[00:10] <arraybolt3> vorlon: Audacity, Ardour, and possibly digiKam are the ones I know of. (ffmpeg5 insanity)
[00:10] <arraybolt3> (Those are at least some of the intended-to-be-seeded Snaps.)
[01:05] <vorlon> arraybolt3: for digikam, see email; the build-dependency appears to be vestigial and should be dropped
[01:07] <vorlon> arraybolt3: ardour is in kinetic. audacity has been removed, yes; I wouldn't call it "last-minute" when it was known and had been discussed for a couple of months already
[01:08] <arraybolt3> vorlon: Well something's gone wrong with Ardour and Eickmeyer is working on seeding it as a Snap IIUC.
[01:08] <arraybolt3> If digiKam can be repaired that would be awesome - I was going to try to patch it somehow but it sounds like you already figured out a solution for it?
 Ardour FTBFS and was removed, so we're going with the snap. Luckily the snap is in much better shape.
[01:10] <arraybolt3> (From #ubuntustudio-devel)
[01:16] <arraybolt3> (Just to clarify, this is from an observer standpoint, I'm not claiming to speak for Eickmeyer. This is just what I've seen happening.)
[01:57] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: Did I say Ardour? I meant Audacity.
[01:58] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: False alarm on Ardour.
[01:58] <arraybolt3> Eickmeyer: :P
[01:59] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: Thanks for clearing-up the digikam madness.
[06:52] <mitya57> Hi all! I would like to land Qt 5.15.6 today. It is prepared in a PPA: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/4927/+packages
[06:52] <mitya57> First, please tell me if there are any objections.
[06:53] <mitya57> Second, uim FTBFS on armhf for unrelated reasons. I filed Debian #1019974. Can someone please remove the binaries from release pocket until it's fixed?
[07:05] <rs2009> could someone run the Ubuntu Unity ISO build?
[07:05] <rs2009> vorlon:
[07:05] <rs2009> ah thanks
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[10:31] <ricotz> hello ubuntu-release :), libreoffice 7.3.6 in jammy-proposed is good to transition to -updates - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1988744
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[11:58] <ricotz> hello ubuntu-archive :) ^
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[13:50] <sil2100> ricotz: that would be ubuntu-sru responsibility, but we don't use highlights ;) I'll try to release it in a bit o/
[13:52] <ricotz> sil2100, hey, thank you, I didn't want to ping you directly while you were pretty busy already
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[15:23] <bdmurray> We are looking into the issues with the armhf autopkgtest queue not being consumed due to downed workers.
[16:24] <mitya57> vorlon: Hi, can you please remove uim/armhf binaries in kinetic/release? It's the only blocker for landing https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4927
[16:49] <vorlon> mitya57: why are we accepting a regression in buildability of uim on armhf?
[16:51] <vorlon> mitya57: and, uim has reverse-dependencies in the archive that are built on armhf (gkrelluim, mlterm-im-uim,...)
[16:55] <mitya57> vorlon: It regressed for reasons unrelated to Qt and unknown to me. It happened in first half of August according to https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/debian/history/armhf/uim.html
[16:57] <mitya57> I tried to get a stacktrace, but gdb stacktrace is useless (probably stack corruption) and all I got from valgrind is this: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?att=2;bug=1019974;filename=valgrind.txt;msg=5
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[17:09] <mitya57> Or maybe one simply can't debug scheme code with gdb…
[17:36] <mitya57> vorlon: FWIW, I also asked for its removal in Debian: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1020230 (but it's not done yet)
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[18:10] <RikMills> vorlon: mitya57 I also had a brief look at getting uim armhf to build, and had no luck
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[18:17] <vorlon> fwiw I had a slightly out-of-date kinetic armhf container here where it built successfully, then after a dist-upgrade I can reproduce the failure.  unsure if it's worth bisecting that particular dist-upgrade, but I did notice that libgcroots was not in the list
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[19:06] <vorlon> mitya57: and uim ships its own scheme interpreter? lovely
[19:07] <mitya57> I don't know if it's a full interpreter or a small wrapper around the library, but something like that, yes.
[19:09] <vorlon> it's a full interpreter
[19:09] <vorlon> the libgcroots library is for some reason split out, being from the same upstream and just garbage collection
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[21:22] <mwhudson> dear release team i want to upload glibc this week, would you prefer me to wait until friday so the autopkgtest queues are busy over the weekend or just get on with it?
[21:31] <vorlon> mwhudson: https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running queues nearly empty so get on with it
[21:31] <mwhudson> ack
[21:31] <vorlon> (there's an armhf-specific backlog that's being addressed)
[21:46] <vorlon> kanashiro__: not sure how I missed it at removal time, but aircrack-ng has reverse-dependencies left behind on s390x: mdk3, mdk4, bully
[21:50] <kanashiro[m]> vorlon: I see, I'll ping the debian maintainer about it
[21:50] <vorlon> it's possible these revdeps also need removed
[21:51] <kanashiro[m]> yeah, likely
[21:54] <kanashiro[m]> release team: do I need a FFe bug to remove a feature from a package? I do not see any mention of that in the wiki page but I think the same process should be followed, right? If yes, maybe it worth a mention there
[21:54] <vorlon> kanashiro[m]: it's such a general question that I find it difficult to answer
[21:57] <bdmurray> mwhudson: it might be a wee bit before the armhf stuff is completely squared away
[21:58] <kanashiro[m]> vorlon: there might be the case where a feature removal causes a change in the API or something like that
[21:58] <kanashiro[m]> and that might impact reverse dependencies
[22:26] <vorlon> kanashiro[m]: yes, and such things should certainly be carefully considered, especially post-FF; but I don't think this is easily synthesizable into a policy
[22:26] <vorlon> if you want the release team's input on a specific change you're considering, please file an FFe bug :)
[22:35] <mwhudson> bdmurray: would you prefer i held off then?
[22:35] <mwhudson> the queues don't seem especially bad right now
[22:38] <bdmurray> the armhf queue is rather stuck as we need to either redeploy every worker (which sucks) or manually update a couple of things (which sucks slightly less)
[22:40] <bdmurray> I expect all the armhf workers to be good by the start of your day tomorrow
[22:40] <mwhudson> ok i'll upload then then
[22:41] <mwhudson> gives schopin another day to disagree with my decisions too
[23:33] <bdmurray> I've got 5 of the armhf remote workers up and running
[23:44] <vorlon> mwhudson, bdmurray: glibc is going to fill the queues no matter when we do it; and it's going to be in the 'huge' queue so still letting most things through past it; and it's not like starting an armhf glibc build now means things are going to land in the queue now
[23:53] <mwhudson> ok fine