[03:35] <Oski146> is there any alternative to minuet? seems like its not maintained anymore
[04:47] <Oski146> 1morehelp
[04:47] <Oski146> !morehelp
[20:02] <guitarman> does anyone else have a behringer um2 and can you get it working on ubuntustudio?
[20:02] <Eickmeyer> guitarman: Yeah! I have one and it works perfectly.
[20:02] <guitarman> Eickmeyer: weird it's not recognized on the liveusb
[20:02] <Eickmeyer> Out of the box, no issues.
[20:03] <Eickmeyer> Then I can only assume you have a hardware issue. It's a class-compliant device that doesn't require a driver.
[20:04] <guitarman> Eickmeyer: yeah, it worked on manjaro before windows hosed my grub
[20:04] <guitarman> on a windows update
[20:04] <guitarman> so i'm looking at redoing the machine
[20:04] <Eickmeyer> Try switching USB cables, ports, trying it on a different machine. All I know is that device will work on Ubuntu Studio.
[20:04] <guitarman> Eickmeyer: ok sounds good
[20:05] <guitarman> it works on windows so i don't think it's the cable.
[20:05] <guitarman> but yeah different machine i could try
[20:05] <Eickmeyer> It's got to be something. I know it's not Ubuntu (or Studio by extension).
[20:06] <guitarman> yeah.  i made a youtube video a while ago stating it worked fine on debian (years ago) and people in the comments were saying it wasn't working on linux mint etc.
[20:06] <Eickmeyer> I've used my UM2 on several machines with Ubuntu Studio, no issues. I also have a UMC404HD, no issues.
[20:06] <guitarman> have you tried the um2 on jammy jellyfish?
[20:07] <Eickmeyer> Jammy Jellyfish and now Kinetic Kudu. I lead Ubuntu Studio, so I have no choice but to test it on latest/pre-release.
[20:07] <guitarman> Eickmeyer: ok this is excellent
[20:07] <guitarman> thank you.  I'll nuke and pave and give it a go
[20:08] <Eickmeyer> Good luck! The UMC202 is also good (and inexpensive) so if it comes to that you might try it.
[20:08] <Eickmeyer> In fact, it's better in many respects.
[20:08] <guitarman> Eickmeyer: yeah i think that's the one with the midas pres instead of xenix which are more noisy
[20:08] <guitarman> re the umc202
[20:08] <Eickmeyer> Oh yes, the midas pres alone make it worth it. In fact, that might be what I actually have, now that I think of it.
[20:09] <Eickmeyer> But, the UM202 should still work, so I don't know why you're having difficulty.
[20:09] <Eickmeyer> Could also be your Xenyx pres are shot, those are known to be flaky.
[20:09] <guitarman> works fine in windows - not the best interface but suitable for now for me to make my covers with acoustic and voice.
[20:10] <Eickmeyer> Ah, gotcha.
[20:10] <guitarman> i'd like to get back on linux though so i'll give it a go
[20:10] <Eickmeyer> Still, it's a class-compliant device, and Linux just works (tm) with it.
[20:33] <guitarman> Eickmeyer: got it going in the ubuntu studio config area - didn't notice the usb devices tab
[20:34] <guitarman> ardour still crashes but i think that's because it's trying to do realtime and can't on the live environment maybe?
[20:34] <guitarman> audacity works wit hti though
[20:34] <Eickmeyer> guitarman: You mean Studio Controls? I didn't know you were using Jack.
[20:34] <guitarman> Eickmeyer: yes
[20:34] <guitarman> jack
[20:34] <Eickmeyer> Ah, that explains it.
[20:34] <guitarman> how do you mean
[20:35] <Eickmeyer> Jack (the Jack Audio Connection Kit), if started by Studio Controls, will recognize and automatically connect any USB device, but not if it's started through another means like by Ardour.
[20:35] <guitarman> i can't get ardour to use it - it crashes
[20:35] <guitarman> something about realtime is mentioned
[20:36] <guitarman> even if i've already started studio controls
[20:36] <Eickmeyer> Ardour needs to be closed completely before starting Jack. Once Jack is started by Studio Controls, open Ardour, start a new session, and have it connect to Jack (not ALSA).
[20:36] <guitarman> i'll close it and try again
[20:40] <ubuntustudio> Eickmeyer: I get this: 
[20:40] <ubuntustudio> Could not create session in "/home/ubuntu-studio/Untitled-2022-09-24-13-39-52"
[20:40] <ubuntustudio> ---ERROR: JACK: Cannot create thread res = 1
[20:40] <ubuntustudio> ERROR: JACK: JackClient::AcquireSelfRealTime error
[20:40] <ubuntustudio> ERROR: JACK: Cannot use real-time scheduling (RR/5) (1: Operation not permitted)
[20:40] <ubuntustudio> jack was started already
[20:40] <ubuntustudio> in studio controls before i went in
[20:41] <ubuntustudio> is that because i'm in the live environment
[20:41] <Eickmeyer> ubuntustudio: Yes.
[20:41] <ubuntustudio> ok so if i was to install to disk it wouldn't do that
[20:41] <Eickmeyer> The live environment isn't set up for real-time scheduling.
[20:41] <Eickmeyer> Yes.
[20:41] <ubuntustudio> ok cool
[20:41] <ubuntustudio> thanks for your help - I really appreciate it
[20:41] <Eickmeyer> Quite welcome.