[06:02] <zxmpi_> with the king having his own line of biscuits i wonder if they'll be getting more attention
[12:49]  * penguin42 is in the midst of trying to convince an electrician to fit a new consumer board with RCBOs; I've had to learn too much
[19:55] <daftykins> penguin42: what's causing the change, do you have an old thing atm? i've still got a porcelain fuse wire Wylex xD
[19:56] <daftykins> also wooden backboard which i understand is against regs now
[19:58] <penguin42> daftykins: Right that sounds like what we have, we decided it was about time to get the fuse board itself changed
[20:00] <daftykins> ah ha, if natural gas prices go nuts i may be better off with a heat pump which could require a switch
[20:02] <penguin42> daftykins: Hmm you say that, but the elec/gas price ratio is still very high
[20:04] <daftykins> electric hasn't been so bad here, not sure how it compares to England
[20:08] <penguin42> daftykins: I think it was something like 28p/kWh elec, 7p gas
[20:08] <penguin42> that was due to go upto 50/15 but they've introduced a new as-yet-unspecified cap
[20:09] <daftykins> D: 
[20:09] <daftykins> yeah that's ouch, in fact i have a bill here somewhere 
[20:10] <daftykins> normal rate was about 19 to 21p, low was maybe 13 but i forget
[20:10] <daftykins> (load balancing cheap rate time system)
[20:11] <penguin42> but the heat pump stuff, only had a power advantage of something like 3, so if your elec is more than 3x as expensive, I'm not sure it helps, even if you had a house insulated enough to cope with it's lower temperatures
[20:12] <daftykins> it's certainly got a fair amount of room for improvement on the insulation front due to the numerous single glazed windows and listed-building status
[20:13] <penguin42> the prob is that most of the heat pumps dont get the heating water that hot
[20:13] <daftykins> ah that wouldn't be great, my shower runs off the gas boiler
[20:14] <penguin42> there are some that can get it hotter, but they're even less efficient