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Appolinairesoon I had to quit slow chrome and this will take a while. (been with this problem since 2020.00:05
Appolinairetomreyn, and I worked on it a lot.00:05
Appolinaireback then' Maybe cause you are seiing the problem someone else has an idea of why my browsers slow to a creem and will freeze up the system, effectively.  Soing something, twidding their thumbs. I have 8G ram00:07
murmelAppolinaire: depending on how many tabs you have open, that _can_ be an issue00:09
Appolinairehttps://pastebin.com/E2X2RtQF00:16
AppolinaireI thought so but then someone was showing over 700 tabs using ff and a tree system of accessing open tabs. I was shocked. I am always under 100 usually under 3500:17
murmelunder 100 tabs?00:17
ograimi, yes, ssh is the only way to log in by default00:18
murmelAppolinaire: literally the first line says deb cdrom:// ;) so just put a # in front of it00:18
Appolinairemurmoi about 45 now.00:18
murmelAppolinaire: well with 8gigs, that's almost a feat :)00:18
AppolinaireI have seen hundreds on a phone and the user didnt know.00:19
murmelyeah, but the tabs are getting "unloaded"00:19
imiogra: ok what is the username and the password?00:20
Appolinairewell I have had that many tabs all the time way back with 2 gigs of ram, years ago.00:20
Appolinaireiir oc00:20
ograimi, no username, no password, the ssh key you put into your login.ubuntu.com account is used00:20
imiwow00:20
Appolinairemumixam, Bashing-om  etc. https://pastebin.com/E2X2RtQF00:21
murmelAppolinaire: well, probably when js wasn't going rampant ;)00:21
Appolinairewhat is "js is going rampant"?00:21
imiand how does it figure out to use my key instead of anyone else's00:21
ograimi, it has a first-boot setup tool where you configure the network and give it your login.ubuntu.com mail address00:22
murmelAppolinaire: javascript, makes browsers quite bloat(y).00:22
ograimi, it then downloads the key from login.ubuntu.com ...00:22
Appolinairetell me about it. so many automatic videos and moving things. I use ublock origin.00:23
murmelAppolinaire: I disable js, which reduces RAM usage quite a bit. but some websites are basically unusable. did the commenting out of the first line help?00:23
Appolinairehttps://pastebin.com/E2X2RtQF  REGARDING murmel> Appolinaire: verify that it's deleted or has a # in the front in the file /etc/apt/sources.list00:24
murmelAppolinaire: yes?00:24
AppolinaireI couldnt find the line murmel so you asked for the pastebin. Took me forever because I named it ---.bak and I couldnt find it... for a while.00:25
enigma9o7shortcut to pastebin sources: cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* |nc termbin.com 999900:26
Appolinaireit is now after 5 lol "Everything Takes Longer" that's VanGelder's Rule00:26
murmelAppolinaire: yes, and if you look at your own link, literally the first line has the deb cdrom:// line, which you need to comment out (put a # in front of the line)00:27
enigma9o7Appolinaire: you could run `sudo apt edit-sources` then push # then control-x00:27
enigma9o7or if you're good with sed, that should be trivial too00:28
AppolinaireI should learn sed. I commented it out with nano.00:29
Appolinairethanks enigma murmel Bashing-om bsmith0931  and sarnold00:31
murmeleverything fine with apt update now?00:31
Appolinairelooks good. updated00:32
murmelgood :)00:32
Appolinairecheers. onward00:32
imican this configuration stuff be done completely headless?00:33
imiI have no monitor to attach to my rpi00:34
ograno, you need a serial cable or a monitor/kbd ...00:34
imiserial cable?00:34
imiyou mean rs232?00:34
ograyes00:34
imiiirc rpi4 does not have an rs232 connector00:35
ograit sure does 🙂00:35
imiwhere is it?00:35
ograyu wire up a usb-serial adapter to the GPIO pins00:36
ogralike this https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-5-using-a-console-cable00:36
imihm... that's cute00:37
ogra(works on all Pis, the pins differ between models though)00:37
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imiwell, if I have an rs232 connection, why am I not allowed to just copypaste a pubkey?00:48
imican I still choose my username on rpi?00:52
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bsmith0931imi: raspi-config, username01:38
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kotodamahi! I've been having a recurring issue with my laptop, it often goes unresponsive after I'm being absent for a while, or after I closed the lid02:17
kotodamaeven usually responsive Magic SysRq commands are unresponsive and I need to hard-reset / long press power button02:17
kotodamaI'm on Jammy, but it's been doing it on Hirsute and Focal over the last year02:18
kotodamathere's nothing in kern.log (last entry: PM: suspend entry (s2idle)) nor syslog, syslog though sometimes contains ^@^@^@ chars02:18
kotodamaI'm using plasma-desktop but it seems a system-wide issue02:19
kotodamaafair, it never happened when I entirely disable power saving, or if I manually suspend to ram02:19
kotodamaI'm having encrypted rootfs + swap, if it matters02:20
arraybolt3You mention that there's nothing in the kernel log, but I'm wondering if maybe earlier in the logs that might be helpful. Can you open /var/log/syslog and search for I/O errors?02:22
kotodamasure02:22
arraybolt3Having the system go into sleep and then panic upon wakeup sounds kinda like maybe the main drive is somehow failing to come back online when the system is woken up.02:22
arraybolt3(An old laptop did something similar to me once.)02:23
kotodamajust before going to sleep I have this:02:23
kotodamakernel: [2572428.552064] Lockdown: systemd-logind: hibernation is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.702:23
arraybolt3That sounds more like Secure Boot is enabled, though that shouldn't be a problem.02:24
kotodamawhat's odd though is I have a series of ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@, then I have some more text (I'll paste it somewhere) and only after that, the kernel boot logs appear (at the same second though)02:24
dabblerWhat determines what kernel updates get added to [release]-updates?02:25
kotodamaI'd have expected kernel boot logs to appear first02:25
arraybolt3kotodama: Yeah, that also sounds kinda like disk problems (corruption?).02:25
arraybolt3Maybe a RAM error would do that, too.02:25
arraybolt3kotodama: You might try using this tool to see if your system's RAM is working properly or not: https://www.memtest86.com/02:26
kotodamaah sure, I'll test it02:26
kotodamaone thing that startled me is that it started doing it when I joined Canonical :P02:26
kotodamaI created a new profile on my laptop and afair, it never did it when I was on my non-work profile02:26
kotodamabut maybe it's a red herring02:27
arraybolt3Probably :P I've never had a new user cause problems like that.02:27
arraybolt3(and fwiw, while I don't work for Canonical, I do have an Ubuntu SSO account and various other accounts in lots of Ubuntu- and Canonical-related stuff as part of my volunteer work, and my system's don't behave like that.)02:28
arraybolt3*systems02:28
arraybolt3I mean, I dunno, maybe if you're using different software than normal as part of your job, perhaps it's somehow conflicting with something else in just the right way to cause a kernel panic? Like, do you use multiple virtualization software systems on this computer (like VirtualBox and VMWare)?02:31
arraybolt3I can see that possibly being the cause of a kernel panic if your hardware is unusual.02:31
kotodamaarraybolt3: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2vQcmjgR2v/02:37
kotodamathis is today's boot logs + logs of when I suspended it yesterday02:38
arraybolt3kotodama: This doesn't happen to be a modded Chromebook, is it?02:39
kotodamanope, it's an Asus laptop02:39
arraybolt3(I noticed something about chromeos_pstore, I'm thinking maybe you modified a Chromebook to run Ubuntu.)02:39
arraybolt3Hmm... ok, still looking...02:39
kotodamathank you :)02:39
kotodamaapart from having lxd snap, nothing unusual I think02:39
kotodamaand even that might not be unusual :)02:40
kotodamaI think I ran a memtest when this first happened ~ a year ago and found nothing02:41
kotodama(over multiple runs during one full night :p)02:41
arraybolt3I'm seeing some ACPI errors, that might be the problem.02:41
arraybolt3Lemme see if I can remember the bot command...02:42
arraybolt3!acpi02:42
kotodamaah !02:42
ubottuto debug ACPI issues on ubuntu make sure your bios is up to date and follow the procedure here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI02:42
arraybolt3See if that helps fix things.02:42
kotodamaI initially thought it might be encrypted swap, then I moved it from using a random key to a fixed key but didn't help02:42
kotodamale met check that02:43
arraybolt3(Probably don't do the bit about acpi=off, since I think that may disable sleep entirely...)02:43
arraybolt3Also, what's the exact model and model number of your laptop?02:44
arraybolt3I can check to see if it has any known kernel settings that help make it work right.02:44
kotodamait's https://www.asus.com/ca-en/supportonly/ux430uar/HelpDesk_BIOS/02:45
kotodamaI'm one bios version late though02:45
arraybolt3kotodama: Oh, then I'd definitely give a BIOS upgrade a shot. (Please do yourself a favor and back up your data first if you've not already.)02:47
kotodamahehe :)02:48
kotodamahmm indeed acpi=off will disable sleep, would these also disable sleep ? noapic nolapic pnpacpi=off pci=noacpi02:48
arraybolt3Not sure. I did find that an option "mem_sleep_default=deep" can make sleep more power-effective, according to https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/ASUS_Zenbook_UX430/UX53002:48
kotodamaah, interesting :)02:49
arraybolt3That might shake things into working, if it does you can add it into the right line of /etc/default/grub and then run "update-grub" to make it permanent IIRC.02:49
kotodamayup, I'll do more tests and will give you feedback when I have more details ^^02:50
kotodamathanks !02:50
arraybolt3No problem, glad to help!02:50
kotodama:)02:51
explodesTo make a bootable ISO can you just mount the iso and copy the files to the destination flashdrive?03:21
explodesI figured it was more involved than that03:21
explodeshttps://www.onmsft.com/how-to/create-a-bootable-windows-10-usb-on-linux03:21
arraybolt3explodes: It is a bit more involved than that.03:22
arraybolt3(Actually, for UEFI systems it might not be, but for best results you should probably flash the ISO directly to the drive.)03:22
arraybolt3You can flash an Ubuntu ISO to a flash drive using software like balenaEtcher.03:23
arraybolt3That's what I usually use, it works great.03:23
arraybolt3(Note that ISO flashing will delete anything else that is currently stored on the flash drive.)03:23
arraybolt3explodes: ^03:23
explodesbalenaEtcher-1.7.9-x64.AppImage is some electron app, when I run it I get "FATAL:gpu_data_manager_impl_private.cc(415)] GPU process isn't usable. Goodbye."03:29
arraybolt3explodes: Oy. I remember there's a workaround, one moment...03:30
arraybolt3(Also, gotta love the error message. "Goodbye." ?!)03:30
arraybolt3explodes: Try "./balenaEtcher-1.7.9-x64.AppImage --disable-gpu-sandbox"03:31
explodeslul https://imgur.com/a/ot7d6uv03:34
arraybolt3explodes: And that's from trying to flash Ubuntu?03:43
arraybolt3Oh... no, you're trying to flash Windows on Ubuntu. My bad, Etcher doesn't work for that.03:43
arraybolt3explodes: Try using this: https://github.com/WoeUSB/WoeUSB-ng03:48
explodesI have to manually install a bunch of deps for that03:50
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Penguin111Whats the best Ubuntu flavor? Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Etc??04:07
Penguin111Seeking fast and light04:07
Penguin111I want to choose a different cipher other than aes-128 for my Linux Install Drive Encryption, how can I set an alternative cipher?04:08
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blahdeblahcccccchdgruvbghhcnfeddgrtglludtjkcdlhgftbvcj05:14
blahdeblahNailed it05:14
arraybolt3blahdeblah: ...?05:15
blahdeblaharraybolt3: Bumped my Yubikey05:15
* arraybolt3 attempts to pass text through an aes128 cypher05:15
arraybolt3Oh LOL05:15
arraybolt3Hopefully that wasn't a security risk, right?05:15
blahdeblahNah, it's just a semi-random string that uniquely identifies the hardware key05:16
arraybolt3Ah, OK.05:16
blahdeblahSo, what I actually came here to ask is: is there a working replacement for gnome-shell-extension-system-monitor on 22.04?05:17
blahdeblahWhen I upgraded from 20.04 my system monitor in the top panel broke and it seems there is no official replacement.05:17
arraybolt3blahdeblah: One moment, lemme find out...05:17
blahdeblahIt seems like there are several different forks/redevelopments of the same thing on the gnome extensions site, but I haven't found one that works yet.05:18
arraybolt3blahdeblah: I don't see any official replacement, sadly. Man, that looks like a really useful tool too.05:19
arraybolt3(I see there's a system-monitor-next extension, but I have no idea if it's trustworthy, and I'd guess you probably already looked at it.)05:20
arraybolt3(Actually, the system-monitor-next extension looks like it's made by the same guy. Did you try it already?)05:22
blahdeblahThat one is the one that ended up looking like the best bet, but I couldn't get it to work. ;-(05:23
arraybolt3Argh, and I see it's actually a fork. :(05:23
blahdeblahAnd the problem is compounded by the fact that now that Firefox is a snap, it doesn't seem like it can install GNOME extensions anymore.05:24
arraybolt3Though it says it's only forked for packaging purposes I think.05:24
arraybolt3blahdeblah: Can you use the Extensions Manager?05:24
arraybolt3I think it's gnome-shell-extension-manager, you can install it with Apt.05:24
arraybolt3I'm able to install extensions on my system by using it.05:25
blahdeblahSo that's different from gnome-extensions-app?  That seemed to be the preferred extension manager now.05:26
blahdeblahSorry: "gnome-shell-extension-prefs"05:27
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arraybolt3blahdeblah: I dunno, I'll see which one I have. ALso, I just noticed some of the dependencies of the system-monitor-next extension were missing on my system, so I'm installing them to see if I can make it work.05:27
* arraybolt3 has to log out and log back in real quick, one moment please...05:28
arraybolt3blahdeblah: Well that appears to have done the trick, the extension is now working for me.05:29
arraybolt3I had to run "sudo apt install gir1.2-gtop-2.0 gir1.2-nm-1.0 gir1.2-clutter-1.0 gnome-system-monitor" in a terminal, then log out and log back in.05:29
blahdeblahI was missing the -clutter- package - I'll give it another shot now.  Well, I need to reboot anyway... :-)05:32
blahdeblaharraybolt3: 100 cool points to you!  Working now. Thanks for the help.  <305:48
arraybolt3\o/ Glad to be able to help!05:48
AppolinaireI installed opengl now what does that do for me as far as playing games 20.04 i5 dell with 8G RAM and Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller05:55
Appolinaire but I cant figur out if it has any memory on that.05:55
ikoniaAppolinaire: it all dependson the video card and the games needs05:58
rfm Appolinaire not sure what you are asking. If you have old hardware, new games are gonna be slow.05:59
AppolinaireIf that isnt a video card I dont know if I have one. would I see with lspci?05:59
ikoniaif you're running a xeon I"m guessing it's more likely a server type hardware ?05:59
ikoniafew desktops run with xeons05:59
Appolinaireit is a dell 9020.06:01
schoningGood morning. I am running Pop!_OS but this bug has also happened on Ubuntu and even Fedora. So I would just like to ask where to report it. My HP ZBook is unable to use a second monitor unless I revert to kernel version 5.10.119-0510119-generic. I found out about that via a forum tutorial. But would like to report it so I maybe, eventually, can06:01
schoningupdate to the newest kernel.06:01
ikoniaI don't know what that is06:01
ikoniaschoning: for ubuntu launchpad.net06:02
schoningThanks ikonia06:02
elwispIs it required to disable all 3rd party repos in /etc/apt/source.list.d/ prior to upgrade or does do-release-upgrade fix this ?06:11
alkisgdo-release-upgrade disables them, no need to do it manually06:14
samy1028cAppolinaire:  The Xeon E3-12231 v3 chip (and others in the v3 line) do NOT have integrated GPU.  However, you're also listed "i5 Dell".  A Core i5 does have an integrated GPU.06:33
Appolinairesamy1028c, thank you for that info.06:34
samy1028cYou'll need to determine which CPU you actually have installed on that system.06:36
elwisphow odd. My /boot/ does not have enough space to "do-release-upgrade" even after changing compression. Only have 2 kernels there06:36
samy1028celwisp:  what does "df -h" show for /boot?06:36
elwisphttps://pastebin.com/zU6ffGuW06:37
samy1028codd.  It should be enough.06:37
samy1028cDo you need both kernels?  Perhaps run "apt-get autoremove" first?06:38
Appolinairesamy1028c, is this enough infor? and why do I need this?  - - product: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590 CPU @ 3.30GHz06:38
AppolinaireI forgot how to find out how much free space I have on my hard drive.06:39
elwispaah, maybe i am wrong here, i think the compression made enough room06:39
elwispAppolinaire: df -h06:39
samy1028cAppolinaire: yes - then you don't have a Xeon CPU.  There are some people who have installed Xeon's into a Dell 9020 but that's not supported by Dell.06:39
Appolinaireok I did that but cnat read it I guess samy1028c06:39
samy1028cAppolinaire:  https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/80815/intel-core-i54590-processor-6m-cache-up-to-3-70-ghz/specifications.html06:40
Appolinairesamy1028c, I am just reading form lshw06:40
samy1028cLook under Processor Graphics06:40
elwispheh, nope, after compression it needs even more space. https://pastebin.com/H7nScAYk06:40
Appolinairesamy1028c, looking on that page?06:40
samy1028cThe i5-4590 comes with Intel HD Graphics 4600 and you can allocate up to 2 GB vRAM to it (usually set via BIOS/UFEI).06:41
samy1028celwisp: odd it needs that much space.  But I usually do an "autoremove" before a "dist-upgrade" anyways so it's been a long time since I came across that problem.06:42
elwispsamy1028c: yeah i have no old kernels, i have already done autoremove06:42
samy1028cwhat version are you currently on and what are you upgrading to?06:43
Appolinairethanks samy1028c -- it is too late for me to think, it turns out so till later. good night06:43
samy1028cyou're welcome Appolinaire06:43
elwisp20.04.05 and i am going to 22.04.whatever is current06:45
samy1028cI just checked. I have a VM that was 18.04 and upgraded to 20.04 and it shows /dev/sda2  974M 205M  702M  23% /boot06:48
samy1028cand I have an Ubuntu 20.04 on Azure that has /boot under / but even so is only using 55MB.06:49
elwispyeah my other box is exactluy the same honestly. Its very odd06:49
murmelsamy1028c: yeah but azure is virtualized, with a specialized kernel, so it makes sense that it's super small (basically no drivers)06:50
samy1028cUnfortunately I can't help on the oddities of 20.04 > 22.04 as it's going to be a while before we get there.  We've been upgrading 18.04 FIPS to 20.04 FIPS slowly but surely.06:50
elwispwhen looking what uses space also https://pastebin.com/9HtNUazj06:50
elwisputs current kernel and old06:50
murmelhow big is /boot and how big is the complete disk?06:51
samy1028cWhen was the last time you rebooted?  Would that help and then you can do an autoremove again to get rid of 5.15.0.46?06:51
elwisp38 mins ago06:52
elwispmurmel: check my previous pastebin06:52
samy1028cmurmel: he listed it as /dev/nvme0n1p2  704M  269M  383M  42% /boot06:52
elwispdev/nvme0n1p2             704M  269M  383M  42% /boot06:52
elwispits all default stuff06:53
murmelinteresting, as my latest initramfs (and the one before) need 108 megs06:54
elwispi think i can just delete the old kernel, should work honestly06:55
murmelelwisp: yeah when you want to upgrade anyway06:55
murmeland you do know that the latest works06:55
elwispi wonder if this is a nvidia issue. Might make the image to big with their phat drivers?07:00
murmelelwisp: over 380 megs oO hm maybe07:04
elwispupgrade running now however :)07:05
murmelelwisp: gl ;)07:06
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elwisp:( it broke my system07:24
murmelelwisp: what happened?07:25
elwispIts not even runnign anything custom. I installed it in march i think. So it was realatively fresh. Got some obscure error. It lost network connection also07:25
murmelelwisp: without logs can't say much ;)07:25
elwispyeah, i rebooted. now its just spinning wheel. I think this is a  reinstall07:25
murmelelwisp: at least you will probably fix your /boot issue ;) (my fresh install is almost 2 gigs)07:26
elwispyeah, me neither07:28
elwispgot console now but no network07:28
elwispyeah this is a very broken system. Sad that this was going to be my first experience running ubuntu in prod07:30
elwispCame from debian when i bought this machine early this year07:30
elwispStarted networkmanager and still no network07:31
elwispso i asdasdasdad07:37
elwisp .07:38
elwisp  07:38
elwisp .07:38
elwispoh, shit, sorry about that, terminal hung here07:38
elwispAnyways, i got the nic going in a manual fashion which allows me to run a apt full-upgrade do-release wont allow me to run it befor eall packages are installed07:39
elwispI guess this is where zfs shines07:39
elwispit broke luks :(07:55
murmelelwisp: I really wonder what happened. especially with only official repos it should work perfectly fine07:55
elwispyeah, me too, the last thing i can remember installing on this machine was some nvidia stuff07:57
murmelelwisp: and sadly, I wouldn't use the zfs-on-root ubuntu install anymore, still in a testing phase + zsys was almost not included in 22.04 anymore (which would break installs)07:57
murmelif you want to go that route, you would need to install it the manual way07:57
elwispi have another ubuntu machine in the house also. And i upgraded it yesterday only minor upgrade but it had a dependency conflict that i had to resolv07:58
murmelelwisp: oO07:58
murmelsame no 3rd party repos?07:58
elwispyeah, not 3rd party07:58
elwispbut i guess this is beyond repair now anyways. Just gotta rebuild :/07:59
elwispwoke up feeling the urge to mess about with the system today hence the upgrade, i have regrets noe hehe07:59
elwispnow*07:59
murmelelwisp: it is repairable, question is if you want to go through the motions of fixing it07:59
elwispmurmel: what do you suggest? livecd and chroot in? It wont even boot now08:01
elwispcant find the luks partition08:01
murmelelwisp: yeah08:01
elwispim about to try that now. Just gotta fetch the iso :)08:02
murmelelwisp: sure :)08:02
elwispmurmel: i think i forgot how to chroot in08:17
elwispis there an ubuntu way to do this or is it just the good ol mount it and run the chroot cmd?08:18
murmelelwisp: the old way ;)08:18
EriC^^elwisp: dont forget to mount --bind the /sys /proc /dev /dev/pts08:20
elwispstarting out with gnome crapping out in the live cd env. Not my day today08:21
murmelelwisp: did you nomodeset? (you got an nvidia ;) )08:22
elwispno08:22
murmelelwisp: would be helpful08:22
murmeli really hope the blob will be distributable :/08:23
elwisppertty sure this was just some wizard app that bugged out because i clicked around a little08:24
elwisptrying again08:24
elwispmurmel: how do i do that?08:25
murmelelwisp: what?08:26
elwispnomodest08:26
elwispnomodeset08:26
murmelelwisp: during boot in grub edit the entry (select the entry, press e, then at the end of the linux line, add nomodeset)08:26
elwispok08:27
kotodamaarraybolt3: hey ^^ I haven't upgraded bios yet, but then as I rebooted after a memtest, tried some options08:39
kotodamanolapic or noapic immediately freezes computer (sysrq KO, power button KO) on ctrl+x08:39
kotodamaacpi=off option freezes on asking for rootfs passphrase screen08:39
kotodamaI'll do more tries (removing the quiet / splash screen this time heh)08:39
elwispalright, i am chrooted in. murmel got any idae whats the next step? :)08:40
murmelelwisp: verify that your "crypt" stack is using the correct UUIDS, so first start out with /etc/crypttab (which should have the UUID of your /dev/sdXY08:41
elwispits the right one08:44
murmelelwisp: what does your /etc/fstab say about the lvm UUID?08:44
elwispit shows the lvm path for the root08:45
elwispall looks right to me08:45
murmeloh right, I forgot08:45
murmelelwisp: "sudo update-initramfs -uk all"08:46
murmelbtw, the upgrade went through without issues?08:46
murmelelwisp: still there? xD09:05
elwispyeah, its not installed09:06
elwispwierd09:06
murmelwhat is not installed?09:07
elwispupdate-initramfs09:07
elwispwhich is wierd, because i ran it on that system before upgrading09:07
murmeloO09:07
elwispShould i just install it?09:08
murmelyeah09:08
elwispits so odd however that it would remove that package09:08
murmelelwisp: I rather wonder if you don't have /usr/sbin/ in your path09:09
elwispnah its there09:10
elwispanyways, updated now, just reboot to test it?09:10
murmelelwisp: yeah09:11
elwispinteressting09:12
murmelhm?09:12
elwispi found something googling, dracut install removes initramfs09:12
murmelelwisp: yeah, but ubuntu doesn't use dracut09:13
elwispoh, will try a reboot then09:13
elwispvolume group "vgubunut" not found cannot porcess colume group09:17
Habbievgubunut or vgubuntu?09:18
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elwispvgubuntu09:18
murmelelwisp: I remember that 22.04 had an issue with encrypted installs, but I was sure it was fixed, trying to find it on lp09:22
elwispwell i am out of ideas09:26
murmelI right now can't find the bugreport :(09:29
elwisphttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/1979159 looks somewhat similar09:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1979159 in cryptsetup (Ubuntu Kinetic) "Cannot unlock encrypted root after upgrading to 22.04 due to use of non-standard ciphers" [Critical, Fix Released]09:32
murmelelwisp: ugh, yes. and it seems there are multiple issues where it can lead to not finding the vg09:41
murmelelwisp: yeah, sounds like it's easier to reinstall, rather than poking around what's going on oO. sad day09:50
Guest54Hello, does anyone have or ever had any performance issues running Ubuntu 20.04 on a build with Threadripper 3975WX and Asus Pro WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI motherboard? Running PassMark CPU benchmark yields half of the expected results...09:52
murmelGuest54: on which kernel are you on?09:54
Guest54murmel it was the default one, let me check again...09:54
murmelGuest54: well depends on if you run server or desktop ;)09:56
murmeldesktop has the hwe stack enabled by default09:57
Guest54yeah, it is desktop09:57
Guest545.15.0-46-generic09:58
murmelGuest54: I wonder if 20.04 is already "uptodate" enough for zen(2?)09:59
murmelwas 2 or?09:59
Guest54I think it is Zen 210:00
Guest54What do you mean though?10:00
Guest54I've had another problem with this particular board when the SATA disks wouldn't appear until SR-IOV was disabled or the BMC patched to the latest version that ASUS had10:01
murmelGuest54: your cpu on zen2 came out after 20.04, and additionally, I can remember that amd wasn't that great back in the day in upstreaming before release of the product (it got definitely better since then)10:01
murmelon the other hand, I do remember that zen2 was already out quite a bit itself :/10:02
murmelGuest54: can you boot up a 22.04 live ISO and try passmark?10:03
Guest54yeah, the interesting thing is that we can get around 60k in passmark for a 3970X build and 5950X10:03
Guest54sorry, for 5950X it's the same as for this 4975WX ~44k10:04
Guest54sorry again, 3975wx, sausage fingers :))10:04
murmel:)10:04
murmelhuh, that's weird then. AFAIR those are also on the same zen2 (besides being more hampered than the pro threadripper)10:05
Guest54do you think switching to 22.04 could help?10:06
Guest54currently stuck with 3 of the same build and their performance is less than of the old 3970X we have10:06
Guest54IIRC 22.04.1 also uses the same version of the kernel10:07
Guest54tbh, I don't even know where to start digging for the potential source of the problem10:07
murmelGuest54: sure but the surrounding compilers are newer10:07
murmeland it's a quick test if something is going on with 20.04 or the mb ;)10:08
murmelI have seen boards devestating cpu performances10:08
murmelbut it has been a while10:08
Guest54the board we had before wouldn't post at all, had to return it10:08
Guest54(same model)10:09
murmelugh, wow. sounds like a "Pro" mainboard10:09
Guest54and last time i checked it was the only option for this particular socket back then :/10:10
Guest54to be honest, i can't really do anything with it right now, it is in another office and i have to wait for them to put it back on next week10:11
murmelyeah, HEDT is quite dead10:11
Guest54i mean at this point i am even considering to ask them to install windows or another distro and repeat the benchmark10:12
Guest54but this behaviour is consistent on two different machines10:12
murmelconsistent in 50% performance?10:13
Guest54yes, it stays around 40k in passmark on both PCs, with low of 38k and high of 46k on a good day10:13
Guest54as opposed to 62k i could hit on 3970x10:13
Guest54now it's not just passmark, it seems to be affecting the software we use as well10:14
oerheksdid the latest intel microcode fix retbleet?10:14
murmeloerheks: afaik yes10:15
oerheksthat could explain the drop for zen/zen2/zen3, 50%++10:15
Guest54we run a video capture and process each frame, with 3970X it would be consistent ~50fps but with 3975wx it is around 25fps at best10:15
Guest54but why this particular model :S10:15
murmelGuest54: I assume you checked that cpu temps are okay?10:16
Guest54they stay around 80-85c10:17
Guest54which I think is considered ok10:17
murmelyeah max is 90, just can't remember when it starts to throttle10:18
Guest54we also checked if memory speed was a major factor, turns out DOCP (XMP) wasn't enabled, but this didn't help at all10:18
murmeli would honestly try 22.04 (as it's a fast test) and then win10/11, but afaik windows doesn't have a great scheduler for ccx configurations10:19
murmelif 22.04 I would probably load the live ISO into ram, so there is definitely no bottleneck10:19
murmelbut sounds like there is definitely something wrong, (I mean outside of sw)10:20
Guest54yes, that is the plan for when they are able to bring this system back online10:20
murmelbut just my intuition10:20
InteloHow to check luks encyprted disk via fsck? its ext410:20
Guest54i was also considering using 18.0410:20
murmelIntelo: unlock luks and then run fsck10:20
Guest54thank you10:21
murmelGuest54: eh, I wouldn't, but it's also on the same kernel ;) if we are talking about that10:21
TomyWorkI'm on 18.04. I just ran "sudo update-ca-certificates" and it did something (removed a bunch of old certs). Isn't that supposed to run automatically, when new certificates are installed or removed?10:21
TomyWorkMy actual issue is that curl doesn't recognize letsencrypt certs, while firefox does. curl uses /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt, which is created by update-ca-certificates.10:22
TomyWorkif I download the letsencrypt R3 cert and use it with --cacert, it works, but isn't letsencrypt supposed to be in the cert store by default?10:23
murmelTomyWork: maybe? https://letsencrypt.org/docs/dst-root-ca-x3-expiration-september-2021/10:25
Intelomurmel whats the path to disk ?10:25
murmelwhich maybe implies that the new one is not available for 18.04?10:25
Intelothe /dev/.sss?10:25
Intelomy original one is /dev/sda10:25
Intelobut after unlock. i do not know what it is10:25
TomyWorkmurmel, that was a year ago though and certs from other hosts work10:25
murmelIntelo: /dev/sdX or /dev/nvmeXXX10:25
TomyWorkthough I got those other certs using cert-manager and this one via acme.sh (yes, with --server letsencrypt)10:26
murmelahh10:26
Inteloand how to open?  with `cryptsetup open` or `cryptesetup luksopen` ?10:26
Intelomurmel no. /dev/sda is encrypted one10:26
murmelIntelo: open or luksOpen, doesn't matter10:26
Intelomurmel it cannot be scanned.10:26
Intelomurmel even open. i think it should be /dev/mapper/sda10:27
Intelonot /dev/sda10:27
murmelahh you are right, sorry10:27
Intelodo I need to mounted it ?10:27
murmelI definitely need more sleep :(10:27
murmelno10:27
Inteloso it automatically maeks it /dev/mapper/sda or I have to name it ?10:27
Intelowhats the single comand to fsck ALL things and fix it too10:27
murmelif you open it yes, it gets created, and then you can just fsck /dev/mapper/10:28
murmelman fsck.ext4?10:28
Inteloman dont work for me10:28
Inteloi am confused10:28
Intelobrb10:28
TomyWorkok I see a difference between those servers. the working server returns the whole chain10:33
TomyWorknot sure why the new server doesn't do that, since I told it to do that10:34
ravageTonyStone, make sure you have " !mozilla/DST_Root_CA_X3.crt" /etc/ca-certificates.conf and run update-ca-certificates10:34
TomyWorkthis is not a solution. this has to work on a bunch of other servers too. I dont want to do this on every single one of them10:35
ravageit is a solution. if you want to look for a better one you can do that of course10:36
TomyWork"manually add the cert" is not a solution to "the cert isn't added automatically10:38
ravagegood luck10:38
TomyWorkalso the root cert is already in there. the intermediate cert is the difference, so what you're proposing wouldn't even work10:38
elwispmurmel: yeah, cooying out home now10:40
murmelelwisp: hf :)10:41
elwispwish i had the 10 gig network going atm. 1 TB data over rsync10:44
murmelelwisp: oof, really sounds like you need a better backup system, where you don't have to sync that much one at a time10:46
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elwispi do have borg running as well10:50
elwispBut it does not take the downloads folder10:50
elwispwhich i like to keep but its not critical10:50
brvadiraj46what is a docker and why its needed?10:52
murmelbrvadiraj46: it not necessarily needed, but it's a neat way to containerize stuff10:52
murmelelwisp: but still 1tb is quite a lot (imo especially for downloads)10:52
ravagedocker is a whale mostly fed by devops10:52
elwispyup :)10:53
brvadiraj46I mean what problems do docker solve?10:53
brvadiraj46I have hard time understanding it10:53
murmelbrvadiraj46: security, and repeatable deployments10:53
ravageit is debatable if it solves more than it creates. check dockoer.io10:53
ravagedocker.io10:54
murmelyeah security is very questionable, (one reason why I moved on to podman)10:54
ograbrvadiraj46, it isolates your app from the rest of the system ... though in ubuntu you should really rather use lxd (it is preinstalled and fully supported)10:55
murmelogra: eh, lxd covers a different use case imo, not the docker use case though10:55
TomyWorkthat's not the problem it solves though, ogra10:55
TomyWorkbrvadiraj46, you know when you set up an application, you take a lot of time getting the OS ready for it, right?10:56
ograwhat is the problem then ?10:56
brvadiraj46yes10:56
TomyWorkbrvadiraj46, docker standardizes the way an application is invoked. the application brings all of its dependencies with it, usually in the form of a stripped-down linux distro. docker runs that image and it talks to your linux kernel only, not to the rest of your system10:57
brvadiraj46I have a very old macbook pro... I can't go beyond catalina on it... can i use docker to install latest version of ubuntu on it and work on ubuntu10:58
ograjust like snaps or like lxd images do ...10:58
TomyWorkbrvadiraj46, no10:58
ravagebrvadiraj46, you can probably just install Ubuntu on it as your primary system10:59
murmelbrvadiraj46: depends on what you mean by working on ubuntu10:59
TomyWorkeither that, or a VM10:59
ograbrvadiraj46, for that you'D likely rather use parallels (or some other VM technology)10:59
murmelUTM is a good FOSS solution10:59
ograor install natively as ravage said ...10:59
murmelif going the vm route10:59
TomyWorkdocker is more for running applications, not a whole linux distro10:59
murmeland additionally, you need to be careful who you add to the docker group (as it's basically giving somebody root)11:00
TomyWorkbrvadiraj46, btw when I talk about an application, I mean a server application11:01
murmelyou can also deploy desktop applications *shrug*11:01
ograwell, you can run desktop applications just fine from containers as well11:01
ogra(see snaps)11:02
Intelomurmel I am back.11:02
TomyWorkmurmel, not really what it's designed for, though11:02
InteloAny command to fully and forcefully check and fix ext4?11:02
TomyWork(I mean docker, specifically)11:02
TomyWorkIntelo, e2fsck i think11:03
TomyWorkit's clled e2 but it's really for ext2-4 :)11:03
ograIntelo, really depends how broken it is ... if you are unlucky a forced check will just fill your lost+found folder and your data is broken11:04
brvadiraj46for our application, I don't need to setup anything locally... we use AWS for MySQL, dynamoDB and elastic cloud for elasticsearch11:04
brvadiraj46when everything is in cloud, why docker11:04
TomyWorkwell all of these use things from the same ecosystem as docker11:04
ravageif you want to discuss anything Ubuntu relates please use #ubuntu-discuss . a general docker discussion maybe in #ubuntu-offtopic or another suitable room11:05
ograyeah, this is getting pretty offtopic for this channel11:05
TomyWorkbrvadiraj46, let's go to #docker11:07
Intelotomreyn note fsck.ext4 -pyfcv ?11:07
TomyWorkwhy highlight t omreyn and T onyStone. read your message, people ^^11:07
TomyWorkIntelo, also, idfk11:07
Inteloidfk?11:08
TomyWorki dont f know11:08
Intelo:)11:08
TomyWorkman fsck.ext4 brings up the manpage for e2fsck though11:08
TomyWorkso it stands to reason that the former is just an alias for the later11:08
Guest25Hi all! I just upgraded my Xubuntu machine (which I configured for full disk encryption according to this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019) to 22.04 LTS and now I can't boot anymore (initramfs) :-/ Is anyone here willing to help and assist me? (It's my first time in this chat, please bear with me... Don't know11:16
Guest25whether this is the right channel.) Any help would be greatly appreciated!11:16
elias_aGuest25: Just stay on the channel and wait. I am terrible with initramfs problems.11:28
ravageyou could give some more information on the actual error until then :)11:28
lotuspsychjeGuest25: try to state & detail your exact issue; volunteers can try to help with the most info you give them11:28
lotuspsychje!details11:31
ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.11:31
elwispis it possible to backup package state from a system so that i can just install the packages on a new system?11:42
Guest25okay. After the upgrade, I rebooted and first encrypt the disk with the master password. That works. Then GRUB, selecting regular ubuntu. Then the xubuntu start up screen appears relatively long, and then the busybox, initramfs prompt appears. Before that (but I think this is not relevant) the following statement is printed:11:43
Guest25> [ 0.191141] x86/cpu: SGX disabled by BIOS.11:43
Guest25typing `exit` in initramfs results in the following message:11:43
Guest25> Gave up waiting for root file system device. Common problems:11:43
Guest25>  - Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline)11:43
Guest25>    - Check rootdelay= (did the system wait long enough?)11:43
murmelugh, second one today :/11:49
murmelGuest25: do you have a live USB ready?11:49
murmelGuest25: btw, did you encrypt /boot? at least the way you wrote it, sounds like it11:50
Guest25murmel Yes I have a live USB. And I followed this instruction here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019 which encrypts boot11:52
murmelGuest25: so which means your second password entry fails?11:57
Guest25murmel I just type one password when starting. I don't have a second password to enter.11:59
murmelGuest25: can you post the real error you get after grub? because the things you posted shouldn't error like this out. (maybe even remove quiet splash)12:00
root__failed to execute default web browser12:06
root__please help12:06
lotuspsychje!rootirc | root__12:07
ubotturoot__: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.12:07
ogra!details | root__12:08
ubotturoot__: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.12:08
lotuspsychje!backup | elwisp can this help?12:09
ubottuelwisp can this help?: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup, !borg, and !cloning12:09
murmellotuspsychje: I mean he already back ups with borg12:10
lotuspsychjeoh i see, wasnt following before12:11
Guest25murmel to remove quiet splash, I change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in `/etc/default/grub` right? I do this from initramfs? or when starting with the old kernel? or with the live usb?12:12
murmelGuest25: you can edit the boot line by pressing e during the grub menu selection12:14
murmelso it will be only removed for 1 boot12:14
Guest25murmel ah yes, that is much easier. Is there a file share in this chat? What's the easiest way I can show you  a picture of the output?12:21
murmelimgbb.com / imgur.com12:21
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Guest25murmel great! here it is: https://ibb.co/8Y45QpN12:24
murmelGuest25: can you please try #5 from this bugreport? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/197915912:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1979159 in cryptsetup (Ubuntu Kinetic) "Cannot unlock encrypted root after upgrading to 22.04 due to use of non-standard ciphers" [Critical, Fix Released]12:30
BluesKajHi all12:41
zaggynlhi12:42
neoclusthi12:50
neoclustcan someone show me a valid sourcelist for jammy ? ( 22.04 )12:50
murmelneoclust: https://paste.debian.net/1254763/12:51
murmeledit mirror to your liking12:51
neoclustmurmel: thank you :-)12:53
SteelRoseis jammy finally working? last time I tested it, it was a complete failure...13:07
SteelRoseforget what I said... there's an IM tool with a similar name13:08
lotuspsychjeim getting a notify on ubuntu-desktop jammy pending update on snap-store and when i snap refresh cli getting an error its running; lotuspsychje@R00TB00K:~$ snap refresh snap-store13:21
lotuspsychjefout: cannot refresh "snap-store": snap "snap-store" has running apps13:21
lotuspsychje      (ubuntu-software), pids: 438613:21
ogralotuspsychje, kill 4386 ... then try again13:23
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lotuspsychjerunning, tnx ogra13:23
lotuspsychjealready reported so i see; bug #198901113:24
ubottuBug 1989011 in snap-store-desktop "snap app does not update" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198901113:24
ibn-batotdoes anyone consider to have "Ubuntu Professional Certification" ??13:32
zaggynlwikipedia says it's been discontinued13:33
ibn-batoti just finished reading it.13:33
ibn-batotwhere does it say so ?13:33
QNXHello, Ubuntu 22.04, locate does not work. No db gets built in chgrp: cannot access '/var/lib/plocate/plocate.db': No such file or directory13:34
QNXsame with mlocate database13:34
ibn-batotzaggynl yes u r right13:34
ibn-batotzaggynl then how can the proffesionality be mmeasured ?13:36
QNXUnfortunately, by default, it does go well with the BTRFS filesystem and its subvolumes (see, e.g., this bug), resulting in empty results for all searches basically.13:41
QNXhttps://www.lorenzobettini.it/2022/07/locate-and-btrfs/13:41
QNXhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plocate/+bug/1968190 here is the bug13:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1968190 in plocate (Ubuntu Jammy) "updatedb incompatible with btrfs subvolumes" [Undecided, Triaged]13:44
GSMarquisIs the Ubuntu image shipped on Dell dev laptop different than Ubuntu image?13:51
leftyfbGSMarquis: I think it's just the oem kernel with a bunch of their own repo's and packages installed13:51
GSMarquisCan you get ahold of it without having bought the said dev edition?13:52
SteelRoseGSMarquis:  you can always dowload an Ubuntu ISO and do a fresh install ... ;-)13:52
leftyfbGSMarquis: you'll have to contact Dell on that one13:52
GSMarquisI feel the fresh install from Ubuntu does not address specific sleep, power, and wifi areas13:53
leftyfbGSMarquis: I can almost guarantee the Dell repo's don't contain anything in the way of wifi drivers13:54
GSMarquisProb more of a preset configuration settings thing13:54
GSMarquisIn all my searchings I have only found the power edge server stuff13:56
leftyfbGSMarquis: call Dell13:57
GSMarquisYea.....I will see how far that gets me. Most likely stop with service tag.13:58
oerheksyou have a recovery icon on that dell desktop, to create such iso14:02
GSMarquisI did not buy the dev version. Just installed a new ssd and wanted Ubuntu. Its on there, just was looking for no-nonsense way of working 100% out of box. I will play with it and iron out my issues.14:05
lirodonhaving issues since the most recent kernel updates. running a system with an AMD Ryzen 2200G on integrated graphics, my computer is refusing to come back out of standby properly, and I have to do a hard reset in order to boot back into the OS.14:58
lirodon*on 20.04, 5.15.0-4814:59
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kotodamaarraybolt3: I think I found my culprit, https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21302315:02
ubottubugzilla.kernel.org bug 213023 in ACPI "Could not resolve symbol [\_PR.CPU0._CPC]" [High, Reopened]15:02
kotodamait seems to have been introduced around the same time I started at Canonical and there's been some back and forth with patches/reverts/new patches15:03
kotodamaindeed I don't have /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/acpi_cppc15:04
arraybolt3kotodama: Looks like the problem.15:04
arraybolt3ACPI issues are always messy. You *might* (and this is a big *might* since it's an unsupported solution and may disable features that you're used to having in your Ubuntu kernel), but you *might* try installing a mainline Linux kernel and see if that fixes it.15:04
kotodamaI'll try a 5.18.14 kernel15:04
kotodamahehe :)15:04
arraybolt3I'm pretty sure 5.18 is EOL, so running it from mainline isn't the best idea for security.15:05
kotodamaand it doesn't mean my wake up issues will be gone, it only talks about error messages15:05
kotodamaah indeed15:05
arraybolt35.19 is out and supported though, I beliebe.15:05
arraybolt3*believe15:05
kotodamawell, hopefully further versions still have the patch15:05
arraybolt3Almost certainly. The Linux kernel people take regressions pretty seriously.15:05
kotodamaI still need to update my bios though ^^15:06
kotodamahehe I can imagine15:06
kotodamathanks again for your support :315:06
arraybolt3Sure. I think getting rid of the error messages will help the sleep problem.15:06
arraybolt3ACPI is, IIRC, the part of your system that handles power management stuff like sleep.15:06
leftyfb!bug | lirodon15:07
ubottulirodon: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.15:07
arraybolt3lirodon: Probably report it as a Linux kernel bug.15:08
arraybolt3I'd report it against linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04.15:09
arraybolt3ER... no, wrong package name...15:09
arraybolt3linux-image-generic-hwe-20.0415:09
arraybolt3^^^ right package name most likely15:09
lirodonah alright15:14
eelstreborsince upgrading to ubuntu 22.04, i have been getting a lot of messages of held back packages. why is that?15:17
rbasakeelstrebor: https://askubuntu.com/a/1421130/780815:21
leftyfbeelstrebor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhasedUpdates15:21
eelstreborinteresting - always something new15:23
eelstrebori used apt install to install the held back packages. so far i haven't messed up my system. i guess i'll let the phased updates do their thing from now on.15:25
eelstreborsure are a lot of features for linux - i wish i had time to look through all of them - there are probably some that are useful for me but i usually don't find them unless i stuble across them when researching something else - for example, i discovered zram15:29
eelstrebori hope zram fixes my problems with firefox tabs crashing frequently.15:31
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Guest25murmel I managed to fix it now. When mounting the partitions in the live usb, I made the mistake to mount one partition not under the exact same name. Just found out due to the cryptsetup WARNING: `target 'nvme0n15' not found in /etc/crypttab`. Nevertheless the `"ubuntu-vg" not found` error still appears at startup, so apparently this was not the16:14
Guest25problem... Thanks a lot for your help!16:14
arraybolt3Guest25: Do you need help getting back into your system? I know what commands to type into the initramfs shell to get it back running.16:16
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Guest25arraybolt3 I fixed it now.  thanks for your offer.16:22
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mifaHow would I go about using the vanilla gnome shell with ubuntu?17:01
arraybolt3mifa: Probably just disable all of the GNOME extensions Ubuntu ships with by default. I just did that and it seems to work.17:04
arraybolt3(Though the Minimize buttons are still there I notice.)17:05
mifaDo I need to install gnome-session as well?17:05
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mrkubax10is there point of using ubuntu if you want to disable almost all of it's features?17:05
arraybolt3mifa: No clue. I don't really know the answer to this, the thing I thought would work didn't actually work all the way.17:05
arraybolt3mrkubax10: The Ubuntu Desktop experience is only a part of Ubuntu's usefulness, so if someone liked Ubuntu's internals but GNOME's usual look-and-feel, that makes sense to me.17:06
mrkubax10right17:06
arraybolt3(You also have Ubuntu's stability and internals, the Ubuntu kernel, five years of support, ability to shout for help in this channel, etc.)17:06
mifamrkubax10: I just like the more vanilla GNOME feel, but also want the 5 years of support and other stuff ubuntu provides.17:06
arraybolt3Funny thing is I've seen Ubuntu remixes sometimes go into vanilla GNOME shell mode when things go wrong or you fiddle with them just right, so I know this is doable. I don't want to fiddle around too much though since I actually like Ubuntu's default look and feel and don't want to break anything :)17:08
mifaI can't wait for 24.04 because gnome 43 looks pretty awesome so far.17:09
arraybolt3Anyway, stick around, someone here with more experience in this field might know the answer. (I may also go ahead and spin up an Ubuntu VM and see if I can fiddle with it to make it work the way you want.)17:09
arraybolt3?! Somehow I don't have the Ubuntu Jammy ISO on this system... I must have deleted the old one when 22.04.1 was released or something.17:10
* arraybolt3 downloads17:10
ogramifa, ubuntu only ships two extra extensions (and artwork) ... just disable them ... done17:13
arraybolt3ogra: I tried that and it still left the Minimize button enabled (which does weird things when the Ubuntu extensions are disabled). I wonder if a logout and login would rectify it?17:14
ogra(desktop icons and the panel)17:14
ograIIRC you can turn off the button in tweaks17:14
ogra(maximize as well)17:15
eN_Joyjust installed a new python3.10 upgrade, and got `Package 'python3.10-venv' has no installation candidate`....17:48
leftyfbeN_Joy: ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ; apt-cache policy python3.10-venv) | nc termbin.com 999917:52
eelstreborapparently, setting  up swap didn't fix my firefox problem - crashing tabs and sometimes the entire browser crashes17:54
Appolinaireany wisdom on installing steam. First it asked if I am running out of space. Nope using 150 of 500. Now You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run: --- shall I reinstall? I dont remember what to do with a *.deb file. (20.04)17:54
arraybolt3Appolinaire: I'd stop immediately. Some people accidentally shred their systems trying to install Steam.17:55
arraybolt3Appolinaire: It's possible that the .deb file is just wonky at the moment. Wait a day, then redownload it and try to install again.17:55
AppolinaireOK. but I dont know what to do with it. (&thanks for the headsup and will backup first. I am going to reinstall 22.04 on a reformatted hard drive.)17:56
Appolinairearraybolt3 ^^17:56
AppolinaireI am missing 17 libraries.17:57
arraybolt3Appolinaire: The way to install a .deb file that works for me most often is to open a terminal in the folder containing the .deb, and run "sudo apt install ./<name of deb file>.deb".17:57
Appolinairehow do I remove it?17:57
arraybolt3Appolinaire: If you have missing libraries, it's probably not installed at all.17:57
arraybolt3Appolinaire: Like, can you show the message you got from trying to install it?17:57
Appolinairegotcha. I think I want to remove it completely and then reinstall. But if I click steam I get the app and the sign in and that psrt.17:58
AppolinaireI did show you already.  It said it couldnt install it, am I running out of space on my hard drive. THen the other that I  copied - with a list of 17 libraries  - the dialog box was titled error and was black, not steam blue. OK not black, dark greyl.18:00
AppolinaireThen Steam in same color, sorry the game is not available for your setup.18:00
oerheks' sorry the game is not available for your setup.'  just is a message, not an error.18:01
AppolinaireYou might be right. Show applicatons no longer has steam18:02
AppolinaireI will do some more research by myself. Thanks arraybolt318:03
AppolinaireOIC I probably had the steam installer.18:04
Appolinaireif you care I am reading https://itsfoss.com/install-steam-ubuntu-linux/18:04
eN_Joythanks leftyfb !18:07
yo_hey guys!18:08
leftyfbeN_Joy: the command I gave you should result in a link that you should share here so we can help troubleshoot your issue18:09
eN_Joyleftyfb: I know, I thanked you for the kind reminding;-) I am a veteran user but can't believe I ignored such fundamentals lol!18:10
leftyfbeN_Joy: so I assume you resolved your issue? What was it?18:10
yo_this is my second day of trying linux!18:10
yo_im ubuntu user because i really like it18:11
leftyfbyo_: this is a support channel. If you'd like to chat, feel free to /join #ubuntu-offtopic18:11
yo_Oh sorry thanks18:11
eN_Joyleftyfb: not really solved... I am going to wait few more days for canonical to realize and fix the issue, in the mean time, I installed python3.11rc2 for immediate jobs...btw I am on `"22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish)"` and apt policy for `python3.10-venv:` showed `None` for both `Installed` and `Candidate`18:14
leftyfbeN_Joy: python3.10-venv is in the ubuntu 22.04 repo's18:15
leftyfbit's in jammy-updates, -security and /universe18:15
leftyfbversion 3.10.6-1~22.04 in -updates18:16
eN_JoyYes, I had it prior to today's upgrade, and it was removed with the upgrade...18:16
oerheksmaybe the previous venv was uninstalled?18:18
eN_Joyhttps://termbin.com/0htx18:18
leftyfbeN_Joy: to be clear, if you installed python3.11, that isn't supported by Canonical or here. 3.10 is available from the official repositories. If you're having issues with 3.11, you'll need to seek support from wherever you got it from18:19
oerhekstime to run apt update first..18:19
leftyfbah, WSL complicates things a bit as well18:19
leftyfbeN_Joy: either you have broken repo's or you're not running an officially supported release of ubuntu18:20
leftyfbor yeah, just need to run apt update18:20
eN_Joyalso https://termbin.com/i4wl18:21
oerhekslooks like phazed updates?18:23
eN_Joyoerheks: as leftyfb WSL can comlicate things... I had 3.11 from deadsnakes (luckily with venv) so I am good for now lol!18:24
leftyfboerheks: phased updates only apply when updating a package. It won't prevent it from showing as being available to install18:24
eN_Joys/comicate/complicate18:25
leftyfbeN_Joy: ok, just know, packages installed from deadsnakes is not supported by Canonical or here. If you'd like help figuring out what is wrong with your repo causing it to show python3.10-venv as not being available, we'd be happy to help you. I recommend trying to solve that because it should be in the -updates repo which you will most certainly need going forward18:26
oerheksleftyfb, i had the same situation, got notified to kill snapstore, then updates went through18:26
oerheksand deadsnakes ppa .. good luck, no support18:27
oerheksnow i got other updates pending..18:27
leftyfboerheks: snapstore caused an apt package to show as not available from the repositories?18:27
oerheksto be held back, yes.18:27
oerhekslike this18:27
oerhekshttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9QRs5ZkX3S/18:28
leftyfbheld back != Unable to locate package18:28
leftyfbnot that same issue18:28
oerheksi do not want to disable phazed updates, so i let it be.18:31
]BaTMaN[Hello18:48
oerheks:-)18:49
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w4v3|txHi, is there a possibility to mount a LVM drive with the same vg group but without using vgrename?18:56
w4v3|txI only found solution with using vgrename.18:56
w4v3|txs/solution/solutions18:57
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mbeierlAnyone know how to skip the "Welcome to Ubuntu" and the following screens on a fresh Ubuntu install?  I'm looking at doing a bulk VM deployment and don't want users to have to click through that19:01
oerheksmbeierl, nope. if you want to deploy such numbers, preseed is depreciated, it is cloud-init now.19:03
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mbeierloerheks, thanks.  This would be post cloud-init when the user first logs in, they have to walk through the first welcome and I was wondering if there was a flag somewhere that is set to skip it once it is completed, and if so, can that be set by me?19:08
mbeierlFinally found the term I was looking for, and got a hit to answer my question: https://www.putorius.net/disable-gnome-initial-setup.html19:12
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oerheksleftyfb, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.10/+bug/199058619:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1990586 in apt (Ubuntu) "22.04: python3* mismatched phasing breaks dist-upgrades" [Critical, In Progress]19:49
leftyfboerheks: I still don't think this is the same issue that eN_Joy has. It's not an issue with package updates, it's an issue with a package showing as not being available at all19:51
ReventlovHello.20:06
ReventlovAre the scripts used by Canonical to create the ubuntu desktop live USB available somewhere ?20:07
oerheksscripts to put the iso on usb?20:08
oerheks!usb20:08
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent20:08
Reventlovno20:08
Reventlovthe scripts used by Canonical to generate the .iso they make available online20:09
oerheksoh, how that is done i don;t know20:10
lirodonupdate on my AMD issue from earlier; noticed my motherboard's UEFI wasn't quite up to date so I ran an upgrade. Standby appears to work now, and I'm not getting this warning about firmware bugs on startup anymore either20:20
jhutchinsRunning Linux from a USB is painfully slow unless you use some of the RAM tricks to make it semi-resident.20:23
jhutchinsReventlov: http://pendrivelinux has some good information on building and optimizing your own.20:24
murmeli never tried it with a linux install on usb, but can't you just copy the whole install to ram?20:25
jhutchinsI can't think of anybody who's posted here who wasn't running on current x86 hardware.20:25
jhutchinsmurmel: Depends on your ram of course, but there are still tricks to get it to work.20:26
jhutchins(sorry for the non-sequiteur)20:26
murmeljhutchins: I assume it should work the same as with the live isos (where you just put toram into the grub entry)20:26
arraybolt3Calling for Bash wizard help, how do I make sed replace the string "kdedir ~/kde/usr" with "kdedir /usr"?20:44
arraybolt3I tried {s/kdedir\ ~\/kde\/usr/kdedir\ \/usr/} but it failed.20:45
arraybolt3"sed -e expression #1, char 17: unknown option to `s'" was the error.20:46
arraybolt3(You can probably tell I've never used sed before :) )20:46
oerheksleftyfb, again this silly ' close snap store bug'  https://imgur.com/gallery/7ysKGqv20:46
leftyfboerheks: dude, it is not related to eN_Joy's issue20:47
oerheksno, my issue..20:47
rbasakarraybolt3: sed 's|kdedir ~/kde/usr|kdedir /usr|'20:48
rbasakYou can use a different separator than / for cases like this20:48
arraybolt3rbasak: Oh nice, thank you!20:48
oerhekssudo pkill snap-store && sudo snap refresh snap-store .. still a ton of updates kept back20:50
murmeloerheks: I had to -9 otherwise it wouldn't update :S20:52
murmelnot sure why normal kill would suffice20:53
zulubeatzisikhathi sesidlulile ngokushesha okukhulu, isiphepho siletha ukucaca21:17
zulubeatzWanitwa Mos21:18
zulubeatzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHOfTAg77wE21:18
leftyfbzulubeatz: Ngicela ume. Lesi isiteshi sokusekela Ubuntu.21:19
zulubeatzsharp sharp mfeto21:20
arraybolt3leftyfb: FWIW, zulubeatz has been known for sharing links to inappropriate content, so it may be worth considering just calling !ops next time they come around.21:23
arraybolt3(Maybe we should make it an official rule that posting a YouTube link without good context is grounds for a ban? I mean, they only ever happen for bad reasons AFAIK.)21:25
leftyfbarraybolt3: you're assuming these people care about rules21:26
arraybolt3LOL no, I'm hoping we can make it easier to ban people without having to click on whatever crud they paste.21:27
arraybolt3(Last time they came around, I was on Matrix and saw a screenshot of the not-OK video and !ops'd it, but everyone on IRC didn't see it and so probably that's why they were never banned that I saw.)21:28
imiseems like lighttpd 1.4.63 has a bug that blocks me. can I expect that package to be upgraded to any newer versions?21:32
sarnoldimi: maybe in the next release21:39
imi:'(21:40
imiI'm going to hand-compile and overwrite an so then21:40
rbasakimi: you're more likely to get a cherry-pick of the specific bugfix you need. Please make sure a bug exists in Launchpad.21:40
rbasakimi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates21:40
imiok that's a great idea, thanks21:40
rbasakIf you know how to provide a packaging update with a cherry-pick in it, then https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure has the steps if you can volunteer them, and then we can fix it for all users.21:41
enigma9o7its already far too easy to bet banned21:44
imithis is a headless raspberry pi. can I stull use ubuntu-bug to report an issue?21:45
sarnoldyeah21:45
sarnoldit'll give you an url to use in a browser21:45
Rock202020Does this script syntax look functional and right? https://dpaste.com/AL2WLL8ZT.txt21:49
oerheks!crosspost21:50
ubottuPlease don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.21:50
Rock202020omg chill21:51
Rock202020its a 1 liner question21:51
Rock202020in 2 different channels21:51
sarnoldRock202020: try systemd-analyze verify on it21:51
Rock202020ty21:51
Rock202020What extension do I need to save it as?21:52
oerheks .yaml ?21:52
Rock202020.sh?21:52
murmeli rather wonder, why it's needed21:52
Rock202020It says it doesnt recognize the file21:53
Rock202020so im thinknig I may need to add an extension21:53
Rock202020'.service' is the answer21:53
oerhekseh no .service in  /lib/systemd/system/21:53
Rock202020Ok I ran it21:53
Rock202020nothing happened21:53
oerheksMake sure that your script is executable with: chmod u+x /path/to/spark/sbin/start-all.sh21:54
oerheksand replace that path21:54
Rock202020Where should I place my .service to run at boot?21:54
Rock202020"Configuration file /home/user/Desktop/hostnamerandomization.service is marked executable. Please remove executable permission bits. Proceeding anyway.  "21:54
oerhekssame place, service enable  something.service  makes it start on boot21:55
oerheksdo not place it in your home21:55
esvisn't it /etc/systemd/system ? after all, needs to run as root.21:55
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esvafter you place it there, run: systemctl daemon-reload && systemctl enable <filename>.service21:57
esvthe daemon-reload part is becoming optional but haven't seen it hurt anything.21:58
Rock202020https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/start-service-at-boot/21:58
Rock202020It works21:58
Rock202020It changed my hostname successfully21:58
Rock202020now to restart and test21:58
imiok I reported my issue, thanks21:59
oerhekswith hostnamectrl?21:59
Rock202020urd ortheks22:03
Rock202020yes22:03
Rock202020oerheks are you suprised?22:08

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