lotuspsychje | good morning | 01:41 |
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murmel | can someone explain to me when you see the advertisements on ubuntu (for ubuntu pro)? I am all updated, but can't see it (at least what people cry about) | 08:38 |
murmel | arraybolt3[m]: may I pm you? | 08:59 |
ogra | murmel, that feature used to be only in -proposed which nobody should enable permanently ... not sure it changed with the official announcement though, the package might have propagated to the actual archive now | 09:05 |
murmel | ogra: kk, I thought something with my install is bogus | 09:06 |
ogra | i personally dont see any message either here on my 22.04 machines | 09:06 |
ogra | ubuntu-advantage-tools 27.11.2~22.04.1 installed here ... | 09:07 |
murmel | ogra: interestingly enough, software-properties livepatch tab, still talks about ubuntu advantage not ubuntu pro | 09:07 |
ogra | if you see someone complaining, check if they have -proposed enabled, check apt policy ubuntu-advantage-tools, the official version of the tools should still be the one i gave above | 09:07 |
murmel | ogra: eh, i don't want to interact with reddit xD | 09:08 |
ogra | lol | 09:08 |
ogra | well, i was referring to IRC 🙂 | 09:08 |
murmel | thanks :) will keep this in mind if somebody comes screaming :) | 09:09 |
* ogra tends to ignore reddit or twitter or whatnot 🙂 | 09:09 | |
murmel | eh I read a bit, but that's it (only user related subreddits) | 09:09 |
murmel | linux* | 09:09 |
JanC | the free 10y support for personal use has existed for a long time, so how is that news...? :) | 09:43 |
murmel | JanC: it's more about more packages getting longer support | 09:44 |
murmel | for example wordpress, docker | 09:45 |
murmel | and they are testing, if it's possible to support universe for 10y (at least from what I read into it) | 09:45 |
ogra | JanC, it includes universe (and more) now | 09:46 |
JanC | well, most of universe is already "best effort" at best... | 09:47 |
murmel | JanC: best effort mostly from the community, not canonical. that changes now | 09:47 |
ogra | JanC, along with what murmel said, you can for example also have (paid) support for php 7.x and whatnot, evn though it is EOL upstream | 09:49 |
ogra | *even | 09:49 |
JanC | well, sure, but AFAIK support is not part of the free tier? :) | 09:50 |
murmel | ogra: huh? I thought you could get that anyway as it's in main? | 09:50 |
ogra | right, i meant "security support" but for EOLed stuff thats indeed all paid ... | 09:50 |
ogra | murmel, well, you dont get php 7.x on 16.04 i think ... if you want to kep your setup running as is you can do that now (and pay for it) | 09:51 |
ogra | *keep | 09:51 |
ogra | i.e. it isnt only universe but also out-of-archive select upstream projects | 09:52 |
murmel | ogra: sure, but why would canonical support 7.x on 16.04 if you can't get it anyway? (or am I misunderstanding you?) | 09:52 |
JanC | it might be available to those who pay... | 09:53 |
ogra | murmel, because someone pays for it 🙂 they want to upgrade php but keep the machines on the existing release | 09:53 |
murmel | ooohhh | 09:53 |
murmel | makes sense | 09:54 |
murmel | at least 7.0 is on 16.04 xD | 09:54 |
ogra | yeah, i made that up ... i didnt actually check the actual versions (though i know 7.4 is EOL soon) | 09:55 |
ogra | point is that you can now pay for getting security support for out of archive stuff too ... beyond the universe offer | 09:55 |
murmel | I would never use that offer, but at least good to know it exists | 09:56 |
ogra | well, because you are not an enterprise 🙂 | 09:56 |
JanC | that sort of things mostly makes sense for businesses & not home users anyway | 09:56 |
ogra | yeah | 09:56 |
ogra | it is just the new business plan behind it ... with the advantage for you as non-paying user to benefit from the included universe support now | 09:57 |
murmel | well, i _do_ own a business.... | 09:58 |
JanC | if you have ≤5 computers it's still free apparently | 09:58 |
murmel | yes | 09:59 |
arraybolt3[m] | murmel: Feel free to PM me, however I probably won't respond until later tonight. | 13:38 |
arraybolt3[m] | (It's 8:38 AM where I'm at, I'll be free at around 7:00 PM.) | 13:39 |
ceayo | hi | 14:49 |
ceayo | hi | 14:54 |
Bashing-om | UWN: Issue756 released to the general public: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue756 :D | 20:01 |
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daftykins | stomper2: might be worth fixing your connection / stopping reconnect attempts | 20:29 |
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