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| Eickmeyer | *sigh* bug 1991418 | 16:53 |
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| ubot93 | Bug 1991418 in vlc (Ubuntu) "VLC unable to show MP4 video, plays audio fine" [Critical, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1991418 | 16:53 |
| Eickmeyer | I don't know why I even bother. | 16:53 |
| arraybolt3[m] | ...wow. | 16:54 |
| Eickmeyer | I didn't think I was out-of-line at all. | 16:56 |
| Eickmeyer | It wasn't even a warning, just a friendly reminder. | 16:56 |
| arraybolt3[m] | People don't ever like being told they did things wrong. | 16:57 |
| Eickmeyer | Sure, but I mean, that was a clear overreaction. | 16:58 |
| Eickmeyer | Seems like they have other beef with Ubuntu, and I just pushed them over the edge. | 17:00 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Sigh. And now I have an antagonistic crazy person fighting me over in Matrix HQ. | 17:00 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Well, they do have a point about the packaging I guess. I'll take a look at it. | 17:01 |
| Eickmeyer | They do, and I addressed it. | 17:02 |
| tsimonq2 | arraybolt3: Finally, after the marathon this has been, artwork has been uploaded to Kinetic. | 17:19 |
| arraybolt3[m] | \o/ | 17:19 |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: lubuntu-artwork (kinetic-proposed/universe) [22.10.1 => 22.10.2] (lubuntu) | 17:24 | |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I sent a letter of apology regardless. | 17:34 |
| arraybolt3[m] | How concerned should I be that the VLC signing key is expired? I'm trying to build VLC from the Kinetic packaging and am in security paranoia mode. | 17:49 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (Plus it has some warning about a SHA1 key when I go to build it.) | 17:50 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (And I can use GPG to verify it myself, but it gives me "key expired" warnings when I try to.) | 17:51 |
| RikMills | the comments in both bugs suggest to me that it you checkout the upstream git tag, bootstrap, and build with whatever the upstream wants as default options, it works | 17:56 |
| RikMills | pass the debian packaging build options to configure on the same thing, and the issue is there | 17:57 |
| arraybolt3[m] | So hopefully I just need to change the packaging build options to whatever upstream wants? | 17:57 |
| RikMills | or find the option debian is enabling that causes the issue | 17:58 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Which appears to be --disable-libva. | 17:59 |
| RikMills | arraybolt3[m]: well, I built the jammy package for jammy passing that, and it worked ok | 17:59 |
| RikMills | so not sure that is the issue, or if it is, not all of it | 18:01 |
| RikMills | anyway, if we enable libva in kinetic with ffmpeg5, it will just FTBFS | 18:02 |
| arraybolt3[m] | argh | 18:02 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (Should I be worried about the expired GPG key or should I just ignore it and start working? | 18:03 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (And did we fail to get ffmpeg5 support for VLC into Kinetic? I think it's supposed to work with that.) | 18:03 |
| RikMills | for just testing purposes, it is no big deal | 18:04 |
| RikMills | yes, it is supposed to work, but not with libva enabled | 18:04 |
| RikMills | upstream did not decide to fix that part | 18:04 |
| arraybolt3[m] | OK. Well I'll fiddle with it and see what I can make happen. | 18:04 |
| arraybolt3[m] | 🫠| 18:05 |
| RikMills | they hate it due to forever having issues anyway | 18:05 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Was migrating to ffmpeg4 from ffmpeg3 this painful? | 18:05 |
| RikMills | can't recall | 18:05 |
| RikMills | I am not sure why we transitioned this release | 18:06 |
| * arraybolt3[m] thinks we really should have something in place to block ffmpeg syncs from Debian in the future so that they can deal with it next time rather than us | 18:06 | |
| RikMills | I saw it there to snyc for some time, and thought nah, that looks dodgy | 18:06 |
| RikMills | but someone did in the end :/ | 18:06 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Yeah this only happens once every few years, but we don't ever want to do this again. | 18:07 |
| RikMills | I think it should have been left for the next cycle, where more things were fixed to support it | 18:07 |
| RikMills | but it happened! | 18:07 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Yeah. Making it so that it's not allowed to happen without multiple experienced developers on board would be nice. | 18:08 |
| arraybolt3[m] | I should point out that the expired VLC GPG key is in the actual Kinetic packaging itself - I did pull-lp-source vlc kinetic and its in there, so if that matters, now you know | 18:12 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | It keeps getting better and better. | 18:30 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Good news on the VLC debacle arraybolt3 , RikMills : https://tracker.debian.org/news/1369334/accepted-vlc-30174-5-source-into-unstable/ | 21:22 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | If only I didn't feel so bad... | 21:31 |
| arraybolt3[m] | <Eickmeyer[m]> "Good news on the VLC debacle..." <- Thanks! | 21:32 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Eickmeyer[m]: Oh crud, everything OK? | 21:32 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Just the stuff that transpired this morning left me feeling like I did the wrong thing in that. | 21:32 |
| arraybolt3[m] | me laughs in chagrin Great, I think that Debian just forced us to do an Ubuntu delta on VLC with the libva stuff. | 21:32 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | No, they didn't. It's a direct sync. No delta. | 21:33 |
| arraybolt3[m] | I thought enabling libva support caused FTBFS. | 21:33 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (In Kinetic at least.) | 21:33 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | They disabled all references to libva. | 21:33 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Eickmeyer[m]: Hey, we all make mistakes. You even sent an apology letter. | 21:33 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (I've messed stuff way worse.) | 21:34 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I think they were upset at Ubuntu for other stuff and I pushed them over the edge never to return. | 21:35 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Canonical and Microsoft were able to partner in multiple ways eventually even after some high-ranking MS person called Linux a cancer and released misleading benchmark info. I think the frustration between VLC and Ubuntu will be way easier to fix. | 21:37 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | That high-ranking person was the CEO (at the time). That person is no longer CEO and even got ejected from the board over 10 years ago. | 21:38 |
| arraybolt3[m] | * cancer and MS released misleading | 21:38 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Well, hey, maybe if we help them with the other frustrations they've had with Ubuntu, we can make things work right again. | 21:39 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | And that's part of what I said in the apology letter. | 21:40 |
| RikMills | Eickmeyer[m]: weird, when I tried that revert it ftbfs | 21:45 |
| Eickmeyer | RikMills: Even removing the flags? | 21:46 |
| RikMills | should have been equivalent. if not the build system is weird and messed up | 21:47 |
| RikMills | but whatever works at this point I won't complain! | 21:48 |
| RikMills | :P | 21:48 |
| arraybolt3[m] | I'll work on it in a bit, slightly busy with a VM build over here right now but that shouldn't take much longer. | 21:48 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (OK more than slightly busy but whatever you know what I meant) | 21:48 |
| Eickmeyer | When I see it land, I'll do a backportpackage to my PPA to see how it builds on Ubuntu. | 21:49 |
| Eickmeyer | If it builds, I'll sync it. | 21:49 |
| RikMills | you can get it now with dget https://incoming.debian.org/debian-buildd/pool/main/v/vlc/vlc_3.0.17.4-5.dsc | 21:50 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Sounds like you guys are way ahead of me. Should I just let you do what you do for now and then help test when things are done? | 21:51 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | RikMills: TIL | 21:52 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Ok, let's see how this builds. | 21:54 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | arraybolt3, RikMills : In my PPA, still awaiting armhf, otherwise successful builds. | 22:20 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Only thing is, Sebastian linked the wrong LP bug. >.< | 22:20 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | And we have a complete BFS. | 22:29 |
| arraybolt3[m] | \o/ | 22:29 |
| RikMills | Eickmeyer[m]: but does it play mp4? :D | 22:47 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Eickmeyer: Link to PPA so I can install it real quick? | 22:47 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Eickmeyer: I can't find it on your Launchpad account. | 22:50 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Oh wait found it. Its the one you're never supposed to add. | 22:51 |
| * arraybolt3[m] adds it :P | 22:51 | |
| arraybolt3[m] | (Er, one of the one's you're never supposed to add.) | 22:52 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | arraybolt3: I was about to say, narrow that down. XD | 22:57 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Sorry about that. ERR: Was Driving | 22:57 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Eickmeyer: OK so that's an improvement. The first frame or first few frames of the video play, then it stalls. | 22:58 |
| arraybolt3[m] | .ogv video works, .mp4 aaaaalmost works. | 22:59 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Hmmm... Let me test. | 22:59 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (Sometimes it won't even play the first few frames, but usually it does.) | 22:59 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | No issues here. | 23:00 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Maybe you have something else installed that makes it work right? I'm using a drone video of snowy mountains from Pexels. | 23:00 |
| * arraybolt3[m] reboots to see if that helps anything | 23:00 | |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Just used two separate MP4 videos | 23:00 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (BTW this is an Intel-based Chromebook, if you have an NVIDIA card maybe that's making a difference.) | 23:01 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Yeah, this is on an Nvidia-exclusive custom machine. | 23:01 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I can try on my KFocus M1 with Nvidia card powered down. | 23:02 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Yeah, still only getting barely anything. I'm too chicken to install the PPA on my production desktop, but I'll give it a go in a VM. | 23:02 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | arraybolt3, RikMills : Confirmed, no MP4 issues on intel, made sure Nvidia chipset was powered down. | 23:10 |
| arraybolt3[m] | I guess I just have a grumpy Chromebook or grumpy Xubuntu Core installation then. | 23:11 |
| arraybolt3[m] | We'll see what the VM does in a bit. | 23:11 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | arraybolt3: Any results in your VM? | 23:45 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Got distracted :P | 23:46 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | heh | 23:46 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Still installing the VM, not because it's horribly slow, but because I'm multitasking. | 23:46 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | No worries. | 23:46 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | LIfe, uh, gets in the way. | 23:46 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Horrible movie IMO, but it did have some good lines in it. | 23:47 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | 1) It was excellent for its time, and 2) My son loves it. | 23:47 |
| arraybolt3[m] | I was really into it too, but then I took a break from movies, then watched again way later and realized, "Good grief, there wasn't any happy ending! You know what, *every single one of those movies had a sad ending!*" | 23:48 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (I'm assuming we are talking about the one where people resurrect dinosaurs from mosquito blood and then everything goes horribly wrong not once, not twice, but five times, right?) | 23:49 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | That's about right. | 23:49 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Anyway, sorry if I'm being silly here. | 23:50 |
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