[03:30] <sem> Do people still do dual boots on new machines a lot these days
[03:40] <Bashing-om> sem: Not so much as in the past - what with lots of ram and the proliferation of VMs.
[03:41] <sem> I have a newish Thinkpad tablet thing, and I am considering installing Ubuntu under WSL instead of a dualboot because of dual boot problems in the past
[03:42] <sem> The thing I'm sad about though is that it will be higher latency than bare metal, for live audio processing
[08:26] <arraybolt3[m]> WSL is known for having a fair share of problems (a lot of them related to the absence of systemd within WSL, though that has supposedly recently changed, or so I've heard if I'm remembering correctly). Your mileage may vary, if you're already running Windows, you can try it and find out if it works.
[09:06] <murmel> arraybolt3[m]: let's see how it works out, as for now it's not even in the stable branch (not enabled by default)
[09:07] <ogra> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/09/matrix-patches-vulnerabilities-that-completely-subvert-e2ee-guarantees/
[09:07] <ogra> lovely ...
[09:08]  * ogra knows why he still uses IRC directly 🙂
[09:08] <murmel> ogra: so you don't have to deal with e2e? ^^
[09:09] <ogra> hehe
[09:10] <ogra> so i dotn have t deal with service outages from attackers that think hacking a tech i dont use anyway is cool ... 
[09:10] <ogra> *to
[09:12] <murmel> well, irc is nowadays so obscure, they probably don't know about it :)
[09:37] <murmel> .
[14:55] <lhp22> arraybolt3: didn't know about this channel ! :o
[14:55] <arraybolt3> o/
[14:55] <lhp22> indeed, i'm not a great user of irc. I come on libera chat when I get serious problems I can't success handling
[14:56] <arraybolt3> There's a ton of Ubuntu-related channels for various different things.
[14:56] <lhp22> Really shoud install irc client
[14:56] <arraybolt3> If you're on Ubuntu (with GNOME Desktop), I use HexChat. On KDE, Quassel or Konversation might be better.
[14:57] <lhp22> The problem is : here, i'm from a windows one (some games still lock me), i've an android phone, a tiny laptop on arch x)
[14:58] <lhp22> And on arch, I switch between different desktop environments x)
[14:58] <lhp22> so web interface are great for me (I'm from gamja here)
[14:58] <arraybolt3> Ah, I've not used Windows as my main OS for years, so no advice there.
[14:58] <arraybolt3> And I don't own an Android phone so :/
[14:58] <arraybolt3> (And I use HexChat via the Linux Development Environment on my Chromebook.)
[14:59] <lhp22> I understand. I use windows only for 2 games, and tehcnically i'm on a /e/-phone x)
[14:59] <lhp22> So, difficult, even if I think that web interfaces are too much used
[14:59] <lhp22> OH
[14:59] <lhp22> ABOUT THE LOCALES
[14:59] <arraybolt3> Ah, one moment...
[14:59] <arraybolt3> (Do you have your full desktop installed yet?)
[14:59] <lhp22> Not yet. Just successfully logged in as root
[15:00] <lhp22> Just added a passwd for root
[15:00] <arraybolt3> lhp22: That's actually usually a bad idea on Ubuntu.
[15:00] <arraybolt3> lhp22: The "correct" way to do it is to make a user with sudoers access.
[15:00] <lhp22> Oh, it's better using gui only ?
[15:00] <arraybolt3> Root should always remain passwordless, and you elevate to root for individual commands using sudo from your user.
[15:00] <lhp22> Yes, I know, but I wanted/can (to) do it from this root account
[15:00] <lhp22> It's just for the building phase
[15:00] <arraybolt3> Well, you can proceed, but do NOT turn on your desktop environment from root, that could cause all sorts of nonsense.
[15:01] <lhp22> I certainly not let a root account easily accessible to new user
[15:01] <arraybolt3> Probably make the new user and install the desktop environment here, then sign into it from the new user.
[15:01] <lhp22> Ah yes, I got it on my arch some years ago x)
[15:01] <lhp22> Install as root, create the new user, reboot ?
[15:01] <arraybolt3> Sounds right.
[15:02] <lhp22> And for locales ?
[15:02] <lhp22> (bash reminds me that there are not set up)
[15:02] <arraybolt3> Once you have the desktop installed, locale handling can be done from within the GUI.
[15:02] <lhp22> Ok
[15:02] <arraybolt3> (I believe, at least.)
[15:02] <lhp22> Yes, I've heard that'd better to do the biggest part from the gui on ubuntu
[15:02] <lhp22> about the updates : same, isn't it ? Onlyt from the gui ?
[15:03] <lhp22> I heard it once
[15:03] <arraybolt3> Updates can be done from the terminal.
[15:03] <lhp22> Upgrades too ? >.>
[15:03] <arraybolt3> Really, most of Ubuntu can be done from the terminal. Probably the locales can, too, but the GUI is easy.
[15:03] <lhp22> ok
[15:04] <arraybolt3> Upgrades... (sucks in air through teeth) upgrades go wrong so frequently that I would never recommend upgrading from one release to the next. Clean install every time, that's how I do it.
[15:04] <arraybolt3> But with how complicated this was, you may really want to upgrade, so...
[15:04] <lhp22> So, I think I'm going to stop here. I'm on this bios-problematic computer for 7 hours. I need rest. Thanks for all your help ! You (and friend of mine) thank you a lot !
[15:04] <arraybolt3> Personally, I'd upgrade through the terminal.
[15:04] <arraybolt3> lhp22: Glad to help!