[00:15] origintopleft: ok, results and some config are here: https://pastebin.com/vcSTMe40 [00:15] spun up a new guest machine on proxmox to use for testing === amdj is now known as vampidj [01:01] what are the default fonts packages in a fresh installation of 22.04? [01:02] ok, I was able to get it to write, but only by adding: file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,gid=users to the fstab entry === LoupGris is now known as Lycanthropy === Lycanthropy is now known as Haematophage [01:05] tomreyn, my apologies. === popey6 is now known as popey [01:10] Haematophage: no need - but if you could stabilize your nickname in the future, that'd be great. [01:12] MACHINE=arm doesnt work for makefile [01:14] smallville7123: if you're hoping to get assistence with this, you'll want to provide a lot more detail. [01:14] And [01:14] cc1: error: unknown value ‘arm’ for ‘-march’ [01:14] cc1: note: valid arguments are: armv8-a armv8.1-a armv8.2-a armv8.3-a armv8.4-a armv8.5-a armv8.6-a armv8-r native [01:14] !paste | smallville7123 [01:14] smallville7123: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [01:15] im using ubuntu aarch64 chroot and i need to cross compile for a 32 bit system [01:17] but i also need to compile for a 32 bit host [02:18] E: Unable to locate package glibc:armel [02:18] E: Unable to locate package glibc:armhf [02:18] How do i install armhf libc (32 bit arm) [02:21] Any suggestions? Looking for an apt repository proxy where I can do "snapshots" for various lifecycles (eg. Dev/Testing/Staging/Prod) like Foreman does. [02:23] smallville7123: libc6 [02:23] smallville7123: and it's arm64 + armhf [02:24] yea :) [02:25] castlegate: #ubuntu-mirrors or #ubuntu-server may have suggestions. or you could look at how snapshot.debian.org works. [03:47] tomreyn: thanks for the suggestions! I'll check them out :^) [04:08] hi === NatSocSiD` is now known as NatSocSiD [05:28] Test [05:28] bsmith0931: Good :) [06:32] do we have a seperate channel for hardware enablement? [06:32] lvsmmusic: not specialy for ubuntu i think, just for general hardware [06:33] lvsmmusic: maybe ask your question here, see if we can help or forward you somewhere [06:33] https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-61-Logitech-Hi-Res-Scroll [06:33] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/hid/hid.git/commit/?h=for-next&id=908d325e1665b2781085580070554cbbe5fc3c89 [06:33] Commit 908d325 in kernel/git/hid/hid.git "HID: logitech-hidpp: Detect hi-res scrolling support" [06:33] can that patch be backported to 5.x kernel? [06:33] like cherry picking? [06:34] not sure they will backport that, but we do have an #ubuntu-kernel channel where they maybe can answer that properly lvsmmusic [06:34] nice! [06:35] I will ask them [06:35] being saturday, you might wanna idle there a bit [06:35] oh ya [06:35] may I should try on monday then? [06:36] you can try right now, see what happens [06:36] lotuspsychje: will kernel v6 be available for 22.04.x ? [06:36] lotuspsychje: ok [06:36] lvsmmusic: checking ubuntu's !mainline kernel are up to 6.0 right now [06:36] so not sure yet, wich release 6.1 will come to [06:37] ok [06:39] lotuspsychje: Thanks for the support, have a nice weekend, see you later [06:39] welcome lvsmmusic the same to you! [08:03] lvsmmusic: 5.19 will be in 22.10 so it should be with the next release 23.04 should bring something 6.x (talking about these releases as the kernels are being brought to 22.04) [08:31] Hi guys, can you advice ? How can i setup my video drivers? I installed em from ppa:oibaf . Currently i have no GLX and my radeontop utility says i have 100% load of GPU and my laptop cooler runs max. https://imgur.com/rt9P5Zb.png [08:32] xatrix: honest question, why do you even care about newer mesa releases with that old hardware? [08:35] I suppose modern drivers, should get fixes and other things for the old hardware [08:36] And it shuould run smoothly than a dated drivers [08:36] xatrix: I mean do you have issues with your gpu? [08:36] I just upgraded from 20.04 -> 22.04 and my system broke :) [08:36] especially with older hardware, there are basically no gains when using a newer driver [08:36] xatrix: did you have oibaf on 20.04? [08:37] I don't remember but yes. [08:38] xatrix: then it makes sense, as oibaf has newer packages than 22.04, and as oibaf gets disabled when upgrading *shrug* [08:38] Is it a problem ? To have recent drivers ? Sorry for my english , i'm not native [08:38] xatrix: no, but you should have removed the packages (going back to 20.04 packages) then upgrading and then installing oibaf packages again [08:39] I suppose ubuntu upgader should disable everything unsupported during upgrade [08:39] Just need to fix this crappy laptop :) [08:39] please advice [08:39] I can send you a Xorg.0.log [08:40] xatrix: yes it does, but because the oibaf packages are newer than 22.04, it won't downgrade to the official packages [08:40] xatrix: try to install oibaf packages for jammy? [08:40] https://paste.debian.net/1255604/ [08:40] as ppas are not supported here, I can only guess. especially when running nightlies, not stable mesa releases [08:41] i think i have stable, do i? [08:41] no? [08:41] and i have jammy oibaf [08:41] oibaf is always nightlies [08:41] ah [08:42] didn't know it [08:42] this is the error, so very likely that upstream has a bug, or oibaf packages are broken (EE) Failed to load module "amdgpu" (module does not exist, 0) [08:42] then i can purge oibaf and install from deb https://repo.radeon.com/amdgpu/22.20/ubuntu jammy main [08:42] but i'm not sure it can help [08:43] i suppose my hardware should run radeon driver instead of amdgpu [08:44] xatrix: honestly you think way too much about driver releases. I would definitely just use the jammy packages, as we are maybe talking about 1-2% performance difference [08:45] xatrix: there shouldn't be a reason why you want to install amdgpu-pro (the repo you posted) [08:46] No problem. It's not critical for me. Just need to get my video runs good. Because of i have my cooler runs at maximum ,and some of my apps, which use GLX, doesn't want to run [08:47] xatrix: you mean with the default packages or oibaf? [08:48] Actully it doesn't make sens for me :) I just want a stable work. [08:48] Nothing special [08:48] yeah so remove oibaf and be happy [08:49] Ok, no problem. How can i get rid of? [08:49] How can i downgrade [08:49] xatrix: use ppa-purge which should do it automatically when removing the ppa [09:08] murmel: i've removed ppa:oibaf, what can i do now ? [09:08] xatrix: did it also remove the packages which were installed from oibaf? [09:12] Sounds if [09:12] How can i check it ? [09:13] murmel, [09:15] xatrix: check which mesa package is installed [09:15] murmel: https://imgur.com/IqKLonT.png [09:16] xatrix: apt policy mesa-vulkan-drivers should show you 22.0.5 [09:16] installed [09:17] additionally, why did you add the radeon.com repo oO [09:17] OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 4400 (HSW GT2) [09:17] v: 4.6 Mesa 22.0.5 [09:17] it's maybe my experiments with dkms drivers [09:17] witch should be compiled first [09:18] i can remove em as well [09:18] remove the radeon driver repo, as it's unneeded (for most people) [09:19] how can i list packages installed from radeon repo ? to remove em as well ? [09:19] xatrix: dpkg doesn't track that, you would need to remove the repo, and then see which packages have no links to repos [09:20] so after removing repo + apt update, you can "apt list --installed | grep installed,local" [09:20] got it [09:20] to see which you have installed but have no repo [09:22] murmel: take a look please, https://imgur.com/zRVT5Ou.png [09:24] xatrix: oof, you have quite the frankenubuntu or whatever it's called. [09:25] first I would definitely "relink" the packages you need, so I assume those are skype,teamviewer,code,virtualbox,viber [09:26] Yea, but now, i have to fix my video system. Can i manage teamviewer,skype...etc, later on ? [09:28] xatrix: so I just remove the packages then which belong to the amdgpu-pro driver or oibaf [09:28] eh you not I [09:28] ok. i'll try now [09:29] The following packages will be REMOVED: [09:29] amdgpu-core* amdgpu-dkms* amdgpu-install* libdrm-amdgpu-amdgpu1* libdrm-amdgpu-common* libdrm-amdgpu-radeon1* libdrm2-amdgpu* libllvm14.0.50200-amdgpu* [09:29] mesa-amdgpu-va-drivers* [09:29] I suppose it will be enough to get rid of :) ? [09:29] sounds okay [09:30] alright i've done https://imgur.com/4WVTUhZ.png [09:31] nice, verify that your gpu driver works then, incl glx [09:32] Ok, got to reboot [09:34] murmel: something broke now. take a look please [09:36] https://paste.debian.net/1255607 [09:36] I don't know how to explain, but i have my window manager without borders, and my hotkeys don't work [09:37] i mean from what you pasted, the intel gpu drivers don't load [09:37] but there is nothing else to "decipher: [09:37] https://paste.debian.net/1255608 [09:37] My xorg.log [09:38] glxinfo gives me tons of errors [09:39] yeah you did something so that the amdgpu module isn't loaded anymore by xorg [09:39] I assume it was out of your own free will to use xorg not wayland? [09:39] so, what can i do in this situation? reinstall oibaf ? [09:40] wayland ? i didn't get what you mena [09:40] xatrix: can you post syslog? [09:41] not sure it pasted, but can you check it ? http://paste/scsys.co.uk/657 [09:42] xatrix: that's not a link [09:42] my interface quite broken, so i can only use terminal and 'nopaste' command [09:42] oh.sorry. http://paste.scsys.co.uk/657 [09:47] actuall i don't need amdgpu driver. [09:47] How can i tell xorg not to load it [09:50] murmel: if i add nomodeset to kernel line - i can load successfully. but my backlight control doesn't work [09:50] and my radeontop utility says i have 100% GPU load [09:51] yeah there is definitely something going wrong. [09:51] without nomodeset - my interface broken. but i still can load something simple [09:51] [xatrix@MERNOV-NB ~]$ glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer" [09:51] OpenGL renderer string: llvmpipe (LLVM 13.0.1, 256 bits) [09:51] it's with 'nomodeset' [09:52] without - tons of errors [09:53] murmel: take a look please, what is now [09:53] https://imgur.com/elgg9sN.png [09:53] xatrix: nomodeset? [09:53] yes [09:54] if i run without nomodeset, GLX is broken [09:56] i mean makes sense that nomodeset disables gpu drivers ;). but on the other hand, I would suggest to reinstall === EriC^^_ is now known as EriC^^ [12:01] hello. I need a server on my PC where a friend can upload large files. what can I use which is EASY and QUICK to configure? [12:03] faLUKE: sftp? [12:03] EriC^^: I need a minimal setup [12:04] faLUKE: pretty minimal *shrug* [12:25] Some package (gitlab-ce) is not yet avaible to 22.04 so I modified its ".list" to hit focal instead of jammy and it worked. I did the same for another package (gitlab-runner) but after "apt update", apt is still not able to find the package while it's actually available in 20.04 systems. [12:26] I don't really get how versioning works. How come the first install worked but not the second since both are available in focal but not in jammy? [12:28] faLUKE: sftp is probably your best choice, prety easy to set up === dd3my is now known as Guest5219 [12:29] ducasse: right [12:30] faLUKE: set it up to use keys for authentication, to add some security [12:30] you can also run it in a chroot to not give them full acces to your system [12:35] Hi all === xenial is now known as Guest9963 [13:06] HI [13:07] i just need friends to talk and share here [13:11] baby100b: go to #ubuntu-offtopic === babylv00b is now known as babyl100b [13:58] so, this is the context of my question: ubuntu 20, xfce, chromium installed through snap. [13:58] there is a launcher on xfce's panel for chromium. this launcher breaks when chromium updates. [13:59] but seemingly fixes itself when a desktop shortcut for chromium is used. [13:59] does that rings any bell? [14:04] StephenLynx: you could ask in #xubuntu (pointing out that you've installed ubuntu, then xfce somehow) [14:04] !yy.mm | StephenLynx [14:04] StephenLynx: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle === DD3my_ is now known as DD3my === xenial is now known as Guest5928 [14:06] "somehow"? it's just sudo apt install xfce4 [14:10] StephenLynx: ok, it would be good to point this out. if you want the full functionality of a xubuntu desktop, you should probably install xubuntu-desktop, or at least see what elese it would install in addition to what you already have now, and may be missing. [14:11] what is "full functionality" of xubuntu? [14:11] isn't it just a DE? [14:12] it is an ubuntu flavor, providing a (customized) distribution of the xfce desktop and xfwm window manager. [14:13] and is the xfce4 package expected to have the launchers breaking when the launched software updates through snap? [14:14] i do not know. maybe folks in #xubuntu would know, or reviewing the packages xubuntu-desktop would additionally install could tell. [14:15] but I did not install xubuntu. I installed ubuntu and a new DE. [14:21] StephenLynx, snaps adhere to the XDG desktop standards, if the launcher icon disappears (which it does not on any other desktops), there must be a bug with XFCEs XDG compliance [14:22] (well, it disappears everywhere due to the nature of snaps, but should show up again a few seconds later when the update was done) === xenial is now known as Guest5065 [15:05] Can anyone recommend one of those services where you can sorta pastebin stuff from your terminal? [15:05] not pastebeing specifically, but there used to be one calle 0x00 or something like that [15:05] termbin [15:06] cat ~/some_file.txt | nc termbin.com 9999 [15:07] i rather use paste.ubuntu.com, to get control over pasted notes ( read delete) [15:07] but it needs an account [15:23] oerheks: thank you. The problem with termbin is the 9999 port [15:23] oke [15:25] xipper: 0x0.st and ix.io. let's move to #ubuntu-offtopic if you have more questions on this. [15:27] tomreyn: thank you === elkclone is now known as Guest2298 === x1 is now known as wellwm === xenial is now known as Guest7005 === ingsock96414606 is now known as ingsock9641460 === solsTiCe1 is now known as solsTiCe [17:13] "but I did not install xubuntu. I..." <- Well, Ubuntu plus XFCE essentially qualifies as Xubuntu with regards to questions regarding XFCE, even if you didn't install the entire Xubuntu experience. === MrC is now known as MrCthulhu [18:11] hig uys [18:11] Hi Guys [18:11] Just wanted to review here, Xubuntu is pretty hard to use compared to Lubuntu [18:12] I have to CLI unzip tar files, other distros unpack them automatically in GUI [18:12] let me get this straight: if i install Ubuntu LTS, i get 5 year updates. If i install Xubuntu LTS, i get 3 years updates. but if i install Xubuntu Server, and run "sudo tasksel install xubuntu-desktop", then i get 5 years updates? [18:12] There is no ' Xubuntu Server' [18:13] err that didn't come out right [18:13] ill try again: let me get this straight: if i install Ubuntu LTS, i get 5 year updates. If i install Xubuntu LTS, i get 3 years updates. but if i install Ubuntu Server, and run "sudo tasksel install xubuntu-desktop", then i get 5 years updates? [18:13] and no, xubuntu deskto gets 3 years, whatever the base; gnome or server [18:14] 'ubuntu-support-status' gives a clue about support time [18:15] yeah [18:15] If you install Ubuntu, you get 5 years [18:15] You can isntall Ubuntu, then change the Desktop Environment [18:15] install [18:26] That's a bit misleading, so here's another take at an explanation: Support durations refer to repositories and lists of packages really. All packages in main get 5 years of support. Most packages of other desktops are usually in universe, thus get support for as long as the MoTUs care about and the flavors promise to support them. [18:35] ayuda para el serviddor de merida [18:36] porfavor [18:36] !es [18:36] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. [18:39] graacias [18:47] the firefox uninstaller seems broken: apt install firefox; apt purge firefox; leaves /snap/bin/firefox intact [18:47] and it even works! after the purge [18:47] on ubuntu 22.04 [18:48] anyway.. how do i uninstall firefox? [18:50] snap remove firefox [18:51] and the folder with settings stays, so i guess you need --purge [19:28] I'm following this guide: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/windows-ubuntu-hyperv-containers#7-run-an-ubuntu-container-on-hyperv but when I get to step 7 I get the error: no matching manifest for windows/amd64 10.0.22621 in the manifest list entries. Can someone help? [19:31] nvm I got it. Had to turn on experimental features for docker engine [19:31] ^ should update the guide to specify that. [19:32] docker - windows issue .. === Mentos is now known as MentozZz [19:47] every time i install something, it ask me "which services do you want to restart?" and there's just 1 option and it often has nothing to do with the app im installing, how do i tell it to stop doing that? https://i.imgur.com/5qyCGRn.png [19:48] hans_, what tool is this? githubtool that loads a newer kernel from mainline?? [19:49] oerheks: apt [19:49] apt ask me that question every time i install anything [19:49] not on my ubuntu.. [19:49] so, what linux is that? [19:50] here i installed Visual Studio Code, https://i.imgur.com/uI0kUEZ.png [19:50] oerheks: Ubuntu 22.04 installed from the server iso, https://ubuntu.hi.no/releases/22.04.1/ubuntu-22.04.1-live-server-amd64.iso [19:50] hans_: is this a docker image? [19:51] leftyfb: nope. [19:51] or are you asking what "networkd-dispatcher.service" is? cus idk, it was something the Ubuntu installer added by default [19:52] hans_: bamfdaemon [19:52] it's from bamfdaemon [19:52] why is apt-utils not installed? [19:52] which I've never heard of and do not have installed on any desktop or server [19:53] anyway, never seen this [19:53] hans_: you said your install is a server, but this bamfdaemon is clearly related to a desktop environment [19:54] i installed ubuntu from the server installer iso, then i did "sudo apt install xubuntu-core" [19:54] why not just install xubuntu? [19:54] and when it asked me if i wanted "full ubuntu server" or "minimal ubuntu server", i said minimal [19:55] leftyfb: if i install xubuntu then it gets configured to use the xubuntu mirrors, which stop security updates after 3 years. if i install xubuntu server + "sudo apt install xubuntu-core" then its configured to use normal Ubuntu repos which stop security updates after 5 years [19:56] uh [19:56] I don't think that's true [19:56] There is no ' Xubuntu Server' [19:56] wfewfw [19:56] and we discussed this.. [19:56] sorry, i meant Ubuntu Server [19:56] I think after 3 years you stop getting updates for the xubuntu-related packages [19:56] no, you get 3 years for the desktop [19:56] regardless of how you installed it [19:56] hans_: your "workaround" isn't [19:57] well i want 5 years of security updates for the kernel if i can get it [19:57] some guest after that claimed otherwise [19:57] hans_: you will get that [19:57] hans_: regardless of which ubuntu you install [19:58] hans_: regardless, remove this bamfdaemon and you won't get those prompts anymore [20:02] I'm trying to decide which OS uses less default resources, Xubuntu or Lubuntu? [20:03] i think Lubuntu .. [20:03] !flavors [20:03] Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours [20:03] ldxe or xfce [20:03] Guest97: try them both and see which one works best for you [20:03] lubuntu is easier [20:03] better interface [20:03] but that would be 100 mb or so.. [20:03] which is most lightweight [20:04] as long as you have 4gb for 64 bit, you are fine [20:04] yeah [20:04] once you start chromium or firefox that all really doesnt matter anymore. choose what you like best [20:04] how much lighter is lububtu compared to ubuntu [20:05] Guest97: try them out. See which one performs better for you uses [20:05] yes but statistically [20:06] Guest97: we don't have statistics and that is beyond the scope of this channel [20:06] Guest97: you can always ask for opinions in #ubuntu-offtpic [20:07] for windows answers [20:07] saltd: huh? [20:07] leftyfb hah [20:07] saltd: can we help you with something? [20:08] leftyfb yes call medics looks like i've losing my mind with these russian milk products [20:08] and call the police [20:08] saltd: trolling is offtopic here. Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic [20:08] russia,st-petersburg rozenshteyna street 24-26 [20:09] "trolling is offtopic here" man did u see channel where there was rules "trolling here [20:09] " [20:09] ??? [20:09] saltd: please stop [20:09] 0xc000005 [20:09] ok [20:09] * saltd stopping ... [20:13] * saltd stopped. [21:06] Guys, can I roll back an install. I installed ubuntu server then upgraded it to Ubuntu desktop. Can I go back to server [21:06] they're not really different things, they're just sets of packages you have or don't have [21:06] so i'm sure you can go back [21:06] but i don't know if there's some simple command for it [21:07] apt remove? :) [21:07] or maybe purge [21:10] there are no restore points. [21:15] unless you have snapshots on your zfs rood fs :) [21:15] Well it seems to be removing stuff, lets see what happens [21:15] (which requires having a zfs root fs in the first place) [21:15] just set boot to multi target [21:16] systemctl get-default # shows what is loaded [21:17] https://www.systutorials.com/change-systemd-boot-target-linux/, interesting [21:17] systemctl set-default multi-user.target [21:17] vs graphical.target === MentozZz is now known as ImNotAsleep_tomr === ImNotAsleep_tomr is now known as NotAsleep_tomrey === NotAsleep_tomrey is now known as NotAsleepTomreyn [21:32] Package 'ubuntu-desktop' is not installed, so not removed [21:32] I still have a basic gui [21:33] odd [21:33] Blue tabs [21:34] removing a package does not (necessarily) remove packages it depended on [21:35] have you checked what apt autoremove tells you it'd remove? [21:39] The list is long gnome etc, I'll just re-install it again I didn't have much on it that can't be put back in a few mins. Thanks everybody [21:41] you don't need gnome [21:41] it's only installed because you installed the desktop thing [21:41] along with probably most of the rest of the things on that list [21:41] autoremove removes things that were auto installed as dependency for some package, but aren't needed anymore [21:42] Yeah i did still got the gui though odd [21:52] Hello. I need some help. I have /dev/sda paritioned for Windows 10 and Ubuntu /sda1 is my EFI /sda2 is MicosofReserved /sda3 and /sda4 is used by Windows and /sda5 is where Ubuntu lives. I can't get a boot menu to show up to allow me to choosean OS it just boots into Ubuntu can someone help me get dual boot working please [21:54] MannyLNJ: have you considered installing a boot chooser like refind? [21:54] cbreak, I have no. No [21:55] if you want, you can also configure grub to wait for you to select something else to boot [21:55] it can continue to boot windows [21:55] both options are viable. [21:55] cbreak, I thought I had configured grub for that but I don't get a grub screen [21:56] check your /etc/default/grub [21:56] what's the GRUB_TIMEOUT? and GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE? [21:56] Timeout is 10 and style is menu [21:57] did you follow the comment in the start of the file? [21:57] (running update-grub ?) [21:57] Yes I did that [21:57] I jyst installed refind let me reboot and see if that is loading now [21:57] you might have to run refind-mkdefault first === elastic_dog is now known as Guest8653 === jesopo is now known as jess-o-lantern === launchd is now known as hexley [23:22] ping [23:25] bsmith09311: pong === bsmith0931 is now known as chamgemerandomly === bsmith090 is now known as bsmith0931 [23:51] ping [23:53] ! ping | bsmith09311 [23:53] bsmith09311: pong! === elastic_dog is now known as Guest2195