[01:17] <davef> lol, https://waxy.org/2022/09/a-mysterious-voice-is-haunting-american-airlines-in-flight-announcements-and-nobody-knows-how/
[01:24] <daftykins> classic :D
[10:43] <zxmpi_> well it's not the voice of the mysterons :-P
[10:43] <zxmpi_> sounds like someone who needs more fibre in their diet
[15:40] <davef> I've been watching people play this trombone champ.. there's WAY more to the game than I initially thought
[17:41] <penguin42> ?
[19:04] <daftykins> heh what like?
[19:41] <davef> there's a lot of random tasks you need to complete
[19:41] <davef> anyway, i've been playing return to monkey island myself. it's good old fashioned monkey island. how I remember it.
[19:54] <daftykins> :) never touched it back in the day
[19:55] <daftykins> my DB-15 female connector arrived from ebay, so i've cut off my Logitech speaker kit connector and am enjoying the fun of working out the wiring scheme
[20:47] <penguin42> hmm, DB-15, Model B A-D port?
[20:48] <daftykins> not familiar with the terms but i got a full 15 pin with screwdown terminals
[20:50] <penguin42> daftykins: https://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/bbc-micro/DSC08416.JPG
[20:51] <daftykins> oh nah, VGA clone - https://imgur.com/a/SDHJZgl
[20:53] <penguin42> oh! The 3 row
[20:53] <daftykins> mmhmm
[20:55] <penguin42> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-subminiature
[20:55] <daftykins> i figure i should tin these wire ends, i'm arranging lengths and trimming right now
[20:55] <penguin42> daftykins: So apparently I was talking about a DA-15 and you're talking about a DE-15
[20:56] <daftykins> confirmed pinout with a multimeter + paperclip
[20:56] <daftykins> ah ha :)
[20:58] <daftykins> this is insanely fiddly
[21:01] <penguin42> I've only done the 2 rows before and they're bad enough
[21:01] <penguin42> oh, it's got screwdown terminals? That's cheating - try it with a soldering iron without bridging to the neighbours
[21:02] <daftykins> lol
[21:02] <daftykins> thats why i bought this one xD
[21:06] <daftykins> do you thinkk tinning is mandatory?
[21:06] <daftykins> i suppose i'm doing that impatient thing of looking for shortcuts
[21:07] <penguin42> sometimes tinning will make it easier, no problem with one subwire going the wrong way 
[21:07] <penguin42> and making sure it's actually under the screw
[21:09] <daftykins> mmm stop the strands fraying
[21:16] <daftykins> yeah that's... pretty https://i.imgur.com/imlmw5Y.jpg
[22:06] <daftykins> couple more snaps, the short has gone :D https://imgur.com/a/SDHJZgl
[22:20] <daftykins> fixed \o/
[22:39] <penguin42> the order is....
[22:39] <daftykins> hmm?
[22:40] <daftykins> well, i have introduced some idle noise but eh, so much better than it was
[22:40] <penguin42> oh the pin order on the connector blocks is just a bit crazy
[22:42] <daftykins> it's certainly not standard
[22:42] <penguin42> daftykins: Perhaps get yourself some cable with some screened pairs
[22:43] <daftykins> oh i'd never replace the entire run from end to end xD that would be one heck of a job
[22:43] <penguin42> oh, so what did you replace?
[22:43] <daftykins> purely the VGA style connector on the end
[22:44] <daftykins> word has it that they filled the connector up with a material that with age began to conduct
[22:46] <daftykins> i only discovered this by chance due to a youtube post :D
[22:46] <penguin42> oh, that was silly
[22:47] <penguin42> https://mastodon.org.uk/system/media_attachments/files/109/055/799/125/060/546/original/14d7edea63ce1bd1.png
[22:47] <penguin42> hadn't expected mains to vary that much
[22:48] <daftykins> wow
[22:49] <daftykins> here's the set btw, Logitech's Z-5500, very common and probably nudging 20 years old by now - https://expertreviews.b-cdn.net/sites/expertreviews/files/styles/er_main_wide/public/images/dir_241/er_photo_120514.jpg
[22:50] <penguin42> oh so is that 15 way a big hydra lead going to all the speakers?
[22:51] <daftykins> nah the control pod with the display weirdly takes the inputs and then the DAC is inside, it then pipes it over the cable to the amplifier board in the subwoofer box
[22:51] <penguin42> oh, curious
[22:51] <daftykins> the sub has the main power supply and speaker connections too
[22:54] <daftykins> the back of the sub box looks like this - https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/attachments/logitech_z5500_3-jpg.35541/
[22:54] <daftykins> not sure if that works
[22:54] <penguin42> I guess it has the space and it might be good to keep the amp near the sub anyway
[22:55] <daftykins> yeah, aside from the shaking to the main filter caps etc xD but they're glued down well
[22:55] <penguin42> apparently that glue is the same stuff that might get conductive over time
[22:56] <daftykins> hehe
[22:56] <daftykins> years ago before i discovered the true culrpit, i took apart the sub and poked around
[22:57] <daftykins> not enough experience to get anywhere though