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[05:49] <didrocks> good morning
[06:17] <duflu> Morning didrocks 
[06:17] <didrocks> hey duflu 
[06:32] <oSoMoN> good morning
[06:33] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN 
[06:58] <seb128> goood morning desktopers!
[07:07] <didrocks> salut seb128, ça va ?
[07:07] <seb128> didrocks, salut. Je sors de chez le dentiste mais sinon ça va :)
[07:25] <didrocks> seb128: ah, j’espère que tout va bien
[07:25] <didrocks> seb128: I was just disconnected after dist-upgrading because of wifi going away
[07:25] <didrocks> even after a reboot, it doesn’t see any network anymore
[07:25] <didrocks> so, could it be iwd? How to debug it?
[07:42] <duflu> Morning seb128 
[07:44] <duflu> Back in ~1h
[07:47]  * rs2009 waves
[07:58] <didrocks> so, I have some networks displayed with sudo iw dev wlp3s0 scan
[07:58] <didrocks> it’s "just" that network-manager doesn’t pick them up
[07:59] <didrocks> I tried removing iwd and reboot (both iwd and wpa_supplicant were booted before)
[07:59] <didrocks> but nothing still
[08:12] <didrocks> So, I was able to transition with:
[08:12] <didrocks> -> uninstall iwd
[08:12] <didrocks> reboot, see that the old device name is down
[08:12] <didrocks> set it up manually
[08:12] <didrocks> reinstall iwd
[08:12] <didrocks> reboot
[08:12] <seb128> transition to what?
[08:12] <didrocks> now the device has a new name "wlan0" to me (not the systemd device name anymore)
[08:13] <didrocks> well, get my laptop back working
[08:13] <didrocks> then, I was able to scan and see again networks in nm
[08:14] <seb128> it seems somehow wpa and iwd conflicts on some configs :/
[08:14] <didrocks> yeah
[08:14] <didrocks> and device name changing doesn’t sound like it will ease the task?
[08:14] <seb128> the easiest workaround is 'sudo apt remove wpasupplicant'
[08:14] <didrocks> I tried that, didn’t work at first
[08:15] <jibel> I've had the same issue this morning
[08:15] <didrocks> I really needed to go back to wpa supplicant
[08:15] <seb128> weird
[08:15] <didrocks> and set the device up first (the old one, with the name generated by systemd)
[08:15] <seb128> that means iwd isn't working for you?
[08:15] <jibel> is the transition to iwd documented somewhere? 
[08:15] <jibel> we won't be alone facing this problem
[08:15] <didrocks> seb128: now it does, I had then to reinstall iwd, reboot
[08:15] <didrocks> and that was ok
[08:15] <seb128> we will revert the upload from yesterday I guess, the time to understand why iwd doesn't work for some configs
[08:16] <jibel> iwd is working once wpa_supplicant is out of the way, and the connection reconfigured manually
[08:16] <didrocks> (well, I needed ofc to select it again and enter the passphrase…)
[08:16] <seb128> didrocks, it doesn't make much sense to me why iwd wasn't working until you reinstall wpa
[08:16] <seb128> reinstalled
[08:16] <didrocks> I don’t know why either, maybe my new device name was just down for $reason?
[08:17] <seb128> did you restart the system after removing wpasupplicant?
[08:17] <didrocks> I haven’t thought of thinking about that before I did reinstall wpa
[08:17] <didrocks> yeah
[08:17] <seb128> it's known that nm doesn't autoconnect to existing configuration, which Heather is working on with a migration postinst
[08:17] <didrocks> after having both -> reboot, remove wpasupplicant -> reboot, reinstall -> reboot
[08:17] <seb128> but on my machine iwd does list the APs
[08:17] <didrocks> btw, once I get back the ssid listed
[08:17] <seb128> and I can select one to connect
[08:18] <didrocks> I mistyped the passphrase
[08:18] <seb128> it just requires me to click rather than doing it in the background
[08:18] <didrocks> I got no feedback from nm?
[08:18] <seb128> I didn't try to type a wrong password
[08:18] <didrocks> I did it once only, unsure if this is iwd, if this is reliable, but worth keeping in mind and try to reproduce
[08:18] <seb128> yes
[08:19] <seb128> I'm puzzled why iwd after a reboot wouldn't list APs by itself though :/
[08:19] <didrocks> yeah
[08:19] <seb128> we probably need to revert due to that, I don't think it's an issue we will be able to debug before beta
[08:19] <seb128> especially that I don't have that problem on my machines
[08:19] <didrocks> doesn’t looks like it, it’s something that needs to be done on real software, with downgrade/upgrade
[08:20] <didrocks> hardware*
[08:20] <didrocks> so yeah, tricky to debug
[08:20] <seb128> jbicha, ^ let's revert the iwd addition from yesterday
[08:22] <seb128> didrocks, also wlan0 is the expected device name under iwd
[08:24] <didrocks> ack, back to understandable device name :)
[08:25] <didrocks> I wonder if this is what is puzzling some parts, even after reboot (why my device went down?)
[08:27] <seb128> I can imagine that being confusing to n-m but I don't understand why it's still the case after restarting
[08:28] <seb128> it felt late in the cycle for switching now, we should probably try to debug those problems in Prague when we have people with configs that show the problem and try again early in L
[08:35] <didrocks> sounds like a better plan, indeed
[13:45] <jbicha> I made the iwd revert for ubuntu-meta (which will help upgraders). Needs to be manually accepted because of beta freeze.
[14:33] <jbicha> seb128: didrocks: I'm reverting the NM Recommends: iwd now too
[14:33] <didrocks> perfect, thanks!
[14:36] <jbicha> didrocks: iwd will fall back to Kinetic Universe unless we wanted to seed it in Supported or something. I think universe is ok
[14:37] <didrocks> as you wish, no strong opinion on this
[16:31] <seb128> jbicha, universe is alright
[17:23] <tjaalton> I had a power failure and now my kinetic desktop fails to boot up, gnome-characters snap says "can't open blockdev" and drops into emergency shell
[17:23] <tjaalton> how to recover from it?
[17:39] <rs2009> is the new Flutter-based snap-store in preview/edge ready for daily usage? asking as the current store, which uses libadwaita, is broken on Unity7, but the new one seems to work perfectly fine (not for 22.10, but for 23.04)
[17:57] <ogra> rs2009, officialy it is said to be "early alpha" ...
[17:58] <ogra> (i havent tried it, perhaps it works acceptable, not sure ... but i'd not risk it for your unity iso)
[17:59] <rs2009> ogra: yep, was thinking about it for 23.04
[18:00] <rs2009> (since it should be pretty much ready by then)
[18:01] <ogra> hopefully ... gnome-software is a pain 🙂
[18:03] <rs2009> ogra: agreed :)
[18:10] <Eickmeyer> rs2009, ogra: I've tried it, it's pretty smooth!
[18:11] <ogra> so i heard ! 
[18:11] <ogra> and also that it is also pretty usable already 
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