[14:42] ddstreet, teward: my calendar says meeting in 18 minutes, right? [14:42] yep [14:43] my calendar can be very noisy some days [15:00] o/ [15:00] (give me an extra min pls) [15:00] sure [15:01] here [15:01] sorry, wanted to finish a mail :) [15:01] teward around? [15:02] ok let's start, he may join later [15:02] #startmeeting Ubuntu Backporters [15:02] Meeting started at 15:02:37 UTC. The chair is ddstreet. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [15:02] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [15:03] ok let's run thru the previous action items...i am pretty sure almost all of mine are carry-over [15:03] #topic previous action items [15:03] same, likely… [15:03] #subtopic ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) [15:03] such horrible 2.5 weeks for me :( [15:03] #action ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) [15:03] ACTION: ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) [15:03] i'm hoping to get started on some of my other items once the charter/policies is done [15:04] but also, summertime is not great for getting things done :) [15:04] #subtopic ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) [15:04] #action ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) [15:04] ACTION: ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) [15:04] #subtopic ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) [15:04] #action ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) [15:04] ACTION: ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) [15:04] #subtopic ddstreet schedule next mtg Oct 5 15:00 UTC [15:04] i did this one! ;-) [15:04] :P [15:04] #subtopic mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) [15:05] carried over, nothing done I believe [15:05] #action mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) [15:05] ACTION: mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) [15:05] (I mean, nothing new in the last month) [15:05] #subtopic mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) [15:05] Debian bug 1001399 in lintian "lintian: adjust backports-upload-has-incorrect-version-number for ubuntu" [Normal, Open] [15:05] the new lintian maintainer is busy with other projects, apparently :| [15:05] will chase him down again [15:06] hopefully they are less busy over the fall/winter [15:06] #action mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) [15:06] ACTION: mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) [15:06] #subtopic mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor (carried over) [15:06] carried over [15:06] #action mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor (carried over) [15:06] ACTION: mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor (carried over) [15:07] #subtopic mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process (carried over) [15:07] #action mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process (carried over) [15:07] ACTION: mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process (carried over) [15:07] assumed carry over for that too [15:07] yap [15:07] #subtopic mapreri poke unit193 about yt-dlp dep on dh-python [15:07] uh, this I actually forgot [15:07] lol thats ok :) [15:08] should we carry it? [15:08] or drop it? [15:08] but I now too time has passed, need to look what the thing was again [15:08] please leave it [15:08] ok [15:08] #action mapreri poke unit193 about yt-dlp dep on dh-python [15:08] ACTION: mapreri poke unit193 about yt-dlp dep on dh-python [15:08] If it's there probably there was a good reason from past me [15:08] there's a bug associated, lemme at least link that for reference [15:08] don't worry, I'll find it [15:08] ok [15:08] that's all previous action items [15:09] #topic open mailing list threads [15:09] #subtopic clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions [15:09] #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-backports/2022-February/022680.html [15:09] i think we can carry this over too [15:09] checked, still in inbox [15:09] #action clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions [15:09] ACTION: clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions [15:10] #subtopic charter/policies [15:10] (I also found in inbox the thread about dh-python, fwiw) [15:10] thanks for reviewing charter/policies! i just saw your email [15:10] #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-backports/2022-October/022945.html [15:10] for reference [15:11] yeah, of course I send such emails right before the meeting, what did you expect? :P [15:11] on quick read of your comments, the changes sound fine to me [15:11] lol [15:11] instead of trying to modify it now and re-review, i can update it after the meeting and send another email, and we can defer the vote to next meeting [15:11] if that sounds ok to you? [15:12] sounds good. [15:12] just checking [15:12] electing the chair: super or simple majority? [15:12] #action ddstreet update charter/policies from mapreri review email, send new email asking for review again [15:12] ACTION: ddstreet update charter/policies from mapreri review email, send new email asking for review again [15:13] i'm fine with either way, i think [15:13] I also don't have a strong opinion on that one myself [15:13] if you think simple may be easier, go with that (in my mail I wrote super) [15:13] i think i lean to just a simple majority [15:14] yeah, a simple majority for both appoint/approving, as well as removal, is probably best i think [15:15] ack [15:15] ok i'll update the policies to state simple majority for chair add/remove [15:15] …charter? [15:15] and we can tweak that pretty easy before the vote if we change our mind [15:15] oh charter right sorry [15:15] good :) [15:15] yeah the charter currently says 'see the policies' but i agree it's easier to reduce cross-referencings [15:15] next topic [15:15] also, the policies don't say :P [15:16] yeah, clearly an oversight :) [15:16] i mean...i was testing you! lol [15:16] :> [15:16] ok that's all ml threads [15:16] #topic open bugs [15:16] I haven't kept up with the current bugs in the past month [15:17] but looking at them now, I see it's the same set of open bugs from a month ago, so… [15:17] yep, one waiting on an upload [15:17] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/+source/limnoria/+bug/1983415 [15:17] Launchpad bug 1983415 in limnoria (Ubuntu Jammy) "[BPO] limnoria 2022.6.23-1 to jammy" [Undecided, New] [15:17] oh wait i think someone did upload that [15:17] I *believe* that's already uploaded, just need checking [15:17] yeah, unit193 msg'd me on irc a week or so ago about it [15:17] so it's on my todo, but if you want to take it, go ahead [15:18] the limnoria one is done, i approved it earlier this week [15:18] i'll mark it [15:18] ah good good ^^ [15:18] and one more bug [15:18] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+source/ipmctl/+bug/1968076 [15:18] Launchpad bug 1968076 in ipmctl (Ubuntu Focal) "[BPO] ipmctl with support for CPS hardware" [Undecided, New] [15:18] i think this needs a sponsor [15:19] yes [15:19] i think teward was going to sponsor it [15:19] i'll add a ping comment for him [15:19] I guess we should either be hardliner and unsub us, or jfdi and sponsor it…? [15:19] great [15:20] handing out tasks to absentees... I love it! :D [15:20] i guess we can give it a bit more time before unsub [15:20] lol, he volunteered for it before so i'm re-purposing that :) [15:20] that's all the open bugs i see [15:21] #topic AOB [15:21] ok any other topics? [15:21] about the other bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-dev-tools/+bug/1959115 - unit193 has some unpublished private patches I need to look at [15:21] Launchpad bug 1959115 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "update backportpackage and requestbackport scripts to behave according to new backport process" [High, New] [15:21] ah crap i moved topics too fast [15:21] ok that's excellent! [15:22] also just had a quick look at the queues, I haven't spotted pending uploads [15:22] i'll add an action in the bugs topic section, i had assumed there was no movement on that one [15:22] hmm i guess we should have a topic section for pending uploads [15:22] those patches are drowned on my IRC scrollback, so I guess I need to either go fishing or ask about them -.- [15:22] i think we've been pretty good about reviewing fairly regularly though [15:22] yeah [15:22] I think we are fine atm [15:23] #action mapreri review ubuntu-dev-tools patches for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-dev-tools/+bug/1959115 [15:23] ACTION: mapreri review ubuntu-dev-tools patches for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-dev-tools/+bug/1959115 [15:23] Launchpad bug 1959115 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "update backportpackage and requestbackport scripts to behave according to new backport process" [High, New] [15:23] anything else before we decide on next mtg date? [15:23] nope, I'm good [15:23] #subtopic next mtg date [15:24] about this… [15:24] uh [15:24] IRL meeting in prague? [15:24] you'll be in prague? [15:24] in nov? [15:24] I'm unavailable the week before the summit (for another IRL event), and the week with the summit is no good for irc (probably), so either the week after or…? [15:24] yes, I'll be [15:25] ah the ubuntu summit [15:25] i will likely not be there [15:25] :( [15:25] i'm not sure if teward will [15:25] would have loved to meet you there :) [15:26] yeah, since i'm no longer with canonical, i'll probably not travel to many ubuntu conf [15:26] i would have too! [15:26] i'll try to plan farther out to attend a future one [15:26] you are still an active core-dev, so it shouldn't matter much since the whole idea was to gather a bit of community? (at least, that's the public reason) [15:26] but well, probably too late for planning? [15:27] sure, right, i just mean canonical use to pay for my travel to (some) confs [15:27] yeah i suspect it's too late for me to plan attending this one [15:27] just 1 month out [15:27] so anyway, let's set for Nov 16th, 5 pm CET? (so… 16 UTC I believe)? [15:27] since there is DST change… [15:27] or do we want to keep the same? [15:27] oh wait [15:28] nov 16 works for me [15:28] actually 4pm CET is no good for me…, but 5pm CET is, so… [15:29] and i can do either, follow DST or not [15:29] so 5pm CET is 16:00 UTC on nov 16 right? [15:29] we're currently at 15:00 UTC for the mtg [15:29] right? [15:29] going forward I have a recurring event on Wednesday that ends at 4pm CET (and then need to commute home) [15:30] right, so let's move it to 16 UTC / 17 CET ? [15:30] sounds good, nov 16 at 16:00 UTC [15:30] #action ddstreet schedule next mtg nov 16 at 16:00 UTC [15:30] ACTION: ddstreet schedule next mtg nov 16 at 16:00 UTC [15:31] any last topic before we end? [15:31] I'm good [15:31] #endmeeting [15:31] Meeting ended at 15:31:28 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-10-05-15.02.moin.txt [15:31] thanks mapreri! [15:31] ty! o/ [15:31] hope the summit is good :) [15:32] looking forward to it! [16:49] ddstreet: apologies for AWOLness here today. High level deep dive security threat response @ work took all my time. emergency stuff happens. [16:49] cc mapreri ^ [16:51] teward: your company has way too many emergencies for my heart… /o\ [16:53] sucks that new people dont read the policies for handling malware samples properly [16:53] (one section of company does malware analysis) [16:53] yes i will be sponsoring that one. later today actually (lunch first!)