[21:57] Eickmeyer[m]: WRT firefox, I get popups which say: "Pending update of firefox snap close app to avoid disruptions (* days left)" where * is from 14 to 1 day [21:58] OvenWerks: Yeah. Only way around that is to close firefox, open a terminal, run "sudo snap refresh" and let that run. [21:58] Eickmeyer[m]: ok, so I close FF but if I reopen it I get the same box... [21:58] Thats pretty poor. [21:58] Yeah. The desktop team is aware of the poor UX and is working towards a solution. [21:59] if I let it run out, there is no disruption [21:59] If you let it run out, snapd is supposed to force-quit and automatically refresh. [21:59] that has not been the case so far [22:02] Unfortunately, then, you're not getting Firefox updates. [22:02] And might not be getting snapd updates because snapd, itself, is a snap. [22:02] snap is silly... [22:03] Still work-in-progress, but "good enough" I guess. [22:04] so doing a sw update with Discover doesn't hit snap hard? [22:05] (hard enough) [22:07] Is there a bug I can add this bug affects me too? [22:27] Correct. Discover doesn't do "snap refresh" unlike Ubuntu's upgrade tool, which refreshes snaps. [22:27] RE: bug, idk. [22:27] Might be able to find one. [22:29] OvenWerks: Just checking in #snappy, ogra makes a mention to someone just this morning that the method I mentioned is the only workaround at the moment, but they're hard at work fixing the problem. [22:29] I'll leave it then.