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lotuspsychjegood morning01:41
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murmelcan someone explain to me when you see the advertisements on ubuntu (for ubuntu pro)? I am all updated, but can't see it (at least what people cry about)08:38
murmelarraybolt3[m]: may I pm you?08:59
ogramurmel, that feature used to be only in -proposed which nobody should enable permanently ... not sure it changed with the official announcement though, the package might have propagated to the actual archive now 09:05
murmelogra: kk, I thought something with my install is bogus09:06
ograi personally dont see any message either here on my 22.04 machines09:06
ograubuntu-advantage-tools 27.11.2~22.04.1 installed here ... 09:07
murmelogra: interestingly enough, software-properties livepatch tab, still talks about ubuntu advantage not ubuntu pro09:07
ograif you see someone complaining, check if they have -proposed enabled, check apt policy ubuntu-advantage-tools, the official version of the tools should still be the one i gave above09:07
murmelogra: eh, i don't want to interact with reddit xD09:08
ogralol09:08
ograwell, i was referring to IRC 🙂09:08
murmelthanks :) will keep this in mind if somebody comes screaming :)09:09
* ogra tends to ignore reddit or twitter or whatnot 🙂 09:09
murmeleh I read a bit, but that's it (only user related subreddits)09:09
murmellinux*09:09
JanCthe free 10y support for personal use has existed for a long time, so how is that news...?  :)09:43
murmelJanC: it's more about more packages getting longer support09:44
murmelfor example wordpress, docker09:45
murmeland they are testing, if it's possible to support universe for 10y (at least from what I read into it)09:45
ograJanC, it includes universe (and more) now 09:46
JanCwell, most of universe is already "best effort" at best...09:47
murmelJanC: best effort mostly from the community, not canonical. that changes now09:47
ograJanC, along with what murmel said, you can for example also have (paid) support for php 7.x and whatnot, evn though it is EOL upstream09:49
ogra*even09:49
JanCwell, sure, but AFAIK support is not part of the free tier? :)09:50
murmelogra: huh? I thought you could get that anyway as it's in main?09:50
ograright, i meant "security support" but for EOLed stuff thats indeed all paid ... 09:50
ogramurmel, well, you dont get php 7.x on 16.04 i think ... if you want to kep your setup running as is you can do that now (and pay for it)09:51
ogra*keep09:51
ograi.e. it isnt only universe but also out-of-archive select upstream projects 09:52
murmelogra: sure, but why would canonical support 7.x on 16.04 if you can't get it anyway? (or am I misunderstanding you?)09:52
JanCit might be available to those who pay...09:53
ogramurmel, because someone pays for it 🙂 they want to upgrade php but keep the machines on the existing release09:53
murmelooohhh09:53
murmelmakes sense09:54
murmelat least 7.0 is on 16.04 xD09:54
ograyeah, i made that up ... i didnt actually check the actual versions (though i know 7.4 is EOL soon)09:55
ograpoint is that you can now pay for getting security support for out of archive stuff too ... beyond the universe offer 09:55
murmelI would never use that offer, but at least good to know it exists09:56
ograwell, because you are not an enterprise 🙂09:56
JanCthat sort of things mostly makes sense for businesses & not home users anyway09:56
ograyeah09:56
ograit is just the new business plan behind it ... with the advantage for you as non-paying user to benefit from the included universe support now 09:57
murmelwell, i _do_ own a business....09:58
JanCif you have ≤5 computers it's still free apparently09:58
murmelyes09:59
arraybolt3[m]murmel: Feel free to PM me, however I probably won't respond until later tonight.13:38
arraybolt3[m](It's 8:38 AM where I'm at, I'll be free at around 7:00 PM.)13:39
ceayohi14:49
ceayohi14:54
Bashing-omUWN: Issue756 released to the general public: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue756 :D20:01
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daftykinsstomper2: might be worth fixing your connection / stopping reconnect attempts20:29

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