[01:41] good morning === wez_hn is now known as wez_hv === wez_hv is now known as wez_hv_ [08:38] can someone explain to me when you see the advertisements on ubuntu (for ubuntu pro)? I am all updated, but can't see it (at least what people cry about) [08:59] arraybolt3[m]: may I pm you? [09:05] murmel, that feature used to be only in -proposed which nobody should enable permanently ... not sure it changed with the official announcement though, the package might have propagated to the actual archive now [09:06] ogra: kk, I thought something with my install is bogus [09:06] i personally dont see any message either here on my 22.04 machines [09:07] ubuntu-advantage-tools 27.11.2~22.04.1 installed here ... [09:07] ogra: interestingly enough, software-properties livepatch tab, still talks about ubuntu advantage not ubuntu pro [09:07] if you see someone complaining, check if they have -proposed enabled, check apt policy ubuntu-advantage-tools, the official version of the tools should still be the one i gave above [09:08] ogra: eh, i don't want to interact with reddit xD [09:08] lol [09:08] well, i was referring to IRC 🙂 [09:09] thanks :) will keep this in mind if somebody comes screaming :) [09:09] * ogra tends to ignore reddit or twitter or whatnot 🙂 [09:09] eh I read a bit, but that's it (only user related subreddits) [09:09] linux* [09:43] the free 10y support for personal use has existed for a long time, so how is that news...? :) [09:44] JanC: it's more about more packages getting longer support [09:45] for example wordpress, docker [09:45] and they are testing, if it's possible to support universe for 10y (at least from what I read into it) [09:46] JanC, it includes universe (and more) now [09:47] well, most of universe is already "best effort" at best... [09:47] JanC: best effort mostly from the community, not canonical. that changes now [09:49] JanC, along with what murmel said, you can for example also have (paid) support for php 7.x and whatnot, evn though it is EOL upstream [09:49] *even [09:50] well, sure, but AFAIK support is not part of the free tier? :) [09:50] ogra: huh? I thought you could get that anyway as it's in main? [09:50] right, i meant "security support" but for EOLed stuff thats indeed all paid ... [09:51] murmel, well, you dont get php 7.x on 16.04 i think ... if you want to kep your setup running as is you can do that now (and pay for it) [09:51] *keep [09:52] i.e. it isnt only universe but also out-of-archive select upstream projects [09:52] ogra: sure, but why would canonical support 7.x on 16.04 if you can't get it anyway? (or am I misunderstanding you?) [09:53] it might be available to those who pay... [09:53] murmel, because someone pays for it 🙂 they want to upgrade php but keep the machines on the existing release [09:53] ooohhh [09:54] makes sense [09:54] at least 7.0 is on 16.04 xD [09:55] yeah, i made that up ... i didnt actually check the actual versions (though i know 7.4 is EOL soon) [09:55] point is that you can now pay for getting security support for out of archive stuff too ... beyond the universe offer [09:56] I would never use that offer, but at least good to know it exists [09:56] well, because you are not an enterprise 🙂 [09:56] that sort of things mostly makes sense for businesses & not home users anyway [09:56] yeah [09:57] it is just the new business plan behind it ... with the advantage for you as non-paying user to benefit from the included universe support now [09:58] well, i _do_ own a business.... [09:58] if you have ≤5 computers it's still free apparently [09:59] yes [13:38] murmel: Feel free to PM me, however I probably won't respond until later tonight. [13:39] (It's 8:38 AM where I'm at, I'll be free at around 7:00 PM.) [14:49] hi [14:54] hi [20:01] UWN: Issue756 released to the general public: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue756 :D === wez_hv_ is now known as wez [20:29] stomper2: might be worth fixing your connection / stopping reconnect attempts