| lubot | [telegram] <Edgar Burns> I get my payment wow this is very good. I invest more confirmed legitimacy. Thank you very much Mrs Elizabeth Maria. I am happy with the company. Very legit and trustworthy. Congratulations on joining. I am a living witness who makes huge profits from this platform. also join today via the link and be assured of a true investment experiencehttps://t.me/+S1Z5RdFJT4k2ZGE0 : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/c6e9231c/file_6474.j | 03:13 |
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| arraybolt3[m] | @Leokolb, @guiverc: Scam ^ | 03:17 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Rosie Field> I get my payment wow this is very good. I invest more confirmed legitimacy. Thank you very much Mrs Elizabeth Maria. I am happy with the company. Very legit and trustworthy. Congratulations on joining. I am a living witness who makes huge profits from this platform. also join today via the link and be assured of a true investment experiencehttps://t.me/+S1Z5RdFJT4k2ZGE0 : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/33514002/file_6476.j | 03:17 |
| arraybolt3[m] | @Leokolb, @guiverc: Another scam ^ | 03:17 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> orbital nuked on Telegram | 03:27 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> y'all seem to forget I have telegram admin power too xD | 03:27 |
| * guiverc just flags when I don't have the power | 03:28 | |
| arraybolt3[m] | @teward001: Thanks. (Yep, /me forgot.) | 03:28 |
| * arraybolt3[m] overnights a black hole's worth of espresso to teward's house | 03:29 | |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> hah | 03:29 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (In the unlikely event you have admin power over in #kde-devel:kde.org, too, the same bots are pestering them.) | 03:30 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> E:NOACCESS on KDE | 03:31 |
| arraybolt3[m] | :( | 03:31 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> yeah i'm not a big KDE person | 03:31 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> and i'm not in all the matrix channels either, i just have orbital nuke on Telegram :P | 03:31 |
| arraybolt3[m] | One or both of us needs to get simultaneous jobs at Libera, Element, and Telegram. | 03:31 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Then we can orbital nuke everywhere :D | 03:31 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> *becomes Ruler of the World, and therefore everyone must obey, or suffer the consequences* | 03:32 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> *sips booz* | 03:32 |
| arraybolt3[m] | OK that may be a little overkill. | 03:33 |
| arraybolt3[m] | I don't think that story ends well when one of us decides to get into a sparring match with the black hole projector. | 03:33 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> you mean THIS black hole projector? *holds up the BHP* | 03:37 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> *paints @tsimonq2 's location with a black hole using the BHP* | 03:38 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> aaaaaaaanyways. i only stopped on to burn the spam.. *goes back to the shadows* | 03:39 |
| arraybolt3[m] | 👋 | 03:39 |
| tsimonq2 | Good morning. Finally all back, settled, and refreshed from my work trip earlier this week. | 13:40 |
| tsimonq2 | teward: uhhhh I can try again, last time I was interrupted in the middle of it and didn't get the chance to go back | 13:41 |
| RikMills | please try vlc with some mp4 files ;) | 13:41 |
| * RikMills runs off | 13:41 | |
| tsimonq2 | anyway | 13:41 |
| tsimonq2 | when I say things have been chaotic I meant it ;) | 13:41 |
| tsimonq2 | yeah? is it broken? | 13:42 |
| RikMills | in a vm yes on the sample mp4s I tried. and on a hardware live session for me. | 13:42 |
| RikMills | but confirmation on a real installed system would be good | 13:43 |
| RikMills | currently I don't have a kinetic one | 13:43 |
| tsimonq2 | oic | 13:44 |
| tsimonq2 | RikMills: Bug report anywhere I can read backlog on? | 13:44 |
| RikMills | not yet. if someone will confirm, I will make one | 13:45 |
| tsimonq2 | well I just confirmed something is wrong on my freshly-installed real Kinetic hardware | 13:45 |
| tsimonq2 | I just don't know precisely what I'm looking at | 13:45 |
| RikMills | nor do I. search the command line error hasn't provided much insight | 13:47 |
| RikMills | *searching | 13:47 |
| RikMills | vlc usually spews many warnings | 13:47 |
| RikMills | anyway, now I know it is not some weird VM thing, I can report it later | 13:48 |
| RikMills | thanks :) | 13:49 |
| RikMills | I am tempted to blame ffmpeg5 ;) | 13:53 |
| RikMills | but dragon-player that uses libvlc as a backend works, so not so clear | 13:53 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Leokolb> Lubuntu or Kubuntu - maybe both? (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <RikMills> please try vlc with some mp4 files ;)) | 13:57 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | RikMills: vlc doesn't use ffmpeg5, so it can't be that. | 15:32 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | it has its own code library (libvlc) | 15:33 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | It's probably a problem in the frontend. | 15:33 |
| RikMills | Eickmeyer[m]: vlc build depends on the ffmpeg -dev packages | 15:36 |
| RikMills | but yes, the front end is likely the issue | 15:36 |
| RikMills | in fact, the last rebuild of vlc in the archive was a no change rebuild by steve against the new ffmpeg libs | 15:38 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Does mplayer still work? Might help uncover if it's ffmpeg's fault or not. (But Dragon Player still works so...) | 15:40 |
| RikMills | the forum post that alerted me to this says that mpv using things are still still ok | 15:41 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Well, I can say this: per my testing, it doesn't matter if it's DE or X11 or Wayland, MP4 doesn't work on VLC. | 15:41 |
| RikMills | indeed | 15:41 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Is there a bug report yet? | 15:42 |
| RikMills | no, as I didn't want to do it from a VM | 15:42 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I did it from actual hardware. | 15:43 |
| arraybolt3[m] | I have a Kinetic install right here, lemme try and help confirm too. | 15:43 |
| RikMills | that is what we need, as VM video is dodgy at best anyway, and could have irrelevant error messages | 15:44 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (Is it OK that the system I have here is Xubuntu Core? It's made by a Xubuntu developer, and is essentially Xubuntu but with almost no preinstalled apps, so it's tiny. Not sure if using an unofficial flavor for this test is OK or not, though I suspect it is.) | 15:45 |
| RikMills | it shouldn't matter for testing | 15:47 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Eickmeyer, RikMills: I'm getting audio but no video even with a .ogv file here. | 15:47 |
| arraybolt3[m] | So it's not MP4 specific. | 15:47 |
| RikMills | sigh | 15:48 |
| RikMills | thanks | 15:48 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Whoa that's weird. I closed VLC and opened it again and now it's working. | 15:48 |
| * RikMills raises eyebrow | 15:48 | |
| arraybolt3[m] | Just after I installed mplayer for testing. | 15:49 |
| RikMills | curious | 15:49 |
| * arraybolt3[m] removes mplayer and autoremoves to see what happens. | 15:49 | |
| RikMills | have to go for a bit | 15:49 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Sigh, nope, now it's just working. :/ | 15:49 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Weird... | 15:50 |
| arraybolt3[m] | OK, pulling an mp4 from Pexels. | 15:50 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | arraybolt3: Cannot duplicate. | 15:51 |
| arraybolt3[m] | OK so on my (slow) laptop that I'm trying this on, when I open an MP4, I get a black screen and various odd behavior with the window size, but when I close VLC, I see a flash of the video just before the window vanishes. | 15:52 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | That's exactly what I see. | 15:53 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | On my (incredibly fast) computer. | 15:53 |
| * arraybolt3[m] still wonders what was up with that .ogv a bit ago, but at least we can duplicate mp4 problems | 15:54 | |
| Eickmeyer[m] | My MP4 might be shoddy, I can't make it open in dragon player even. | 15:54 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Upon closing the .ogv, I see a black screen flash in a totally different location of my screen just before VLC closes. So something seems wrong here. | 15:55 |
| arraybolt3[m] | I just use a drone video off Pexels, I have one that plays in Dragon Player without issues but fails on VLC. | 15:57 |
| arraybolt3[m] | I see a ton of "chain filter error: Too high level of recursion (3)" in the logs of VLC. | 15:58 |
| arraybolt3[m] | And also "main filter error: Failed to create video converter" | 15:58 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I'm using a friend of mine's vod from Twitch. Same issue. | 15:58 |
| arraybolt3[m] | And also "co located POCs unavailable" | 15:59 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I'm investigating the package from Debian. | 15:59 |
| arraybolt3[m] | That last one I keep getting tons of over and over. | 16:00 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Multimedia team maintained (which I'm technically part of). | 16:00 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Looks like it's the latest version, per videolan.org | 16:00 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Just tested the snap, it works.... 🙄 | 16:03 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Imma try a no-change rebuild in my PPA (grasping at straws) | 16:04 |
| * arraybolt3[m] takes a swing at building from source | 16:07 | |
| Eickmeyer[m] | My changelog entry: "No-change rebuild against anything" KEK | 16:08 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Now, I know the reason why the snap works: It was built against ffmpeg4. | 16:10 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Eh, so my test on Jammy isn't going to work, it's on ffmpeg4. | 16:11 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Correct. | 16:11 |
| arraybolt3[m] | And no way am I making my Chromebook build anything from source with its speed. | 16:11 |
| * arraybolt3[m] checks for a Kinetic VM already installed | 16:11 | |
| arraybolt3[m] | Oh wait I have a Debian Sid VM, that might be even better. | 16:12 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (If it survives an apt upgrade that is.) | 16:12 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Oof best of luck. | 16:12 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | So, SUPPOSEDLY vlc supports ffmpeg 5: https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/merge_requests/1245 | 16:15 |
| ubot93 | Merge 1245 in videolan/vlc "[VLC3] Support FFmpeg 5.0 (except for VAAPI)" [Merged] | 16:15 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Hmm... except for VAAPI? | 16:16 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Well, VAAPI is undergoing some patent troll stuff. | 16:17 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Maybe that's the problem, is it trying to use VAAPI when it shouldn't? | 16:17 |
| * arraybolt3[m] hopes the US joins with the EU in saying "no you can't patent software", this codec nonsense is insane | 16:19 | |
| arraybolt3[m] | (But whatever, that's off-topic.) | 16:19 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Ah, that lovely feeling as you watch various LXQt components get removed during the upgrade and you really really hope that's because they're about to be replaced :P | 16:30 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Nope, looks like Debian Sid just nuked LXQt. Sigh. Well at least I know how to use the terminal and I might still be left with Trinity Desktop Environment (let's hope). | 16:31 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (Shoulda' looked at the list of packages to be removed.) | 16:32 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | My mock "no-change rebuild" was unsuccessful. | 16:46 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Alright, so now that I've shredded my VM, let's try to install VLC. 🙃 | 16:50 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Same symptoms on Debian Sid as on Ubuntu Kinetic, though slightly different errors in the terminal. | 16:55 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I have the feeling this is going to be a bug report and a release note. I'm not seeing any bug reports in Debian that match this, so this will need to be reported in Debian as well. | 17:27 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Eickmeyer: Send the link to the report, I'll help confirm it. | 17:41 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (Whenever it's written.) | 17:42 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I haven't written it. sigh And as I think about it, I probably should. | 17:45 |
| arraybolt3 | You want me to? | 17:46 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Being the de-facto multimedia guy for Ubuntu and all.... | 17:46 |
| arraybolt3 | Either way. I'm available if you need help. | 17:46 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | If you could do the Debian one, that would be awesome. | 17:46 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Then I could link to that from the Launchpad bug report I'll write. | 17:47 |
| arraybolt3 | OK. I'll see if I can wrangle it (I've never reported a Debian bug before). | 17:48 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Oh, it's easy. There's even a command for it. | 17:48 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debian/Bugs | 17:48 |
| arraybolt3 | I found that, just booting up the Debian VM so I do it from there and have the best chance of success. (My upgrade nuked LXQt for reasons unknown to me, but TDE survived so \o/) | 17:49 |
| arraybolt3 | Eickmeyer[m]: Does reportbug allow me to export the final bug report text as a text file and then send it with GMail? | 17:54 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | arraybolt3: I think so. | 17:54 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Eickmeyer: One last thing, while I was making the bug report, it said that the debug log from VLC would be handy, so I made one according to its directions. Should I attach the contents of the log inline with the rest of the email? It's 183.4 KB file. | 18:20 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (Not sure if Debian actually wants me to do that, or if that's detrimental like it sorta sounds like.) | 18:20 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I'm not sure, to be honest. | 18:20 |
| arraybolt3[m] | I'll err on the side of caution and say "I have a debug log available, but it's 183.4 KB, so I didn't include it for fear of messing anyone up, if you'd like me to send it, let me know." | 18:21 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I have LP: #1991418 if you'd like to comment there and add it as an attachment. | 18:22 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1991418 in vlc (Ubuntu) "VLC unable to show MP4 video, plays audio fine" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1991418 | 18:22 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Will do. (Strange, reportbug didn't request any authentication info or anything, it just... sent the bug. (I forgot to say anything about the debug log 🤣)) | 18:24 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Automagic. | 18:24 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Did you get a debian bug number? | 18:25 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Not yet, they said within the hour. | 18:25 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Ah. | 18:26 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Commented and confirmed Ubuntu bug. | 18:26 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (It's always a bit scary to me when thing work automagically when I would have expected that I would need a password or something. :P) | 18:28 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Woot, got the bug number! | 18:28 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Nice! | 18:29 |
| arraybolt3[m] | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1021032 | 18:29 |
| ubot93 | Debian bug 1021032 in vlc "vlc: playing mp4 videos results in a black screen" [Important, Open] | 18:29 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Yeah, I got the email. | 18:29 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | (debian multimedia team member privs) | 18:29 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Ah, nice. | 18:30 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Uh, should I put the link in the Launchpad bug or are you doing that already? | 18:30 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (I don't know how to add bug watches, if I can.) | 18:30 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I can do it. | 18:30 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Done. | 18:32 |
| arraybolt3[m] | OK, and now I just attached the debug log. | 18:36 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (Figuring stuff out!) | 18:36 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> FYI: rebooting the infra at OVH | 22:46 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> because (err: SLOW SHIT) | 22:46 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> (sorry i'm aggravated after trying to access it for over an hour, that one slipped) | 22:46 |
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