt found even after adding the hashim repo
[16:41] <mncheck> jhutchins, I have snap, I don't think I have flatpak
[16:42] <oerheks> hashim repo?
[16:43] <nasum> the repo in which gui ddrescue is found in
[16:51] <enigma9o7[m]> as far as i can tell, the repo is for getdevinfo
[16:52] <enigma9o7[m]> to install the gui you do it from the deb file
[16:53] <enigma9o7[m]> if you try to install the deb file without adding the ppa first, you'll get "ddrescue-gui : Depends: python3-getdevinfo but it is not installable"
[17:03] <Guest48> Hey all, dealing with a persistent wifi stops working after a few hours problem. This happens multiple times per day. Wondering if anyone had pointers on how to diagnose/fix. Wifi icon shows "?" icon after a few hours. Pings to dns fail. dmesg always shows a message like: "AP has invalid WMM params (AIFSN=1 for ACI 2), will use 2". Turning wifi
[17:03] <Guest48> off/on or switching to another wifi network resolves (for a while).
[17:13] <tomreyn> Guest48: hi. which ubuntu version are you running,if you know?
[17:14] <tomreyn> also, which wireless chipset is this, and which driver is in use (if you can tell)?
[17:20] <destino> hi
[17:21] <destino> hey
[17:22] <enigma9o7[m]> hey
[17:22] <enigma9o7[m]> ho
[17:27] <philipp64> Hi. I just updated from 20 LTS to 22 LTS and now I'm having certificate trust store issues with wget, etc. Did I miss a step?
[17:28] <tomreyn> philipp64: those releases are actually called 20.04 LTS and 22.04 LTS.
[17:29] <philipp64> they're always in April, right?
[17:29] <tomreyn> philipp64: do you see an error message? are all updates installed?
[17:29] <philipp64> from what I can tell, the install went swimmingly.
[17:29] <maxim> wow
[17:29] <maxim> chat
[17:30] <tomreyn> !yy.mm | philipp64: yes
[17:30] <philipp64> is there a command to verify that all of the packages were installed correctly?
[17:30] <enigma9o7[m]> I prefer calling them 18, 20, 22 LTS.  That's good enough.  Everyone knows what you means, but it annoys perfectionist jerks who like to an noy people for no good reason when they know exactly what they mean already.
[17:30] <tomreyn> maxim: hi. do you have an ubuntu support question?
[17:30] <maxim> no
[17:31] <tomreyn> enigma9o7[m]: please mind the language on this channel, thanks.
[17:31] <tomreyn> philipp64: you can just attempt to install all the pending updates
[17:32] <tomreyn> philipp64: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade    should run without printing any warnings or errors
[17:33] <tomreyn> philipp64: and    apt list --installed | grep ',local\]$'   should only list packages you intentionally have manually downloaded and installed as .deb packages, and know are compatible (and not outdated/a security risk)
[17:33] <philipp64> since the issue is in user-space, no reboot will be necessary?
[17:34] <Intelo> I used firefox, chromium on a lubuntu virtubalbox. The browser crashes (display message, something went wrong). This happens for both browsers after visiting 8 or 10 pages of the same website. Does it most probably has to do with ram, cpu, disk or something else?
[17:35] <tomreyn> philipp64: none of these commands require a reboot. if you're missing out on packages which require a reboot to make the update apply, such as kernel updates, you would be asked to reboot.
[17:36] <tomreyn> Intelo: what do your logs say about it?
[17:36] <philipp64> tomreyn: no joy: https://paste.centos.org/view/0d220a27
[17:38] <tomreyn> philipp64: looks like you have packages which were built for ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04 on there
[17:38] <tomreyn> is this what you want?
[17:40] <Guest48> Re: Wifi dropout question: Ubuntu 22.04, Dual Band Wireless-AC 3168NGW [Stone Peak],
[17:40] <Guest48> 05:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Dual Band Wireless-AC 3168NGW [Stone Peak] [8086:24fb] (rev 10)
[17:40] <Guest48>         Subsystem: Intel Corporation Dual Band Wireless-AC 3168NGW [Stone Peak] [8086:2110]
[17:40] <Guest48>         Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi
[17:40] <Guest48>         Kernel modules: iwlwifi
[17:40] <tomreyn> !paste | Guest48
[17:40] <Guest48> !paste 05:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Dual Band Wireless-AC 3168NGW [Stone Peak] [8086:24fb] (rev 10)
[17:40] <Guest48>         Subsystem: Intel Corporation Dual Band Wireless-AC 3168NGW [Stone Peak] [8086:2110]
[17:40] <Guest48>         Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi
[17:40] <Guest48>         Kernel modules: iwlwifi
[17:41] <tomreyn> Guest48: please stop pasting into the channel, read ubottu's message
[17:41] <Guest48> https://dpaste.com/F62MNGS4M
[17:41] <philipp64> tomreyn: it's a shared development host, so any number of people could have installed thiose... I'll try deleting them.
[17:42] <tomreyn> philipp64: you should probably   sudo apt purge <package1> <package2> ...
[17:43] <tomreyn> philipp64: this would also remove -supposedly - outdated configuration files.
[17:44] <tomreyn> Guest48: what's the output of    cat /proc/version   ? should be just a single line, which is fine to paste directly
[17:45] <Guest48> Linux version 5.15.0-47-generic (buildd@lcy02-amd64-060) (gcc (Ubuntu 11.2.0-19ubuntu1) 11.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Ubuntu) 2.38) #51-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 11 07:51:15 UTC 2022
[17:45] <philipp64> tomreyn: okay, purged...
[17:46] <tomreyn> philipp64: now run  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade again
[17:48] <tomreyn> Guest48: hmm, i can't find anything on the combination of this wireless chipset and the error message you posted. so i'm inclined to assume the issue is really with the access point / router.
[17:49] <Guest48> Yeah, I'm skeptical since none of my other devices exhibit this, but I suppose it's possible.
[17:50] <tomreyn> Guest48: are you using a non-default wireless software stack or configurations by chance?
[17:50] <Guest48> Not as far as I know. I did a fresh 22.04 install a couple months ago.
[17:51] <tomreyn> so you're not using intel igd for example? or a wireless driver downloaded from intel.com? you would know if so.
[17:53] <oerheks> reboot of your router could fix mystery drops of connections
[17:54] <tomreyn> possibly a firmware upgrade, too
[17:54] <oerheks> +1
[17:55] <oerheks> check for firmware router and your machine
[17:56] <philipp64> tomreyn: okay, did all that... no joy with the `wget` command.  what's odd, though, is that `curl` fetches the file just fine... so it seems to be local to `wget`.
[17:58] <oerheks> philipp64, when i run;  wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/asterisk/third-party/master/pjproject/2.12.1/pjproject-2.12.1.tar.bz2
[17:58] <Guest48> Not using intel igd, router has been rebooted, problem has existed for months (I forget if it also happened on 18.04 too)
[17:58] <Guest48> (router has been power cycled multiple times over the last couple months)
[17:58] <Guest48> Will look in to firmware upgrades though.
[17:58] <Guest48> Thanks for the pointers.
[17:58] <oerheks> it works fine.. but you want to store it in /tmp ?? you must be root for that
[17:58] <philipp64> oerheks: yes?
[17:58] <tomreyn> philipp64: you could    apt-get -o DPkg::options::=--force-confmiss --reinstall install wget ca-certificates
[17:59] <philipp64> No, root is a sticky directory so anyone can create files there...
[18:00] <philipp64> err... /tmp is sticky, rather.
[18:01] <oerheks> oh indeed.
[18:02] <tomreyn> philipp64: it's also possible that you chose a custom configuration for ca-certificates, i.e. you manually selected CA certificates you want to (not) trust, instead of trusting the entire set.
[18:02] <tomreyn> ("sudo dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates" would let you do such, i think)
[18:03] <philipp64> tomreyn: I don't remember ever tweaking the cert store... but wouldn't that have affected 20.04 LTS in the same way as 22.04 LTS? why would it now start manifesting issues?
[18:04] <philipp64> doing a "dpkg -L curl" and "dpkg -L wget" I see that neither has a lot of configuration state, and certainly no additional lookaside cert stores... so both would be using the system store.
[18:04] <philipp64> odd that curl works and wget doesn't.
[18:05] <oerheks> philipp64, does this work?;  wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/asterisk/third-party/master/pjproject/2.12.1/pjproject-2.12.1.tar.bz2
[18:05] <oerheks> you should get the same error
[18:08] <tomreyn> philipp64: if you had previously chosen to manually select, and thus opt into new CAs, this could have this result.
[18:08] <philipp64> it doesn't work, no. same result.
[18:08] <tomreyn> philipp64: but it is just one possible cause, there can be others, such as outdated configurations for these packages (and maybe others)
[18:09] <tomreyn> philipp64: so all updates are installed, and there is no need to reboot to apply any?
[18:10] <tomreyn> do you have anything but a "mozilla" subdirectory in /usr/share/ca-certificates/ ?
[18:10] <tomreyn> or anything in /usr/local/share/ca-certificates/ ?
[18:17] <philipp64> just mozilla and /local is empty...
[18:17] <Guest97> how does this work
[18:18] <sarnold> people type, wait a bit, someone replies :)
[18:18] <Guest97> no id?
[18:19] <Guest97> anyone can do anythin?
[18:19] <Guest97> that's new
[18:19] <Windy> lol, IRC -> new
[18:19] <Guest97> so if i log back in do i get same id?
[18:20] <leftyfb> Guest97: feel free to /join #libera   to ask questions about IRC
[18:20] <Guest97> ohk
[18:20] <Windy> Guest97: https://libera.chat/  read up here.  you can register a nick (id/nickname) if you want to ensure nobody else uses it
[18:20] <Guest97> thanks
[18:20] <sarnold> Guest97: most people get a nickname for themselves so they can build personally reputation over the decades, but a lot of folks get new names every time they join
[18:21] <Guest97> this is all new to me
[18:22] <Windy> different IRC networks have different ways of doing things as well.
[18:22] <sarnold> you may like to skim through https://www.irchelp.org/ -- it's about irc in general, not this specific network, so parts of it may not be perfect, but it should be a good starting point https://www.irchelp.org/
[18:23] <Guest97> ohk thanks
[18:29] <Intelo> tomreyn where are logs for firefox? chrom
[18:31] <oerheks> journalctl -qb /usr/bin/firefox
[18:31] <oerheks> oops, it is snap now
[18:32] <oerheks> in ~/.mozilla/firefox there used to be crashreports.. i removed firefox, so i do not have 'm
[18:33] <arraybolt3> Intelo: Might be worth a shot looking in ~/snap/firefox/common/.mozilla/firefox.
[18:46] <Intelo> arraybolt3 what about chromium-browser?
[18:46] <Intelo> oerheks ^
[18:46] <oerheks> as it is a snap, maybe the same?
[18:51] <Intelo> no snqap
[18:51] <Intelo> no snap
[18:51] <Intelo> not snap
[18:51] <Intelo> apt\
[18:52] <arraybolt3> Intelo: Enable "Show hidden files" in your file manager (it might be named something different but similar), and see if that helps you find it.
[18:52] <arraybolt3> The ~/.local/share folder would be a good spot to look if you can't see it directly in your home folder.
[18:54] <oerheks> journalctl -qb /usr/bin/chromium ... or you better investigate virtualbox
[18:54] <oerheks> did you give a proper 4gb to the VM?
[18:54] <oerheks> max videomemory?
[18:57] <Intelo> oerheks 128mb vmsvga, f3d
[18:59] <cosmicrajiv> why not firefox-esr available after adding this ppa https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[18:59] <Habbie> cosmicrajiv, i don't see firefox-esr on that page
[18:59] <Habbie> cosmicrajiv, also, pleaes read the warning at the top
[19:00] <cosmicrajiv> Habbie: is there any other way that i can install firefox deb or firefox-esr?
[19:00] <oerheks> wrong ppa, https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[19:01] <cosmicrajiv> oerheks: thanks.
[19:04] <Intelo> brb
[19:37] <Intelo> journalctl -qb /usr/bin/chromium    ~/snap/firefox/common/.mozilla/firefox.  etc shows no logs oerheks arraybolt3
[19:38] <Intelo>  ~/.local/share  niether
[19:39] <Intelo> ref question:
[19:39] <Intelo> I used firefox, chromium on a lubuntu virtubalbox. The browser crashes (display message, something went wrong). This happens for both browsers after visiting 8 or 10 pages of the same website. Does it most probably has to do with ram, cpu, disk or something else?
[19:40] <sarnold> my guess is malicious advertising served by the website
[19:41] <leftyfb> Intelo: this is a VM, how much memory and cpu have you assigned for it?
[19:41] <tomreyn> journalctl -b    should show at least one line records of these processes failing, possibly with a segmentation fault, though. let's see those.
[19:41] <Intelo> leftyfb I tried combination with 1g, 2gb, 4gb ram and 3 cores cpu in all three cases. All three cases produced same results
[19:42] <leftyfb> Intelo: 4-8g would be preferred
[19:42] <sarnold> oh wow that's tight, yeah, try more memory too
[19:42] <tomreyn> about:memory and about:processes lets you review what's going on within firefox
[19:42] <tomreyn> 1GB is definitely not enough, 4GB is a good start.
[19:45] <Intelo> leftyfb sarnold but more than half of the ram as per htop was free at that time (for 2g, 4g ram tries) https://imgur.com/G9ekZ07.png
[19:46] <Intelo> tomreyn ^
[19:46] <sarnold> I wonder why your firefox snap is trying to create /usr/share/libreoffice/help/ -- could you pop into #snappy and share that image around?
[19:47] <Intelo> sarnold do you work for ubuntu?
[19:47] <sarnold> Intelo: yeah
[19:47] <Intelo> ok
[19:50] <CultOfTheLibrary> Hey all - I'm trying to add a corporate environment's network proxy' chain to Ubuntu (18.04 and 20.04) - there are ~~5 certificates used.  In RH-based systems I can throw them into a single file.  Ubuntu is skipping during update-ca-certificates due to multiple certs in file.  Do I have to split them into unique files?
[19:50] <tomreyn> i think so, yes
[19:51] <tomreyn> sarnold: maybe bug 1951210 is related
[19:52] <tomreyn> https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12127 refers to this path
[19:52] <sarnold> tomreyn: aha!
[19:53] <sarnold> the create still weirds me out..
[19:53] <tomreyn> you mean the mkdir?
[19:53] <sarnold> yeah
[19:54] <tomreyn> oh, that's a "create mask", i see
[19:55] <tomreyn> i'd also prefer not to have bonzibuddy javascript embedded to my libreoffice help pages ;)
[20:15] <gneeriiloeepdeer> is this the right place to ask about bluetooth connectivity between a digital piano and an ubuntu computer?
[20:16] <sarnold> it's not wrong, but maybe a channel devoted to audio folks might have a higher ratio of folks who've tried
[20:16] <gneeriiloeepdeer> any channel suggestion?
[20:18] <sarnold> oh right, sorry, I got distracted
[20:18] <sarnold> gneeriiloeepdeer: #lau
[20:20] <gneeriiloeepdeer> Im asking here as well: I have a kawai novus 10S hybrid piano and Im trying to record directly what I play with audacity through bluetooth. My computer recognizes the novus as a device, it's connected, trusted and paired, but I don't know how to proceed
[20:24] <alkisg> gneeriiloeepdeer: no idea, but here's an idea :P, maybe you can use something midi-based like musescore instead of pcm based like audacity
[20:25] <alkisg> I.e. recording the notes, not the sounds
[20:25] <alkisg> https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/note-input#midi-keyboard
[20:25] <gneeriiloeepdeer> I want to record the sounds I play
[20:26] <gneeriiloeepdeer> as wav or flac
[20:26] <sarnold> oh interesting, normally folks want to do the midi thing instead
[20:27] <gordonjcp> gneeriiloeepdeer: see if you can work out which audio device the bluetooth interface shows up as
[20:27] <alkisg> Hmm true, it does claim to support bluetooth audio
[20:27] <gordonjcp> gneeriiloeepdeer: in general though bluetooth audio for recording is an unmitigated pain in the dick
[20:27] <gneeriiloeepdeer> wait, Im a noob
[20:27] <gordonjcp> regardless of platform
[20:27] <gordonjcp> has it got a USB port?
[20:27] <gordonjcp> if it shows up as a USB sound card and USB MIDI port, then that's definitely 100% absolutely totally the way forward
[20:27] <gneeriiloeepdeer> midi is also a file format and not a transmission format?
[20:28] <gordonjcp> gneeriiloeepdeer: yes-ish
[20:28] <gneeriiloeepdeer> gordonjcp, the hybrid piano has a USB port
[20:28] <gordonjcp> "Standard Midi Files" are a way of storing sequences in a reasonably standard way
[20:28] <gordonjcp> they basically are just a big stream of MIDI messages and timecode
[20:28] <sarnold> if you want to try doing audio recordings rather than midi captures, https://ro-che.info/articles/2017-07-21-record-audio-linux looks promising
[20:29] <alkisg> And they're a lot more editable than wav/flac etc :)
[20:29] <sarnold> but midi captures is more likely to give you results you can combine with digital audio workstation tasks
[20:29] <gordonjcp> say you play a C major it'll say "00:00:00:00 Note On C4 Note On E4 Note on G4"
[20:29] <gordonjcp> but compressed storing just the raw MIDI bytes and the time is the offset since the last event
[20:29] <gordonjcp> I have written an SMF reader
[20:30] <gordonjcp> it was horrible horrible code and it barely worked
[21:03] <nik0n> Maybe someone here can help...i have a USB with clonezilla iso on it and i want to format it in terminal.
[21:04] <nik0n> I lsusb and see it, then DF and it isnt mounted.
[21:04] <nik0n> forgive my newbieness
[21:06] <overclucker> nik0n: you want to erase the usb drive so you can reuse it?
[21:07] <nik0n> yeah i want to put a different distro on it
[21:07] <nik0n> i know i could use gnome-disks or gparted but i wanna CLI that bish
[21:08] <nik0n> its not mounting becuase it has an ISO on it im assuming
 "I lsusb and see it, then DF..." <- I like pumount to unmount it, then mkfs to format it
[21:09] <gordonjcp> nik0n: format it to use it as a "real drive", or just blat an iso on?
[21:10] <nik0n> blat an iso
[21:10] <nik0n> could i just DD?
[21:11] <ravage> nik0n, if the ISO is in hybrid mode then DD works
[21:11] <nik0n> that idk
[21:11] <ravage> you could just try
[21:11] <nik0n> tru...its kali
[21:12] <ravage> so you could have just read the documentation https://www.kali.org/docs/usb/live-usb-install-with-linux/
[21:13] <nik0n> see but i like social interaction
[21:19] <overclucker> nik0n: I usually fix the drive header with 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=1', partition it with fdisk, and then format to vfat before imaging a new iso. I seem to have less failures that way, and I can check that the drive still works.
[21:27] <CarlFK> I like Usage: dcfldd [OPTION]...  Enhanced version of dd for forensics and security.
[21:27] <CarlFK> mostly because it gives a % complete update that gives me a clue it is working
[21:28] <tomreyn> so like status=progress for dd
[21:29] <CarlFK> oh neat.  didn't know bout that.
[21:33] <nik0n> I DID IT!
[21:35] <tomreyn> congratulations on finding your caps lock key.
[21:38] <CarlFK> I am trying to install GSConnect  on 22.04 - I had it working on 20.04.  now I can't figure it out...
[21:39] <CarlFK> I think the way to install it is  https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1319/gsconnect/ but that page says: Although GNOME Shell integration extension is running, native host connector is not detected. Refer documentation for instructions about installing connector.
[21:39] <oerheks> sudo apt install gnome-shell-extension-gsconnect
[21:40] <oerheks> voila
[21:40] <oerheks> and logout/login again
[21:42] <CarlFK> ah, logout/login again... thanks
[21:42] <oerheks> sadly it is needed, maybe some wizzkid finds a proper way
[21:45] <nik0n> anyone tried monocraft yet?
[21:45] <nik0n> the font
[21:45] <CarlFK> um.. logged out in, still borked
[21:46] <CarlFK> gnome-shell-extension-gsconnect:    Installed: 50-0ubuntu1
[21:46] <oerheks> that should be right, for gnome 42
[21:47] <CarlFK> lets try rebooting.. cuz turning it off and on again is at least funny and often works
[21:49] <tomreyn> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1406598/gnome-shell-extensions-not-working-in-ubuntu-22-04
[21:50] <tomreyn> i do not know whether this still applies - maybe you just need to install all pending updates?
[21:52] <oerheks> enable them in settings?
[21:54] <CarlFK> um.. do what in settings?
[21:56] <oerheks> !info gnome-shell-extension-manager
[21:58] <Slartibart> Hi. Are bash questions ok here?
[21:59] <oerheks> there is #bash here on #libera
[21:59] <Slartibart> Thanks
[21:59] <tomreyn> Slartibart: i'd say if those refer to your ubuntu installation, yes, but #bash may be more suitable.
 "!info gnome-shell-extension-..." <- still not sure what you are suggesting I do.  that package is installed.
[22:07] <oerheks> then you find it in your menu, to set up
[22:07] <CarlFK> find what in what menu?
[22:07] <oerheks> manager for extentions..
[22:08] <CarlFK> what?
[22:08] <oerheks> one must unlock android to get it detected
[22:08] <oerheks> what?
[22:08] <oerheks> ?
[22:09] <CarlFK> android side is working with my old 20.04 box.  my new 22.04 Ubuntu side, GSConnect doesn't seem to be installed
[22:22] <CarlFK> got it working.  this might be it: gnome-extensions enable gsconnect@andyholmes.github.io
[22:26] <tomreyn> that should do the same as flipping the botton on (gnome) extensions in Settings.
[22:26] <tomreyn> *button
[23:34] <jhutchins> '