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jelohello. just have upgraded to 2204 - why is Ambient-MATE theme missing? (i previously copy it from my old machine to another machine as it was also missing in vnc desktop ubuntu server 2204)02:22
jelo /usr/share/themes/Ambiant-MATE   and   /usr/share/icons/Ambiant-MATE02:24
superkuhhttps://github.com/lah7/Ambiant-MATE/02:35
superkuh"Ambiant-MATE, Ambiant-MATE-Dark and Radiant-MATE were deprecated after Ubuntu MATE 20.04 and is no longer officially supported starting in 22.04. This repository is a fork of the original themes and icons previously in ubuntu-mate/ubuntu-mate-artwork."02:36
superkuhI also disagree with this removal.02:37
jelothanks.02:43
jeloyes. best theme. and THEY :D removed it.02:43
jeloit is also some other things that should be defalt and they are not and in my opinion it makes less people use linux.02:43
superkuhI've just been porting the files from my MATE theme from 1.8.2 (2014) to ever subsequent MATE DE install.02:44
superkuh+y02:44
superkuhIt's getting harder and harder to replicate the functionality and look of gnome2 every release.02:45
jeloi just copied files too.02:45
jeloah. maybe.02:45
superkuhgtk3 is changing underneath MATE. Nothing they can do about it.02:46
superkuhWell, changed.02:46
superkuhNow it's just frozen broken.02:46
jeloi dont realy understend these gtk2 gtk3 things...02:46
jelobut lots of these things looks ugly ;)02:46
jeloAND even the NEW design (without menu File etc on the top) is not comfortable tu use (it is in some programs)02:47
superkuhI hate how on modern MATE built with modern gtk3 I cannot copy and paste file paths directly into a file->open dialog.02:48
superkuhIt drives me crazy.02:48
jeloyep, it perhabs wish to that wrong way ;) (gtk3)02:48
jeloi never use these grapgics for files - only mc02:48
superkuholdschool.02:48
jeloi m 198202:49
superkuhI really like nautilus/caja. I spent/spend a lot of time building up my nautilus scripts.02:49
jelochild of zx spectrum ;)02:49
superkuhEven wrote a few myself for handling things like tech to speech of documents.02:49
superkuhI'm GUI at heart.02:49
superkuhEr, s/tech/text/02:50
jelowould you like to take a look on my translate shell gui i made some years ago and no one use it! just my.02:50
jeloand about gtk... once i lern some wxwidgets (know its weird) but then i start thinking its best thing for gui without browser as it is still simple.02:51
jeloAND these native gtk or QT ... is...02:52
superkuhI use Perl/Tk. ;)02:52
jeloi m too perl ;)02:52
jelobut more node now.02:52
superkuhI'm sorry.02:52
superkuhSounds rough.02:52
jeloonce i even start a somthing to run perl scripts on windows machines with graphics and table output :)02:54
superkuhI learned perl on win32.02:55
superkuhLong before I switched to Ubuntu (5.04 days).02:56
jelohttps://dmini.eu/ex-test/02:56
jelook found this. there is screenshot with "exel" and perl script02:57
jeloi d k now if there is still sense to avoid browsers html+js02:58
jeloi dont like it for something that should be desktope app, but do normal people care?02:59
jelohttps://dmini.eu/trans-gui/02:59
jeloand the translator gui02:59
superkuhNormal people don't use computers.03:00
superkuhThey use smart phones.03:01
jeloit is also...03:01
jelosomething...03:01
jeloin my opinion - even breaking the world. as.03:01
jeloit is making people dumb on many levels03:03
jeloor maybe they also dont like windows. when switch to phones with everything that is not work.03:05
jeloand then it comes: removed Ambient-MATE.03:10
alkisgI don't mind much about themes, but some teachers here reported that Yaru looks like Windows 95 to them :D05:27

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