[08:26] bug confirmed by another friend [14:31] It's possible that lightdm requires one of the missing stanzas, while other DMs do not require it. [14:31] You could check which line makes the difference (starting from mate.desktop, changing Exec=i3), or you could directly file a bug against lightdm [14:35] I've looked at that already [14:36] And you found the line? [14:36] didn't find anything obviously missing eyeballing i3.desktop against mate.desktop and jw.desktop [14:37] Does it work if you start with mate.desktop and change just the Exec line to i3? [14:37] also, it's exactly the same file I had in 20.04 and lightdm has only received 2 minor updates since then [14:38] I just tried apt install i3 in jammy-mate and it worked fine for me [14:38] I selected it from the login screen and I'm now seeing the first configuration dialog [14:40] was the background of t he lightdm entries garbled ? [14:41] no [14:42] not even sure if that's related tbh, I haven't messed about with that yet [14:42] https://paste.debian.net/plainh/c6aa72d6 [14:42] is your i3.desktop file the same ? [14:43] this is what 22.04 dropped in/usr/shar/xsessions after nuking and reinstalling i3 [14:43] oh wait I might have done a forced reinstall [14:43] but I do remember my friend's file being the same [14:48] purged, removed the files myself, reinstalled i3, nothing was put back into /usr/share/xsessions now lightdm can only find mate [15:01] i3 installs i3-wm which has the session file [15:01] If i3-wm is missing for you, something is wrong [15:02] the packages are installed [15:02] My i3.desktop is termbin.com/2wyi [15:02] it's i3.desktop that didn't get put back in [15:02] Use `sudo dpkg -V` to discover if you manually deleted files that you shouldn't have [15:03] For example if you rm /usr/share/xsessions/i3.desktop, and then you apt install --reinstall i3, you're causing issues [15:03] As that file is shipped by i3-wm, not by i3, so reinstalling i3 won't put it back [15:03] not what I did [15:03] uninstalled, purged, nuked the files, reinstalled [15:04] What's the output of sudo dpkg -V [15:04] still running but so far nothing except ??5?????? c /etc/gnome/defaults.list [15:07] Let it run. And you're saying you have no files in /usr/share/xsessions now? [15:07] a handful of files, most I don't recognize, and it's complaining about those 2 .desktop files [15:07] yes [15:07] reinstalling i3 didn't put them back in [15:07] Run this: dpkg -S /usr/share/xsessions [15:08] i3-wm, mate-session-manager [15:08] These are the packages that you need to reinstall to get the desktop files back [15:08] Not i3, not mate [15:08] sudo apt install --reinstall i3-wm [15:08] Also put the output of dpkg -V to pastebin [15:08] Since the files that you don't recongnize might be importatnt [15:09] s/importatnt/important/ [15:10] well I killed it to run the other command [15:11] and I fail to see how uninstalling i3 an following that up with an autoremove, to then install i3 and i3status, wouldn't put the files back in [15:11] and yet forcing a reinstall of i3-wm did put them back in [15:12] same content as what I pasted earlier [15:12] It's what I'm trying to explain about package management [15:12] When you uninstall or reinstall a metapackage, it doesn't automatically reinstall all its dependencies [15:13] autoremove [15:13] So for example if you ever apt purge --auto-remove mate-desktop and then reinstall it, you completely break your installation [15:14] As all the programs that depend on mate-desktop get removed by they don't automatically get back [15:14] For me to help more, I'll need the output of `sudo dpkg -V` and `sudo dpkg -l` [15:14] anyway I'm going to log out and back in, see if that changed anything. If that did, then we still have a problem because the same thing happened on a clean install a few months ago, and inside a vm last night. [15:14] In any case this isn't a development channel [15:15] So you can't report bugs here, you can only get volunteer help [15:15] So even if you are able to reproduce the issue in a clean installation (I wasn't, it worked fine for me), the next step is to report the bug [15:15] nope, fails and falls back to i3 [15:15] I have already [15:16] *falls back to mate [15:16] > For me to help more, I'll need the output of sudo dpkg -V and sudo dpkg -l [15:16] I'm running them [15:16] You may even test with a live cd if you wish [15:16] apt install i3 in the live session [15:18] Btw if you reported the bug, you may mention it here so that it helps with the discussion [15:20] I did it just as you started asking questions [15:20] I assumed it was why you were asking [15:21] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1990771 [15:22] as for the output you asked for https://paste.debian.net/plainh/ab2de206 [16:06] No dpkg -l output there [16:06] You may run `dpkg -S filename` for the affected files [16:07] It will show the affected package. By reinstalling it, you'll fix the dpkg -V issues [16:07] half of the dpkg -V output is on purpose [16:08] the other half I have absolutely no clue, I don't go around and nuke files willy-nilly so I can only assume they're leftovers from the previous install [16:10] Installations and upgrades can't cause that dpkg -V output; in any case I've mentioned how to fix it [16:11] I'll look into it