=== denningsrogue0 is now known as denningsrogue [00:53] !ping [00:53] pong! [00:53] (Testing to make sure Internet slowdowns aren't blocking IRC, thanks for your patience) [01:01] how do I resize a window to be larger than my screen? [01:01] I need to make firefox about three times taller than my screen [01:04] eam: Can you unmaximize it, then drag it to the bottom of the screen, resize it up taller, drag the window down, resize it taller, etc.? [01:05] Or do you need the top to be off the screen? [01:05] oh fantastic, I think I can. I've been playing with firefox --height but it doesn't seem to work right [01:07] Yeah, looks like GNOME will let windows go off the bottom of the screen, but not the top. But if that does what you need, great! [01:08] I'm trying to work around this bug: https://github.com/mozilla-services/screenshots/issues/2830 and ... I think I just did by making a super tall firefox window lol [01:08] Issue 2830 in mozilla-services/screenshots "Full page screenshot doesn't work on G-Docs (and maybe others)" [Closed] [01:08] I was this close to going back to an older window manager which I knew the rules of, haha [01:15] hi === M4he is now known as mahe [01:57] hello, where are you from? [01:58] anybody [01:58] !chat | orxieur [01:58] orxieur: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! === zakalwe` is now known as zakalwe === blackest_mamba_ is now known as blackest_mamba === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc [04:58] I have a 'mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0' error, how to debug ? [05:01] blackhawk: does your cdrom drive have a disc inside? [05:03] yes it does [05:04] can it also read the disc (as in capable of it?) [05:04] blackhawk: Are you able to access this disk with other software? [05:04] And can other computers read it? [05:04] I don't have other software on ubuntu [05:04] Yes other computers could read it [05:05] blackhawk: I mean, can you open the disk using Files? Without using the mount command? [05:05] No files can't open it [05:05] Do other disks work? [05:05] I'm suspecting a problem with either your disk or your disk drive. [05:05] Yes the part 2 of the same disc series worked [05:06] (And I suspect murmel is too.) [05:06] blackhawk: Check the disk for scratches, then. [05:06] murmel ? [05:06] yes? [05:06] You may also need to just wait. (murmel is the other person who's talking to you. There's two of us here.) [05:06] (I've seen some disks take loooooong before they finally showed up.) [05:07] okay I understand [05:07] yeah especially with scratches [05:07] (Like, I plugged the disk in, and waited, and waited, and waited, and then finally a pop-up appeared indicating that the disk was recognized. It was one seriously scratched up disk if I remember correctly.) [05:07] I can send a pic of the disc with imgur.. plz wait [05:07] I remember havind disks taking up to 2-3 mins (that was back in the day on windows because of scratches) [05:10] https://imgur.com/a/hBIU5oY [05:11] as you have mentioned now, I do suspect a scratch [05:11] try to clean it and try again [05:11] (i used always my shirt, but probably not a good idea) [05:12] I have a clenaing spray and special cloth, i'll use that [05:12] but in the picture close to the center rims, I see something like a major crack [05:13] yeah I didn't see that. hopefully it doesn't make the disc unreadable [05:14] The disc drive has a button to eject but it doesn't when I push the button, have to poke the manual eject hole evrytime [05:15] its GTA 4 cd so I hope it's readable [05:15] blackhawk: hm, most of the time i was able to just push the eject button for like 10 secs or so, and then it was opening the tray [05:17] 10 s ? That's kinda long imo [05:17] i am 100% sure, but I thought the same back in the day [05:17] eh I meant i am not 100% sure [05:18] wow now my whole system got unresponsive, what was the shortcut for those scenarios ? [05:18] shortcut combination ? [05:20] alt + sysrq + REISUB [05:22] thank you [05:29] blackhawk: if you can, maybe make sure that a different pc/device can read the cd [05:30] a'right let me try another laptop [05:31] blackhawk: im gone for a bit, but will be back in 15 [05:32] okay [05:42] Anyone experiencing i/o errors related to memory bottlenecks or VM guest usage? I've got this weird shit problem with extreme input lag from keyboard strokes. I only halfway fixed it by installing an accessibility program which I think was designed for KDE ... but it's working somewhat ... === bingoJACKPOT is now known as ETCshadow [05:53] bingoJACKPOT: how much ram do you give the vm? [05:58] blackhawk: got results? [05:59] well it could see that the disc is a 7.00 gb volume but can't load the contents entirely [05:59] I am still trying ejecting and trying multiple times [06:01] blackhawk: oh doesn't sound good [06:01] yeah fingers crossed now, will try few more times [06:03] But looks like my ubuntu laptop dvd drive is also not in the best of conditions. Any way to run some diagnostic test for it ? [06:03] blackhawk: not that I know of. the last time I used a cd was probably over a decade ago [06:05] you should try to make an iso image of it, or find some other source for such image. otherwise, even if not today, it will stop working at some stage. [06:05] right [06:06] 08:03 < blackhawk> But looks like my ubuntu laptop dvd drive is also not in the best of conditions. Any way to run some diagnostic test for it ? [06:06] 08:03 < blackhawk> But looks like my ubuntu laptop dvd drive is also not in the best of conditions. Any way to run some diagnostic test for it ? [06:06] argh sorry [06:06] (and disc drives are also a rarity these days) [06:06] avih: idk, I can buy them where I live quite normally (they are usb though) [06:06] yeah sure they are, these laptops are from early 2000s [06:07] murmel: sure, but what percentage of pc users have them in your opinion? [06:07] avih: at least in my circle roughly 50%? it's for the emergency case ;) [06:08] exactly, so in "normal" circles it's much closer to 0% :) [06:08] siply because new systems don't have them. you need to buy them separately these days. [06:08] honestly no idea :) [06:09] but very likely [06:09] yeah sadly enough. I am really debating into buying myself a blu-ray burner/player, as I am more of a physical disc guy [06:09] (i still have one too, in a 10 years old laptop, but that's the only one i have, and i haven't tried using it in years) [06:10] i need help with an python makefile [06:10] oski146: very likely the wrong channel [06:10] (it's entirely possible it's broken by now) [06:10] ok sorry.. so i need to use another program? [06:10] iam new to python [06:10] avih: idk, how you treat your stuff, but I still have cdroms which should work (even with a bad storage area) [06:11] same, except i haven't tried any of them in years :) [06:11] have you? :) [06:11] oski146: depending on what you want to ask, maybe it is the channel you want to be in or not [06:11] avih: nah, but idc anymore, as they are self burned stuff which I don't need anymore [06:11] i need the program coverfetcher but its in python2 and i get a error at make [06:12] but I still have them as they are quite a lot of them :/. guess I need to get myself some torchburner or so [06:12] so can ypou give me a channel? [06:12] oski146: do you know which python versions are supported [06:12] its in python 2 [06:12] oerheks: you should ask at the bug tracker of the program you're trying to build. they'd likely need to update to support python 3 [06:13] ok is python2 deprecated? [06:13] yes [06:13] avih: very unlikely that that will happen if they still are on 2 [06:13] ook so i need to uninstall python2 ...sad [06:13] oski146: deprecated for 12 years now? or so [06:14] murmel: it depends. worth a shot [06:14] last release was 2011 xD [06:14] i guess worth a shot (not) [06:15] ... [06:15] oski146: did you look into other programs? [06:15] I fetch my covers with musicbrainz [06:17] i did not find any good cover fetching program for kde [06:18] k3b dont download covers and kid3 dont do it too the servers down i think [06:18] oski146: most people I know use musicbrainz picard as it's a tagger + cover download + integration [06:18] ok thanks i look into it :) [06:19] and cover integration is with amazon+spotify+other streaming services. can't remember fully the others [06:21] in kid 3 the amazon integration and musicbrainz dont work [06:21] how come? (you need to activate it in picard) [06:21] discogs not wirking too [06:22] i mean in kid3 sorryfor misunderstanding [06:22] ahh [06:22] how is the package called for musicbrainz picard? [06:23] oski146: picard [06:23] thanks [06:24] then i can remove kid3 if this is working [06:24] oski146: good luck, need to afk for another 30-40 mins [06:26] np thx [06:58] oski146: and does it work? [07:07] "Ubuntu" in the gdm session login is on Xorg right? when I chose it, it just display a black screen and I have to restart gdm from another TTY; only Wayland works [07:08] ice9: ubuntu is wayland, ubuntu on Xorg is xorg [07:08] murmel, I only have "Ubuntu" and "Ubuntu on Wayland" [07:09] ice9: nvidia? [07:09] murmel, yeah [07:09] ahh so for nvidia it seems to be reversed then (no idea never had nvidia) [07:12] ice9: did you try a new user? [07:12] murmel, no, I will [07:30] Hi,can you advice, i've installed amdgpu from "https://repo.radeon.com/amdgpu/22.20/ubuntu jammy main" [07:30] But it seems that i still using software rendering. How can i change it ? [07:30] xatrix: is there a reason why you want/need the pro driver? [07:31] https://pastebin.com/nVmjgpJm [07:31] murmel, I tried with fresh user but didn't work too [07:32] ice9: i assume you have the nvidia driver instaled? [07:32] murmel, yes and used as primary driver === dd3my is now known as Guest6485 [07:33] ice9: does the Xorg log say something? (/var/log/) [07:33] xatrix: without more info nobody can really help you, i mean which release do you even use? as no ubuntu release has the devel version of mesa (afaik) [07:34] murmel, I have no xorg log files at all in /var/log; I just upgraded nvidia driver and will reboot [08:13] why am I getting "xdpyinfo: unable to open display ":0.0"" on a server that has no X11? [08:18] murmel, still same issue after using the latest nvida driver [09:01] When I boot the 22.04 installer and select Japanese language, the window grows larger than the screen and the buttons at the bottom are no longer accessible. How do I fix this? [09:02] That sounds like a bug :-( === dionysus70 is now known as dionysus69 [09:08] Similar things happen with release-upgrader, if one clicks "details", the embedded terminal shows; then the [ok/next] buttons are off screen, no way to click them anymore [09:08] alkisg: you can move the window with clicking alt + left click drag [09:08] Even if one clicks details again to hide the terminal. ALLOW the resize button people, gtk doesn't work properly without it! [09:08] murmel: unfortunately not when you're viewing over vnc [09:09] That sounds like another bug. [09:09] Please do ensure that bug reports exist for these kinds of things! [09:09] alkisg: would you even see the resize button? [09:09] That's the only way developers find out about them. [09:09] murmel: yes, it would be on the taskbar [09:10] rbasak: sure, I've been filing hundreds of bugs in launchpad even if I get feedback in just like 10% of them ;) [09:13] Thanks. Unfortunately a bug report is just the first step. They also need to be bubbled up by importance somehow. [09:14] Yeh, I understand, I'm a developer too. It would be great if we could recommend to the users "file debian bugs to debian, and upstream bugs upstream", it would get rid of a huge amount of unanswered launchpad bugs [09:15] Then ubuntu developers could focus on ubuntu bugs, without having to search for them between thousands of bugs [09:19] Hi, droppping in, hoping to get some support for an issue with the Firefox snap. Recently upgraded my desktop (18.04 -> 20.04 -> 22.04) and was confronted with Firefox only being available as a snap. [09:20] I keep my browser open all the time and really like how reliable FF handles restoring a previous session, eg on updates or reboots. I often have tens of browser tabs. [09:21] This is broken with the snap, though - since my upgrade, it already happened twice that Firefox snap was updated and a restart was forced [09:21] ...and after that restart, I could not restore the previous session. [09:21] Is this a known issue? Any hints what I can do to troubleshoot? [09:27] JvI_home, you sjhould get a notifiction that asks you to close the browser ... it does that for two weeks before doing the actual update ... didyou not get this ? [09:28] ogra: I did restart the browser in the last two weeks [09:28] and with that restart, it restored my session just fine [09:28] JvI_home, well, you should run "snap refresh" while it is closed [09:28] (after you have seen the notification) [09:29] I *think* I did that as well, but not 100% sure (there's probably no way to verify that in any log, is there?) [09:29] there is work going on to automate this, but currently you need to manually run the refresh [09:29] "snap changes" and "snap change " can show you more info [09:31] OK, "snap changes" shows two change IDs (132 & 133), the first being 6 days ago, the second is this morning and contains the forced Firefox update [09:33] JvI_home, then you probably hit an actual firefox bug that is unrelated to updates [09:34] err... ignore that i can not read 😛 [09:41] is there a way or program that can compress files while also make a list of whats compressed so later can sort of continue a job again? I know with tar i could probably get a list with running tar another time and list files in already compressed archives and dump to a file and use it as exclude file for a later tar job any other method? [09:42] use the -v option for tar and it prints the filenames while it compresses [09:42] ogra that would work didnt think of it thanks [10:32] ok how tf does this shit work? [10:32] bare bones minimum i c [10:32] !ask [10:32] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [10:33] where is everyone from how does 1 find out [10:33] !chat [10:33] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [10:33] huh? [10:33] do you have an ubuntu support issue? [10:34] nope i judt downloaded this. i thought it was like a chatroom to chat with people near and far didnt know it was support chat [10:35] my bad dully noted this is support chat only thanks for the heads up [10:35] any recomendations b4 i leave [10:36] there is !alis to find chatrooms [10:36] !alis [10:36] Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see «/msg Alis help list» or ask in #libera - Example usage: «/msg Alis list http» [10:36] enc4ypt3d_r34p3r, if you just want to chat, go to the #ubuntu-offtopic channel [10:37] some need registering with #libera [10:37] right, ou might need to register your user name first [10:38] im still new to linux so idk what you guys are all talking about i knw i knw pain noob === x1 is now known as wellwm === weq is now known as Guest222 [12:12] Hi all [12:16] i was testing https://snapcraft.io/electron-youtube-downloader but my playlists did not work; tip: set them on public, not private.. [12:20] oerheks, https://github.com/N1sek/ElectronYoutubeDownloader/issues ... file a bug ;) [12:20] no, it is not a bug. i assume. [12:24] are there no legacy image builds for 20.04.5, like netboot.tar.gz ? [12:28] nickzxcv, no https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/ [12:36] my ubuntu is broken, again [12:36] lightdm failed to start [12:36] sddm failed to login to cinnamon session. return right back to the login menu [12:36] don't know wth going on [12:39] linsux: sorry to hear that, what do the logs say? [12:41] @linsux check kernel logs [12:42] check also crash folder /var/crash [12:49] oerheks: i've been using http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/legacy-images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz [12:49] because we have a bunch of preseed automation for disk encryption and setting up bonding and stuff [12:50] preseeding has been dropped in later versions, it is all cloudinit now [12:51] for later versions of 20.04 like 20.04.5, or only after 20.04? [12:52] the kernel in that build of netboot.tar.gz has a bug with our new intel x710 NICs it seems like [12:52] the i40e module loads and tries to setup the network interfaces but it fails [12:52] i got the iso installer of 20.04.5 to pxe boot, that kernel works fine [12:53] but its the new installer like you mention... [12:59] i'm changing distro [12:59] i can't afford down time [13:00] so you change reality [13:00] good luck :) [13:00] ubuntu is not stable [13:00] heh [13:01] tens of millions of people would probably disagree 🙂 [13:01] sometimes it matter how you use something. just saying :) [13:01] linsux, what did you do to it to make it unstable ? [13:01] i did apt update;apt upgrade to make it unstable [13:02] nickzxcv, debian-instaler (and thus preseed support) hasbeen dropped *before* 20.04 ... [13:02] *has been [13:02] where do i check the log? [13:03] either with journalctl or by reading /var/lg/syslog [13:03] */var/log/syslog === weq is now known as Guest3877 [13:03] amduntu kernel: [ 79.790036] traps: slick-greeter[4124] trap int3 ip:7fe02187f427 sp:7ffc5e8274f0 error:0 in libglib-2.0.so.0.7200.1[7fe02183e000+8f000] [13:03] does this mean anything? [13:04] linsux, you talked about sddm and lightdm above ... neither of them are in a default ubuntu install ... so you must have changed something (or be using a flavour that uses either of them) [13:04] ... that is ... beyond just doing an update/upgrade [13:04] i couldn't start lightdm, so i tried sddm [13:04] it's cinnamon [13:05] ah, so not ubuntu itself but a community flavour ... and a package secific for that flavour fails ... [13:05] *specific [13:05] * ogra needs a new laptop keyboard 😞 [13:07] looks like cinnamon isnt even an official flavour yet https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavours [13:08] reinstall your mint :-D [13:09] haha [13:12] i used lxdm, and i can login now [13:12] it's not my computer so i'll leave it for now [13:12] shitty ubuntu [13:14] linsux, geez ... do you curse your car manufacturer too afer you replaced parts of the engine without knowing what you do when the engine then does not start anymore ? you are messing up your system with explicit incompatible packages and blame us for it ??? [13:14] failed to wake up from laptop? "All kernels do that.", cinnamon? "not official flavour". always excuses stand by [13:14] lol [13:14] i usually trade in [13:15] so you sem to have installed every possible login manager in the archive (of which only exactly *one* can run at the same time) and wonder if they clash ? [13:15] *seem [13:19] he is not interested in a solution so i suggest to do further rambling in #ubuntu-offtopic or .. offline === blackest_mamba_ is now known as blackest_mamba [13:34] I'm trying to go back from the firefox snap to firefox-esr from mozilla ppa. However, firefox-esr doesn't want to load the profile that the snap used, as the snap is a newer version. Any way around that? [13:35] use the firefox-esr snap instead ? [13:39] (we do (and can) not support PPAs in here .... if you keep using the PPA you have to ask the PPA owners) [13:43] ogra: if I install the firefox-esr snap, would that be able to read/open/use the firefox snap profile then? === blackest_mamba_ is now known as blackest_mamba [14:06] JvI_home, the generic FF snap and the ESR FF snap use the same location for storing the profiles ... so if you did not remove the FF snap and just switch to the esr channel it should simply use whats there already [14:07] JvI_home, if you alread removed the snap, ake a look at "snap saved" to see if a backup of the user data for FF still exists ... you can then restore it with "snap restore" (see snap help for details) to get your data back [14:28] ogra: thanks for the hints. What I tried was simply copying the profiles from the firefox snap to the location where the esr version expects them, but the esr version will not open them, as it detects that they were written by a newer version === blackest_mamba_ is now known as blackest_mamba === blackest_mamba_ is now known as blackest_mamba === blackest_mamba_ is now known as blackest_mamba [15:09] I've seen multiple Ubuntu 20.04 hosts have weird ideas of what do do for a dist-upgrade today (wanting to remove lots of stuff, example: https://pastebin.com/raw/tztEuqmY )... is there some known problem and/or how does one track down the source of the sudden desire to remove all this stuff? [15:11] Uhm, sorry. Multiple 22.04 hosts that is, I mixed things up. === blackest_mamba_ is now known as blackest_mamba === Rahoul3 is now known as Rahoul [15:24] hawk, did you "apt update" first ? there was a big archive and launchpad outage last night this is probably fallout of apt not being able to fully update the package database [15:24] 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 108 to remove and 20 not upgraded. ... [15:24] ogra: I did, yes [15:27] hello& [15:27] hello? [15:27] hawk, how did you install this system in the first place ... most of these "REMOVED" packages should not be autoremovable at all [15:28] (apt explicitly tags them to not be autoremovable when run from the installer) [15:28] ogra, i see python3.10 update pending too, i had to kill snapstore again.. [15:29] weird [15:29] well, snapstore shouldnt have any effect on apt upgrades [15:29] and next update restart request.. [15:29] brb [15:31] ogra: It's a vm that I think was originally installed from the 20.04 iso and later upgraded to 22.04 with the usual do-release-upgrade process. To my knowledge nothing weird has been going on with it until today. [15:33] ogra: And yeah, it also wants to immediately remove a lot of stuff in addition to what it suggests to autoremove. [15:34] what is -u supposed to do ? it doesnt seem to be a valid option (according to the manpage) [15:35] ogra: Removing -u does not change the change it wants to do [15:36] yeah, i was just wondering what its purpose was [15:36] are you using a mirror or the main archive ? [15:36] perhaps the outage messed up a mirror ? [15:37] The -u is an ancient habit, I'm honestly not sure anymore. Maybe it doesn't do anything these days [15:38] This is with se.archive.ubuntu.com, I can try switching to something else [15:38] yeah, try just archive.u.c for a test [15:40] ogra: Ok, changed that + apt update, but dist-upgrade wants to do the same thing [15:40] wow, gross [15:40] are any of the packages listed as held back showing as "phased" ? [15:40] (check with apt policy ) [15:40] +a [15:41] yes, I did not check all but I just checked a couple and they were, eg systemd: 249.11-0ubuntu3.6 500 (phased 10%) [15:43] hawk, perhaps go to #ubuntu-devel and talk to juliank (apt maintainer) ... and show hom the paste from above [15:43] *him [15:43] i'm pretty sure phasing is not expected to remove your whole server OS stack [15:44] I mean, it's generally not the preferred result ;) [15:44] Sure, I'll do that [15:47] ogra: Thanks, let's see what juliank thinks === svm_invictvs_ is now known as svm_invictvs [15:55] its not working i switched to windows 11 in the vm to create with media player legacy( windows media player 11) [15:55] @murmel [16:02] ogra: Fwiw, I dug out an old man page and -u used to be --show-upgraded which I'm pretty sure is the default behavior these days (and there is only a --no-show-upgraded now) [16:03] ah ! [16:03] thanks for looking that up ! === blackest_mamba_ is now known as blackest_mamba === blackest_mamba_ is now known as blackest_mamba [16:35] Guys how can I lock a package with snap? [16:35] lock ? [16:38] adac, you can keep different versions [16:39] ogra, so that a package does not get upgraded [16:39] adac, https://snapcraft.io/docs/keeping-snaps-up-to-date [16:39] stays on a certain version [16:39] ioria, how do you mean? [16:40] you can not lock them completely, but you can hold them back from upgrading for 60days so they fit your maintenance window and you have time to test the upgrade [16:40] see the url above for scheduling mechanisms [16:41] also look 'retain' [16:48] alright thanks! === blackest_mamba_ is now known as blackest_mamba === blackest_mamba_ is now known as blackest_mamba [17:35] anyone know the command to make a 1 frame per second video from a mp4 file? [17:35] on ffmpeg === tom is now known as Guest798 [17:35] test [17:36] https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/ChangingFrameRate [17:37] maybe works for mp4 too [17:42] Guest798: Just go straight to production. [17:43] Guest798: What did you try to do? How did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What happened instead? [17:44] ty [17:53] since upgrading to ubuntu 22.04, i've been getting a lot of packages being held back when i run apt update. why is that? it happens on all my computers [17:54] that is due to phazed updates https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhasedUpdates [17:55] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html [18:06] hello guys [18:06] I have an issue, after an update of 22.04 (x86 64 bit), it doesn't boot in graphical mode anymore, and I just get a terminal [18:07] I've tried nomodeset, but this is a VM, so it didn't do anything [18:07] I checked systemctl get-default, and it is graphical.target [18:07] I've tried to start gdm3 manually via systemctl, it just doesn't do anything [18:08] no error, no gui [18:08] the logs don't seem to indicate why it didn't work, unless I didn't search properly, and I'd love pointers for what to search for [18:10] any idea what's going on and how to fix it? [18:13] oerheks: I'd not seen that, that's very odd approach 'we are not confident we can release stable software so I'll build up pushing it out until someone complains' [18:13] oerheks: thank you for sharing [18:16] Mister_X: systemctl list-units --failed ? [18:19] sarnold: just a custom one I made, that I haven't bothered fixing (it's been failing for a while): some iptables rules [18:19] hmm, bummer :( [18:20] Mister_X: how about systemctl get-target? [18:21] Unknown commad verb get-target [18:21] Did you mean get-default? [18:21] argh [18:21] yeah [18:21] sorry :) heh [18:21] that's graphical.target [18:22] okay, so it should *try*, anyway [18:22] I even tried to start manually gdm3 [18:22] systemctl start gdm3 [18:22] no output [18:22] nothing happens [18:22] journalctl? [18:23] nothing in the jounral ? [18:23] ah, seth beats me 🙂 [18:23] well, a few things can't start because there is no gui [18:24] obviously [18:24] but nothing special other than that that I can notice [18:24] about gdm indeed from your attempt to start it [18:24] and there is no unusual output after manually starting gdm3 [18:26] the output in journalct is that it indicates my command to start gdm3, followed by pam_unix (session opened, session closed) [18:26] that's it [18:27] what kind of VM is that and what graphics card does it emulate (does it have GL/GLES support for wayland ?) [18:28] KVM, whatever it uses as default [18:28] Red Hat virtio GPU [18:30] that has no extesions [18:30] yeah, you'd want virgl i think [18:30] it's the most effecient/dumbest video driver [18:31] ogra: it had been working fine before, and I have other 22.04 VM [18:31] that's surprising unless it's falling back [18:32] hmm, unix opening and closing the session quickly.. I wonder if your graphical session is set to run and then close again quickly? I've seen folks do that accidentally before, eg they put stuff in ~/.xsession without having a long-lived process in it.. [18:33] I had a GUI, and all I did was run an update and including updating snaps [18:33] then rebooted [18:33] I've never touched xsession [18:34] I don't even have have that file in my home [18:35] does the install use autologin ? [18:35] i.e. does gmd even try to spawn a session ? [18:35] *gdm [18:35] how would I check that? [18:36] the screen isn't even flashing when I try to start it [18:36] well, how did you use it before ... was a user automatically logged into the session on startup or did they have to type in a password in gdm [18:36] it just booted to gdm [18:36] login/password [18:36] then the pam message is from the gdm user ... [18:37] grep gdm /etc/passwd [18:37] does that return anything ? [18:38] yes, at the end of the line: "/var/lib/gdm3:/bin/false" [18:38] that looks fine [18:38] ikonia, i think of it as an extra step between proposed and update, one can disable this lock with Always=true https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/phased-updates-in-apt-in-21-04/20345/26 [18:39] Mister_X, does "apt -f install" do anything or "dpkg-reconfigure -a" ? [18:40] oh, good idea [18:41] -a is not an option for dpkg-reconfigure [18:41] no, it doesn't do anything [18:41] I always do my updates with dist-upgrade [18:41]