[02:43] <nithinkadakkal[m> How install hp 1108 printer  Ubuntu 22.04
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> you might need the latest hplip from hp itself for some printer models nithinkadakkal[m
[02:45] <nithinkadakkal[m> Yes I already try it
[02:45] <lotuspsychje> nithinkadakkal[m: but first try; sudo apt install hplip hplip-gui from the default repos, then add printer from gnome settings
[02:45] <nithinkadakkal[m> I already tried it
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> nithinkadakkal[m: one of these 2 methods needs to work
[02:49] <nithinkadakkal[m> After 10 am I will share my anydesk id . U try it
[02:50] <arraybolt3[m]> nithin kadakkal: That is a Really Bad Idea. Don't give random strangers on the Internet remote access to your computer.
[02:50] <arraybolt3[m]> (There are a few isolated exceptions, but this isn't one of them.)
[02:50] <arraybolt3[m]> s/isolated/exceptions/, s/exceptions/to that rule/
[02:50] <ownner> e ai?
[02:50] <ownner> algum br?
[02:50] <nithinkadakkal[m> It's newly installed pc
[02:50] <nithinkadakkal[m> No data
[02:51] <arraybolt3[m]> nithin kadakkal: Yeah but how do you know the person who's remoting in won't install a backdoor, spyware, or something else equally bad?
[02:51] <arraybolt3[m]> (Not that I would do that, but I'm not the only one in here.)
[02:53] <ownner> only speak english here?
[02:54] <arraybolt3[m]> ownner: This channel only speaks English, however there are other channels in other languages for Ubuntu support. What language do you speak?
[02:54] <arraybolt3[m]> (Google Translate thinks it's Portuguese, is that right?(
[02:54] <ownner> I speak portuguese
[02:55] <arraybolt3[m]> !pt | ownner
[02:56] <ownner> ok, thx  :D
[02:56] <arraybolt3[m]> No problem. :)
[03:57] <arraybolt3[m]> What would be a good channel to ask about possible hardware concerns in? I'm running Kubuntu 22.04.1.
[03:58] <arraybolt3[m]> (I'm mainly concerned about HDD longevity and the fact that my HDD is getting hot when under heavy use. Yes, it's a spinning rust disk.)
[03:58] <samy1028> arraybolt3[m], have you looked at SMART data on it?  Does it show any issues?
[03:58] <samy1028> And define "heavy use".
[03:59] <arraybolt3[m]> SMART data looked fine to me (though I can share it for more trained eyes to look at).
[03:59] <arraybolt3[m]> Heavy use = about 120 GB or so of writes in one fell swoop, repeated somewhere between daily and every other day.
[04:00] <arraybolt3[m]> SMART data: https://termbin.com/eef4
[04:03] <arraybolt3[m]> (It is a rather old drive - my current computer is an old HP Z220 SFF Workstation from a business, and this is the original drive that came with it. My OS and important files are on a separate SSD that I installed, but the /boot and /boot/efi partitions and various non-critical but actively used files are stored on the HDD. Yes, the bootloader and kernel is on a separate drive from the rest of the OS - I'm booting from NVMe on a system
[04:03] <arraybolt3[m]> without BIOS NVMe support.)
[04:06] <enigma9o7> how do you tell the temp of your spinning disk?
[04:07] <arraybolt3[m]> enigma9o7: The SMART data shows it, but also, the bezel on the front of my computer's chassis fell off and the drive itself is exposed. I can touch it and it's aaaaaalmost hot enough to burn me.
[04:07] <enigma9o7> I'm more asking for myself, not to help you.... how do I check smart data?
[04:08] <arraybolt3[m]> sudo smartctl --all /dev/sd* (replace * as appropriate).
[04:08] <enigma9o7> my laptop overheats all the time and i can't figure out why
[04:08] <arraybolt3[m]> Or if you want tons of details, "sudo smartctl -x /dev/sd*"
[04:08] <enigma9o7> i already changed the cpu/gpu thermal paste
[04:09] <enigma9o7> hmmm command not found, what pacakge?
[04:09] <samy1028> enigma9o7, I've had overheating laptops.  Some are just design flaws.  Others are due to inadequate GPU cooling.  Or, it could be the air flow is clogged (pet hair) or the fan itself is failing.  Had that happen on one.  Replaced the CPU fan and next time I powered on the temp was about 12 degrees cooler.
[04:09] <arraybolt3[m]> I think it's smartmontools?
[04:10] <enigma9o7> 12 degrees cooler would be nice.  50 would be better.
[04:11] <enigma9o7> hmm it wants to do postfix config weird stuff
[04:12] <samy1028> arraybolt3[m], 45 C is only 113 F?  I know that's fairly warm but not impossible.
[04:13] <enigma9o7> nobody talks about computer temps in F......
[04:13] <samy1028> But then, on one of my servers, under "light" load, CPU1 = 53C/127F, CPU2 = 55C/131F, System exhaust = 41C/105F, Inlet = 27C / 80F.  This is sitting in a datacenter.
[04:14] <enigma9o7> I'm at 80C right now doing nothing.  My PC shuts itself down at 100?  All it takes for me to make it hit that is encode some video or run make for a few minutes, etc.
[04:14] <samy1028> enigma9o7, sorry, I'm one of those "uneducated Americans" that uses Farenheit. :)
[04:14] <arraybolt3[m]> enigma9o7: Sounds like you have my mom's laptop.
[04:15] <arraybolt3[m]> HP Pavilion dv7?
[04:15] <enigma9o7> Me?  Nah Sony VPCF115FM
[04:15] <samy1028> Yeah, 80C is a bit too high for non-intensive use!
[04:15] <enigma9o7> But I have replaced the BDROM with 5tb hard drive, and replaced the original hard drive iwth SSD.
[04:15] <enigma9o7> so I dunno if maybe thats affecting cooling somehow
[04:15] <samy1028> when was the last time you blew out the fan and air flow openings?
[04:16] <enigma9o7> I took apart the whole thing and replaced the thermal paste.  THere was no dust cuz I'd already tried cleaning that a few months before, and even then it wasnt bad.
[04:17] <enigma9o7> I get thermal shutdown several times/day, it is annoying.
[04:17] <samy1028> worst case - get a laptop cooler?  I had to get one years ago for a laptop.
[04:18] <arraybolt3[m]> enigma9o7: Did you glob on tons of thermal paste? I'm pretty sure that if you do that it doesn't work.
[04:18] <enigma9o7> i already use an awesome laptop cooler
[04:18] <enigma9o7> without that i cant even stay turnedon
[04:18] <enigma9o7> without the cooler i can barely use it 5-10 mins.
[04:18] <arraybolt3[m]> Then again it may just be a design flaw - my mom's laptop routes the entire cooling system for both the CPU and GPU through a single fan with a very insignificant air inlet on the bottom.
[04:19] <enigma9o7> Yeah I used plenty of thermal paste, a pea sized amount on cpu and gpu/ea.
[04:19] <samy1028> only other thought is perhaps the fan is not pulling/pushing air efficiently or is starting to fail.
[04:19] <arraybolt3[m]> enigma9o7: That may be too much.
[04:19] <arraybolt3[m]> Too much thermal paste can be bad.
[04:19] <enigma9o7> my understanding is too much is only bad if its conductive, or to clean it up later
[04:20] <arraybolt3[m]> I dunno how big the GPU and CPU are on your systems, but a pea-sized amount would have been shockingly overkill on mine.
[04:20] <enigma9o7> otherwise it makes no difference, just spreads heat, cuz the heat sinks clamp down and spread it out everywhere
[04:20] <enigma9o7> i also spent several hours cleaning old thermal paste and stuff before putting on the new one, made those IC's shine like a mirror
[04:20] <arraybolt3[m]> Well, do your research. My understanding was that too much allows it to flow out from under the heatsink in actual operation.
[04:21] <enigma9o7> I'm about out of ideas, so redoing it with less paste is probably worth my time, I'll try this week.
[04:21] <arraybolt3[m]> And when I cleaned out mine, there was barely any thermal paste between the ICs and the heatsink, but tons of it glopped out all over the place around them both. :/
[04:21] <arraybolt3[m]> And baked to a crisp, I should add. Didn't know you could convert thermal paste to a kind of cement before, but cleaning that laptop taught me.
[04:22] <enigma9o7> yeah it solidifies, but supposed to be making thermal contact everywhere by then.
[04:22] <enigma9o7> is what i read
[04:23] <arraybolt3[m]> If all else fails, take the motherboard out, mount it to the back of a monitor, build a fancy case around it, and then put a box fan in place of a rear cover. Problem solved, you have the world's best-cooled All-In-One.
[04:24] <arraybolt3[m]> (OK so maybe don't actually do that, but I saw some guy do something similar (minus the box fan) before and it looked really cool when he was done.)
[04:27] <enigma9o7> https://termbin.com/bah1 finally
[04:28] <enigma9o7> I don't see temperature there.
[04:28] <nithinkadakkal[m> How to install hp 1108  printer in Ubuntu 22.04
[04:29] <enigma9o7> oh maybe i do; temperature celisus 30c
[04:29] <arraybolt3[m]> enigma9o7: 194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   030   043   000    Old_age   Always       -       30 (0 15 0 0 0)
[04:30] <enigma9o7> yeah so certainly not a heat problem there
[04:30] <enigma9o7> nithink: what happened when you try printer from settings?  what desktop?
[04:35] <nithinkadakkal[m> I already checked
[04:35] <nithinkadakkal[m> Error
[04:40] <enigma9o7> what did you already check?  what are you even talking about?  what error?  can you describe what happened when you try printer from settings?  what desktop environemtn are you using?
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[06:42] <manwhowouldbekin> Greetings all! Every now and then the gnome-shell on my Ubuntu freezes. It used to happen on Ubuntu 20.04 and now happens on 22.04 as well. It begins with an app becoming unresponsive and popping a warning about that. If I can manage to sneak 'killall -SIGQUIT gnome-shell' at that moment, then things will typically unfreeze. Otherwise, I end up doing a hard reboot. Any help on troubleshooting and fixing this is
[06:42] <manwhowouldbekin> appreciated.
[07:23] <arraybolt3[m]> manwhowouldbekin: Are you able to switch to a TTY when this happens (Ctrl+Alt+F3)?
[10:44] <bruno_> hallo
[10:46] <respawn> bruno_: welcome this i ubuntu support channel
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:58] <bryan> hello
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> welcome bryan
[11:59] <bryan> hi @lotuspsychje
[12:00] <bryan> im having trouble to get an update on ubuntu can someone help please
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> bryan: could you pastebin your error apt gives you please, see if the volunteers can help you with that
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> !paste
[12:01] <bryan> ok
[12:12] <bryan> i cant use imgur firefox not working and upgrade threw terminal not working
[12:23] <bryan> lotuspsychje,
[13:07] <cbreak> https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/09/30/ubuntu-22-10-kinetic-kudu-final-beta-released/, is the beta stable enough?
[13:13] <ravage> the name is a hint
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> :p
[13:15] <cbreak> hmm... kinetic... kudi...
[13:15] <cbreak> let me wikipedia that
[13:15] <cbreak> doesn't look very robust :/
[13:16] <ravage> at least you came to the right conclusion
[13:17] <respawn> yeah 22.10 is beta
[13:28] <GSMarquis> I think I read it will be out in a few weeks around 21st
[13:29] <ravage> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/kinetic-kudu-release-schedule/27263
[13:39] <pickanick> Hi I am on Kubuntu 22.04 having a problem with my ethernet connection, which used to work fine. It now cycles through "Setting Network Address" And (something like) "Connection ... Deactivated" "Configuration was unavailable"
[13:41] <pickanick> I considered that maybe the cable was bad and connected through another cable to my ISP box, problem continues
[13:42] <pickanick> I tried deleting the "wired ethernet" in system settings and added in a new one, problem continues.
[13:54] <pickanick> Also getting in dmesg messages like iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting 0x0.
[13:55] <pickanick> If anyone suggested something a few minutes ago please resend.
[13:58] <cbreak> pickanick: you're not using wifi, are you?
[14:00] <pickanick> I am now, because the ethernet is not working
[14:02] <pickanick> actually iwlwifi is dumping a lot of debugging info into dmesg
[14:02] <rob0> Looks like you're missing the iwlwifi firmware (or it needs to be updated)
[14:03] <rob0> but your best bet is probably to get the Ethernet working
[14:05] <pickanick> Dell just replaced the motherboard two days ago, so any firmware update the OS installed has been taken away. How do I reinstall the iwlwifi firmware?
[14:05] <pickanick> And same if ethernet needs firmware update, altho I never heard of such. How do I get the Ethernet working again?
[14:12] <pickanick> Although actually I believe the wireless card is actually the same as before, because it was removed from the old motherboard and put into the new one. So the ethernet port changed, not the wifi card.
[14:14] <pickanick> Does Ubuntu have some sort of hardware probe command that's usually run on install? Or is that only Debian?
[14:15] <murmel> pickanick: what do you want to figure out, as debian and ubuntu have the same tools available
[14:17] <pickanick> Do you have history scrollback for the past 35 minutes?
[14:17] <murmel> nope
[14:18] <murmel> I mean what are you looking for? if the kernel uses a driver for the device or something different
[14:19] <pickanick> My motherboard was changed, and although it seemed to work for a day, currently the ethernet does not complete a connection.
[14:19] <pickanick> It now cycles through "Setting Network Address" And (something like) "Connection ... Deactivated" Network management Popup: Wired Interface : "IP configuration was unavailable"
[14:20] <murmel> pickanick: does your dhcp/router work with other devices?
[14:20] <pickanick> yes.
[14:20] <pickanick> When I looked into dmesg for troubleshooting I noticed that iwlwifi was basically dumping voluminous debug traces into dmesg.
[14:21] <murmel> can you reshare the link? or did you never paste it?
[14:22] <pickanick> not yet, I can. My first thought was maybe I need to tell Ubuntu 22.04 to rescan the hardware and make sure the right drivers were installed. Or is that automatic on boot?
[14:23] <pickanick> should I post 270K of dmesg or just a short snippet?
[14:24] <murmel> pickanick: if it worked before, it should definitely work, except the kernel would identify the hw falsely (very unlikely). there is no real way to "probe" like on windows for example
[14:24] <murmel> pickanick: everything
[14:28] <pickanick> murmel: the ubuntu paste wants a login...
[14:29] <tomreyn> !paste
[14:29] <hans_> after "sudo apt install nginx php-fpm;" how do you connect php-fpm to nginx from a bash script?
[14:31] <tomreyn> hans_: the same way you'd do it manually
[14:32] <hans_> echo 'server{listen 80 default_server;listen [::]:80 default_server;root /var/www/html; index index.php; server_name _;location ~ \.php$ {include snippets/fastcgi-php.conf;fastcgi_pass unix:/run/php/php8.1-fpm.sock;}}' > /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/default;
[14:32] <tomreyn> (but it's not exactly clear what you mean by "connect php-fpm to nginx", nor which ubuntu release you're running (and thus which nginx and php-fpm versions))
[14:33] <tomreyn> please use a pastebin for posting multi-line output
[14:35] <hans_> tomreyn: pastebin such as? the ubuntu pastebin is kindof shit, because it requires you to log in to view pastes, and you can't wget them without cookie hacking or some such. the debian pastebin is kindof shit because it rejects single-line pastes and often have false-positive spam filters, and the maintainer never ever responds to false positive bug reports. pastebin.com is kindof shit for multiple reasons, including spam filter
[14:35] <hans_> false positives.
[14:35] <hans_> pretty sure i have false positive bugreports on the debian pastebin from like 2015 that is still waiting for an answer from the maintainer
[14:37] <hans_> termbin is probably the nicest, but have data cutoff issues
[14:38] <hans_> (sometimes cutting off data early on fully valid utf8)
[14:40] <hans_> maybe https://paste.centos.org is good
[14:40] <pickanick> and dpaste does not crop the paste if its too long, it just ... eventually .... rejects it.
[14:43] <tomreyn> !paste | hans
[14:43] <tomreyn> hans_ even
[14:44] <tomreyn> termbin would have worked fine for your current needs, too
[14:46] <pickanick> https://dpaste.com/ARMVMNKYY
[14:48] <pickanick> rob0> said: your best bet is probably to get the Ethernet working; yes, but how?
[14:49] <pickanick> The dpaste link has the dmesg log showing lots of iwlwifi errors.
[14:52] <oerheks> pickanick, is windows installed too, on this machine? fastboot enabled?
[14:52] <oerheks> try disabling fastboot, else this bugreport gives loading an older firmware https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1967842
[14:55] <pickanick> I'm happy to disable fastboot, is that a BIOS setting or ??
[14:55] <respawn> yes
[14:55] <murmel> pickanick: there is a fastboot uefi option, but also inside windows
[14:56] <tomreyn> if     ls -l /lib/firmware iwlwifi-9260-th-b0-jf-b0-46.ucode    does not show that this file is 1489548 bytes long then you could try replacing it by this: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/plain/iwlwifi-9260-th-b0-jf-b0-46.ucode
[14:56] <tomreyn> pickanick: ^
[14:57] <tomreyn> (move the original one out of the way, don't delete it)
[14:57] <pickanick> I haven't booted windows for years, I can check the BIOS first, its possible the new MB BIOS has fastboot enabled.
[14:59] <pickanick> In BIOS do I need UEFI Networking enabled? Or just "internal NIC enabled w/o PXE" ?
[14:59] <tomreyn> latest upstream firmware upgrade notice: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-firmware/CA+5PVA7_cORzYdNZ5RPGNKEdWS6wTETD92SP+=+kyWyMKZx0gw@mail.gmail.com/T/
[15:00] <tomreyn> pickanick: the latter is sufficient
[15:00] <pickanick> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1491056 Aug 31 19:11 /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-9260-th-b0-jf-b0-46.ucode
[15:00] <pickanick> why would it be a different size?
[15:01] <tomreyn> because they get updates
[15:02] <tomreyn> the package in jammy-updates is package version 20220329.git681281e4-0ubuntu3.5 according to https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy-updates/linux-firmware
[15:02] <tomreyn> which hints on it being based on a linux-firmware git commit  in march. but there were later commits to this git repository, the latest updating this file was in june
[15:03] <tomreyn> ubuntu's jammy package doesn't include this, yet, but you may need the latest firmware file if you have a recent chipset on your replacement board.
[15:03] <pickanick> My linux-firmware is Version: 20220329.git681281e4-0ubuntu3.5  . I think you are saying is that the ... ah.
[15:07] <pickanick> Given that the BIOS was 1.5 instead of 1.16, the chipset could be older(!) Is there any way to check that?
[15:07] <pickanick> If I rename the original file and copy in the newer one, do I need to do nothing? restart networking? reboot?
[15:08] <tomreyn> if your bios is older on an intel machine with onboard iwlwifi then doing a bios upgrade is a good idea for sure.
[15:09] <pickanick> Thanks, already done :)
[15:10] <tomreyn> i don't think you can check the wireless chipset age / revision unless they chose to indicate and increase the hardware revision printed in lspci output, and you have the old one to compare to.
[15:11] <pickanick> [Note to all: save lspci output before replacing motherboard!]
[15:11] <tomreyn> something that maybe needs to be explained also is that firmware stored in /lib/firmware is only loaded during (linux / kernel module) runtime. it is not used to upgrade the on-device firmware.
[15:12] <pickanick> thanks
[15:12] <tomreyn> journalctl can get you old logs, you would probably also find some chipset info in there.
[15:13] <tomreyn>   -S --since=DATE            Show entries not older than the specified date
[15:13] <tomreyn>   -U --until=DATE            Show entries not newer than the specified date
[15:15] <pickanick> There are six /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-9260-th-b0-jf-b0-??.ucode  # are these different versions or for different hardwares?
[15:18] <tomreyn> those can be for different hardware. usually, kernel modules define which firmware files (up to which ?? number) should be sought and loaded for which specific chipset / hardware revision.
[15:20] <tomreyn> iwlwifi will probably look for the latest in a fixed range of ?? for this specific hardware revision and that is /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-9260-th-b0-jf-b0-46.ucode
[15:23] <pickanick> It has the same identifier. kernel: iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Detected Intel(R) Wireless-AC 9560 160MHz, REV=0x318  If this is a removable chip, it was removed from the old motherboard and placed into the replacement.
[15:27] <pickanick> https://dpaste.com/D7BEAZ3KN  is output from journalctl  |grep iwlwifi | grep -i detect
[15:29] <pickanick> Is 9260 the firmware for 9560  ?
[15:32] <pickanick> I'm going to try disabling fastboot in BIOS if it exists. If you have other thoughts I will try to stay connected on another device.
[15:36] <pick> BIOS fastboot options are Minimal,Thorough, Auto. It was set to Thorough.
[15:37] <pickanick> BIOS fastboot options are Minimal,Thorough, Auto. It was set to Thorough. What do you recommend?
[15:46] <howudodat> after reading and following this guide: https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Setting_up_a_Share_Using_Windows_ACLs I am trying to set ACLs on the share.  and am getting failed to enumerate objects in the container: Access is denied.  Config and some pertinent info is here: https://pastebin.com/wstUGTS8 and the error when adding Domain Admins as Ful Control is here: https://snipboard.io/K27jAc.jpg
[16:03] <pickanick> The newer 9260 firmware does not seem to make a difference.
[16:05] <pickanick> Any ideas on the ethernet  "Setting Network Address" -> "Connection ... deactivated"   Wired Interface : "IP configuration was unavailable"
[16:42] <alnr> trying to install xrdp on 22.04, getting chown: invalid group: _root:adm_   ( think the underscores are added by the error message)
[16:52] <Enissay> Vlc froze my 20.04. Ctrl+alt+Fn doesn't open any terminal to kill it... Now I can still hear vlc playing with black screen
[16:53] <Enissay> Actually, the F1 opens a gui new login window instead... While my frozen session in F2
[16:53] <Enissay> The other just yield black screens
[16:55] <Enissay> Any idea how to retrieve my session? I have plenty of unsaved files 😢
[16:59] <alkisg> Enissay: do you have the ssh server running?
[16:59] <alkisg> alnr: is there an adm group?
[16:59] <bparker> you could try to connect via VNC/etc. from another machine
[17:19] <alnr> alkisg not sure best way to see, but su adm says user adm does not exist or the user entry does not contain all the required fields
[17:19] <alkisg> alnr: getent group adm
[17:20] <alnr> alkisg returns nothing, but neither does getent group admasdf
[17:21] <alkisg> alnr: this means that something removed the adm group from your installation
[17:21] <alnr> where as getent group root does return root:x:0: so i guess adm not there
[17:21] <alkisg> Run this: cat /etc/group | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:21] <alkisg> So that we review your groups for other missing stuff
[17:23] <alnr> https://termbin.com/x3be
[17:27] <alkisg> alnr: with a quick glance, you seem to be missing at least avahi-autoipd, bluetooth, cdrom, plugdev, sudo. Are you certain this is a vanilla Ubuntu installation? Which version?
[17:27] <alkisg> E.g. Ubuntu GNOME 22.04, or Mint, or Pop OS?
[17:27] <alnr> this is on a vpn from racknerd, their 22.04 build (server)
[17:28] <user____> [
[17:28] <alkisg> alnr: do you have the sudo package installed? dpkg -l sudo
[17:28] <alnr> which i'm trying to turn into a xubuntu effectively
[17:28] <alnr> yes sudo works
[17:29] <alkisg> It works without a sudo group?! How?
[17:29] <alkisg> I guess they have a customized /etc/sudoers version. It looks rather different from vanilla Ubuntu then.
[17:29] <arraybolt3[m]> Will Racknerd allow you to install your own ISO of Ubuntu Server?
[17:30] <arraybolt3[m]> (Trying to troubleshoot this particular installation may be tricky - for one, we have no clue what else they may have broken in interesting ways in their own build, and for two, custom builds like this aren't really supported in this channel for that reason.)
[17:30] <alkisg> alnr: also try this one, it will take a long time but it will help us see how different it is. It's checking all files for modifications: sudo dpkg -V
[17:30] <alnr> i'm not sure , i be be concerned if it would work on their kvm
[17:30] <alkisg> sudo dpkg -V | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:30] <alkisg> ...and wait for a few minutes for it to finish
[17:30] <arraybolt3[m]> termbin might not let that go through (learned this from experience).
[17:31] <alkisg> It let the previous one
[17:31] <arraybolt3[m]> Maybe `sudo dpkg -V > dpkglog.txt && cat dpkglog.txt | nc termbin.com 9999` in the event it doesn't work (hopefully it will work).
[17:31] <alkisg> OK, I guess you mean they don't allow slow uploading
[17:31] <arraybolt3[m]> Right.
[17:31] <alnr> https://termbin.com/hihvw
[17:32] <alnr> for the first one
[17:32] <alkisg> alnr: and the output of this one? sudo md5sum /etc/sudoers
[17:33] <alkisg> md5sum /etc/sudoers /etc/sudoers*/*
[17:33] <alkisg> (I wonder how sudo works if they're shipping the stock sudoers configuration)
[17:34] <alnr> 44c75ff004a18eeefdde4c998914d6d3  /etc/sudoers.d/README
[17:34] <alnr> from 2nd md5sum. idk if it matters i have added one user to visudo
[17:34] <alkisg> And this? 791aa979aa5e859f9ba0112a9512158c  /etc/sudoers
[17:36] <alnr> alkisg what is that, not a cmd
[17:36] <alkisg> Anyway, for the initial question: sudo addgroup --system --gid 4 adm
[17:36] <alkisg> This will add the missing adm group
[17:36] <alkisg> And you'll see later how many other things are broken due to missing groups or modified configuration
[17:37] <alnr> ah tx will try that
[17:38] <alnr> at least, apt install xrdp runs thru now
[17:38] <alkisg> Btw, if you need them, cdrom=24, sudo=27, plugdev=46
[17:39] <alkisg> (the gids for the addgroup command)
[17:39] <alnr> and port 3389 opens, so thats good
[17:40] <alnr> (as ipv6:(  )
[17:43] <tomreyn> it's probably the firmware for "9260 and similar models" <pickanick> Is 9260 the firmware for 9560  ?
[17:44] <tomreyn> i assume "thorough" means fastboot=off, so i'd keep it set to that. <pickanick> BIOS fastboot options are Minimal,Thorough, Auto. It was set to Thorough. What do you recommend?
[17:46] <tomreyn> pickanick: for all we know, your wireless chipset did not change, your installed (per session) loadable firmware did not change (until i suggested you could give that a try), so it seems logical to assume that something else related to the mainboard, which was replaced, causes the misfunction / microcode SW error. it could be a bios setting. check also for secureboot (try disabling it if enabled).
[17:50] <tomreyn> pickanick: i don't think you provided feedback on whether the updated microcode (updated version of file /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-9260-th-b0-jf-b0-46.ucode ) improved things or not. did you have a chance to give this a try, yet?
[17:52] <tomreyn> i see i missed this question, which probably made you not test it, yet: <pickanick> If I rename the original file and copy in the newer one, do I need to do nothing? restart networking? reboot?
[17:52] <tomreyn> you would need to unload and reload the iwlwifi module as well as any modules depending on it.
[17:52] <tomreyn> rebooting is a way to ensure the same.
[17:53] <tomreyn> restarting networking is not.
[17:55] <pickanick> tomreyn: thank you for replying. I replaced it and rebooted, no difference.
[17:55] <pickanick> Secure Boot is a problem?
[17:56] <tomreyn> pickanick: not neccessarily, but it makes things a lot more complex.
[17:58] <tomreyn> pickanick: which kernel are you running there?
[17:58] <tomreyn> cat /proc/version*
[17:59] <pickanick> Linux version 5.15.0-48-generic (buildd@lcy02-amd64-080) (gcc (Ubuntu 11.2.0-19ubuntu1) 11.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Ubuntu) 2.38) #54-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 26 13:26:29 UTC 2022
[18:00] <pickanick> with * adds: Ubuntu 5.15.0-48.54-generic 5.15.53
[18:01] <tomreyn> you could try booting into the earlier build, see if this fixes it.
[18:02] <schuelermine> I have a question about how Ubuntu manages to set the font and icon theme for every user automatically
[18:02] <schuelermine> I know how I can manually change the theme and appearance settings using dconf & the user shell themes extension for a single user, how to theme GDM using dconf & /usr/share/gnome-shell/gnome-shell-theme.gresource, and how to enable extensions via GNOME shell modes
[18:02] <schuelermine> but how does Ubuntu ensure that all users have the same fonts and icon theme?
[18:02] <schuelermine> I’ve checked /etc/default & /etc/skel for anything that might be relevant but it’s just $SHELL, .profile & friends.
[18:15] <Enissay> alksg, not sure but good point... I'll check
[18:33] <Enissay> It didn't help killing vlc... Now I'm out of space... Syslog file is over 30gb
[18:48] <tomreyn> pickanick: in the future, please point it out then you seek help on the same topic on multiple channels at the same time.
[19:10] <pickanick> tomreyn: I'll try rebooting into the prior kernel. I went over to Kubuntu after it seemed quiet here.  I tried booting on the original 22.04 install USB, the Ethernet works fine, (so some things off with the installed and updated OS) however the iwlwifi errors happen there too.
[19:11] <tomreyn> there's always the chance that the hardware is just broken
[19:17] <HP-UX> Is it possible to install ubuntu without any desktop env. at all, so that I can use Xmonad cleanly
[19:18] <HP-UX> Do I need to start with the server image instead of the desktop image?
[19:18] <pickanick> tomreyn: yes.  Thank you for your help.
[19:19] <tomreyn> HP-UX: that's how you could start without a desktop environment, yes
[19:22] <HP-UX> tomreyn: I'm wanting to preserve @home subvolume,
[19:23] <tomreyn> HP-UX: you have not mentioned an earlier installation previously. i guess you may want to back it up then.
[19:23] <HP-UX> BRB
[19:41] <gamer101> hi
[19:41] <gamer101> anyone in here?
[19:41] <arraybolt3[m]> 👋
[19:41] <gamer101> hi
[19:42] <arraybolt3[m]> Welcome to the official Ubuntu live chat support channel! Anything we can help you with?
[19:42] <gamer101> yep
[19:42] <gamer101> you got me
[19:42] <gamer101> so
[19:42] <gamer101> ubuntu dosent install for me at all 22.04 i tried without bootloader diffrend bootloader dualbooting nomoset nomodeset
[19:42] <gamer101> nothing worked
[19:42] <gamer101> so i am sticking with gentoo and parrot os
[19:43] <gamer101> im ok with sticking with those
[19:43] <arraybolt3[m]> I assume you got error messages during the installation attempt?
[19:43] <gamer101> nope
[19:43] <gamer101> secure boot is off
[19:43] <gamer101> bootdevices
[19:43] <gamer101> checked almost 10000times
[19:43] <gamer101> so
[19:43] <arraybolt3[m]> Hmm. Are you interested in still trying to get Ubuntu to work? If so, we can try to install and then look at the logs.
[19:43] <gamer101> no
[19:43] <arraybolt3[m]> (Sometimes error info will be stashed away in a logfile where you don't see it unless you know to look for it.)
[19:44] <gamer101> im not
[19:44] <gamer101> i lost interest i mean ive been using linux for 6 years
[19:44] <gamer101> 7
[19:44] <gamer101> to be correct with 2023
[19:44] <gamer101> its just a big fail for my old pc
[19:44] <gamer101> im on a newer one
[19:44] <gamer101> but
[19:44] <gamer101> im running it has an ir chat now
[19:44] <gamer101> using arch linux
[19:44] <gamer101> sorry for betraying
[19:44] <rob0> <-- 24 years. But is this on topic here?
[19:45] <gamer101> lol
[19:45] <arraybolt3[m]> OK. Glad you found something that works well for you currently!
[19:45] <gamer101> you an assistant or s,tj
[19:45] <rob0> yep
[19:45] <gamer101> oh
[19:45] <gamer101> well gentoo is what i use
[19:45] <gamer101> daily driving
[19:45] <gamer101> coustum coded
[19:46] <gamer101> wait
[19:46] <gamer101> um arraybolt3[m]
[19:46] <gamer101> for somereason
[19:46] <gamer101> when the official one came out
[19:46] <gamer101> not 22.04.1
[19:46] <gamer101> 22.04
[19:47] <gamer101> oem install worked
[19:47] <gamer101> nomoset
[19:47] <gamer101> im guessing it's the linux kernel
[19:47] <gamer101> having trouble
[19:47] <arraybolt3[m]> If I were to guess, kernel problems would be my guess also.
[19:47] <arraybolt3[m]> Sometimes some kernels don't work with particular old hardware. Sometimes hardware is too new for a particular kernel.
[19:48] <arraybolt3[m]> Which would explain why Arch and Gentoo are working and Ubuntu isn't. OEM install may have been installing a newer kernel (though I don't know that for sure).
[19:48] <gamer101> hmm might be
[19:49] <gamer101> it does work on my desktop but idk i like more parrot os nowadays
[19:49] <gamer101> for coding
[19:50] <gamer101> um
[19:50] <gamer101> arraybolt3[m] im sorry if im disturbing
[19:51] <gamer101> from your job
[19:51] <gamer101> or smth
[19:51] <gamer101> $ sudo apt remove linux-image-$(uname -r) linux-headers-$(uname -r) You will need to reboot your system after the downgrade, in order to start utilizing the other kernel.
[19:51] <gamer101> this is what if ound
[19:52] <gamer101> the same thing for 22.04 and 5.14.0
[19:52] <gamer101> im guessing it might be kernels
[19:52] <gamer101> anyways
[19:52] <gamer101> it was nice speaking with you :)
[19:52] <gamer101> bye!
[20:09] <MrMobius> I used a USB modem briefly and now every time my computer starts, it wastes 90 seconds trying to find it although the modem not plugged in. How can I stop this? I remember modifying an interface file or something at some point but don't know what to Google to see what I did
[20:21] <interlaced> hi - what app do you use for change detection on a website?
[20:26] <oerheks> The site may serve pages with a LAST-MODIFIED header: do a HEAD request and extract that header.  >> curl --silent --head https://something | grep -i '^last-modified:'
[23:29] <lagunaloire> ubuntu retroarch seems to be missing the cores for snes9x and probably others
[23:30] <lagunaloire> i see libretro wrappers for snes9x but not the core
[23:31] <lagunaloire> probably the cores for the playstation are missing also
[23:32] <tomreyn> lagunaloire: in case you are referring to the "retroarch" snap at https://snapcraft.io/install/retroarch/ubuntu you may want to report this to the developer using the "Contact" link there
[23:33] <tomreyn> there are also debian packages in universe, though
[23:34] <tomreyn> (which may have been imported from debian)
[23:35] <lagunaloire> tomreyn i dont see any core emus for the retroarch front end in ubuntu jammys websites
[23:36] <tomreyn> are you now referring to https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/retroarch ?
[23:39] <lagunaloire> no apt-cache search retro doesn't show any retro cores in the ubuntu repositories
[23:40] <lagunaloire> tomreyn i havent been able to find any cores with apt
[23:40] <lagunaloire> tomreyn in the ubuntu jammy repositories
[23:41] <lagunaloire> tomreyn and i can't find snes9x either just zsnes
[23:44] <lagunaloire> tomreyn also i can't find epsxe in the repositories either or any of the plugins for epsxe version 1.6
[23:45] <lagunaloire> tomreyn they seem to have disappeared off the internet in less than 20 years
[23:46] <tomreyn> lagunaloire: chances are there were copyright issues and they were removed?
[23:46] <tomreyn> i'm not familiar with "retroarch" really.
[23:47] <lagunaloire> tomreyn since when did the internet care about copyright issues...there was all kinds of stuff on the internet 20 years ago
[23:48] <murmel> lagunaloire: since goverments try to datamine everything and people abide the law also on the internet
[23:49] <lagunaloire> tomreyn patches were being written for all kinds of japanese only games to make them understandable in english 20 years ago...has all this come to an end
[23:49] <tomreyn> lagunaloire: i have no insight into this.
[23:49] <murmel> lagunaloire: snes9x was removed from debian because of some reason/or combination of: RoQA; orphaned, dead upstream, low popcon
[23:50] <lagunaloire> murmel oh..because there hasn't been any code changes necessary it was deleted
[23:51] <ravage> didnt want to install packages into my system so i tried the snap. snes0x can be installed through the interface: https://i.imgur.com/MFigh51.png
[23:51] <murmel> lagunaloire: i honestly assume that there is no maintainer, not because of code change
[23:51] <ravage> *snes9x
[23:52] <murmel> hm honestly, upstream doesn't seem to be dead, which implies it's likely because the maintainer stopped maintaining it https://github.com/snes9xgit/snes9x/tags
[23:52] <lagunaloire> murmel oh...well it played quite a few of the games i bought including Uncharted Waters...which related to the real world
[23:53] <lagunaloire> murmel the idea of going where no man has gone before...breaking the boundaries of knowledge
[23:53] <lagunaloire> murmel in the days of exploration
[23:54] <lagunaloire> murmel when exploring new things/worlds was interesting
[23:56] <murmel> lagunaloire: seems like you need to rely on snap/flatpak to get that software
[23:56] <lagunaloire> murmel there was a time when nintendo wanted to pioneer the unknown with a cd based nintendo playstation for large cd games...but it quit the development
[23:57] <murmel> "pioneer", it was pressure from competition, but very much off topic
[23:57] <lagunaloire> murmel it was the biggest mistake nintendo ever made..because it opened the door for sony to use cd's and the rest was history when sony sold more than 155 million playstation 2's with dvds
[23:58] <lagunaloire> and nintendo did not get a dime fromm it
[23:58] <arraybolt3[m]> lagunaloire: This is the Ubuntu technical support room. Please remain on topic. We're happy to continue to discuss how to get your application working.
[23:58] <lagunaloire> arraybolt3 ok i am open to suggestions for getting the retro cores in the ubuntu repositories
[23:59] <murmel> lagunaloire: best would be to "upstream" it to debian, so ubuntu pulls it in ;)
[23:59] <lagunaloire> murmel ok i will try to leave a message to debian on the web somehow