| vorlon | xnox: I'm thinking the d-i-requirements seed should just be dropped | 01:15 |
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| Piraty | does ubuntu maintain a list / feed of known bug that are yet to be patched ? think of the one that made containers crash host kernel a few weeks ago, so people consumingt his feed would refrain from upgrade | 10:29 |
| rbasak | Piraty: there's a public bug tracker: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu. But many people report bugs that turn out not to be bugs, and there are plenty of low priority bugs that never get patched. So I don't think it'd be useful for the purpose you suggest. | 10:33 |
| rbasak | Too many people argue about the importance of individual bugs for a list to be useful to someone else with different priorities. | 10:33 |
| rbasak | But if there's a particular bug that you care about, then the bug tracker will tell you about the status of that bug. | 10:34 |
| ogra | known bugs are also in the release notes and these are usually getting fixed fast ... but that is indeed only true for all bugs found *before* release ... | 10:34 |
| Piraty | i'm afraid i'm incompetent on terminology here, regarding "release" . i mean i'm on 22.04 and would like to know before i `apt update && apt upgrade` if possibly run into stuff like https://lwn.net/Articles/899420/ , given it is known / publicly announced and has not yet been patched . (i know , might be unlikely but not impossible) | 10:38 |
| Piraty | release notes are published once 22.04 tagged / branched i assume. are there release notes mid-lifetime of a release ? | 10:39 |
| Piraty | or bug announcements ? | 10:39 |
| Piraty | in a specific plase i could subscribe to | 10:40 |
| Piraty | * place | 10:40 |
| Piraty | on bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu, when clicking on a item to 'order by', i get "Server error, please contact an administrator. OOPS ID:OOPS-8cd4373eb3b28edd752c6a54c7c0d861" | 10:41 |
| rbasak | Open bugs known to affect 22.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/ | 10:58 |
| rbasak | That's a more manageable number. But it's still dependent on people actually marking the bugs, and the accuracy of that list. | 10:58 |
| Piraty | thanks rbasak | 12:05 |
| hawk | juliank: I was asking about this in #ubuntu and it was suggested I ask you here, I am seeing this dist-upgrade result today on 22.04, with lots of removals that seem to maybe be a relate to the held back phased updates(?), https://pastebin.com/raw/tztEuqmY | 15:46 |
| hawk | s/be a// | 15:49 |
| jbicha | sil2100: ^ | 15:57 |
| bdmurray | oSoMoN: Do you know what 'cannot use snap "firefox": default provider "hunspell-dictionaries-1-7-2004" is missing' from a livefs build failure might be about? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/624942173/buildlog_ubuntu_kinetic_amd64_ubuntu_BUILDING.txt.gz | 16:48 |
| oSoMoN | bdmurray, yes, that's https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1792006, and we're working on it | 16:49 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 1792006 in Core "[snap] Dependency on the hunspell-dictionaries-1-7-2004 content snap breaks building Ubuntu desktop images" [S1, New] | 16:49 |
| bdmurray | oSoMoN: ah, thanks! | 16:50 |
| bdmurray | oSoMoN: Is there a timeline for getting this sorted? ginggs just reminded me the beta is very soon | 17:25 |
| fenris | anyone using proposed repo in kinetic kudu? | 17:49 |
| fenris | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 17:50 |
| fenris | gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock : Depends: gnome-shell (< 43) but 43.0-1ubuntu1 is to be installed | 17:50 |
| fenris | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. | 17:50 |
| mdeslaur | hopefully not, it's not supposed to be used | 17:51 |
| fenris | need to remove the 3 packages: gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop-minimal | 17:51 |
| bdmurray | Using -proposed for the development release of Ubuntu is not recommended | 17:52 |
| fenris | @bdmurray: for sure we need to accept the consequence before enabled it .. wink .. but just asking the dev here | 17:53 |
| * fenris finger cross | 17:53 | |
| bdmurray | fenris: I'm not sure what kind of answer you are looking for but you've heard from two Ubuntu Core Developers not to use -proposed. | 17:54 |
| fenris | noted @bdmurray , the answer i might or expect is there will be another build with those related packages will support gnome-shell 43 | 17:57 |
| enr0n | I am looking for a MOTU or core dev to review and sponsor bug 1990562 | 18:03 |
| ubottu | Bug 1990562 in dh-python (Ubuntu) "attempting to diff static library files raises UnicodeDecodeError" [Medium, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1990562 | 18:04 |
| enr0n | ginggs: ^ this resolves the numpy FTBFS in the test rebuild | 18:05 |
| jbicha | fenris: yes, we already know about the ubuntu-dock issue & will fix it. But even the devs don't run proposed during the development release | 18:11 |
| oSoMoN | bdmurray, yes, I'm hoping for a fix to land tomorrow, Monday at the latest | 18:15 |
| oSoMoN | nteodosio is working on the fix | 18:16 |
| bdmurray | oSoMoN: ack, thanks | 18:19 |
| fenris | thanks @jbicha | 18:20 |
| jbicha | oSoMoN: do you want to push an older firefox to the latest/stable/ubuntu-22.10 channel so that we can keep building ISOs until it's fixed? | 18:29 |
| ginggs | enr0n: nice! i suspect that will be picked up in debian quickly and we'll be able to sync | 18:42 |
| enr0n | ginggs: sounds good, I did forward it | 18:46 |
| oSoMoN | jbicha, I can do that, but that will be an outdated version (CVE-wise) | 18:48 |
| jbicha | oSoMoN: I just thought it would be interesting practice since I don't think we've used the distro series channel before. But it sounds like the fix will be soon so either way. | 19:03 |
| jbicha | bdmurray: see the earlier discussion about python3 phased updates causing users problems on jammy. Should we fully phase python3* | 21:04 |
| jbicha | or set the phasing to 0% temporarily? | 21:07 |
| jbicha | users can avoid this problem by running `sudo apt upgrade` instead of blindly running `sudo apt dist-upgrade` and not paying attention | 21:08 |
| jbicha | I was able to reproduce the problem by changing my /etc/machine-id to something that triggered the right mismatched phasing | 21:08 |
| bdmurray | jbicha: actually modifying the phasing will require an AA e.g. vorlon | 21:10 |
| bdmurray | fully phasing it seems better than the alternative though | 21:14 |
| jbicha | I opened bug 1990586 | 21:21 |
| ubottu | Bug 1990586 in python3.10 (Ubuntu) "22.04: python3* mismatched phasing breaks dist-upgrades" [Critical, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1990586 | 21:21 |
| bdmurray | thanks | 21:28 |
| vorlon | bdmurray, jbicha, juliank: yes, python3.10 / python3-defaults / python3-stdlib-extensions phased to 100% | 22:02 |
| sarnold | vorlon: this feels like something you might know off the top of your head https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shim/+bug/1990326 | 23:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1990326 in shim (Ubuntu) "ubuntu server 20.04.5 cannot be installed after enable secure boot" [Undecided, New] | 23:47 |
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