[00:05] anybody get this error and know how to fix this (snapd) https://paste.debian.net/1256732/ sometimes it fixes itself on the next day, somtimes not [00:09] ogra: any chance you're still awake? :) [00:10] isn't he eu time? (i only guess from his name) [00:10] sarnold: I probably can't help but I am still awake. [00:11] arraybolt3[m]: ah good :) what's murmel's error message mean? :D [00:11] oh, additionally, this only ever happens in vms [00:11] refresh itself works (most of the time, not always) [00:15] murmel: Maybe check your router settings? I once had some quite confusing internet behavior that only happened in VMs that progressively crippled my connection until only Wikipedia and apt would work that I can remember. I was (and am) using a mobile hotspot for my Internet connection, and changing the APN immediately fixed it. [00:15] (Maybe QoS might be getting in the way somehow?) [00:16] arraybolt3[m]: ugh, I don't own the router. but as this happens on multiple public wifis (and never on the host) i almost don't think it's because of that [00:16] You using virt-manager or some other libvirt-based solution? [00:17] virt-manager [00:17] eh and now I can't even refresh :S [00:17] User session or system session? [00:17] system [00:18] murmel: Try making a VM as a user session and see if that makes a difference. [00:19] If so, perhaps something in your bridged networking setup is causing the problem. [00:27] somebody knows if the kernel in the server install gets downloaded during install? it quite "hangs" there (I assume as my internet speed is very slow) [00:29] yeah can answer my own question :(. it does [00:39] arraybolt3[m]: hm, it works in the user session, but not sure if it will work always or not, thanks :) will try some more [00:39] also couldn't test 100% the same setup, as it didn't let me use tpm inside the vm (as it couldn't access swtpm [00:41] murmel: Bah, if it's working in the user session, that probably means something's messing stuff up in the bridged networking area... which I have absolutely no experience with, so, in the famous words of Arch Linux, "Bailing out, you're on your own. Good luck." [00:42] arraybolt3[m]: interestingly enough, i didn't change anything, except switching from ufw to firewalld on the host. (so same bridge in the libvirt zone) [00:43] That sounds like a likely culprit to me. A firewall blocks network traffic, and you're having issues with blocked network traffic. I'd check the firewall configuration then. [00:43] (Er, I guess not blocked network traffic, but you're getting a "Forbidden" error, which sounds like something a firewall might do, at least to my mind.) [00:44] just turned off fw, flushed ruleset, but still not working. I guess I will wait till it works after going to sleep xD === dtomato0 is now known as dtomato [02:05] ever since upgrading to 22.04, `pass` has been using wl-clipboard instead of xclip. It causes this annoying flash and delay when copying passwords. Any idea how to force `pass` to use xclip? [02:09] wl-clipboard sounds like a wayland thing and xclip sounds like an x11 thing; maybe if you run an xorg session rather than wayland session? [02:09] ash_worksi: pretty sure you would need to switch over to using xorg. (which you can do when logging in, use the cogwheel to choose the xorg session) [02:11] murmel: Oh, much more eloquent than "gear thingie". Cogwheel. I'll remember that. [02:12] I won't :( [02:12] murmel: apparently I had to use the latest commit directly which hasn't been pushed to canonical yet [02:13] I guess [02:13] thanks everybody [03:02] halo [03:02] halo [03:02] jj [03:03] halo [03:04] halo [03:04] ardhian: can we help you with something? [03:05] halo [03:05] quit [03:05] quit === keypushe- is now known as keypusher === rs20096 is now known as rs2009 [03:40] Please upgrade to the latest Firefox or Chrome. [03:40] Every few days firefox is out of date and gives a popup and I have no idea what is happening now [03:40] How do I fix this? [03:40] I have already tried sudo snap refresh and all that. [03:41] Firefox is still out of date, yes it has been restarted, and yes it is still out of date. [03:41] firefox 105.0.3-1 1943 latest/stable mozilla✓ - [03:41] are you running the firefox you think you're running? [03:41] I don't understand what is happening. Anytime I start firefox and try to use it, most the sites I use are broken since firefox is always apparently otu of date. [03:41] Like, does the about match that version number? [03:41] Yes. [03:42] I don't keep up with firefox so I don't know the 'updated version' [03:42] Let me see what Pop! has. [03:42] 105.0.3 (64-bit) as reported by about [03:42] I've got 105.0.3 as well. [03:42] firefox 105.0.3-1 1943 latest/stable mozilla✓ - [03:42] as reported by snap [03:42] And it doesn't complain about being not up to date. [03:42] snap refresh says nothing to update [03:42] No [03:42] The websites tell me, browser is out of date. [03:43] Oh. They probably don't like the browser version for other reasons. [03:43] try one of those browser agent header switchers. [03:43] So magically just a few days ago they decided to do this? [03:43] Worked for years without problems. [03:43] 22.04 has issues. [03:43] Could be a library? Who knows. [03:44] I doubt this is an ubuntu issue. I could be wrong but it doesn't smell like it. [03:44] Can you share one of the websites in question? [03:44] I can't. [03:45] And on that note, I give up. [03:45] I'll manually install firefox myself in ~/bin [03:45] This is ridiculous. [03:45] Absolutely ridiculous. Whoever decided to put firefox in a snap and have us deal with that was a worst decision possible. [03:46] Firefox is almost always out of date, everytimne I start the browser, it's out of date and never works. [03:46] It's infuriating. [03:46] Ubuntu has been nothing but headaches. I'm so tired and exhausted of having to deal with these issues. [03:46] I need the OS to get out of my way so I can get work done. [03:46] This is not a distro where you can get work done. Things don't work. [03:46] I'm not happy and I'm going to look for a different distribution. [03:47] Sweet. [03:47] A lot of people get work done every day on ubuntu. [03:48] I should have known better than to try some corporate nonsense that doesn't care about users, only about companies they sell their Ubuntu support to. So that's another reason why I'm out. [03:48] And ubuntu variants. [03:48] This feels very A<>B [03:48] Have to depend on community support and the ubuntu using community just isnt' as smart as say arch or debian or some other distro community. [03:48] I don't know. I'm just speaking my honest take on things. [03:49] My apologies if this is harsh in any manner. I'm just fed up. [03:49] Well if a piece of massive software breaks, I generally don't blame the OS. [03:49] But this is support, and I apprecaite your attempt at help. [03:49] Let's not talk more about my frustrations as that's neither here nor there. [03:49] It's hard to give support without replicating the issue and you can't share the problem sites, so it's kind of a dead end. [03:50] Well the OS decides to do things in a silly way, that breaks daily functionailty, then yeah, the OS and the OS people are to blame. [03:50] I did not decide to put firefox in a snap package, the OS people did. Is what I meant. :) [03:50] Gotcha. I can't fault your distaste for snap. I share it. [03:51] bougyman: Thanks for understanding. [03:51] I appreciate you. [03:51] Doesn't mozilla have a deb and apt repositories, though? [03:51] That's how I manage my chrome install to avoid snap. [03:51] I'm sure they do [03:51] Yeah, I may do the same. === aritzgon is now known as aritz [04:57] Macedonicus, the kernels are only less than 15MB in size [04:57] So no, you won't gain more space removing old kernels [04:58] TT [04:58] mega problems with new instalation lubuntu from 16.04 to 22.04 fresh instalatiom more than 2 hours omg.. [04:58] wtf old golden lubuntu 16.04 [04:59] i need for PHP 7.4+ new sstem :-/ [04:59] system [04:59] horrible experience with instalation LVM , grub errors..etc.. [05:00] last chance separately / home @ /boot [05:01] Can anyone help solve my problem? The manpage of `pro` shows that the services I can enable are `cc-eal`, `cis`, `esm` (not `esm-infra`), `fips`, `fips-updates`, `ros` and `ros-updates`. But running the command `sudo pro enable esm`, I get the following output: [05:01] sudo pro enable esm [05:01] One moment, checking your subscription first [05:01] Cannot enable unknown service 'esm'. [05:01] Try cc-eal, esm-infra, fips, fips-updates, livepatch, usg. [05:02] if is crash i downgrade to 18.04.. and other aplication i make on server :-( do my workstation is ... non-use, non sence :-/ pratham thx [05:10] HP-UX: bougyman: mozilla doesn't. there is a community repo called mozilla-team [05:11] murmel: doesn't interest me, I'm not a mozilla user, but that might help HP-UX [05:11] Thanks. [05:11] bougyman: I just wanted to point it out to you, if somebody ever asks again [05:11] Ack. === pah is now known as pa === rs20092 is now known as rs2009 [06:02] Gotcha [06:05] I cant apt install anything [06:05] and apt update hangs [06:05] Can you pastebin the output of those commands? [06:05] Acquire::http::Pipeline-Depth "0"; [06:05] wait sorry [06:06] that was something that didnt work [06:06] https://pastebin.com/b0YJXChK === SteelRose_ is now known as SteelRose === feelingsreal is now known as Guest4919 === xenial is now known as Guest9973 === denningsrogue7 is now known as denningsrogue [06:54] i just noticed a slight inconsistency(?) when i navigate to libreoffice by clicking the icon in the panel, it just brings the top document in view, when i close it,am back at where i came from (e.g. browser) but when i navigate to libreoffice via cmd+tab, it brings all open documents to front [06:55] somehow the latter seems more natural to me (maybe because im a former mac user) [07:03] is there a reason snaps dont refresh if the app is running? this seems "wrong" to me, one should be able to update them and then on next execution you get the new version [07:05] because snaps suck? Just one person's opinion. === blurry1 is now known as _8lurry [07:09] sepi [07:09] I'd think a part of the thing snaps should do, is be able to install in parallel to the running instance (so not to disrupt it) and then future executions get new version [07:10] i.e. one runs a docker container as :latest and it wont dirsrupt existing running containers === KpuCko_ is now known as KpuCko [07:52] spotter: suppose firefox opens its bookmarks database; then you run a completely different firefox process which opens the same file => this results in file corruption, you have now lost your data [07:53] spotter: your scenario would only work if the old version would use different data than the new version, or if all the applications were designed for multiple processes writing to the same file [07:54] Ah you meant "install without running", sure that should be possible; I was talking about running the new version before the old one finishes [08:18] hi [08:18] Whats the best way to update my BIOS/UEFI on Linux? On Windoze, it updates via windows update, which makes firmware updates easy. [08:25] check the manufactures method, it is a "them" problem and not a platform problem all in all. [08:27] hi guys i'm using linux lite. my usb mouse's clicks don't always work [08:31] ，， [08:39] morning [08:40] The goal being to pick a random line from the hostnames.txt file, then set that output as the hostname using hostnamectl hostname. [08:40] Is this syntax right? [08:40] "shuf -a 1 $(hostnamectl hostname /path/hostnames.txt)" [08:46] Mage132692: see #linux for the answer to this exercise :) [08:49] these commands definitely have the wrong order [08:49] yeah [08:49] not sure what the right order is [08:54] hi [08:54] The goal being to pick a random line from the hostnames.txt file, then set that output as the hostname using hostnamectl hostname. [08:54] Is this syntax right? [08:54] hostnamectl hostname $(shuf -n1 list.txt) [08:54] This will be a .sh file, so I may need ""'' etc. [08:54] why Mage13269227 ? sounds very sketchy [08:54] TO randomize my hostname for network privacy [08:55] Mage13269227: yeah that looks right [08:55] !hostname [08:55] Use hostname to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. [08:55] Does it need "" '' etc [08:55] its going to be a .sh file, which will be loaded by a SystemD service [08:55] EriC^^: it's probably part of some linux examination course, we gave the answer in #linux but regretted it :) [08:56] no Mage13269227 [08:56] Its not an exam... [08:56] alkisg: :) [08:59] My WIFI is disconnecting randomly... I suspect a Linux Hardware/driver incompatability, any ideas on how to diagnose wifi error logs or fix the driver or it may be unfixable? [09:02] haloo [09:04] exitt [09:04] exit [09:15] Where is my error: https://dpaste.com/AXW36GRPV.txt [09:19] Hello [09:29] Mage132692: what's the error message you get? [09:29] Mage132692: you are almost in every ubuntu, linux newtworking channel asking the same thing :) [09:29] shift prt-scrn no longer let's me select the region to take as a screenshot. Is there a way in ubuntu 22.04? [09:30] Mage132692: it should be "hostnamectl set-hostname ... " and not "hostnamectl hostname ... " [09:31] thanks [09:31] ok [09:31] how do I test the service again [09:33] ERRORS [09:33] "Oct 12 02:13:52 host111111111 systemd[6485]: hostnamerandomizationservice.service: Failed to execute /usr/bin/>" [09:33] hostnamerandomizationservice.service: Failed at step EXEC spawnin [09:34] I suspect my .service is bugged now [09:34] Mage132692: your .service file is fine... you only need to fix the shell script [09:34] and then: systemctl restart foobar.service [09:37] Hows this rose [09:37] https://dpaste.com/AJD9SK4M3.txt === solsTiCe6 is now known as solsTiCe [09:42] Mage132692: it looks better [09:43] Mage132692: I hope you realize that your new hostnames won't be resolved by DNS... [09:43] I feel like this code may have errors, needing ' or " hostnamectl set-hostname $(shuf -n1 /home/NAME11/Desktop/TextFiles/hostnamelist.txt) [09:43] what do u mean [09:43] Mage132692: what's the reason to do that hostname change? [09:43] i just want my new hostname to be seen as my computers name to the wifi router [09:43] Mage132692: nope... the Bash script will work [09:44] Mage132692: how do guarantee that no 2 hosts pick the same name from the file? [09:45] im only picking once [09:45] or do u mean two computers on the same wifi network [09:46] Mage132692: yep... or whatever setup you have... [09:47] well [09:47] im sure that happens naturally [09:48] 5 people with default hostname etc [09:49] Mage132692: still, you must be open to the possibility that 2 or more computers get the same hostname... :-) [09:49] How can I best diagnose random wifi disconnections? [09:49] Mage132692: that's a topic for a network channel... [09:49] yeah buts its rare [09:49] hostname collision would be rare [09:49] Mage132692: checking your router's logs is a good place to start [09:50] i ncant [09:50] i cant [09:50] using shared wifi [09:50] Mage132692: how about the Linux logs? [09:50] where? which ones? [09:50] Mage132692: your systems logs... are you (really) on Ubuntu? [09:51] yes y [09:51] Mage132692: /var/log/syslog is a good candidate to look into [09:51] ty [09:51] Mage132692: journalctl -u NetworkManager [09:51] ty [09:51] thats more focused [09:51] thanks [09:52] Mage132692: anytime [09:52] <3 [09:52] senpai [09:52] Mage132692: I'm just a regular user [09:53] ty friend [10:03] whats the command to check network logs again? my wifi keeps crashing, i think im going to have to return this laptop... [10:04] Guest3320: journalctl -u NetworkManager [10:04] Guest3320: if you want to see it in real-time, open a shell and type: journalctl -f -u NetworkManager [10:05] Guest3320: do you have all the needed firmware packages and network drivers installed on the laptop? [10:07] yeah [10:08] it works for like 15 minutes, then disconnects [10:08] even after fully updating [10:09] Guest3320, iw dev wlan0 get power_save [10:10] is the device shutting down to save power ? [10:10] Command 'iw' not found, but can be installed with: [10:10] should i install it [10:10] it should be installed by default. is that a normal ubuntu install ? [10:11] lubuntu [10:11] command failed: No such device (-19) [10:11] well, how is your wlan device called then ? [10:11] my wifi disconnected during the os initial install [10:11] how do i check [10:12] iw dev [10:12] tat should list all wifi devices detected on yur machine [10:13] i think its this Interface wlo1 [10:14] okay, then use that in the command i gave above ... instead of wlan0 [10:14] power save on!!!! [10:14] there you go 🙂 [10:14] and why is my wifi chip not default wlan0 [10:15] how do i disable it [10:15] dunno, up to the vendor and the kernel [10:15] and it would siconnect during usage [10:15] disconnect [10:15] (the name that is) [10:15] why would powersave disconnect during wifi use [10:15] wouldnt it disconnect during idle [10:15] you can turn it off with: iw dev wlan0 set power_save=off [10:15] how do i disable my wifi powersave mode? [10:15] ty [10:16] well wlo1 ... [10:16] o god [10:16] it just pasted the entire help document [10:16] but i dont think the command ran right [10:17] not if it showed the help [10:17] yeah i run the powersave off command [10:17] and it just shows a long document [10:17] drop the equl sign [10:17] as if the syntax is wrong? [10:17] *equal [10:17] yeah [10:17] it does not need = [10:17] ok that worked [10:17] good [10:17] powersave is off now [10:17] ok, now we wait [10:18] thanks for that [10:18] i'd try a manual connect [10:18] what do u mean [10:18] (not sure if witing helps 🙂 ) [10:18] *waiting [10:18] manual connect to what [10:18] it just used to disconnect randomly [10:18] to your wlan [10:19] i am connected already [10:19] ah ! [10:19] k [10:19] i thought you were waiting for it to connect [10:19] do i neeed to restart for powersave change to take true effect [10:20] no, if the check returns "off" it is actually off [10:20] not sur if that persists across reboots though ... depends on the HW [10:20] you might need to set it every boot if it does not [10:21] o dang [10:21] ok [10:21] (perhaps the lubuntu network UI has a switch for that ?) [10:21] i could just make a system d service [10:22] or that, yeah [10:23] Guest3320, https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/315400 ... [10:23] seems there is a network manager config fiel you can put in place [10:24] *file [10:24] that should make it permanent [10:28] great, thats perfect, thank you [10:28] :) [10:29] it does not work for some reason. The value 2 is set in the file in my case but when i ran some command to see if wifi power manager is on, it did say so, even after multiple restarts. Are these values accurate? [10:29] how can we verify what 1,2,3,4, etc mean [10:29] default is 3 for on [10:30] i guess i just have to restart to find out [10:32] alkisg, while an existing firefox isntance is open, the new snap shouldn't be used. multiple verisons of a snap should be able to coexist side by side. [10:33] i.e. indocker terminology it should be if container is running doinger docker exec into existing container, else do docker run to create new container [10:58] Can I apply metric to connection to 60 instead of 50, so that OpenVPN connection can actually work when enabled? When I enable OpenVPN connection, LAN1 adapter has the same metric as OpenVPN client connection . [11:00] I changed metric to 60 in /etc/netplan/01-netcfg , but ' netplan apply ' and ' systemctl restart systemd-networkd ' did not change interface metric in route table.. [11:01] I suppose, same metric of 50 could be cause of the problem of not routing packet through openvpn client connection.. [11:01] May be I could have it applied for LAn connection at 60 , without reboot.. ? === amdj is now known as vampidj === pascalm1 is now known as pascalm === pascalm1 is now known as pascalm [12:28] yt-dlp --extract-audio --audio-format mp3 - Can you please help with the syntax of putting this command in alias so I can just write the command followed by the link? [12:30] yeah i use youtube-dl --extract-audio --audio-format mp3 [12:31] alias dl='yt-dlp --extract-audio --audio-format mp3' ; var=foo; dl "$var" ..... or something like that maybe? [12:34] brktoot: you could write a shell script and put it somewhere into your path [12:35] cbreak, I can't. I have zero knowledge on writing scripts [12:35] if you wanted an alias, it'd look like the first part [12:35] but that's bash syntax [12:35] so it'd only work if you use a bash shell [12:36] you could also write a shell function, that'd look like dl () { youtube-dl --extract-audio --audio-format mp3 "$@" } [12:42] re [12:43] then I guess I have to execute the command only when I am in the directory of where the script is? [12:44] cbreak, but the first part is it enough if add the link after that? alias dl='yt-dlp --extract-audio --audio-format mp3' .... = dl [12:45] yeah brktoot [12:45] where's the script located? (yt-dlp) ? [12:46] brktoot: no [12:46] nothing after that [12:46] once you have that alias, you can use it like a normal command [12:46] and you specify the link like with a normal command [12:47] no = [12:47] i think he just meant that it would yield dl working [12:48] it would, yes. [12:48] brktoot: if yt-dlp isnt in a $PATH, you could just give the alias the full path to it, then you can use it any directory [12:48] so would the function [12:49] Thats the best I could figure out - alias dl='yt-dlp --extract-audio --audio-format mp3' ; var=foo; dl "$var" [12:49] otherwise pasting the link after dl wotn work [12:49] brktoot: as I said, the stuff after ; isn't needed [12:50] cbreak, ok thanks will try now [12:50] but I usually prefer shell functions [12:50] like the one I gave above [12:50] cbreak, why [12:50] better syntax, more control [12:51] mhm [12:53] do i have to logout or reboot for the aliases to be updated? [12:53] because it seems to not working [12:54] Hi all [12:54] brktoot: [12:54] hey [12:54] no, just reload your shell [12:55] or manually `source .bashrc` or where ever you put it [12:55] how [12:55] or just write the code on the shell and try it out directly [12:55] brktoot: do you have a shell open? [12:55] terminal [12:56] type the following: alias x="echo foo" [12:56] just saved the file with the new alias [12:56] then press "enter" [12:56] then type x, and press enter again [12:56] that's how aliases work [12:56] you can try the same with your alias [12:57] once you're happy with the alias, and want to save it, write it into your shell's rc file [12:59] cbreak, thanks, but I prefer to use just the alias command. I will reboot so it can be updated and will try it [12:59] reboo [13:00] rebooting is pointless... [13:00] this isn't windows [13:01] cbreak, it works, thank you [13:04] hmm... did something in the most recent snap firefox update break japanese? [13:06] cbreak, i think latest FF improved spellcheck integration ... might be that not all languages aer 100% covered with that ... [13:06] *are [13:06] ... this firefox snap nonsense never stops annoying me :( [13:06] ogra: it seems there are no japanese fonts available [13:07] wonder if that's a problem in the snap, or something outside [13:07] cbreak, file a bug then ... and do snap revert firefox to go back to the former version until it is fixed [13:08] I'm not 100% sure at the moment if the problem's in the snap or outside... [13:10] it might be in one of the base packages firefox uses === hasley is now known as mahler [13:11] ogra: no, you were right, firefox 105.0.3-1 1943 latest/stable mozilla✓ <- broken [13:11] firefox 105.0.2-1 1918 latest/stable mozilla✓ <- works [13:11] ... [13:11] nevermind, it doesn't actually work :( [13:12] and I can't revert further back [13:13] no, you can only revert to what you have on disk [13:13] and by default only one copy is kept on desktop installs (you can increase that with a setting) [13:13] (but only for all snaps) [13:16] https://snapcraft.io/docs/keeping-snaps-up-to-date#heading--refresh-retain [13:18] . [13:19] ogra: I'm not sure rolling back would help much anyway, better if it's solved going forward [13:19] Hey folks, does anyone here feel confident in firewalls/iptables/etc? [13:19] I wouldn't be surprised if firefox depends on some other snaps, and those removed the fonts (like core20, or gnome-3-38-2004 , or similar) [13:19] how do I check if a kernal release has all it needs for the drivers of my sound card? === brktoot_ is now known as brkroot [13:20] brkroot: lshw shows your hardware, lshw -C multimedia shows sound cards and the like [13:20] cbreak, gnome-3-38-2004 ships some default fonts but integrates the system fonts too ... either way, file a bug to make sure it is known and gets fixed [13:21] interesting [13:21]