[00:11] <Intelo> I already `sudo umount /dev/mapper/sdb3` but `sudo fsck.ext4 -pf /dev/mapper/sdb3`  says /dev/mapper/sdb3 is in use. Any clues? its an open luks encrypted partition. Does not shows in `df` or `/proc/mount`. If I reboot, open luks partition again, it will automound and open in thunar. then I will umount and land to same situation
[00:14] <Bashing-om> cross post: Intelo "Try to identify: ' sudo fuser -m /dev/mapper/sdb3 ; ps auxw | grep <that PID> ' ."
[00:14] <oerheks> jsut wait for fsck to finish
[00:14] <oerheks> maybe it will never..
[00:14] <sarnold> the "filesystem is in use" thing prevents fsck from starting
[00:15] <oerheks> why abort such action?
[00:15] <oerheks> i hope you have a backup of your precious data :-D
[00:16] <sarnold> because filesystem implementations in the kernel are extremely brittle; if you change the disk while the device is mounted, you can do *anything* to the computer
[00:16] <oerheks> lets see what happens in @linux
[00:17] <lorenzo> hi. i need help with a thing, please.
[00:17] <lorenzo> i'm using teamspeak 3, and i have "push to talk" option
[00:17] <Intelo> I had drive sdb.  sdb3 was encrypted parition. I luks open i to . it shoudl be now /dev/mapper/sdb3. but it mounted the real os  to /dev/vgxubuntu/root
[00:17] <lorenzo> when i have my click on teamspeak, it's working. when i have my click (mouse) on desktop, isn't working
[00:17] <Intelo> solved but i wonder
[00:18] <oerheks> lorenzo, so teamspeak prop software wants you to keep focus?
[00:18] <Intelo> Is fsck.ext4 -c best for deep scan?
[00:19] <lorenzo> oerheks, yes. i just want to use teamspeak in background
[00:19] <lorenzo> when teamspeak is in background, i can't use my microphone
[00:21] <lorenzo> i'm new on linux and  I think i need to run teamspeak with "run administrator"
[00:21] <oerheks> lorenzo, sorry to hear that, contact the maintainer?
[00:21] <lorenzo> it's not from maintener. it's from my linux
[00:21] <lorenzo> i need to give all permisions...
[00:21] <oerheks> never run such as administrator, bad idea
[00:21] <lorenzo> and i don't know how to do that.
[00:22] <sarnold> you almost certainly don't need to do that; I've never used teamspeak but it doesn't feel like the sort of software that would require admin privs -- it doesn't even feel like it'd work well, since running GUI programs as other users is usually pretty difficult
[00:23] <lorenzo> ok, I understand...
[00:23] <lorenzo> thank you, guys!
[00:29] <Oski146> hello can i know when kernel 5.20 with amd support is coming? i still cant await it that the support gets wider
[00:30] <murmel> Oski146: wrong channel for that. and 6.0 will be probably released this sunday or next.
[00:31] <Oski146> which cannel can i go
[00:31] <Oski146> channel*
[00:31] <sarnold> Oski146: kinetic will be released in a month with 5.19. probably the next ubuntu release in april will have a newer kernel. *maybe* there'll be a newer HWE kernel for jammy before then, but I'm not sure
[00:32] <Oski146> lk thsnkd for the explanation :)
[00:32] <Oski146> thanks*
[00:32] <murmel> sarnold: nah, 5.19 will come out when 22.04.2 gets released (which is around april?)
[00:32] <murmel> i mean released for 22.04
[00:33] <Oski146> oh that late?
[00:33] <sarnold> murmel: 5.19 is available in kinetic *today* https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux
[00:33] <Intelo> Is fsck.ext4 -c best for deep scan? how do I fix and scan in depth?
[00:33] <sarnold> Intelo: best is to switch to zfs and then you can run online scrubs
[00:33] <murmel> sarnold: yes. I was talking jammy
[00:34] <Intelo> sarnold oh whats online scrub?
[00:34] <Intelo> sarnold and is zfs better than ext4?
[00:34] <Oski146> i heard 5.20 would have amd  ryzenfirmware support so i cant download the kernel 5.19. on arch and such is not supported yet. can you give me the channel name that i candiscuss on the right place?
[00:34] <sarnold> Intelo: zfs can repair faults without taking the filesystem offline
[00:35] <murmel> Oski146: maybe ##linux ?
[00:35] <Oski146> thanks
[00:36] <oerheks> 5.19 gives zen support, it cripples performance with 50%++
[00:36] <oerheks> due to retbleet
[00:37] <Intelo> sarnold like it can repair on a mounted partition?
[00:37] <oerheks> sorry to tell you
[00:37] <Intelo> sarnold and is zfs better than ext4?
[00:37] <murmel> Intelo: depends who you ask
[00:38] <Intelo> what sarnold has to say?
[00:38] <Intelo> murmel which one is latest?
[00:38] <sarnold> Intelo: It Depends :) I really prefer zfs for storing a lot of data; but ext4 is easier to use on a machine with only one disk
[00:38] <murmel> Intelo: latest of what
[00:39] <Intelo> modern, better, etc murmel
[00:39] <Intelo> sarnold ok
[00:39] <oerheks> encryption and filerecovery is interesting
[00:40] <Intelo> $ sudo fsck.ext4 -c /dev/mapper/sdb3
[00:40] <Intelo> e2fsck 1.45.5 (07-Jan-2020)
[00:40] <Intelo> ./dev/mapper/sdb3 is in use.
[00:41] <oerheks> why sdb3?
[00:41] <Intelo> its luks
[00:41] <oerheks> it should be something like this; sudo e2fsck -v /dev/mapper/luks-ID
[00:41] <oerheks> but this has been told before..
[00:42] <Intelo> oerheks same message on that too
[00:42] <Intelo> $ sudo cryptsetup close /dev/mapper/sdb3
[00:42] <Intelo> Device /dev/mapper/sdb3 is still in use.
[00:43] <Newtown12> hi, I'm trying to encrypt my storage device (eMMC) with LUKS. The GUI Lubuntu Installer Encrypt Option, uses aes-128, xts, plain64.
[00:43] <Newtown12> I'd like to use a different cipher
[00:43] <Newtown12> Is there a way I can change the cipher option for LUKs
[00:44] <Intelo> Bashing-om ' sudo fuser -m /dev/mapper/sdb3 ;  shows nothing
[00:44] <oerheks> no, somthing like `/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv ,, sdb3 is useless
[00:44] <oerheks> lolz
[00:45] <Intelo> how do I unuse it
[01:25] <Intelo> I think I have bad blocks. What should I do? Is that the reason of browsers and apps crashing?  https://imgur.com/9iba2Zk.png
[01:30] <sarnold> Intelo: what does your dmesg output look like?
[01:31] <sarnold> 719 errors sure feels like you'll see a *lot* of block IO errors in dmesg
[01:31] <Oski146> like in other channel stated from someone replace the drive
[01:33] <sarnold> yeah if it's throwing this many bad blocks it's way past time to replace it
[01:34] <Oski146> yeah :
[01:34] <leftyfb> Intelo: please do not cross-post. And as has been suggested, replace the drive
[01:36] <Intelo> can you talk in #linux
[01:37] <Intelo> sarnold ok
[01:38] <Intelo> sarnold https://termbin.com/bsj6
[01:43] <sarnold> Intelo: make backups immediately; this might be bad cable, bad motherboard, bad sata controller, bad power supply, but it is almost certainly a failing hard drive.
[01:43] <sarnold> Intelo: I recommend replacing this drive immediately after your backups are complete.
[01:44] <sarnold> Intelo: do not overwrite previous backups with backups from this drive now -- your old backups may be your only copy of the data at this point.
[01:44] <Intelo> I see. I have 2 ssd. the one showing above is luks encrypted one. The ssd on which the os is; has no such errors
[01:45] <Intelo> so I guess it can't be ram, cpu, power? Its ssd specific?
[01:45] <Intelo> btw, all this started after I installed 2 more sticks of ram on top of 2 existing (contrary indication to what I said above)
[01:45] <leftyfb> Intelo: please stop cross-posting. Pick a channel and stick with it
[01:45] <Intelo> sarnold don't know how to exactly know whats wrong here
[01:46] <leftyfb> Intelo: replace the drive
[01:46] <Intelo> sarnold can we talk in #linux?
[01:46] <sarnold> Intelo: heh, I'm in too many channels already :/
[01:46] <Intelo> except #linux :)
[01:47] <Intelo> leftyfb why can't we have more audience for same question in multi channel?
[01:47] <Intelo> are these just rules
[01:47] <leftyfb> Intelo: it's rude and confusing and a duplication of efforts
[01:48] <Intelo> leftyfb I never understood the raionale but ok.
[01:48] <FigNewton18> Hi, I read Ubuntu uses "Frequency checking" to detect attacks on encrypted data? is this true?
[01:48] <FigNewton18> Also, whats the performance difference between Ubuntu and Lubuntu
[01:59] <enigma9o7> fig, thats kinda hard to quantify
[02:00] <enigma9o7> there was a recent article showing startup memory usage with various ubuntu flavors, and ubuntu/gnome used twice as much memroy as lubuntu/lxqt.
[02:01] <enigma9o7> but then of course apps are all the same memory usage, and there's other things besides memory usage to consider
[02:01] <enigma9o7> if you are using an old pc (10+ years) gnome is noticably slower.  on a modern fast pc, you wouldnt even notice.
[02:01] <enigma9o7> its all relative.
[02:03] <enigma9o7> and for everyone has who has something between 10 years slow and modern fast, its personal preference mainly
[03:05] <usuario> good night
[03:06] <usuario> i need a registration code
[03:24] <esv> for?
[05:44] <ddww> oh noes!
[05:44] <Intelo> apt error: https://imgur.com/wIEBKEd.png
[05:47] <murmel> wow, what an old kernel(-module)
[06:03] <Oski146> why do you use ubuntu focal fossa?
[06:04] <murmel> Oski146: some people don't want to upgrade when the new release hits
[06:04] <Oski146> but its a vbox
[06:04] <murmel> maybe some testing, production server idk xD
[06:04] <Oski146> ah ok :D
[06:05] <Oski146> kernel 5.4 is from 2020 i think
[06:06] <Oski146> 5.13 olde then?
[06:07] <murmel> focal never used 5.13 (afair), so no idea what's going on
[06:08] <BUSY> if i want to break desktop audio into 'channels' for separate recording streams, is pulseaudio the right choice?
[06:10] <Oski146> ok
[06:11] <Oski146> can someone help me with the question, if theres a alternative software to minuet from kde?
[06:24] <murmel> Oski146: next time, alternativeto.net :) https://alternativeto.net/software/kde-minuet/?license=opensource
[06:24] <murmel> doesn't sound good :/
[06:55] <ibn-batot> what should i do when i get this ==>> "http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security InRelease Temporary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com"
[06:55] <murmel> ibn-batot: is it only security.ubuntu.com?
[06:56] <ibn-batot> i sent u in /msg what i got
[06:56] <murmel> sounds like your dns is broken
[06:56] <murmel> can you ping a domain?
[06:58] <ibn-batot> i am using ubuntu on vmware
[06:58] <murmel> please stop msg me. keep it here in the chat. additionally yes your dns seems to be shot. sorry don't know enough to help you
[06:59] <ibn-batot> ok murmel
[07:08] <Princess15> Hi guys, I want to use a different cipher instead of aes to encrypt my Linux OS, how can I set my custom LUKs settings, I'd like to switch from aes to serpent or twofish for LUKS, how do I accomplish this?
[07:08] <Intelo> Failed to load R0 module /usr/lib/virtualbox/VMMR0.r0: Unable to locate imported symbol 'SUPR0FpuBegin' for module 'VMMR0.r0'
[07:10] <murmel> Princess15: you would need to setup the partitions yourself, and then during the installer, select manual and assign the correct paths to the partitions
[07:11] <saltd> she will figure this out
[07:13] <Princess15> sBut
[07:13] <Princess15> So should I do a Linux OS install via COmmand line?
[07:13] <Princess15> Will this take 30 minutes of precise commands
[07:14] <murmel> Princess15: you would need to create the luks containers in cli, but the rest you can do through gui
[07:17] <Princess15> So I create the luks container upon live usb boot up
[07:17] <murmel> Princess15: first partitions, then containers
[07:17] <Princess15> hmmmm
[07:26] <murmel> Princess15: is there a reason why you want to use serpent/twofish?
[07:27] <Princess15> I think aes is more likely to be decryptable due to increased research due to mass usage.
[07:27] <Princess15> Thus, a less popular cipher might not have enhanced decryption capabilities
[07:27] <Princess15> due to lack of study
[07:28] <Princess15> on the cipher
[07:30] <murmel> Princess15: but you do realize, because aes is also more popular more eyes look at it to secure it better?
[07:30] <Princess15> yeah
[07:30] <Princess15> I realize that
[07:30] <Princess15> but AES is so much more used
[07:31] <Princess15> Its just a giant honeypot
[07:31] <Princess15> waiting for a decryption method
[07:31] <Princess15> I'd estimate, and Im sure you can find the data, that 80% of encrypted traffic is AES
[07:31] <Princess15> HTTPS, OPenVPN, etc
[07:31] <Princess15> of course theres camelia, wireguard now
[07:31] <Princess15> But just
[07:31] <Princess15> Majority is AES
[07:32] <Princess15> its a mega decryption target
[07:32] <murmel> Princess15: please use enter less often
[07:33] <murmel> Yes I get that. but at least with the disk encryption I have it in my hands, if aes would ever get broken, I can reinstall within half an hour (with a different enc)
[07:34] <Princess15> Yeahm thats what i want to do, install  another os
[07:36] <Intelo> How to run virtualbox? Failed to load R0 module /usr/lib/virtualbox/VMMR0.r0: Unable to locate imported symbol 'SUPR0FpuBegin' for module 'VMMR0.r0'
[07:37] <murmel> Intelo: literally the first search engine entry for the error message https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=104378
[07:37] <murmel> please try to first search for a solution yourself
[07:51] <Intelo> murmel  you gooogle ANY question asked here and you will get a result on google.
[07:51] <Intelo> murmel take a positve water bath.
[07:53] <Intelo> murmel if you cannot solve any problem, don't ping others for no reason.
[07:53] <Intelo> if things were like that. All the planet would use google. no place for irc. btw, I did read that link.
[07:53] <Intelo> already
[08:39] <maaxinee> hi, my external hard drive has been corrupted during data migration. how can I recover the files in the external hdd?
[08:44] <skuntee4> try to do a 'dd' of the disk to another disk. then try to repair the partition with fsck etc otherwise you'll need a raw disk scan to try to recover thing...but i'm not sure undelete will work.
[08:44] <skuntee4> it work well for wronly deleted files as long as there was no read/write ops in between.
[09:41] <murmel> maaxinee: don't write anything to that disk, and look into photorec (besides its name it recovers more than that)
[11:35] <Intelo> unable to trace the reasons of getting all sorts of browser crashes in box OS. How to exactly find out reason?  https://imgur.com/i096l7F.png   https://termbin.com/iago0    https://termbin.com/ehxp
[11:36] <Intelo> s/box/ubuntu22
[11:53] <Guest3> hi
[12:12] <ogra> Intelo, that looks pretty trashed ... your package status file is corrupt (are you out of diskspace ?), something seems to have installed a wrong glibc (some third parts repo ??) this looks like you should re-install
[12:13] <ogra> *third party
[12:13] <imi> is there a howto regarding how do I boot ubuntu from an external hdd on raspberry pi 2?
[12:18] <ravage> the pi2 does not boot from USB
[12:21] <imi> ravage: well, it boots from an sd card, and then maybe you can make the hdd the rootfs somehow. Is there a howto?
[12:21] <ravage> im sure thars possible
[12:22] <ravage> copy the files to the hDD. find the partition is wirth blkid and edit your cmdline
[12:22] <ravage> *find the partition UUID with blkid
[13:01] <ubadmin> hi
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:17] <saltd> hi one
[14:35] <Guest95> does ubuntu come with command tools for zip and rar files? and if i need to install them, are these correct tools: rar, unrar, zip, unzip? and i install them like this: sudo apt-get install rar unrar ?
[14:36] <wez> Guest95: Correct on all counts, but why are you asking this question instead of just running the commands?
[14:37] <rob0> I bet you have at least zip/unzip by default.
[14:37] <ravage> Guest95, p7zip-full supports all of the above
[14:38] <wez> rob0: generally tar by default, depends on the packages installed
[14:39] <Guest95> thanks! i just want to be sure, so i don't spiral down the wrong rabbit hole
[14:40] <wez> Guest95: OK
[14:45] <Guest95> each of these will do only one file type? i mean unzip works on zip, and unrar works on rar? so i need to know which is which file type? thing is i am trying to untangle a big mess here with both zip and rar files in the same folder
[14:46] <ravage> it helps to read what has been written to you already
[14:48] <rob0> Typically zip and rar archives include the file type in the filename.
[14:49] <rob0> And shell globbing can easily distinguish them: "unrar *.rar", "unzip *.zip".
[14:50] <rob0> Note that those commands might be dangerous, as one archive could overwrite what another one contained.
[14:54] <Guest95> can i use p7zip to unrar or unzip a dozen files in one go? i want to extract all archives at once, each to its own folder, if possible.
[14:55] <sau> hi I have question about snap Freemind on Ubuntu
[14:55] <sau> Can anyone please help me
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> sau: contact:   https://launchpad.net/~jibel
[14:56] <wez> sau: Hi, what's the issue?
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> sau: the ubuntu volunteers cant help much on external maintained snaps
[14:56] <sau> I see
[14:57] <sau> just a general question.. is it possible to create a snap connexion for an app?
[14:57] <sau> or does the creator do that?
[14:58] <sau> the issues is that Freemind does not connect to external drive.
[14:59] <sau> when I checked the snap connections, it seems freemind app does not provide a connexion
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> sau: did you check permissions on the snap in gnomes settings?
[14:59] <sau> yes, I did> snap connections freemind
[15:01] <sau> I think snap freemind does not provide a slot
[15:01] <sau> or plug.. I am not sure what it is called
[15:02] <ioria> sau, have you tried with :removable-media ?  e.g.  sudo snap connect freemind:removable-media
[15:03] <sau> error: snap "freemind" has no plug named "removable-media"
[15:03] <ioria> ok
[15:04] <sau> I am guessing the creator (jean baptiste lallement) has to include the plug, right?
[15:04] <sau> or is it something the app users can do?
[15:05] <ioria> maybe not
[15:06] <sau> I see.. anyway, thank you ioria, lotuspsychje &  wez,
[15:06] <ioria> no prob
[15:06] <sau> bye now.
[15:06] <ioria> try #snappy or some snap channel
[15:11] <user___> dbylf
[15:30] <Slartibart> I haven't run virtualbox in a while but trying now, on 22.04. When I try to start the VM virtualbox says I need to run 'modprobe vboxdrv'. Problem is it isn't allowed, 'Lockdown: modprobe: unsigned module loading is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7'. Anyone managed to solve it?
[15:39] <oerheks> Slartibart, did you reboot after install, so the dkms builded the module?
[15:41] <Slartibart> oerheks: Yes, it's been a couple of ubuntu versions now since I installed virtualbox. Could it be worth reinstalling, to test?
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> Slartibart: virtualbox has several issues/bugs on jammy currently, several users have been reporting
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> might be worth browsing latest bugs and help affecting them
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> Slartibart: this was one for hirsute; bug #1929442
[16:45] <Slartibart> lotuspsychje: Thanks, will look into them.
[16:50] <jhutchins> Does Ubuntu have an equivalent of Debian's virt-manager for managing KVM instances?
[16:51] <ravage> sudo apt install virt-manager
[16:51] <jhutchins> !info virt-manager
[16:51] <jhutchins> Ah, just no dedicated factoid.
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> !kvm
[16:53] <jhutchins> !virt-manager
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> jhutchins: always some nice tuts exist on linuxconfig; https://linuxconfig.org/install-and-set-up-kvm-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux
[17:38] <jhutchins> Virtualbox did great for me, but it was hosted on Windows.
[17:38] <jhutchins> VMWare workstation was worse than useless.
[17:38] <jhutchins> (That was several years ago when it was only available in 32b.)
[18:27] <Slartibart> lotuspsychje: It worked, virtualbox is happy again. Thanks a bunch.
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> Slartibart: that reccomend from that bug solved it?
[18:28] <Slartibart> lotuspsychje: Yeah, reinstalling linux-headers-generic and virtualbox-dkms
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> +1
[20:24] <skySurfer49> #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:30] <Reventlov> hey
[20:30] <Reventlov> What could be delaying a boot for minutes (i'm still waiting) in the /script/init-premount phase ?
[20:31] <Reventlov> ( https://i.imgur.com/H7pdd0z.png, Ubuntu 22.04, custom iso )
[20:53] <mybalzitch> what did you customize ?
[20:56] <johnny_linux> prolly on an old lappy with "pre-load"
[20:56] <johnny_linux> with 5g of swap
[20:56] <johnny_linux> lol
[20:57] <johnny_linux> people dont think anymore.. im quiet.
[21:01] <Reventlov> mybalzitch: right now, not much. It seems the behaviour changes if I remove the splash option from grub.
[21:09] <johnny_linux> interesting.. intel 2006
[21:12] <johnny_linux> pardon me, but with all that "vga" seems like a graphics problem. just sayin.
[21:13] <Reventlov> muted.
[21:15] <johnny_linux> of course im guessing
[21:15] <jhutchins> Reventlov: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-analyze.html
[21:15] <jhutchins> Reventlov: Got any network devices?
[21:15] <jhutchins> Reventlov: Network shares?
[21:31] <Intelo> sarnold as you suggested zfs over ext4, I can go with it. What is the best way to convert the FS without loosing data? do I need to shift the data to another drive? (don't want that..)
[21:31] <Intelo> zfs, as you said, there is no need to turn off the system to check and repair it. That is good!
[21:40] <murmel> Intelo: you would need to backup and format, there is no way to convert
[21:45] <Intelo> murmel no offense. put me on ignore
[21:46] <Reventlov> jhutchins: nope. It seems the main problem is gdm does not start, which means I see this message (I still can go to another tty and look at what happens)
[21:46] <Reventlov> and gdm does not start because there is no gdm user…
[21:46] <Reventlov> why on earth the gdm user is not created is another question
[21:48] <Reventlov> https://i.imgur.com/GhqPDcH.png
[21:48] <johnny_linux> like i said, either you upgraded or have graphics problems... just sayin.
[21:49] <murmel> Intelo: you do realize, you can just put me on ignore. idc if you can read my stuff or not
[21:50] <Intelo> ya best you put but either way ok
[21:50] <Intelo> murmel how about just stop responding to me or putting me on ignore?
[21:50] <johnny_linux> murmel,  fustration comes in many levels, dont take it personel .
[21:51] <Intelo> Ya don't take personal but do take /ignore intelo
[21:51] <murmel> johnny_linux: nah i i am not frustrated. i just don't like people who don't have a brain
[21:51] <murmel> Intelo: just /ignore murmel and you are good to go
[21:51] <johnny_linux> be easy.
[21:51] <Intelo> murmel I don't like negative people either.
[21:52] <murmel> Intelo: one more reason to put me on ignore ;)
[21:52] <Intelo> I hate people based on what is in their control. Not of what they have natrually. Thats the difference between you and me. murmel
[21:53] <Intelo> murmel ok, consider yourself on ignore because you won't put me on ignore. (I can feel negativitty and stubborrneess from far away. You are not that kind)
[21:53] <murmel> finally
[21:54] <Intelo> some people just do not let it go. do not change. keep hurting people, poking people even if they are not welcomed,
[21:54] <Intelo> just to prove they have brain and others don't. just to prove they (HUH) are smarter.
[21:54] <ravage> i dont know if libera has a room for #childcare but that would be the place to continue this conversation
[21:54] <Intelo> and others should do, think, google, act, in the way what they think is ok
[21:55]  * Intelo backsup
[21:55] <johnny_linux> self control = maturity.
[21:55] <Intelo> hence the backup
[21:55] <Intelo> patience is tough :)
[21:56] <Intelo> some people you just want to murder
[21:56]  * Intelo appologies from all including murmel