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[01:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (kinetic-proposed/main) [2.784 => 2.785] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
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[02:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (kinetic-proposed) [2.785]
[02:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: jpeg-xl (kinetic-proposed/primary) [0.7.0-1]
[06:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mypy (kinetic-proposed/universe) [0.971-2 => 0.971-4] (no packageset) (sync)
[06:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mypy [sync] (kinetic-proposed) [0.971-4]
[08:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fwts (kinetic-proposed/universe) [22.07.00-0ubuntu1 => 22.09.00-0ubuntu1] (kernel-dkms)
[08:46] <tjaalton> could someone review the jammy xorg-server upload, it's needed by some oem projects, thanks
[09:22] <rs2009> release team: would be great if someone could take a look at https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/results/autopkgtest-kinetic/kinetic/amd64/u/ubuntu-image/20220927_071126_b48d8@/log.gz
[10:17] <mwhudson> i think it's probably a real regression, in that it results from the change to not preseed anything
[10:17] <mwhudson> (not sure, but it seems plausible)
[10:18] <mwhudson> maybe we should ignore it, or maybe only skip the preseeding if firefox is ther
[10:18] <mwhudson> e
[10:18] <mwhudson> or something
[10:18] <mwhudson> i am asleep, anyway
[10:27] <laney> are we all part of mwhudson's fever dream?
[10:37] <Ukikie> I know I am.
[10:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-exchangelib (kinetic-proposed/universe) [4.7.6-1 => 4.7.6-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[10:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-exchangelib [source] (kinetic-proposed) [4.7.6-1ubuntu1]
[11:09] <xnox> apw:  vorlon: "missing build on ppc64el: linux-image-5.19.0-15-generic (from 5.19.0-15.15)" in linux-signed in update_excuses is intentional, but i don't know how to let that through. because we do need that .deb in kinetic-release; and yes we are dropping it upon migration. so i don't know how to express that to britney that missing binary/build is actually ok.
[11:10] <xnox> (src:linux-signed in release built deb:linux-image-5.19.0-15-generic:ppc64el and src:linux in proposed builds deb:linux-image-5.19.0-18-generic:ppc64el)
[12:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: listserialportsc (kinetic-proposed/universe) [1.4.0-1 => 1.4.0+repack-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[12:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted listserialportsc [sync] (kinetic-proposed) [1.4.0+repack-1]
[12:56] <bdmurray> I'm kicking off a test build of lubuntu with some changes to livecd-rootfs to workaround bug 1990884
[13:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-fluids (kinetic-proposed/universe) [1.0.9-1ubuntu1 => 1.0.22-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-fluids [sync] (kinetic-proposed) [1.0.22-1]
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[13:55] <bdmurray> jbicha: Could you elaborate on why iwd is being removed from the -recommends for desktop?
[14:18] <jbicha> it is reverting a change from yesterday, to make sure that iwd was installed for upgrades
[14:19] <jbicha> bdmurray: we are seeing some significant regressions because of the wpasupplicant -> iwd transition and intend to keep using wpasupplicant for 22.10
[14:20] <jbicha> bdmurray: currently, network-manager Recommends: iwd | wpasupplicant. I can drop iwd from Recommends there too but that would affect all desktop flavors to push before Beta
[14:27] <bdmurray> jbicha: so are there any other flavors which are shipping iwd?
[14:28] <jbicha> bdmurray: No
[14:29] <jbicha> bdmurray: wait, I mean, actually it's pulled in by NetworkManager so new installs would get it. But because of the alternate recommends, upgraders won't
[14:29] <jbicha> I think I ought to do the network-manager upload now then
[14:31] <bdmurray> Okay, we'll keep an eye out for it
[14:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: network-manager (kinetic-proposed/main) [1.40.0-1ubuntu1 => 1.40.0-1ubuntu2] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
[14:40] <jbicha> bdmurray: uploaded
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[14:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted meta-gnome3 [sync] (kinetic-proposed) [1:42+8]
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[14:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted network-manager [source] (kinetic-proposed) [1.40.0-1ubuntu2]
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[15:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-meta [source] (kinetic-proposed) [1.496]
[15:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: syncthingtray [amd64] (kinetic-proposed/universe) [1.2.2-2] (no packageset)
[15:27] <Eickmeyer> ubuntu-release: I sponsored the upload of ubuntucinnamon-wallpapers prior to beta freeze. It was supposed to be associated with bug 1989359 for the wallpaper UIFe, but that didn't get added to the changelog. I notated that in the bug.
[15:45] <rs2009> ubuntu-release: could someone run the Ubuntu Unity ISO Build (we need to ensure everything's working before the beta release, including snaps)? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/kinetic/ubuntu-unity
[15:48] <bdmurray> rs2009: I've recently uploaded a version of livecd-rootfs (with your change - thanks again!) and I've just built a lubuntu livefs as a test. We next need to test the image and if it works then I'll move on to build other images.
[15:50] <rs2009> bdmurray: ah yes, I noticed that, which is why I asked for the build to be run. I'll test the Lubuntu image too now, and see if the snaps are present. thanks!
[16:06] <rs2009> bdmurray: looks like the snaps still aren't present in the Lubuntu ISO
[16:09] <bdmurray> rs2009: I see them in the manifest... what behaviour did you notice?
[16:10] <rs2009> bdmurray: the snaps didn't get installed automatically while booting (they are supposed to when snap-preseed isn't run manually)
[16:22] <bdmurray> rs2009: Could you elaborate on "are supposed to be"?
[16:25] <rs2009> bdmurray: snap-preseed reduces the ISO/first boot time, by running some of the tasks which usually run as part of the ISO/first boot. however, removing it shouldn't cause any issues and should just increase the boot time
[16:27] <bdmurray> rs2009: I initially did not see any snaps (via snap list) but some minutes later they did show up
[16:27] <rs2009> bdmurray: ah great, just checked here too and looks like they appeared (guess it took some time as snap-preseed was removed)
[16:28] <bdmurray> yeah, this isn't ideal but is workable
[16:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-budgie-meta (kinetic-proposed/universe) [0.102 => 0.103] (personal-fossfreedom, ubuntu-budgie)
[16:31] <rs2009> bdmurray: guess we could run all the other ISO builds now?
[16:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntustudio-meta (kinetic-proposed/universe) [0.274 => 0.275] (ubuntustudio)
[16:32] <bdmurray> rs2009: I'm doing an install now just to make sure something goofy doesn't happen.
[16:33] <rs2009> bdmurray: oh sure
[16:35] <Eickmeyer> ginggs: ?
[16:37] <bdmurray> Eickmeyer: one of the release team tasks for the beta is to "Update metapackages for all releasing derivatives" and that is what ginggs is working on
[16:37] <Eickmeyer> bdmurray: Understood, I just usually get pinged to do the ubuntustudio part.
[16:37] <bdmurray> In the interest of expediency we did it instead of asking
[16:38] <bdmurray> Eickmeyer: I'm about to accept the changes unless you object.
[16:38] <Eickmeyer> No objections.
[16:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-budgie-meta [source] (kinetic-proposed) [0.103]
[16:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntustudio-meta [source] (kinetic-proposed) [0.275]
[16:46] <paride> bdmurray, just tested the lubuntu image, behaves as you described (and as expected) without the seeding
[16:50] <bdmurray> paride: ack, thanks!
[17:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ubuntucinnamon-wallpapers [amd64] (kinetic-proposed) [22.10.1]
[17:35] <rs2009> bdmurray: installed the Lubuntu ISO, and snaps seem to work as expected. would be great if we could run the ISO builds now for all the flavors
[17:38] <bdmurray> rs2009: there was a network-manager change we want to get in also
[17:40] <rs2009> bdmurray: ah okay, wasn't aware of that
[18:00] <arraybolt3> Heads up guys, we in #lubuntu-devel just uncovered a Snap bug that's causing Firefox to have problems showing up when the live ISO is first booted, and also immediately after the first bootup after installation. Since we've been having some problems with Snap and Firefox, I thought it might be useful to know. The bug report is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1991011
[18:01] <bdmurray> arraybolt3: What is the serial of the daily build you've used?
[18:01] <arraybolt3> I'll find out, I downloaded it just today.
[18:02] <arraybolt3> 20220927.2.
[18:02] <arraybolt3> I see that a .3 was released, I'll pull it and repeat the test.
[18:04] <bdmurray> arraybolt3: the snaps are no longer preseeded so it takes a couple of minutes for them to show up
[18:05] <arraybolt3> bdmurray: OK. So this is normal behavior? Interestingly, on an installed system, it happens on the first boot, but not the second one.
[18:06] <bdmurray> arraybolt3: Well it is expected but not normal, we'd rather that the snaps were preseeded and this didn't happen.
[18:07] <arraybolt3> Ah, OK. Is there a bug report on this so I can mark the one that me and Leo just made as a duplicate?
[18:07] <arraybolt3> Or should I just set it to Invalid?
[18:12] <rs2009> hey arraybolt3, we actually made that change as 'snap-preseed' was failing to run during the ISO build, so snaps now take a few minutes to show up the ISO is booted for the first time, or when a fresh install has been booted for the first time (as 'snap-preseed' would do some of the first boot snap tasks during the ISO build)
[18:12] <rs2009> so this is expected behaviour
[18:13] <arraybolt3> rs2009: Nice, thanks for confirming! I will add this info to the bug report.
[18:13] <bdmurray> I think using that bug in the release notes would be good.
[18:16] <rs2009> arraybolt3: no problem! I've commented on the bug report with this info too
[18:16] <arraybolt3> Oops, I just commented also with all the info, guess I'll edit mine down some.
[18:17] <arraybolt3> Eh, you covered everything much more concisely, so I just deleted my comment. Thanks!
[18:17] <Eickmeyer> Yikes. This affects not just Firefox, but Freeshow and Audacity on Ubuntu Studio.
[18:18] <arraybolt3> So, the obvious question to come after this... any clue what got clogged up with Snap preseeding, so maybe we can try to help unclog it?
[18:20] <arraybolt3> (Actually, I'm realizing this is in my backlog, so I'll read up.)
[18:33] <bdmurray> bug 1990884
[19:36] <bdmurray> building ubuntu now
[19:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: glib2.0 (kinetic-proposed/main) [2.74.0-1 => 2.74.0-2] (core, i386-whitelist) (sync)
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[20:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (jammy-proposed/main) [2.765.10 => 2.765.11] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
[20:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Kinetic Beta] (20220927.1) has been added
[20:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Kinetic Beta] (20220927.1) has been added
[20:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Kinetic Beta] (20220927.1) has been added
[20:39] <bdmurray> whoo
[20:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (kinetic-proposed/main) [2.785 => 2.786] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
[20:57] <bdmurray> The raspi images failed to build but I have a fix for that ^
[20:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (kinetic-proposed) [2.786]
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[21:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Kinetic Beta] (20220927) has been added
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[21:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: update-notifier (focal-proposed/main) [3.192.30.11 => 3.192.30.12] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
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[21:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop amd64 [Kinetic Beta] (20220927.1) has been added
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[22:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Unity Desktop amd64 [Kinetic Beta] (20220927.1) has been added
[22:12] <bdmurray> rs2009: ubuntu-unity is in the iso tracker now but I didn't add any test cases b/c I don't know what would be appropriate / correct https://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/439/builds/260017/testcases . Also the image is oversized somehow.
[22:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Kinetic Beta] (20220927) has been added
[22:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected update-notifier [source] (bionic-proposed) [3.192.1.13]
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[22:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted update-notifier [source] (focal-proposed) [3.192.30.12]
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[23:08] <Trevinho> bdmurray: hey, can we get gdm3 unblocked? I think it would be relevant to test the beta with it
[23:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nototools (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.2.16-1 => 0.2.17-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)