| howudodat | origintopleft: ok, results and some config are here: https://pastebin.com/vcSTMe40 | 00:15 |
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| howudodat | spun up a new guest machine on proxmox to use for testing | 00:15 |
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| ice9 | what are the default fonts packages in a fresh installation of 22.04? | 01:01 |
| howudodat | ok, I was able to get it to write, but only by adding: file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,gid=users to the fstab entry | 01:02 |
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| Haematophage | tomreyn, my apologies. | 01:05 |
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| tomreyn | Haematophage: no need - but if you could stabilize your nickname in the future, that'd be great. | 01:10 |
| smallville7123 | MACHINE=arm doesnt work for makefile | 01:12 |
| tomreyn | smallville7123: if you're hoping to get assistence with this, you'll want to provide a lot more detail. | 01:14 |
| smallville7123 | And | 01:14 |
| smallville7123 | cc1: error: unknown value ‘arm’ for ‘-march’ | 01:14 |
| smallville7123 | cc1: note: valid arguments are: armv8-a armv8.1-a armv8.2-a armv8.3-a armv8.4-a armv8.5-a armv8.6-a armv8-r native | 01:14 |
| tomreyn | !paste | smallville7123 | 01:14 |
| ubottu | smallville7123: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 01:14 |
| smallville7123 | im using ubuntu aarch64 chroot and i need to cross compile for a 32 bit system | 01:15 |
| smallville7123 | but i also need to compile for a 32 bit host | 01:17 |
| smallville7123 | E: Unable to locate package glibc:armel | 02:18 |
| smallville7123 | E: Unable to locate package glibc:armhf | 02:18 |
| smallville7123 | How do i install armhf libc (32 bit arm) | 02:18 |
| castlegate | Any suggestions? Looking for an apt repository proxy where I can do "snapshots" for various lifecycles (eg. Dev/Testing/Staging/Prod) like Foreman does. | 02:21 |
| tomreyn | smallville7123: libc6 | 02:23 |
| tomreyn | smallville7123: and it's arm64 + armhf | 02:23 |
| smallville7123 | yea :) | 02:24 |
| tomreyn | castlegate: #ubuntu-mirrors or #ubuntu-server may have suggestions. or you could look at how snapshot.debian.org works. | 02:25 |
| castlegate | tomreyn: thanks for the suggestions! I'll check them out :^) | 03:47 |
| elze | hi | 04:08 |
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| bsmith0931 | Test | 05:28 |
| Bashing-om | bsmith0931: Good :) | 05:28 |
| lvsmmusic | do we have a seperate channel for hardware enablement? | 06:32 |
| lotuspsychje | lvsmmusic: not specialy for ubuntu i think, just for general hardware | 06:32 |
| lotuspsychje | lvsmmusic: maybe ask your question here, see if we can help or forward you somewhere | 06:33 |
| lvsmmusic | https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-61-Logitech-Hi-Res-Scroll | 06:33 |
| lvsmmusic | https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/hid/hid.git/commit/?h=for-next&id=908d325e1665b2781085580070554cbbe5fc3c89 | 06:33 |
| ubottu | Commit 908d325 in kernel/git/hid/hid.git "HID: logitech-hidpp: Detect hi-res scrolling support" | 06:33 |
| lvsmmusic | can that patch be backported to 5.x kernel? | 06:33 |
| lvsmmusic | like cherry picking? | 06:33 |
| lotuspsychje | not sure they will backport that, but we do have an #ubuntu-kernel channel where they maybe can answer that properly lvsmmusic | 06:34 |
| lvsmmusic | nice! | 06:34 |
| lvsmmusic | I will ask them | 06:35 |
| lotuspsychje | being saturday, you might wanna idle there a bit | 06:35 |
| lvsmmusic | oh ya | 06:35 |
| lvsmmusic | may I should try on monday then? | 06:35 |
| lotuspsychje | you can try right now, see what happens | 06:36 |
| lvsmmusic | lotuspsychje: will kernel v6 be available for 22.04.x ? | 06:36 |
| lvsmmusic | lotuspsychje: ok | 06:36 |
| lotuspsychje | lvsmmusic: checking ubuntu's !mainline kernel are up to 6.0 right now | 06:36 |
| lotuspsychje | so not sure yet, wich release 6.1 will come to | 06:36 |
| lvsmmusic | ok | 06:37 |
| lvsmmusic | lotuspsychje: Thanks for the support, have a nice weekend, see you later | 06:39 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome lvsmmusic the same to you! | 06:39 |
| murmel | lvsmmusic: 5.19 will be in 22.10 so it should be with the next release 23.04 should bring something 6.x (talking about these releases as the kernels are being brought to 22.04) | 08:03 |
| xatrix | Hi guys, can you advice ? How can i setup my video drivers? I installed em from ppa:oibaf . Currently i have no GLX and my radeontop utility says i have 100% load of GPU and my laptop cooler runs max. https://imgur.com/rt9P5Zb.png | 08:31 |
| murmel | xatrix: honest question, why do you even care about newer mesa releases with that old hardware? | 08:32 |
| xatrix | I suppose modern drivers, should get fixes and other things for the old hardware | 08:35 |
| xatrix | And it shuould run smoothly than a dated drivers | 08:36 |
| murmel | xatrix: I mean do you have issues with your gpu? | 08:36 |
| xatrix | I just upgraded from 20.04 -> 22.04 and my system broke :) | 08:36 |
| murmel | especially with older hardware, there are basically no gains when using a newer driver | 08:36 |
| murmel | xatrix: did you have oibaf on 20.04? | 08:36 |
| xatrix | I don't remember but yes. | 08:37 |
| murmel | xatrix: then it makes sense, as oibaf has newer packages than 22.04, and as oibaf gets disabled when upgrading *shrug* | 08:38 |
| xatrix | Is it a problem ? To have recent drivers ? Sorry for my english , i'm not native | 08:38 |
| murmel | xatrix: no, but you should have removed the packages (going back to 20.04 packages) then upgrading and then installing oibaf packages again | 08:38 |
| xatrix | I suppose ubuntu upgader should disable everything unsupported during upgrade | 08:39 |
| xatrix | Just need to fix this crappy laptop :) | 08:39 |
| xatrix | please advice | 08:39 |
| xatrix | I can send you a Xorg.0.log | 08:39 |
| murmel | xatrix: yes it does, but because the oibaf packages are newer than 22.04, it won't downgrade to the official packages | 08:40 |
| murmel | xatrix: try to install oibaf packages for jammy? | 08:40 |
| xatrix | https://paste.debian.net/1255604/ | 08:40 |
| murmel | as ppas are not supported here, I can only guess. especially when running nightlies, not stable mesa releases | 08:40 |
| xatrix | i think i have stable, do i? | 08:41 |
| murmel | no? | 08:41 |
| xatrix | and i have jammy oibaf | 08:41 |
| murmel | oibaf is always nightlies | 08:41 |
| xatrix | ah | 08:41 |
| xatrix | didn't know it | 08:42 |
| murmel | this is the error, so very likely that upstream has a bug, or oibaf packages are broken (EE) Failed to load module "amdgpu" (module does not exist, 0) | 08:42 |
| xatrix | then i can purge oibaf and install from deb https://repo.radeon.com/amdgpu/22.20/ubuntu jammy main | 08:42 |
| xatrix | but i'm not sure it can help | 08:42 |
| xatrix | i suppose my hardware should run radeon driver instead of amdgpu | 08:43 |
| murmel | xatrix: honestly you think way too much about driver releases. I would definitely just use the jammy packages, as we are maybe talking about 1-2% performance difference | 08:44 |
| murmel | xatrix: there shouldn't be a reason why you want to install amdgpu-pro (the repo you posted) | 08:45 |
| xatrix | No problem. It's not critical for me. Just need to get my video runs good. Because of i have my cooler runs at maximum ,and some of my apps, which use GLX, doesn't want to run | 08:46 |
| murmel | xatrix: you mean with the default packages or oibaf? | 08:47 |
| xatrix | Actully it doesn't make sens for me :) I just want a stable work. | 08:48 |
| xatrix | Nothing special | 08:48 |
| murmel | yeah so remove oibaf and be happy | 08:48 |
| xatrix | Ok, no problem. How can i get rid of? | 08:49 |
| xatrix | How can i downgrade | 08:49 |
| murmel | xatrix: use ppa-purge which should do it automatically when removing the ppa | 08:49 |
| xatrix | murmel: i've removed ppa:oibaf, what can i do now ? | 09:08 |
| murmel | xatrix: did it also remove the packages which were installed from oibaf? | 09:08 |
| xatrix | Sounds if | 09:12 |
| xatrix | How can i check it ? | 09:12 |
| xatrix | murmel, | 09:13 |
| murmel | xatrix: check which mesa package is installed | 09:15 |
| xatrix | murmel: https://imgur.com/IqKLonT.png | 09:15 |
| murmel | xatrix: apt policy mesa-vulkan-drivers should show you 22.0.5 | 09:16 |
| murmel | installed | 09:16 |
| murmel | additionally, why did you add the radeon.com repo oO | 09:17 |
| xatrix | OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 4400 (HSW GT2) | 09:17 |
| xatrix | v: 4.6 Mesa 22.0.5 | 09:17 |
| xatrix | it's maybe my experiments with dkms drivers | 09:17 |
| xatrix | witch should be compiled first | 09:17 |
| xatrix | i can remove em as well | 09:18 |
| murmel | remove the radeon driver repo, as it's unneeded (for most people) | 09:18 |
| xatrix | how can i list packages installed from radeon repo ? to remove em as well ? | 09:19 |
| murmel | xatrix: dpkg doesn't track that, you would need to remove the repo, and then see which packages have no links to repos | 09:19 |
| murmel | so after removing repo + apt update, you can "apt list --installed | grep installed,local" | 09:20 |
| xatrix | got it | 09:20 |
| murmel | to see which you have installed but have no repo | 09:20 |
| xatrix | murmel: take a look please, https://imgur.com/zRVT5Ou.png | 09:22 |
| murmel | xatrix: oof, you have quite the frankenubuntu or whatever it's called. | 09:24 |
| murmel | first I would definitely "relink" the packages you need, so I assume those are skype,teamviewer,code,virtualbox,viber | 09:25 |
| xatrix | Yea, but now, i have to fix my video system. Can i manage teamviewer,skype...etc, later on ? | 09:26 |
| murmel | xatrix: so I just remove the packages then which belong to the amdgpu-pro driver or oibaf | 09:28 |
| murmel | eh you not I | 09:28 |
| xatrix | ok. i'll try now | 09:28 |
| xatrix | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 09:29 |
| xatrix | amdgpu-core* amdgpu-dkms* amdgpu-install* libdrm-amdgpu-amdgpu1* libdrm-amdgpu-common* libdrm-amdgpu-radeon1* libdrm2-amdgpu* libllvm14.0.50200-amdgpu* | 09:29 |
| xatrix | mesa-amdgpu-va-drivers* | 09:29 |
| xatrix | I suppose it will be enough to get rid of :) ? | 09:29 |
| murmel | sounds okay | 09:29 |
| xatrix | alright i've done https://imgur.com/4WVTUhZ.png | 09:30 |
| murmel | nice, verify that your gpu driver works then, incl glx | 09:31 |
| xatrix | Ok, got to reboot | 09:32 |
| xatrix | murmel: something broke now. take a look please | 09:34 |
| xatrix | https://paste.debian.net/1255607 | 09:36 |
| xatrix | I don't know how to explain, but i have my window manager without borders, and my hotkeys don't work | 09:36 |
| murmel | i mean from what you pasted, the intel gpu drivers don't load | 09:37 |
| murmel | but there is nothing else to "decipher: | 09:37 |
| xatrix | https://paste.debian.net/1255608 | 09:37 |
| xatrix | My xorg.log | 09:37 |
| xatrix | glxinfo gives me tons of errors | 09:38 |
| murmel | yeah you did something so that the amdgpu module isn't loaded anymore by xorg | 09:39 |
| murmel | I assume it was out of your own free will to use xorg not wayland? | 09:39 |
| xatrix | so, what can i do in this situation? reinstall oibaf ? | 09:39 |
| xatrix | wayland ? i didn't get what you mena | 09:40 |
| murmel | xatrix: can you post syslog? | 09:40 |
| xatrix | not sure it pasted, but can you check it ? http://paste/scsys.co.uk/657 | 09:41 |
| murmel | xatrix: that's not a link | 09:42 |
| xatrix | my interface quite broken, so i can only use terminal and 'nopaste' command | 09:42 |
| xatrix | oh.sorry. http://paste.scsys.co.uk/657 | 09:42 |
| xatrix | actuall i don't need amdgpu driver. | 09:47 |
| xatrix | How can i tell xorg not to load it | 09:47 |
| xatrix | murmel: if i add nomodeset to kernel line - i can load successfully. but my backlight control doesn't work | 09:50 |
| xatrix | and my radeontop utility says i have 100% GPU load | 09:50 |
| murmel | yeah there is definitely something going wrong. | 09:51 |
| xatrix | without nomodeset - my interface broken. but i still can load something simple | 09:51 |
| xatrix | [xatrix@MERNOV-NB ~]$ glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer" | 09:51 |
| xatrix | OpenGL renderer string: llvmpipe (LLVM 13.0.1, 256 bits) | 09:51 |
| xatrix | it's with 'nomodeset' | 09:51 |
| xatrix | without - tons of errors | 09:52 |
| xatrix | murmel: take a look please, what is now | 09:53 |
| xatrix | https://imgur.com/elgg9sN.png | 09:53 |
| murmel | xatrix: nomodeset? | 09:53 |
| xatrix | yes | 09:53 |
| xatrix | if i run without nomodeset, GLX is broken | 09:54 |
| murmel | i mean makes sense that nomodeset disables gpu drivers ;). but on the other hand, I would suggest to reinstall | 09:56 |
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| faLUKE | hello. I need a server on my PC where a friend can upload large files. what can I use which is EASY and QUICK to configure? | 12:01 |
| EriC^^ | faLUKE: sftp? | 12:03 |
| faLUKE | EriC^^: I need a minimal setup | 12:03 |
| EriC^^ | faLUKE: pretty minimal *shrug* | 12:04 |
| ArtfulDodger | Some package (gitlab-ce) is not yet avaible to 22.04 so I modified its ".list" to hit focal instead of jammy and it worked. I did the same for another package (gitlab-runner) but after "apt update", apt is still not able to find the package while it's actually available in 20.04 systems. | 12:25 |
| ArtfulDodger | I don't really get how versioning works. How come the first install worked but not the second since both are available in focal but not in jammy? | 12:26 |
| ducasse | faLUKE: sftp is probably your best choice, prety easy to set up | 12:28 |
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| faLUKE | ducasse: right | 12:29 |
| ducasse | faLUKE: set it up to use keys for authentication, to add some security | 12:30 |
| ducasse | you can also run it in a chroot to not give them full acces to your system | 12:30 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:35 |
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| baby100b | HI | 13:06 |
| baby100b | i just need friends to talk and share here | 13:07 |
| respawn | baby100b: go to #ubuntu-offtopic | 13:11 |
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| StephenLynx | so, this is the context of my question: ubuntu 20, xfce, chromium installed through snap. | 13:58 |
| StephenLynx | there is a launcher on xfce's panel for chromium. this launcher breaks when chromium updates. | 13:58 |
| StephenLynx | but seemingly fixes itself when a desktop shortcut for chromium is used. | 13:59 |
| StephenLynx | does that rings any bell? | 13:59 |
| tomreyn | StephenLynx: you could ask in #xubuntu (pointing out that you've installed ubuntu, then xfce somehow) | 14:04 |
| tomreyn | !yy.mm | StephenLynx | 14:04 |
| ubottu | StephenLynx: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle | 14:04 |
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| StephenLynx | "somehow"? it's just sudo apt install xfce4 | 14:06 |
| tomreyn | StephenLynx: ok, it would be good to point this out. if you want the full functionality of a xubuntu desktop, you should probably install xubuntu-desktop, or at least see what elese it would install in addition to what you already have now, and may be missing. | 14:10 |
| StephenLynx | what is "full functionality" of xubuntu? | 14:11 |
| StephenLynx | isn't it just a DE? | 14:11 |
| tomreyn | it is an ubuntu flavor, providing a (customized) distribution of the xfce desktop and xfwm window manager. | 14:12 |
| StephenLynx | and is the xfce4 package expected to have the launchers breaking when the launched software updates through snap? | 14:13 |
| tomreyn | i do not know. maybe folks in #xubuntu would know, or reviewing the packages xubuntu-desktop would additionally install could tell. | 14:14 |
| StephenLynx | but I did not install xubuntu. I installed ubuntu and a new DE. | 14:15 |
| ogra | StephenLynx, snaps adhere to the XDG desktop standards, if the launcher icon disappears (which it does not on any other desktops), there must be a bug with XFCEs XDG compliance | 14:21 |
| ogra | (well, it disappears everywhere due to the nature of snaps, but should show up again a few seconds later when the update was done) | 14:22 |
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| xipper | Can anyone recommend one of those services where you can sorta pastebin stuff from your terminal? | 15:05 |
| xipper | not pastebeing specifically, but there used to be one calle 0x00 or something like that | 15:05 |
| oerheks | termbin | 15:05 |
| oerheks | cat ~/some_file.txt | nc termbin.com 9999 | 15:06 |
| oerheks | i rather use paste.ubuntu.com, to get control over pasted notes ( read delete) | 15:07 |
| oerheks | but it needs an account | 15:07 |
| xipper | oerheks: thank you. The problem with termbin is the 9999 port | 15:23 |
| oerheks | oke | 15:23 |
| tomreyn | xipper: 0x0.st and ix.io. let's move to #ubuntu-offtopic if you have more questions on this. | 15:25 |
| xipper | tomreyn: thank you | 15:27 |
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| SandyVujakovi[m] | <StephenLynx> "but I did not install xubuntu. I..." <- Well, Ubuntu plus XFCE essentially qualifies as Xubuntu with regards to questions regarding XFCE, even if you didn't install the entire Xubuntu experience. | 17:13 |
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| Guest77 | hig uys | 18:11 |
| Guest77 | Hi Guys | 18:11 |
| Guest77 | Just wanted to review here, Xubuntu is pretty hard to use compared to Lubuntu | 18:11 |
| Guest77 | I have to CLI unzip tar files, other distros unpack them automatically in GUI | 18:12 |
| hans_ | let me get this straight: if i install Ubuntu LTS, i get 5 year updates. If i install Xubuntu LTS, i get 3 years updates. but if i install Xubuntu Server, and run "sudo tasksel install xubuntu-desktop", then i get 5 years updates? | 18:12 |
| oerheks | There is no ' Xubuntu Server' | 18:12 |
| hans_ | err that didn't come out right | 18:13 |
| hans_ | ill try again: let me get this straight: if i install Ubuntu LTS, i get 5 year updates. If i install Xubuntu LTS, i get 3 years updates. but if i install Ubuntu Server, and run "sudo tasksel install xubuntu-desktop", then i get 5 years updates? | 18:13 |
| oerheks | and no, xubuntu deskto gets 3 years, whatever the base; gnome or server | 18:13 |
| oerheks | 'ubuntu-support-status' gives a clue about support time | 18:14 |
| Guest77 | yeah | 18:15 |
| Guest77 | If you install Ubuntu, you get 5 years | 18:15 |
| Guest77 | You can isntall Ubuntu, then change the Desktop Environment | 18:15 |
| Guest77 | install | 18:15 |
| tomreyn | That's a bit misleading, so here's another take at an explanation: Support durations refer to repositories and lists of packages really. All packages in main get 5 years of support. Most packages of other desktops are usually in universe, thus get support for as long as the MoTUs care about and the flavors promise to support them. | 18:26 |
| javier | ayuda para el serviddor de merida | 18:35 |
| javier | porfavor | 18:36 |
| oerheks | !es | 18:36 |
| ubottu | En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 18:36 |
| javier | graacias | 18:39 |
| hans_ | the firefox uninstaller seems broken: apt install firefox; apt purge firefox; leaves /snap/bin/firefox intact | 18:47 |
| hans_ | and it even works! after the purge | 18:47 |
| hans_ | on ubuntu 22.04 | 18:47 |
| hans_ | anyway.. how do i uninstall firefox? | 18:48 |
| oerheks | snap remove firefox | 18:50 |
| oerheks | and the folder with settings stays, so i guess you need --purge | 18:51 |
| allc0re | I'm following this guide: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/windows-ubuntu-hyperv-containers#7-run-an-ubuntu-container-on-hyperv but when I get to step 7 I get the error: no matching manifest for windows/amd64 10.0.22621 in the manifest list entries. Can someone help? | 19:28 |
| allc0re | nvm I got it. Had to turn on experimental features for docker engine | 19:31 |
| allc0re | ^ should update the guide to specify that. | 19:31 |
| oerheks | docker - windows issue .. | 19:32 |
| === Mentos is now known as MentozZz | ||
| hans_ | every time i install something, it ask me "which services do you want to restart?" and there's just 1 option and it often has nothing to do with the app im installing, how do i tell it to stop doing that? https://i.imgur.com/5qyCGRn.png | 19:47 |
| oerheks | hans_, what tool is this? githubtool that loads a newer kernel from mainline?? | 19:48 |
| hans_ | oerheks: apt | 19:49 |
| hans_ | apt ask me that question every time i install anything | 19:49 |
| oerheks | not on my ubuntu.. | 19:49 |
| oerheks | so, what linux is that? | 19:49 |
| hans_ | here i installed Visual Studio Code, https://i.imgur.com/uI0kUEZ.png | 19:50 |
| hans_ | oerheks: Ubuntu 22.04 installed from the server iso, https://ubuntu.hi.no/releases/22.04.1/ubuntu-22.04.1-live-server-amd64.iso | 19:50 |
| leftyfb | hans_: is this a docker image? | 19:50 |
| hans_ | leftyfb: nope. | 19:51 |
| hans_ | or are you asking what "networkd-dispatcher.service" is? cus idk, it was something the Ubuntu installer added by default | 19:51 |
| leftyfb | hans_: bamfdaemon | 19:52 |
| leftyfb | it's from bamfdaemon | 19:52 |
| oerheks | why is apt-utils not installed? | 19:52 |
| leftyfb | which I've never heard of and do not have installed on any desktop or server | 19:52 |
| oerheks | anyway, never seen this | 19:53 |
| leftyfb | hans_: you said your install is a server, but this bamfdaemon is clearly related to a desktop environment | 19:53 |
| hans_ | i installed ubuntu from the server installer iso, then i did "sudo apt install xubuntu-core" | 19:54 |
| leftyfb | why not just install xubuntu? | 19:54 |
| hans_ | and when it asked me if i wanted "full ubuntu server" or "minimal ubuntu server", i said minimal | 19:54 |
| hans_ | leftyfb: if i install xubuntu then it gets configured to use the xubuntu mirrors, which stop security updates after 3 years. if i install xubuntu server + "sudo apt install xubuntu-core" then its configured to use normal Ubuntu repos which stop security updates after 5 years | 19:55 |
| leftyfb | uh | 19:56 |
| leftyfb | I don't think that's true | 19:56 |
| oerheks | There is no ' Xubuntu Server' | 19:56 |
| hans_ | wfewfw | 19:56 |
| oerheks | and we discussed this.. | 19:56 |
| hans_ | sorry, i meant Ubuntu Server | 19:56 |
| leftyfb | I think after 3 years you stop getting updates for the xubuntu-related packages | 19:56 |
| oerheks | no, you get 3 years for the desktop | 19:56 |
| leftyfb | regardless of how you installed it | 19:56 |
| leftyfb | hans_: your "workaround" isn't | 19:56 |
| hans_ | well i want 5 years of security updates for the kernel if i can get it | 19:57 |
| oerheks | some guest after that claimed otherwise | 19:57 |
| leftyfb | hans_: you will get that | 19:57 |
| leftyfb | hans_: regardless of which ubuntu you install | 19:57 |
| leftyfb | hans_: regardless, remove this bamfdaemon and you won't get those prompts anymore | 19:58 |
| Guest97 | I'm trying to decide which OS uses less default resources, Xubuntu or Lubuntu? | 20:02 |
| oerheks | i think Lubuntu .. | 20:03 |
| oerheks | !flavors | 20:03 |
| ubottu | Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours | 20:03 |
| Guest97 | ldxe or xfce | 20:03 |
| leftyfb | Guest97: try them both and see which one works best for you | 20:03 |
| Guest97 | lubuntu is easier | 20:03 |
| Guest97 | better interface | 20:03 |
| oerheks | but that would be 100 mb or so.. | 20:03 |
| Guest97 | which is most lightweight | 20:03 |
| oerheks | as long as you have 4gb for 64 bit, you are fine | 20:04 |
| Guest97 | yeah | 20:04 |
| ravage | once you start chromium or firefox that all really doesnt matter anymore. choose what you like best | 20:04 |
| Guest97 | how much lighter is lububtu compared to ubuntu | 20:04 |
| leftyfb | Guest97: try them out. See which one performs better for you uses | 20:05 |
| Guest97 | yes but statistically | 20:05 |
| leftyfb | Guest97: we don't have statistics and that is beyond the scope of this channel | 20:06 |
| leftyfb | Guest97: you can always ask for opinions in #ubuntu-offtpic | 20:06 |
| saltd | for windows answers | 20:07 |
| leftyfb | saltd: huh? | 20:07 |
| saltd | leftyfb hah | 20:07 |
| leftyfb | saltd: can we help you with something? | 20:07 |
| saltd | leftyfb yes call medics looks like i've losing my mind with these russian milk products | 20:08 |
| saltd | and call the police | 20:08 |
| leftyfb | saltd: trolling is offtopic here. Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic | 20:08 |
| saltd | russia,st-petersburg rozenshteyna street 24-26 | 20:08 |
| saltd | "trolling is offtopic here" man did u see channel where there was rules "trolling here | 20:09 |
| saltd | " | 20:09 |
| saltd | ??? | 20:09 |
| leftyfb | saltd: please stop | 20:09 |
| saltd | 0xc000005 | 20:09 |
| saltd | ok | 20:09 |
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| * saltd stopped. | 20:13 | |
| fizzled | Guys, can I roll back an install. I installed ubuntu server then upgraded it to Ubuntu desktop. Can I go back to server | 21:06 |
| Habbie | they're not really different things, they're just sets of packages you have or don't have | 21:06 |
| Habbie | so i'm sure you can go back | 21:06 |
| Habbie | but i don't know if there's some simple command for it | 21:06 |
| cbreak | apt remove? :) | 21:07 |
| cbreak | or maybe purge | 21:07 |
| oerheks | there are no restore points. | 21:10 |
| cbreak | unless you have snapshots on your zfs rood fs :) | 21:15 |
| fizzled | Well it seems to be removing stuff, lets see what happens | 21:15 |
| cbreak | (which requires having a zfs root fs in the first place) | 21:15 |
| oerheks | just set boot to multi target | 21:15 |
| oerheks | systemctl get-default # shows what is loaded | 21:16 |
| cbreak | https://www.systutorials.com/change-systemd-boot-target-linux/, interesting | 21:17 |
| oerheks | systemctl set-default multi-user.target | 21:17 |
| oerheks | vs graphical.target | 21:17 |
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| fizzled | Package 'ubuntu-desktop' is not installed, so not removed | 21:32 |
| fizzled | I still have a basic gui | 21:32 |
| fizzled | odd | 21:33 |
| fizzled | Blue tabs | 21:33 |
| tomreyn | removing a package does not (necessarily) remove packages it depended on | 21:34 |
| cbreak | have you checked what apt autoremove tells you it'd remove? | 21:35 |
| fizzled | The list is long gnome etc, I'll just re-install it again I didn't have much on it that can't be put back in a few mins. Thanks everybody | 21:39 |
| cbreak | you don't need gnome | 21:41 |
| cbreak | it's only installed because you installed the desktop thing | 21:41 |
| cbreak | along with probably most of the rest of the things on that list | 21:41 |
| cbreak | autoremove removes things that were auto installed as dependency for some package, but aren't needed anymore | 21:41 |
| fizzled | Yeah i did still got the gui though odd | 21:42 |
| MannyLNJ | Hello. I need some help. I have /dev/sda paritioned for Windows 10 and Ubuntu /sda1 is my EFI /sda2 is MicosofReserved /sda3 and /sda4 is used by Windows and /sda5 is where Ubuntu lives. I can't get a boot menu to show up to allow me to choosean OS it just boots into Ubuntu can someone help me get dual boot working please | 21:52 |
| cbreak | MannyLNJ: have you considered installing a boot chooser like refind? | 21:54 |
| MannyLNJ | cbreak, I have no. No | 21:54 |
| cbreak | if you want, you can also configure grub to wait for you to select something else to boot | 21:55 |
| cbreak | it can continue to boot windows | 21:55 |
| cbreak | both options are viable. | 21:55 |
| MannyLNJ | cbreak, I thought I had configured grub for that but I don't get a grub screen | 21:55 |
| cbreak | check your /etc/default/grub | 21:56 |
| cbreak | what's the GRUB_TIMEOUT? and GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE? | 21:56 |
| MannyLNJ | Timeout is 10 and style is menu | 21:56 |
| cbreak | did you follow the comment in the start of the file? | 21:57 |
| cbreak | (running update-grub ?) | 21:57 |
| MannyLNJ | Yes I did that | 21:57 |
| MannyLNJ | I jyst installed refind let me reboot and see if that is loading now | 21:57 |
| cbreak | you might have to run refind-mkdefault first | 21:57 |
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