| mapreri | ddstreet, teward: my calendar says meeting in 18 minutes, right? | 14:42 |
|---|---|---|
| ddstreet | yep | 14:42 |
| mapreri | my calendar can be very noisy some days | 14:43 |
| ddstreet | o/ | 15:00 |
| mapreri | (give me an extra min pls) | 15:00 |
| ddstreet | sure | 15:00 |
| mapreri | here | 15:01 |
| mapreri | sorry, wanted to finish a mail :) | 15:01 |
| ddstreet | teward around? | 15:01 |
| ddstreet | ok let's start, he may join later | 15:02 |
| ddstreet | #startmeeting Ubuntu Backporters | 15:02 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 15:02:37 UTC. The chair is ddstreet. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 15:02 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick | 15:02 |
| ddstreet | ok let's run thru the previous action items...i am pretty sure almost all of mine are carry-over | 15:03 |
| ddstreet | #topic previous action items | 15:03 |
| mapreri | same, likely… | 15:03 |
| ddstreet | #subtopic ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) | 15:03 |
| mapreri | such horrible 2.5 weeks for me :( | 15:03 |
| ddstreet | #action ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) | 15:03 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) | 15:03 |
| ddstreet | i'm hoping to get started on some of my other items once the charter/policies is done | 15:03 |
| ddstreet | but also, summertime is not great for getting things done :) | 15:04 |
| ddstreet | #subtopic ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) | 15:04 |
| ddstreet | #action ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) | 15:04 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) | 15:04 |
| ddstreet | #subtopic ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) | 15:04 |
| ddstreet | #action ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) | 15:04 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) | 15:04 |
| ddstreet | #subtopic ddstreet schedule next mtg Oct 5 15:00 UTC | 15:04 |
| ddstreet | i did this one! ;-) | 15:04 |
| mapreri | :P | 15:04 |
| ddstreet | #subtopic mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) | 15:04 |
| mapreri | carried over, nothing done I believe | 15:05 |
| ddstreet | #action mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) | 15:05 |
| meetingology | ACTION: mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) | 15:05 |
| mapreri | (I mean, nothing new in the last month) | 15:05 |
| ddstreet | #subtopic mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) | 15:05 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 1001399 in lintian "lintian: adjust backports-upload-has-incorrect-version-number for ubuntu" [Normal, Open] | 15:05 |
| mapreri | the new lintian maintainer is busy with other projects, apparently :| | 15:05 |
| mapreri | will chase him down again | 15:05 |
| ddstreet | hopefully they are less busy over the fall/winter | 15:06 |
| ddstreet | #action mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) | 15:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) | 15:06 |
| ddstreet | #subtopic mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor (carried over) | 15:06 |
| mapreri | carried over | 15:06 |
| ddstreet | #action mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor (carried over) | 15:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor (carried over) | 15:06 |
| ddstreet | #subtopic mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process (carried over) | 15:07 |
| ddstreet | #action mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process (carried over) | 15:07 |
| meetingology | ACTION: mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process (carried over) | 15:07 |
| ddstreet | assumed carry over for that too | 15:07 |
| mapreri | yap | 15:07 |
| ddstreet | #subtopic mapreri poke unit193 about yt-dlp dep on dh-python | 15:07 |
| mapreri | uh, this I actually forgot | 15:07 |
| ddstreet | lol thats ok :) | 15:07 |
| ddstreet | should we carry it? | 15:08 |
| ddstreet | or drop it? | 15:08 |
| mapreri | but I now too time has passed, need to look what the thing was again | 15:08 |
| mapreri | please leave it | 15:08 |
| ddstreet | ok | 15:08 |
| ddstreet | #action mapreri poke unit193 about yt-dlp dep on dh-python | 15:08 |
| meetingology | ACTION: mapreri poke unit193 about yt-dlp dep on dh-python | 15:08 |
| mapreri | If it's there probably there was a good reason from past me | 15:08 |
| ddstreet | there's a bug associated, lemme at least link that for reference | 15:08 |
| mapreri | don't worry, I'll find it | 15:08 |
| ddstreet | ok | 15:08 |
| ddstreet | that's all previous action items | 15:08 |
| ddstreet | #topic open mailing list threads | 15:09 |
| ddstreet | #subtopic clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions | 15:09 |
| ddstreet | #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-backports/2022-February/022680.html | 15:09 |
| ddstreet | i think we can carry this over too | 15:09 |
| mapreri | checked, still in inbox | 15:09 |
| ddstreet | #action clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions | 15:09 |
| meetingology | ACTION: clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions | 15:09 |
| ddstreet | #subtopic charter/policies | 15:10 |
| mapreri | (I also found in inbox the thread about dh-python, fwiw) | 15:10 |
| ddstreet | thanks for reviewing charter/policies! i just saw your email | 15:10 |
| ddstreet | #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-backports/2022-October/022945.html | 15:10 |
| ddstreet | for reference | 15:10 |
| mapreri | yeah, of course I send such emails right before the meeting, what did you expect? :P | 15:11 |
| ddstreet | on quick read of your comments, the changes sound fine to me | 15:11 |
| ddstreet | lol | 15:11 |
| ddstreet | instead of trying to modify it now and re-review, i can update it after the meeting and send another email, and we can defer the vote to next meeting | 15:11 |
| ddstreet | if that sounds ok to you? | 15:11 |
| mapreri | sounds good. | 15:12 |
| mapreri | just checking | 15:12 |
| mapreri | electing the chair: super or simple majority? | 15:12 |
| ddstreet | #action ddstreet update charter/policies from mapreri review email, send new email asking for review again | 15:12 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ddstreet update charter/policies from mapreri review email, send new email asking for review again | 15:12 |
| ddstreet | i'm fine with either way, i think | 15:13 |
| mapreri | I also don't have a strong opinion on that one myself | 15:13 |
| mapreri | if you think simple may be easier, go with that (in my mail I wrote super) | 15:13 |
| ddstreet | i think i lean to just a simple majority | 15:13 |
| ddstreet | yeah, a simple majority for both appoint/approving, as well as removal, is probably best i think | 15:14 |
| mapreri | ack | 15:15 |
| ddstreet | ok i'll update the policies to state simple majority for chair add/remove | 15:15 |
| mapreri | …charter? | 15:15 |
| ddstreet | and we can tweak that pretty easy before the vote if we change our mind | 15:15 |
| ddstreet | oh charter right sorry | 15:15 |
| mapreri | good :) | 15:15 |
| ddstreet | yeah the charter currently says 'see the policies' but i agree it's easier to reduce cross-referencings | 15:15 |
| mapreri | next topic | 15:15 |
| mapreri | also, the policies don't say :P | 15:15 |
| ddstreet | yeah, clearly an oversight :) | 15:16 |
| ddstreet | i mean...i was testing you! lol | 15:16 |
| mapreri | :> | 15:16 |
| ddstreet | ok that's all ml threads | 15:16 |
| ddstreet | #topic open bugs | 15:16 |
| mapreri | I haven't kept up with the current bugs in the past month | 15:16 |
| mapreri | but looking at them now, I see it's the same set of open bugs from a month ago, so… | 15:17 |
| ddstreet | yep, one waiting on an upload | 15:17 |
| ddstreet | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/+source/limnoria/+bug/1983415 | 15:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1983415 in limnoria (Ubuntu Jammy) "[BPO] limnoria 2022.6.23-1 to jammy" [Undecided, New] | 15:17 |
| ddstreet | oh wait i think someone did upload that | 15:17 |
| mapreri | I *believe* that's already uploaded, just need checking | 15:17 |
| mapreri | yeah, unit193 msg'd me on irc a week or so ago about it | 15:17 |
| mapreri | so it's on my todo, but if you want to take it, go ahead | 15:17 |
| ddstreet | the limnoria one is done, i approved it earlier this week | 15:18 |
| ddstreet | i'll mark it | 15:18 |
| mapreri | ah good good ^^ | 15:18 |
| ddstreet | and one more bug | 15:18 |
| ddstreet | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+source/ipmctl/+bug/1968076 | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1968076 in ipmctl (Ubuntu Focal) "[BPO] ipmctl with support for CPS hardware" [Undecided, New] | 15:18 |
| ddstreet | i think this needs a sponsor | 15:18 |
| mapreri | yes | 15:19 |
| ddstreet | i think teward was going to sponsor it | 15:19 |
| ddstreet | i'll add a ping comment for him | 15:19 |
| mapreri | I guess we should either be hardliner and unsub us, or jfdi and sponsor it…? | 15:19 |
| mapreri | great | 15:19 |
| mapreri | handing out tasks to absentees... I love it! :D | 15:20 |
| ddstreet | i guess we can give it a bit more time before unsub | 15:20 |
| ddstreet | lol, he volunteered for it before so i'm re-purposing that :) | 15:20 |
| ddstreet | that's all the open bugs i see | 15:20 |
| ddstreet | #topic AOB | 15:21 |
| ddstreet | ok any other topics? | 15:21 |
| mapreri | about the other bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-dev-tools/+bug/1959115 - unit193 has some unpublished private patches I need to look at | 15:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1959115 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "update backportpackage and requestbackport scripts to behave according to new backport process" [High, New] | 15:21 |
| ddstreet | ah crap i moved topics too fast | 15:21 |
| ddstreet | ok that's excellent! | 15:21 |
| mapreri | also just had a quick look at the queues, I haven't spotted pending uploads | 15:22 |
| ddstreet | i'll add an action in the bugs topic section, i had assumed there was no movement on that one | 15:22 |
| ddstreet | hmm i guess we should have a topic section for pending uploads | 15:22 |
| mapreri | those patches are drowned on my IRC scrollback, so I guess I need to either go fishing or ask about them -.- | 15:22 |
| ddstreet | i think we've been pretty good about reviewing fairly regularly though | 15:22 |
| mapreri | yeah | 15:22 |
| mapreri | I think we are fine atm | 15:22 |
| ddstreet | #action mapreri review ubuntu-dev-tools patches for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-dev-tools/+bug/1959115 | 15:23 |
| meetingology | ACTION: mapreri review ubuntu-dev-tools patches for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-dev-tools/+bug/1959115 | 15:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1959115 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "update backportpackage and requestbackport scripts to behave according to new backport process" [High, New] | 15:23 |
| ddstreet | anything else before we decide on next mtg date? | 15:23 |
| mapreri | nope, I'm good | 15:23 |
| ddstreet | #subtopic next mtg date | 15:23 |
| mapreri | about this… | 15:24 |
| mapreri | uh | 15:24 |
| mapreri | IRL meeting in prague? | 15:24 |
| ddstreet | you'll be in prague? | 15:24 |
| ddstreet | in nov? | 15:24 |
| mapreri | I'm unavailable the week before the summit (for another IRL event), and the week with the summit is no good for irc (probably), so either the week after or…? | 15:24 |
| mapreri | yes, I'll be | 15:24 |
| ddstreet | ah the ubuntu summit | 15:25 |
| ddstreet | i will likely not be there | 15:25 |
| mapreri | :( | 15:25 |
| ddstreet | i'm not sure if teward will | 15:25 |
| mapreri | would have loved to meet you there :) | 15:25 |
| ddstreet | yeah, since i'm no longer with canonical, i'll probably not travel to many ubuntu conf | 15:26 |
| ddstreet | i would have too! | 15:26 |
| ddstreet | i'll try to plan farther out to attend a future one | 15:26 |
| mapreri | you are still an active core-dev, so it shouldn't matter much since the whole idea was to gather a bit of community? (at least, that's the public reason) | 15:26 |
| mapreri | but well, probably too late for planning? | 15:26 |
| ddstreet | sure, right, i just mean canonical use to pay for my travel to (some) confs | 15:27 |
| ddstreet | yeah i suspect it's too late for me to plan attending this one | 15:27 |
| ddstreet | just 1 month out | 15:27 |
| mapreri | so anyway, let's set for Nov 16th, 5 pm CET? (so… 16 UTC I believe)? | 15:27 |
| mapreri | since there is DST change… | 15:27 |
| mapreri | or do we want to keep the same? | 15:27 |
| mapreri | oh wait | 15:27 |
| ddstreet | nov 16 works for me | 15:28 |
| mapreri | actually 4pm CET is no good for me…, but 5pm CET is, so… | 15:28 |
| ddstreet | and i can do either, follow DST or not | 15:29 |
| ddstreet | so 5pm CET is 16:00 UTC on nov 16 right? | 15:29 |
| ddstreet | we're currently at 15:00 UTC for the mtg | 15:29 |
| ddstreet | right? | 15:29 |
| mapreri | going forward I have a recurring event on Wednesday that ends at 4pm CET (and then need to commute home) | 15:29 |
| mapreri | right, so let's move it to 16 UTC / 17 CET ? | 15:30 |
| ddstreet | sounds good, nov 16 at 16:00 UTC | 15:30 |
| ddstreet | #action ddstreet schedule next mtg nov 16 at 16:00 UTC | 15:30 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ddstreet schedule next mtg nov 16 at 16:00 UTC | 15:30 |
| ddstreet | any last topic before we end? | 15:31 |
| mapreri | I'm good | 15:31 |
| ddstreet | #endmeeting | 15:31 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 15:31:28 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-10-05-15.02.moin.txt | 15:31 |
| ddstreet | thanks mapreri! | 15:31 |
| mapreri | ty! o/ | 15:31 |
| ddstreet | hope the summit is good :) | 15:31 |
| mapreri | looking forward to it! | 15:32 |
| teward | ddstreet: apologies for AWOLness here today. High level deep dive security threat response @ work took all my time. emergency stuff happens. | 16:49 |
| teward | cc mapreri ^ | 16:49 |
| mapreri | teward: your company has way too many emergencies for my heart… /o\ | 16:51 |
| teward | sucks that new people dont read the policies for handling malware samples properly | 16:53 |
| teward | (one section of company does malware analysis) | 16:53 |
| teward | yes i will be sponsoring that one. later today actually (lunch first!) | 16:53 |
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