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morgan-liveusbBashing-om (I was ok after the upgrade but then the zoom. Here is the results of the dpkg:   (dont know my pastebin pw) 6 lines. the last.   gdm3           42.0-1ubuntu6 amd64        GNOME Display Manager00:31
morgan-liveusbBashing-om ALSO  Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend    Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)00:34
Bashing-ommorgan-liveusb: the line starts with "ii" ? - is as what we want.00:34
morgan-liveusbno such line00:35
morgan-liveusboops will redo00:36
Bashing-ommorgan-liveusb: what desk top are you then on ?00:36
morgan-liveusbBashing-omre did  again the same. lines start with |  |/   ||/ and ii00:37
morgan-liveusbI am on the 22.04 live usb00:38
morgan-liveusbI gave you.  ii, |/ and ||/00:39
Bashing-ommorgan-liveusb: Running the command ^ in the live environment will tell us nothing about what the state is in the install :(00:39
morgan-liveusbwithout the headers because I thought they were filler.00:39
morgan-liveusbwell the install makes a black screen. I dont remember how to get grub. holding shift does not do it.00:40
Bashing-ommorgan-liveusb: The header(s) tell you how to interpret the flags in the output.00:40
morgan-liveusbnow I see that00:41
imifor some reasong geeqie instead of displaying the file names, it displays checkboxes00:41
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morgan-liveusbOK I am going to reboot holding shift down from the beginning. . see you soon00:42
Bashing-ommorgan-liveusb: shift is for the legacy - bios - systems - for efi systems it is the escape key that grub looks for.00:45
margan-laptopBashing-om OK turns out escape brings up grub. what should I do? I tried the earlier version, recovery but it brought up big type problems. I am ready to do it again.00:51
Bashing-ommargan-laptop: From grub one can activate a root console - advanced options >> latest kernel >> see what results with the option " dpkg   ->     repair broken packages" .00:55
margan-laptop  I have 4 advanced options and they all are ubuntu 5.25.0.46 generic (recovery mode) is the last one01:08
margan-laptopBashing-om nothing says root console in the choices before that. (I cant let up the escape key or it boots right into black ubuntu.) btw this is an ubuntu-only hard drive all one partition01:11
margan-laptopoh the latest kernel goes black. I will try lastest kernel (recovery mode.01:11
margan-laptopoh getting stuff01:12
margan-laptop Welsome to ubutu 20 bla bla then it moved on....01:12
Bashing-ommargan-laptop: Me waits to see -01:14
margan-laptopOK it got to recovery menu.. just for a second. then more stuff started happening and it is all broken up.  stuff like process error rep...omatic reporting is enabled...    next line Finished proces error ...is enabled  {FAILED] in red failed ot start prcess er..utomatic reporting is01:14
margan-laptopat end See01:15
Bashing-ommargan-laptop: Ouch ! then next is from the live USB to run a file system check/repair with ' fsck ' .01:16
margan-laptopSee 'systemctl status apport-autoreport.service' for details01:16
margan-laptopok what is the fsck command01:17
Bashing-ommargan-laptop: fsck == (F)ile (S)ystem (C)he(K) -- once booted into the live USB we wilk need to find the root partition to direct fsck where to operate.01:19
Bashing-omwill*01:19
margan-laptopterminaltermit says fsck from util-linux 2.37.201:21
irrgitIs there a way to start the network configuration wizard on 22.04 that initially shows up when installing ubuntu 22.04 server?01:21
margan-laptopBashing-om it says fsck from util-linux 2.37.201:22
Bashing-ommargan-laptop: NO - fsck *MUST* operate on UN-mounted partitions - thus the live USB.01:22
margan-laptopWhat I did is boot up into Try Ubuntu, get a terminal and type the command fsck01:23
margan-laptopNow I see you want me to do it on the hard drive. How do I indicate the hard drive?01:24
margan-laptopBashing-om that's so basic but I dont know how to do that.01:25
margan-laptopirrgit afaik only from the install medium. what is it that you want to do?  gparted is on the live-medium and not in the installed system. (since it must work on an unmounted volume.01:27
Bashing-ommargan-laptop: Good deal --- what we need now is to know where to point fsck - run terminal command ' sudo fdisk -lu | nc termbin.com 9999 ', The result is a URL back in terminal - pass that link back here so we can see what the partitions on the install are.01:27
margan-laptopok. give a minute for my touch-typing skills01:28
Bashing-ommargan-laptop: Take your time - insure there are no typos :P01:29
margan-laptopand it replies Partition 2 does not start on physical sector boundary.  https//termbin.com/28gc01:30
Bashing-ommargan-laptop: We have a target for fsck. Now run ' sudo fsck /dev/sda5 ' --- see what the check reveals. We may have to go deeper.01:36
bsmith0931margan-laptop this is an extremely common use case for a live Ubuntu usb01:38
morgan-tryubue2fsck 1.46.5 (30-Dec-2021)01:38
morgan-tryubu    /dev/sda5: clean, 689858/30498816 files, 40371629/121964800 blocks01:39
Bashing-ommorgan-tryubu: Let it run - should come vback telling you has errors and maybe can fix --- or all good abd all comes back "clean" .01:39
bsmith0931if it's clean then you're good.01:40
morgan-tryubu((meanwhile I have been looking up "What could this loop thing in fdisk be?"))01:40
morgan-tryubuwhat's that about partition 2 does not start of ... bla bla01:40
Bashing-ommorgan-tryubu: those be "snap" partuions for what snaps are installed.01:41
morgan-tryubuyes, indeed I found that out. It is a skill to distill something one can understand from a set of search esults.01:41
bsmith0931snap was an interesting idea I just wish it would clean up after itself more easily. a new version of a snap should automatically install over the old version.01:42
Bashing-ommorgan-tryubu: Non alighned is not the issue - in some use cases such will result in performance degradation.01:43
morgan-tryubuWell the new version should replace the old one. (cant write over because of ..factors like length or error)01:43
morgan-tryubuI have had chrome make the dock and stuff flutter while it loads and slow the computer down to a stop. As soon as I get around tuit I am going to rewrite the hard drive.01:44
Bashing-ommorgan-tryubu: In the live USB boot menu - is there the option " boot from first hard drive" ?01:44
morgan-tryubuOK I still have a system that is messed up. even if fsck os clean.01:44
bsmith0931when you're installing a new version of Ubuntu it's a very good idea to separate the home partition from the root partition01:45
bsmith0931 01:45
morgan-tryubuIt cant load the advanced options in recovery mode and the regular system is black.01:45
bsmith0931that way when you inevitably need to reinstall Ubuntu for some reason it keeps all your configurations and all you have to do is reinstall all your packages.01:45
bsmith0931synaptic read markings save full state.01:45
morgan-tryubuOK I have gone back and forth on that bsmith093101:46
morgan-tryubuOK I will save my entire /home and use it in the rewrite.01:47
morgan-tryubuI dont understand the sentence.   synaptic read markings save full state.01:47
morgan-tryubuwhich is the verb?01:47
Bashing-ommorgan-tryubu: On the positive side - we now know that it is not a kernel space issue - We just need to find out where the configuration is messed up :P01:48
morgan-tryubuBashing-om I am hanging on your every word.  (I dont now what a "kernel space issue" is tho.)01:48
morgan-tryubuLove that logic. (BTW I have done phone computer support in the past. So I can multiply appreciate the tag-team here.)01:49
morgan-tryububsmith0931 I decided that save was the verb.01:50
Bashing-ommorgan-tryubu: Linux set up --- kernel space/user space/snap(whatever) sandbox space :D01:51
bsmith0931df -h /dev/sd*01:51
morgan-tryubuBashing-om I will stay focused and learn that later.01:51
morgan-tryububsmith0931 results of df command  https://pastebin.com/iNqyq2Dj01:53
Bashing-ommorgan-tryubu: I have not booted a live USB in some time - I do not know if the "boot from first hard drive " option still exist. If so will make accessing the install so much easier.01:53
bsmith0931it absolutely does still exist morgan-tryubu01:54
bsmith0931boot it up and press escape01:54
morgan-tryububsmith0931 first looks like the df looked at the flash drive ?? true?  --- and if I boot from first hard drive it comes out black.01:55
bsmith0931do you need to pull data off of this drive, or is it a fresh install that you can just wipe entirely and start over?01:55
morgan-tryubuEscape gives me grub and choices. I have already reported on what 3 of the 4 options of ubuntu do.01:56
bsmith0931try using the recovery option in grub01:56
bsmith0931I had to do that recently it's much less intimidating than it looks01:56
morgan-tryububsmith0931 this is the computer I have been using for 2..3 years and I upgraded the 20 to 22.04 and I already did the recovery option and reported on what it does... It shows the recovery shoiced and then flailed with a lot of text that says things did not work and the reporting of those things failed too.01:57
Bashing-ommorgan-tryubu: Here we are talking about booting to the live USB's boot menu. Hey - do not let your frustration get the better of us :P01:58
bsmith0931do you have another computer you could attach the drive to? to back it up?01:58
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morgan-tryubuI did not understnd that bashing om.  and yes I could take the hard frive out and put it ina usb enclosure and hook it up to my laptop but that path is fraught with problems since I dont do that much and my usb thing has no housing and is flakey so effectively nope.02:00
morgan-tryubuit seems to me that booting off a usb and having the drive in the same system is close enough.02:00
morgan-tryubuthat was to bsmith093102:01
morgan-tryubuso Bashing-omYou want me to boot to the live usb and hold escape.02:01
morgan-tryubuand then choose what? (since I am not going to be able to type with my finger on the escape trigger.)   ((and  am more amused than frustrated. It takes so many words to be clear.)02:02
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Bashing-ommorgan-tryubu: Yeah -- sgould then get the liveUSB's boot menu - we use that environment to see if we can boot into the install on the hard drive.02:02
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margan-laptopOK back to lappy, going to boot from usb again02:03
margan-laptopi have 4 options none of which mention first hard drive: try or install ubuntu../ ubuntu safe graphics ../ OEM install /  test memory.02:07
margan-laptopBashing-om oem install (for manufacturers) ... just boots into the Ubuntu ... try or install02:08
margan-laptopnope straight into install02:09
margan-laptopquit takes me to trial ubu02:09
Bashing-ommargan-laptop: Thought that I remembered such --- ok we can do this another way. But is rather convoluted --- we can set up a full change root  to access the install. Can be mind bending for a 1st timer - are you up for it? as it may take a bit of time and lots of typing if copy/paste is not available.02:12
margan-laptopok I am game Bashing-om so first give me a road map, then the detail02:12
margan-laptopI used to be able to go to root to change the password when I forgot it I hav to look at the psychocats site every time to remember.02:13
Bashing-ommargan-laptop: From the live USB we are going to change from that environment to that of the install. If we are successfull to access the install we next make sure the package manager is in a consistent state.02:15
margan-laptopOK I will follow the recipe.  Go please.02:24
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Bashing-ommorgan-laptop: (morgan!) Not sure how this will play what with an esp partition, but let's try as follows. In the live USB run - one command at a time: ' sudo mount /dev/sdxY /mnt/ ; for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done ; sudo chroot /mnt ' . Are you now at a '#" prompt ? and we continue - else we back out and do a re-do.02:34
morgan-laptopWhat is an esp partition?02:34
Bashing-ommorgan-laptop: this is one command " for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done "02:35
Bashing-ommorgan-laptop: that is your sda1 boot partition.02:35
morgan-laptopOK let me get on the computer02:35
morgan-laptop for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done02:37
morgan-flashmount point does not exist -- 5 lines of that02:38
morgan-laptopshould we have a cd to the hard drive first?02:41
morgan-flashlike cd /dev/sdq502:44
Bashing-ommorgan-laptop: Yukkie on me ! --- the mount point is " sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/ " !!02:44
morgan-flashlike cd /dev/sda502:45
morgan-flashok did the mount then the for i ----- it returned a prompt02:46
morgan-flashmeanwhile... I got a cookie.02:49
Bashing-ommorgan-laptop: Wait a bit I must be away - the prompt is now "#" ?02:52
morgan-flashno, still $02:55
Bashing-ommorgan-laptop: Hummm -- and you did do the command ' sudo chroot /mnt ' after the for loop command ?03:03
HP-UXHelo03:12
HP-UXOn Ubuntu 22.04.1 I am on firefox and a website informs me that I must upgrade firefox to a latest version in order to use the website app. How may I do this please?03:12
HP-UXsystem is already fully upated with apt03:13
HP-UXhttps://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04 hmm is this okay to do?03:14
toddcHP-UX: firefox is a snap in 22.04 it will auto update after 13 days or you can force it to update now if you like03:15
HP-UXBasically replace the snap with mozillateam ppa?03:15
HP-UXtoddc: oh03:15
HP-UXtoddc: how?03:15
toddcHP sudo snap refresh       for firefox03:16
toddcHP-UX: sudo snap refresh03:16
toddcassuming firefox is closed03:17
HP-UXSaid all snaps are up to date03:17
HP-UX105.x something03:19
HP-UXthat's the latest version hmm03:19
toddcHP-UX: done  open snap store to updates and refresh using the circle in the upper left corner03:20
HP-UXI think I have diff firefoxes installed maybe?03:20
HP-UXI don't know03:20
HP-UXI jsut launched fierfox and I didn't see my apps/extentins/history etc.03:20
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toddcHP-UX: 105.0.1 is current for 22.04.103:21
toddcHP-UX: did you do a upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04 it is possible03:22
n-iCehow can I know with terminal if my laptop uses ddr3 ram or ddr403:23
HP-UXI got it back with firfox -P03:23
HP-UXn-iCe: you can use dmi-decode03:23
HP-UXthen look through the output03:24
toddcn-iCe: sudo dmidecode --type memory | less03:24
HP-UXsudo dmidecode|grep DDR03:24
HP-UXJust grep for capital DDR (to avoid 'address'03:25
n-iCethanks03:25
n-iCeddr303:25
morgan-flashBashing-om I am going to give it up for tonight.03:32
morgan-flashThanks for your guidance.03:32
Bashing-ommorgan-flash: ack -- if you are at a "#" prompt then we must back out.03:33
morgan-flashI am not. I am at a normal $ prompt03:34
morgan-flashdollar dollar03:34
Bashing-ommorgan-flash: for i in /sys /proc /dev/pts /dev /run; do sudo umount /mnt$i; done - sudo umount /mnt03:34
morgan-flashok I'll do that03:35
morgan-flashOh the dash was for a new line. oops03:36
morgan-flashok both lines donw03:36
morgan-flashDONE03:37
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morgan-flashnow what Bashing-om03:37
Bashing-ommorgan-flash: Good deal = should be safe now to shut down --- and we try more later.03:37
morgan-flashok what is your time zone. I am pacific03:38
Bashing-ommorgan-flash: cst.03:39
dabblerAnyone know of a good PPA for crossover wine?03:47
arraybolt3[m]dabbler: You can install Wine from the official WineHQ repositories if the version in Ubuntu isn't enough.03:47
arraybolt3[m]dabbler: https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu03:48
arraybolt3[m]dabbler: Note that, if you're on Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy), you'll want to install either Development or Staging, not Stable, as Stable isn't available for Jammy.03:48
dabblerarraybolt3[m]: I'm hoping to find the crossover version04:08
dabblerThat's the version that incorporates all of codeweavers's tweaks, which they make available for free only in source form04:10
ice9how to reset non english fonts?05:54
alkisgice9: upload a screenshot; also, test if the problem happens with just your user account, or if it happens with new (or guest) accounts as well, so that you know where to look for the fix, in /home or in /usr06:05
ice9this file /etc/pam.d/system-auth is lost on my system, how can I restore it?06:10
alkisgRun this: dpkg -S /etc/pam.d/system-auth06:11
alkisgIt will probably say "no path found", which means that it never existed at all :)06:11
ice9alkisg, ah ok, the problem actually when I try to passwd for a user I get: passwd: Module is unknown06:12
alkisgAren't we going to solve the fonts problem before hopping to another one? :)06:12
ice9alkisg, I just created a fresh user to test the fonts :)06:13
alkisgAnd the error message means that you cannot login, or is it just a warning?06:13
ice9alkisg, I'm unable to set a password for that user, so I will not be able to login with it06:14
alkisgice9: you ran adduser x, and it failed?06:14
ice9alkisg, useradd works fine but then passwd fails06:15
alkisguseradd is the wrong tool for ubuntu06:15
alkisgUse adduser, which is the debian-customized one06:15
alkisgIn any case, if a simple `sudo passwd username` fails, you have bigger problems than just the fonts :)06:16
alkisgPut the command, its WHOLE output, and the output of journalctl -b -n100, to a pastebin, so that we can see what went wrong.06:17
ice9alkisg, even this is happening:06:22
ice9dpkg -S /etc/pam.d/common-password06:22
ice9dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /etc/pam.d/common-password06:22
ice9I issue is that I installed deepin DE then removed it, now there are little things broken06:22
p3limcan Signed-By in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ files contain multiple paths?06:22
alkisgice9: that one is generated by sudo pam-auth-update06:22
p3limI tried following the manual and paste the gpg keys directly into the sources file(s) but that doesn't work06:22
alkisgice9: but if you have missing packages, you should re-add them. What's the output of: ls /usr/share/xsessions06:23
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ice9alkisg, there was pam config still exists and after removing that line passwd works fine:06:29
ice9PAM unable to dlopen(pam_deepin_pw_check.so): /lib/security/pam_deepin_pw_check.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory06:29
ice9so how to completely purge deepin and restore Ubuntu to it's default? that's why my fonts are corrupted06:30
ice9I removed all packages listed by: dpkg --list| grep deepin06:30
alkisgIf they don't have proper uninstallers, you cannot implement them for them. You'd need to reinstall from scratch06:30
alkisgThat's why VMs are the best way to test, not our own PCs :)06:30
ice9alkisg, fonts in the fresh user looks correct06:36
alkisgice9: I wouldn't risk my data in a corrupted system,I'd reinstall anyway06:36
alkisgYou may keep your /home while reinstalling06:37
Guest26Hi guys. I was here already yesterday. I use VMWare virtualization, and I installed a patch for **vmmon** and **vmnet** modules.06:41
Guest26Because of that, my internet connection stopped working.06:41
Guest26If I uninstall VMWare the internet connection works again.06:41
Guest26I need to use VMWare but after installing the internet connection immediately stops working.06:41
Guest26What to do? I guess I need to revert **vmnet** (and possibly **vmmon**) to the original state, or?06:41
alkisgSince vmware isn't part of the ubuntu archives, I'm not sure you can get support here. Have you thought about using some open source tool like virtualbox or virt-manager?06:43
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blubhello06:52
blubi have 3 pcs connected over a switch. One has xubuntu 22.04 and the other ones are ubuntu servers 22.0406:52
blubthe xubuntu box has wifi06:53
bluband the option of shared to other computers is set on the ethernet cable06:53
blubbut sometimes the other machines cant connect to the router or ping the internet ips06:54
blubwhy is this06:54
alkisgYour xubuntu has 2 NICs, one facing the internet that has connection sharing enabled, and a LAN one without connection sharing enabled?06:54
blubyes it has two nics06:55
blubone normal wifi06:55
bluband the ethernet cable connected to a switch06:55
blubwith the "shared to other computers" selected06:55
bluband yesterday it worked06:56
blubi can always ssh in from the lan no problem06:56
Guest26sorry, did someone reply to me (about VMWare issue)? (I restarted)06:56
alkisgblub: you said that "the option of shared to other computers is set on the ethernet cable". It needs to be set on the wifi, not on the ethernet connection06:56
alkisgGuest26: noone replied, except me, and I only said this:06:57
alkisgSince vmware isn't part of the ubuntu archives, I'm not sure you can get support here. Have you thought about using some open source tool like virtualbox or virt-manager?06:57
blub?06:57
Guest26Vitualbox does not suite my needs :(06:57
Guest26But this vmnet is a "kernel module"? Is this the propert terminology?06:58
Guest26(thanks alkisg)06:58
blubi never did it like that06:58
blubthe xubuntu box is sometimes not masquerading the packets to the router i suppose06:59
blubbut wich is strange because i can ssh in from another box in the lan over wifi06:59
alkisgThe xubuntu box will assign IPs in your LAN. If you have another DHCP server there, things won't work properly.07:01
blubthis is not hard to get07:04
blubthe xubuntu has a desktop environment only because of that "shared to other computers" option07:04
blubthe other two pc's are connected to a switch to that xubuntu box07:04
alkisgEh, you can implement connection sharing with a couple of shell commands, there's no need to install a whole desktop environment for this :D07:05
blubthey all have the 10.42.0.0/24 network given on the ethernet cable/switch07:05
blubthe xubuntu has a wifi07:05
blubthat is not shared to other computers07:05
alkisgWhen the problem happens, paste the output of `ip r get 8.8.8.8` from one of the servers07:05
ice9is it safe to install use pipewire on 22.04? or better wait for 22.10?07:06
blubnow im connecting to the xubuntu box over wifi07:06
bluball ssh work07:06
alkisgblub: there's also nmtui (terminal interface for network-manager) that allows you to set up connection sharing without a desktop environment07:06
blubi first go and ssh into the 192.168.x.y (xubuntu box)07:06
bluband later to the 10.42.0.z07:06
blubsometimes it fails that the other two pc's connect to the internet07:07
blubwhy is this07:07
alkisg> When the problem happens, paste the output of ip r get 8.8.8.8 from one of the servers07:07
blubok07:08
blub8.8.8.8 via 10.42.0.1 dev eno2 src 10.42.0.67 uid 100007:09
blub    cache07:09
alkisgAnd `ping 8.8.8.8`?07:10
blubING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.07:10
blub^C07:10
blub--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---07:10
blub2 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 1011ms07:10
alkisgNow on xubuntu, what's the  output of: sudo iptables -L -t nat07:11
blubChain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT)07:12
blubtarget     prot opt source               destination07:12
blubChain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)07:12
blubtarget     prot opt source               destination07:12
blubChain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)07:12
blubtarget     prot opt source               destination07:12
alkisgUse a pastebin service when the output is more than 3 lines, for example: sudo iptables -L -t nat | nc termbin.com 999907:13
alkisgIf that was all the output, then there's no NATting done. Try to re-activate the connection and check again, you want to see a MASQUERADE rule07:13
alkisg> If that was all the output, then there's no NATting done. Try to re-activate the connection and check again, you want to see a MASQUERADE rule07:14
blub...07:18
blubit must be masquarading07:18
blubbecause i can ssh from 192.168 to the 10.42's07:19
alkisgThat's the opposite direction. It should NAT 10.42 to 192.168, not the opposite07:19
alkisgIf you're talking about "sshing from xubuntu to the servers", they you're using the 10.42 subnet in both ends07:20
bluboh07:20
blubyes you are right07:20
blubhow to do it over the cli07:20
alkisgYou run nmtui, it shows dialogs similar to the GUI07:21
blubsystem service network manager restart ?07:21
alkisgAh, to  reactivate the connection? nmcli con up con-name07:21
alkisgA plain `nmcli` shows the connections07:21
blubhum07:21
blubnice07:22
blubthanks07:22
alkisg👍️07:22
alkisgHere's the correct output for iptables -L -t NAT: MASQUERADE all -- 10.42.0.0/24 !10.42.0.0/2407:24
blubyes07:24
alkisg*-t nat, lowercase07:24
alkisgBtw you were right about setting [x] connection sharing in the LAN connection, sorry I got confused07:25
blubits working after reactivation of the connection07:25
blubthe two other servers must be screwing something up with dhcp or something07:26
bluband on the xubuntu box07:26
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blubsudo iptables -L -t nat07:27
blubhttps://pastebin.com/7fy2K2fL07:28
oskieanyone know how to get rid of the "Try Ubuntu Pro beta" message during 'apt dist-upgrade'?07:28
alkisgblub, you reactivated the connection on the xubuntu box, you ran `sudo iptables -L -t nat` on the xubuntu box, and you got that ^ paste, and connection sharing is working?! That's very strange07:29
blubyes07:30
blubyou are incorrect on that one i guess07:30
blubi dont get that either07:30
blubi guess if its setup per hand it says there07:30
blubotherwise it just sits on conntrac or the kernel or something07:31
alkisgYou reactivated the LAN connection, not the Wi-Fi conneciton, and the LAN connection has connection sharing enabled?07:34
blubyes07:34
alkisgSomething is wrong then, it's not what I'm seeing here when testing connection sharing... :)07:35
blubi gues the othe way around is for the hotspot thingy07:35
blubi never used that07:35
alkisgAnyway if it works now, problem solved07:35
blubno its not solved because this has to be automated07:36
blubits unnacceptable to stay like that07:36
blubwhat is the command to reactivate the eth0 dev?07:36
blubnmtui...07:37
blub?07:37
alkisgnmcli con up con-name07:39
bluband con-name is the name of the dev from ip a?07:39
alkisgNo, the name of the connection from `nmcli`07:42
ice9I only have these "ubuntu.desktop  ubuntu-xorg.desktop" but gnome classic is showing up when trying to login07:47
blubgreat thanks07:48
blubi hope a bash script will do it07:49
hermanoHave a weird problem. Cannot open a terminal anymore in ubuntu 22.04.08:23
skraitoalt + f3 work ?08:24
murmelhermano: what did you do to get to this point?08:25
hermanoskraito, nope. nor ctrl+alt+t, nor pressing icon 'terminal' on desktop.08:25
skraitoi forgot what the command for tty308:26
hermanomurmel, I was attempting to reinstall docker engine and needed to change permission on some folders/files.08:26
skraitoyour using gnome ?08:26
skraitomay be try from there08:26
skraitoand check the program still exist ?08:26
hermanoskraito, havent change anything so I guess I am using gnome.08:26
skraitomay be they rename ?08:26
skraitodid you update recently ?08:27
hermanoyes.08:27
skraitowait let me google it08:27
murmelhermano: are we talking about system files or data from container images?08:27
skraitowhat's the command08:27
murmeland btw, it's ctrl+alt+FX not alt+FX08:27
hermanoskraito, I think i did: sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/docker-compose08:28
skraitoyeah is ctrl + alt08:28
skraitof308:28
skraitomay be some gnome update08:28
alkisgAlt+F2 opens the run box though08:28
murmelalkisg: yes? but the text said alt + f308:29
skraitois it working at ctrl + alt + f308:29
skraitomay be you can troubleshoot from there08:29
skraitoif not i am not sure why you don't get shell may be some kernel or whatever it is08:30
alkisghermano: try Alt+F2 (without control), if it pops up the run dialog, type: /usr/bin/gnome-terminal08:31
hermano_alkisg, I was able to jump out of graphic and reach a terminal. The error when trying to install gnome-terminal: Malformed entry 1 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/docker.list (Component). The list of source could not be read.08:35
skraitodocker ?08:36
hermano_alkisg, or actually error in terminal is connected me trying to do a: sudp aptg-et update.08:36
alkisghermano_: why do you need to install gnome-terminal, did you remove it? Are you using Ubuntu GNOME or some other flavour?08:36
hermano_skraito, Well, yes I was trying to fix and secure docker would work. Probably messed up something that obviously affects terminal.08:36
skraitoi am not sure why gnome terminal got to do with docker08:37
hermano_alkisg, standard installation of ubuntu 22.04 so I guess that would be gnome. I tried to install gnome-terminal, assuming that the terminal is broken.08:37
skraitois it dependancy now when you install docker ?08:37
skraitothe first time i mean08:37
hermano_skraito, agree seems and should not be connected (docker vs terminal).08:38
skraitotry to remove it08:38
alkisghermano_: go back to your graphics environment, press Alt+F2, and type xterm there in the run dialog. Does it show a terminal?08:38
hermano_skraito, remove docker?08:38
skraitono gnome-terminal08:38
skraitowhat's wrong with docket.list in apt08:38
skraitodid you install or enable the repo ?08:39
skraitoor is it come by default08:39
skraitotry apt remove gnome-terminal08:39
skraitobut check first i am not sure  is only gnome-terminal that going to be removed08:39
hermano_skraito, honestly I think I messed up by doing some "chown" in the docker structure. Why terminal is affected is a mystery to me.08:39
skraitoor the whole dependancy08:39
alkisghermano_: with the way I wrote above ^ you'll be able to see the error message08:40
skraitoapt update run ?08:40
skraitoin bash08:41
skraitotype history08:41
skraitocheck what command is there last time that you type08:41
skraitoi forgot what . file is for history in bash08:41
skraitojust vi it08:41
skraitols -alh08:42
skraitovi .filename_history08:42
skraitoi forgot08:42
skraitolet me google it what is that file name08:42
skraitoyeah .bash_history08:43
skraitoah nvm you ping time out08:43
skraitohermano check history08:43
skraitotype history or vi .bash_history08:44
skraitomay be you can figure it out what you type before08:44
hermanoAccording to the error i get seems connected to this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/78951/how-do-i-remove-a-malformed-line-from-my-sources-list08:45
skraitoapt update not working too ?08:45
skraitomay be just remove docker.list08:45
skraitoor check or edit it08:45
hermanoYes, will rename it.08:45
skraitohope it works08:46
skraitoif not what to do08:46
skraitoyou need to install those apt deb packages again08:47
skraitoand just try since is working normal for your kernel and can boot08:47
skraitoor may be just trust some binary of gnome-terminal08:48
skraitoif apt install don't work i am not sure how you fix those apt or deb packages if all broken08:49
hermanoI can now perform apt upgrade and apt update.08:50
skraitothat's nice08:51
hermanoBut terminal still does not answer, I see the processing icon but it does not start the terminal.08:51
skraitotry gnome-terminal again08:51
skraitops work ?08:51
skraitotry install other console08:51
skraitoxterm may be08:51
skraitoand try xterm from gnome shortcut08:51
skraitoor try apt reinstall gnome-terminal08:52
skraitoor did you make it08:52
skraitounexcuteable08:52
skraitocheck ls -alh gnome-terminal08:53
skraitomay be that can fix too08:53
skraito+x it08:53
hermanoMade: apt install gnome-terminal08:53
hermanoTerminal still not starting from desktop.08:53
skraitoxterm08:54
skraitotry it08:54
skraitohope it run and show the reason why gnome-terminal not working08:54
skraitowhy gnome-terminal tied to apt sources.list08:54
skraitoi mean08:55
skraitosomething wrong08:55
hermanoxterm works.08:55
skraitowhy it check package manager08:55
skraitoyeah08:55
skraitotry gnome-terminal now from xterm08:55
skraitolooks like your whatever windows manager still working displaying08:56
skraitowhat error you get ?08:56
hermanoModuleNotFoundError: No moude named 'gi'.08:56
skraitoahh08:57
skraitono modulename ?08:57
skraitono wonder08:57
skraitomay be some dependancy error08:57
skraitoi am not sure how to fix it08:57
skraitodid you do apt update perviously ?08:58
skraitomay be new bug since you didn't do anything08:58
hermanoyes08:58
skraitocheck what is gi08:58
skraitoif you didn't do it is strange08:59
skraitowhen you did it apt update ?08:59
ravagesudo apt install --reinstall python3-gi08:59
alkisghermano: what's the output of: du -sh /usr/local/lib/*08:59
ravageBut that may only be a symptom08:59
hermanoalkisg, 15M /usr/local/lib/python3.1009:00
alkisghermano: it's possible that you installed python modules that conflict with the system python modules, and make programs not run09:00
alkisgOne quick way to find out is: sudo chmod 000 /usr/local09:00
alkisgThen try to run gnome-terminal again, now it won't be able to find any local modules09:01
skraitowait check the permission first09:01
skraitoit's going to crash09:01
hermanoChange permission, no crash.09:01
skraitols -alh /usr/local i mean09:01
alkisghermano: ok, now whatever you did in /usr/local, it was the wrong way to do it. Use python venvs to manage your local modules, do not install them system-wide09:02
ice9I only have these "ubuntu.desktop  ubuntu-xorg.desktop" but gnome classic is showing up when trying to login09:02
alkisghermano: for example, some `sudo pip install` command might have caused this09:02
hermanoxterm and vs code terminal works fine. So maybe I should leave the problem with terminal. Seems rest of OS is intact. Cumbersome to perform a total reinstallation of OS to solve the issue.09:05
skraitomay be just some new bug after you apt update before you run it09:06
skraitoheard ubuntu cause alot of that problem when apt update09:06
skraitonot sure now09:06
skraitoit doesn't make sense though why it check apt when you start gnome-terminal09:10
skraitomay be your system have been compromise09:10
hermanoI tested to install: sudo apt install gnome-console gnome-text-editor09:12
skraitotry to change package manager09:12
skraitoto main09:12
hermanoMaybe not the same, but it works, only you get an icon called "console".09:12
skraitothe source list i mean09:13
skraitomay be something wrong with those mirror repo09:13
skraitofrom your country09:13
skraitobut it's strange why the checksum match09:13
skraitoif you just did it recently09:13
skraitobut is too late09:13
skraitonot sure what you update recently09:13
cole_.09:22
cole_.utorrent09:22
hermanoSomething is defintively spooky. If i make a typo in console I get:09:22
hermanoModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'CommandNotFound'09:22
cole_qn eres09:23
hermano..anyhow, I guess it's 'good enough' that console is working.09:23
ice9I added https://bpa.st/5WKA to /etc/sysctl.conf and rebooted but ipv6 still active; how come?09:24
skraitohermano09:42
skraitolsmod may be ice909:43
skraitocheck the kernel module for ipv609:43
skraitois it still loading ?09:44
Dr-007i updated to the newest ubuntu 22.04 LTS but it gave on error about something failing and now certain icons are showing a missing/default icon. for example the ubuntu launcher/start icon. or when i use Remmina then all icons in that app are the default icon09:58
OmarHanyKasbanhi everyone09:59
Dr-007when i google people say `sudo apt install gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng` will fix it but the error was about some lib which i dont exactly remember the name of..10:00
murmelskraito: apt update really doesn't make problems on ubuntu. (it even can't as it only updates the sources)10:08
skraitoyeah10:08
skraitoi mean apt upgrade10:09
skraitoi am training my brain now10:09
murmelstill shouldn't happen, except the user adds random repos10:09
skraito:( can't think why i can't said what i should said and mean10:09
skraitothough i said apt upgrade10:09
skraitothat's why i am here just to chat10:09
murmelthen you are in the wrong channel ;). #ubuntu-offtopic :P10:10
skraitoyeah10:10
skraito:)10:10
murmelhermano: did you make sure your gnome-terminal config is sound?10:10
murmelit can definitely happen when you have a bad custom comman10:11
murmel+d10:11
skraitoit call apt murmel10:12
murmelwhat do you mean?10:12
skraitoand check apt sources list10:12
skraitonot sure if i remembered correctly when he launch gnome-terminal10:12
skraitoit check apt sources.list or whatever file it is somewhere there10:13
skraitois so strange10:13
skraitoit check docker.list i remembered now10:13
skraitoGod hope i don't get dementia10:13
murmelsure, but that shouldn't mess up gnome-terminal10:13
skraitonot sure about the source code of gnome-terminal10:14
skraitobut in my opinion why that's even check the list of docker.list10:14
skraitoi don't trust ubuntu alot of mirror10:14
skraitomay be his system is compromised10:14
murmelDr-007: how did you update?10:15
murmelskraito: oO just because of the docker.list? definitely not, very likely he added the upstream repo10:15
Dr-007murmel, it prompted me in the GUI. i just ran `sudo apt install gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng` and it prompted that i should run dpkg --configure -a10:16
Dr-007so it's doing that as we speak10:16
skraitonot sure10:16
skraitothat's why i am suspicious why that gnome-terminal check apt list10:17
murmelDr-007: if you still have issues, please paste the output of dpkg --configure -a to a paste site10:17
murmel!paste10:17
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:17
murmelskraito: i think that something is in the custom command setting, which errors out, so terminal automatically closes10:18
skraitomay be not sure and he mention he just did apt upgrade may be10:18
skraitoso i was thinking if he did recently may be just some bug10:18
skraitoafter he done that10:19
murmeladditionally I wonder why you want to add docker repo, when docker is in the repos :/10:19
skraitois too late10:19
skraitosince he already done it10:19
OmarHanyKasbanis ubuntu 22.10 bad?10:19
skraitobetter reinstall the whole system if i were him10:20
murmelskraito: you can always revert it10:20
OmarHanyKasbanwhat happend to him10:20
murmelthere is no need to reinstall10:20
OmarHanyKasbanjust run10:20
OmarHanyKasbansudo dpkg --configure -a10:20
murmelOmarHanyKasban: why should it be bad10:20
skraitodon't know what is there after he execute it10:20
OmarHanyKasbansudo apt install -f10:20
skraitowho knows10:20
OmarHanyKasbanthat will repair any ubuntu distro10:20
murmelOmarHanyKasban: definitely not, it can fix stuff but not all10:20
OmarHanyKasbanlike ubuntu 22.10 dont come with linux kernal 6.0 i tried to install 6.0 but it had no nvida drivers so  i revered back to 5.1910:21
murmelOmarHanyKasban: nvidia drivers don't support 6.0, so complain to nvidia10:21
OmarHanyKasbani use ubuntu 22.10 as main i use kvm windows 11 vm for windows only games and apps10:22
OmarHanyKasbanmy laptop came with ubuntu 20.04 but i wiped to windows and later changed my mind to get ubuntu so i got lastest10:22
murmelOmarHanyKasban: latest would be 22.04, not 22.10 as 22.10 is still beta10:22
OmarHanyKasbani know but gnome 43 is cool10:23
OmarHanyKasbanso i got ubuntu from dialy builds10:24
OmarHanyKasbani even installed on my old pc xubuntu 22.1010:24
murmelsure, but don't complain if the beta acts up ;)10:24
Dr-007murmel, i will. but it looks like it is stuck in a loop. os-prober is now running for the third time :s10:24
OmarHanyKasbandell repos just dont work10:24
OmarHanyKasbanits for 20.04 only i think10:24
murmelDr-007: give us link ;)10:24
murmelOmarHanyKasban: sure, because canonical pushes things upstream, wich means by the time the next LTS rolls around, it should work ootb10:25
OmarHanyKasbanno10:25
OmarHanyKasbanthe repos for 20.0410:25
OmarHanyKasbandont work on 22.0410:25
Dr-007hehe, it's still running so i cant ctrl+c it. i'll let it go on for a little while because maybe i'm mistaken10:25
murmelOmarHanyKasban: why would they work?10:26
OmarHanyKasbanit came with my laptop10:26
OmarHanyKasbanmy laptop came with ubuntu 20.0410:26
OmarHanyKasbanhttps://ubuntu.com/certified/202012-2855410:26
murmelOmarHanyKasban: that's not the point, why would software which is specific for 20.04 run on 22.04?10:26
OmarHanyKasbanits drivers10:26
OmarHanyKasbanfor my laptop10:27
murmeland as I pointed out, you shouldn't need that repo10:27
OmarHanyKasbanok10:27
OmarHanyKasbaneverything works so i dont need to install it?10:27
murmelyes10:27
OmarHanyKasbanok10:27
murmeli mean the only "special" thing that could act up is ethernet10:28
murmelbecause realtek has bad drivers on linux, but it should def. work out of the box10:28
OmarHanyKasbanrealtek drivers on linux is bad yeah but it works better then on windows10:30
OmarHanyKasbanon windows i cloudnt get the headphone jack working at all on linux it works right after the ox10:31
OmarHanyKasbanbox10:31
Dr-007murmel, it finished so it wasn't stuck in a loop. it ran the os-prober a buncha times though that's why i figured it'd might be in a loop. here is the paste: https://dpaste.com/4CEA4JAD9 i'm going to reboot now to see if the icons are fixed10:36
Dr-007murmel, it's fixed now. thanks anyways10:40
murmelDr-007: yeah, seems like your upgrade was terminated midway10:40
murmelor something interfered10:41
Dr-007nah it ran all the way in GUI but 1 thing failed10:41
murmelk10:42
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pickanickmorrow11:34
Guest70"client is not authorized to connect to server" when attempting to open Firefox on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS on a TightVNC client on a Multipass VM. Why?11:50
Payamhi12:19
Payamis it possible to package a package to ubuntu-core in form of a .deb file?12:19
Payamis it possible to run apt on ubuntu-core?12:22
murmelPayam: apt is not available on core12:25
Payamcan you provide me with a link stating that? I need to show it to my managers12:25
ferzHi, I've set a password for a user (postgres) and I would like to make it again password less, or better have not password for this user. Only root can substitute user (su) to postgres.12:26
ferzHow can I achieve this?12:27
murmelPayam: ugh, looking right now, but everything avoids saying that apt is not available, just that every application is sandboxed and there are specific iot app stores12:33
Payamyes :(12:33
murmelPayam: maybe the first block? https://ubuntu.com/core/docs it says snaps are used exclusively12:34
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ferzpasswd -d postgres12:39
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mhrezoohi12:40
mhrezoownere am i12:41
rob0(not here!)12:44
bancroftif I wanted to make a script executable by all users, but only readable and writable by root what are the perms for that? 711?12:44
lotuspsychje!chmod | bancroft start here12:45
ubottubancroft start here: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions12:45
bancroftlotuspsychje: thank you12:45
rob0I don't think a script could run without read privs.12:45
bancroftrob0: on the folder sure but I think you can on a script12:47
bancroftstill reading, not sure yet12:48
rob0should be simple to test12:52
rob0but how would the system know what to do, if the instructions it's supposed to follow are inside an unreadable file?12:52
bancrofthmm you're right13:00
BluesKajHi all13:24
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bancroftBluesKaj: hello13:46
BluesKajhi bancroft13:46
adacGuys how do I install terrafrom version 1.2.9 with snap. I tried "sudo snap refresh terraform --channel=1.2.9/stable" but i get this error: https://pastebin.com/RHJmj63913:59
murmeladac: because there is no channel 1.2.914:01
murmelsee snap info terraform14:01
adacmurmel, when I do "snap revert terraform" then it rolls me back to 1.2.914:02
murmeladac: if you have the snap on your pc yes14:02
adacmurmel, but how can I make this happen directly like please terrafrrom install me this 1.2.9 version?14:03
murmeladac: not through snap, you would probably need to install the deb version (hashicorp repo) and lock it in14:03
adacmurmel, I see. Yes then I will probably use the hashicorp repo14:04
adacthanks man14:04
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mncheckI made an apt_preferences .pref file setting Package foo to Pin 123 based on origin. and now apt-cache policy foo shows the version priority to be 123 but the package file priorities listed under the version are default 500 and 100 for dpkg/status. I don't understand what's the difference between version priorities and packagefile priority. can you give directions?15:20
user9dHow do make a 400x300 png file with a X axis Y axis in black with  y=sin(x) in blue to be put at ~/sin_of_x.png with Ubuntu 22.04?15:53
user9d*** How do I make a 400px by 300px png file at ~/sin_of_x.png with a X axis + Y axis both in black color with  y=sin(x) in blue with Ubuntu 22.04?15:54
oerhekslibre office draw?15:54
oerheksor inkscape maybe15:55
user9dthrough the terminal interactive shell15:55
oerhekslolz15:55
oerhekswhen you find an answer, let us know!15:55
user9dit is -300% possible within 5 hours for me alone15:56
oerheks" i don't know how to do this'  but it must be from terminal..15:56
user9dI 300% want terminal15:57
oerheksmaybe post your unrealistic question on askubuntu?15:58
leftyfbuser9d: maybe look at imagemagick, mainly "convert"15:58
user9dgimp will do because I can do the PNG 400x300 pixel picture drawn with <91% accurate sin(x) wave pixels within 2 minutes while learning 0.0% of anything, and therefore I am 38% surprised with myself about how quickly I can do this right now, and therefore original [with 0 extensions] Ubuntu 22.04 issue resolved.16:00
user9dis this channel about one to all to original one or one to all for all?16:03
lotuspsychjeuser9d: this channel focuses on the support of problems around Ubuntu16:05
user9dare the solutions provided on a ticket personal level?16:10
lotuspsychjenot in this channel user9d we do have bugs on launchpad16:11
oerhekssure, real problems16:12
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pickuser9d : gnuplot.16:57
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yuesbeezIs there a way to keep my ethernet port powered during suspend so I can wake on lan? It seems to only work shortly after I suspend but overnight WOL does not work18:36
morgan-laptopcheese on HP laptop sees black, (and yes, I pulled the physical shutter-block open)  22.o4 upgraded.18:38
morgan-laptopdell 9020 laptop 22.04 upgraded to, boots to black since zoom update and reinstall. I have it booted up to a live-usb right now (If I go to recovery from the hard drive it messes up but is not black. Messes up means it reports a [FAILED] )18:41
tomtomgpsHi my pc with ubuntu 22.04 only boots to black screen18:41
tomtomgpseven with install disk18:41
tomtomgpsi have a RX 570018:41
tomtomgpsxt18:42
tomtomgpsonly install disk in graphical safe mode  works18:42
tomtomgpseven after reintalling it doesnt work18:42
morgan-laptoptomtomgps we related.18:42
morgan-laptopcan you boot 22.o4 off your install media (called "TRY UBUNTU" ?18:43
tomtomgpshmmm do you have an amd gpu ?18:43
tomtomgpsno it will boot to black screen18:43
tomtomgpsI tried a diffent amd gpu RX 580 same thing18:44
tomtomgpsIts a little odd18:44
tomtomgpsthe only thing that works for me is booting in safe mode18:44
morgan-laptopoh my install TRY UBUNTU works. Does an older version of TRY UBUNTU like 20.04 or 18.04 boot to TRY UBUNTU on your machine?18:45
morgan-laptopOK got it18:45
tomtomgpsI havnt tried because even arch does the same thing18:45
morgan-laptopthat's from the install medium or from your hard drive or both?18:45
tomtomgpsform usb18:46
tomtomgpsinsall18:46
morgan-laptop(I am not a smart one but untill someone else comes around we might just try and think togetter.18:46
morgan-laptop)18:46
tomtomgpsis your gpu amd aswell ?18:47
tomtomgpsin your laptop that is18:47
morgan-laptopI m going to back up my /home and reinstall ----- my laptop (which works) works. I am on it now. The laptopis HP and is amd.  The desktop which goes to black does not have amd, it has intel. The desktop does not have nvidia either. It has some kind of built in graphics.18:49
morgan-flashthis is the desktop -- booted off a flashdrive18:50
morgan-flashSo what I know about your system is: it is amd. Using 22.04 install media on a usb it will now work to TRY UBUNTU unless you do it in "safe mode"18:51
morgan-flash^^^ tomtomgps18:52
morgan-flashnow >> not work18:52
tomtomgpsit will only work in safe mode18:53
tomtomgpsi do not know if both of my gpus are borken or if I have some other hardware problem or if its only a softwre problem18:53
tomtomgpsi am leaning towards a softwrae problem18:54
tomtomgpsas i’ve moved the ubuntu ssd and both of my gpus in in my mac pro and i still get a blakc screen18:54
morgan-flashTues 12:20 PDT nope, no helpers around (took me till now to find my backup pocket drive.19:22
morgan-flashnow to figure out how to access the hard drive and the pocket drive to backup my /home19:23
morgan-flashQuestion: when one repartitions a hard drive - do the files - which may be scattered on the disk - get rewritten into the new smaller space?19:25
aldoqui connait nexspan19:25
hggdhmorgan-flash: no19:30
morgan-flashhggdh can you suggest search terms so I can learn about this problem? or is it just in my mind?  [I understood that old-windows packed all files at the beginning of the drive/partition but that linux scatters them around in some fashion for some advantage.]19:33
oerheks" linux does not know defragmentation"19:34
morgan-flashATM I am trying to understand the mount command so that I can write a copy of my /home to back up before rewriting the drive. (I assume that /home will back up -my stuff and settings- completely. AmIrite?19:34
morgan-flashHi oerhecks - I have come far-but-notsofar since we talked. I upgraded to 22.04 and messed with updating, then removing and reinstalling zoom. Now the computer boots to black. I spent two days with help from tomreyn and bashing-om to learn how to figure out what is wrong but I GiveUp. So I need to back up to prepeare for a reformat of the hard19:37
morgan-flashdrive. -- BUTafter I back up, I thought I might learn to repartition.19:37
morgan-flash1.st - I am booted up from the flash drive. I can see my pocket drive just fine. I have done the command    sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/    but I am now reading the  man nount  to see what I have done. (I realized I did not know)19:39
oerheksmount just connects the partition in the folder /mnt/ for access.19:39
morgan-flashand I found a learning-page https://it.engr.ncsu.edu/help/kb/accessing-hard-drive-data-using-ubuntu-live-cd/19:40
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oerhekscopy your /home/ would sava all your documents and setting, not sure you want settings too... i would not.19:41
morgan-flashOK oerheks I now realize I know nothing about folder /mnt/ and copied that command from yesterday so Danger Zone (using a command that is not understood)19:41
morgan-flashOK I read a lot and failed to  figure out how to see my hardrive so I can compy /home to a pocket drive. 22.04 install media os.19:53
oerhekscd /mnt/ and see what is mounted there with ls19:54
oerheksit might be a number as folder19:54
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morgan-flashwhile you were out oerheks I went to disks where I can see the 500 G hd but I cannot get "the new" screenshot to work - dont know where it puts the image. Said in clipboard but there is nothing to paste into image viewer. or into pastebin.  OK now I will run ...  >>  cd /mnt/ sees some files.20:06
morgan-flashbackup.apt-clone.tar.gz  dev   lib32       media  root  srv       usr20:06
morgan-flashbin                      etc   lib64       mnt    run   swapfile  var20:06
morgan-flashboot                     home  libx32      opt    sbin  sys20:06
morgan-flashcdrom                    lib   lost+found  proc   snap  tmp20:06
morgan-flashDisks says "Disk is OK, 16 bad sectors (38deg C/100degF)20:07
morgan-flashit is .2% full  that is bad. I think.20:08
nando_good mon20:16
nando_Hi20:17
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johnny_linuxanyone have experience with "zoneminder" ??22:00
johnny_linuxI have a 4 cam set-up with its own router.22:01
johnny_linuxby its own configuration, it is usable with a google app "android"22:02
leftyfbjohnny_linux: feel free to ask for experience and opinions in #ubuntu-offtopic22:02
johnny_linuxok. thanks22:03
geniiThey also have their own channel, although not that populous #zoneminder22:04
johnny_linuxgenii,  cool, was not aware of that. thanks.22:05
johnny_linuxI remember genii  back in 05.. great helper.22:06
johnny_linux0822:06
bordure_ecran_maBonsoir22:07
leftyfb!fr | bordure_ecran_ma22:07
ubottubordure_ecran_ma: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.22:07
bordure_ecran_mahi!*22:08
bordure_ecran_maanyone know how to fix the dependency libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 : Dépend: libgdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0-0 (>= 2.40.2-2build4)22:10
leftyfbbordure_ecran_ma: what version of ubuntu are you running?22:12
bordure_ecran_maubuntu 22.0422:13
lagunawell the new thunderbird 102.2.2 update from ubuntu finally fixed the menu flickering problems with show remote content...22:13
lagunai never had that problem on gentoo with mate...but it occured on ubuntu jammy with gnome...but the new version seems to have fixed it22:14
leftyfbbordure_ecran_ma: ( cat /etc/os-release ; apt-cache policy libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 ) | nc termbin.com 999922:15
lagunaone thing, i am getting a message in the software update app that chromium and vlc need updating but it says no updates are available in snap...why does it say to update22:16
leftyfblaguna: you might need to restart the app22:17
lagunaleftyfb..how do you restart it22:18
leftyfbclose it and open it22:18
lagunaleftyfb ok22:18
lagunaleftyfb nope it still says updates are available for chromium and vlc...but when you try to update it says no updates are available in snap22:19
lagunain accurate words it says no updates are available in snap22:21
lainalienim replacing an old linux install on my windows dual boot. the old install isnt accessible. The old install was done preserving my old /home and on EFI boot. the new install doesnt want to use EFI and I can't access the old /home (it has  lock on it in dolphin?)22:21
lainalienhow can i either recover my data or get this install to work right?22:22
lagunaleftyfb is it possible that it reads the updates are available from the apt repositories but then since they are snap files can't find the updates in snap22:23
bordure_ecran_mahttps://pastebin.com/p7G5XcCm22:23
johnny_linuxleftyfb,  ubuntu_offtopic reminds me of "face_book".  just sayin.22:28
lagunai don't know which i like better on ubuntu gnome...thunderbird or evolution email readers...they both seem to be working quite well22:30
johnny_linuxfrom experience, thunderbird works well.22:51
matsamanEvolution works harder at duplicating Outlook features22:51
matsamanwhich sometimes matters and frequently doesn't22:51
johnny_linuxyep22:51
matsamanit's also bigger/less light22:51
johnny_linuxim old school, claws-mail works great.22:53
johnny_linuxlearn it.22:53
matsamanif your company isn't requiring you to use some Exchange/Outlook feature, it shouldn't matter much and email is dead simple22:54
matsamantake your pick22:54
lagunajohnny_linux yes i used to use claws-mail long ago..when i could not get anything else to work...but now thunderbird and evolution scan the isp's and automatically configure the server parameters for any email accounts that makes things simple22:56
johnny_linuxlearn it22:56
johnny_linuxits to your advantage.22:57
leftyfb!ot | johnny_linux22:57
ubottujohnny_linux: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:57
johnny_linuxwell said.22:58
lagunamatsaman...why do you say email is dead...it is very useful for inviting someone to a zoom video chat or for letting another person have id numbers and passwords for a teamviewer remote control session22:58
leftyfblaguna: please have this conversation in #ubuntu-offtopic22:59
lagunaleftyfb ok leftyfb22:59
matsamanlaguna: 'dead simple'22:59
matsamanbut email _should_ of course be dead, since it's inferior in all ways to a thousand modern alternatives, all of which can appear 100% the same as an email client23:00
mybalzitchew23:03
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* sarnold hugs his mutt close23:08
johnny_linuxleftyfb,  I apologize for my discourse in my attempt in explaining the email programs that are included in the ubuntu symantics, thank you for your time and efforts.23:35
johnny_linux* Ubuntu-Synaptics.23:38
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