[01:37] <Liver_K> hey theres a bug on 22.04 LTS where on the login screen, if you press any of the arrow keys, it will then allow you to just move the cursor to anywhere on the screen and delete any of the text there by default, including the login message, tty #, and prompt. once you add or delete anything, it then freezes for about a minute and then redisplays the login screen with the same bug
[01:37] <Liver_K> i know somebodies gonna tell me to report this or something, but i just want to know for now if there is already a fix for this, or if it is already documented on launchpad
[01:37] <av2156> cool
[01:38] <av2156> thanks for letting us know.
[01:40] <Liver_K> so there isnt already a fix?
[01:40] <znf> we'll fix it ASAP 
[01:41] <Liver_K> woohoo!
[01:41] <arraybolt3> znf, av2156: I can't tell if you guys are trolling or serious...
[01:41] <Liver_K> thanks you guys for doing that
[01:41] <arraybolt3> I hope you're serious though, it sounds like a really bad bug.
[01:42] <Liver_K> it is pretty annoying
[01:42] <Liver_K> but only if you press the arrow keys, if you dont it just acts like normal
[01:42] <av2156> i literally am nobody, i messaged just so they know it is attended, i am aware of mods
[01:43] <znf> I'm sure it's a 10/10 scale
[01:43] <arraybolt3> Ah, np.
[01:44] <arraybolt3> Liver_K: I help develop Ubuntu and several flavors thereof (mainly Lubuntu). I can try to reproduce this bug and make a bug report if you'd like that.
[01:45] <arraybolt3> Also, Ubuntu doesn't mind duplicate bug reports the way other software projects do. Sometimes bugs that looks like dupes are actually different bugs, and having duplicate bug reports actually helps us see how severe a bug is.
[01:45] <av2156> what is the process if someone discovers a bug and devs plans to fix it ? is it publicly trackable ?
[01:45] <arraybolt3> av2156: Yes, it is.
[01:45] <av2156> how to learn about the process ?
[01:45] <arraybolt3> You can see how critical a bug has been judged to be, who's working on it, and an entire discussion related to it on Launchpad.
[01:45] <znf> arraybolt3, obvioulsy trolling...
[01:45] <av2156> launchpad? ok.
[01:46] <av2156> trolling ?
[01:46] <arraybolt3> av2156: launchpad.net, looks for the Ubuntu project and then you can search for packages in there.
[01:46] <arraybolt3> znf: I get that you were probably being funny (and it was kind of funny), but please don't do that in the future, since it might keep bugs from being reported or fixed (I think Liver_K may have taken you seriously).
[01:47] <av2156> though i am ot a subject matter expert but what package should it concern with ?
[01:47] <arraybolt3> av2156: *look, not looks...
[01:47] <arraybolt3> av2156: The bug Liver_K ran into? That's a good question, and one I'll have to do further research into.
[01:47] <arraybolt3> I would suspect the "login" package in the Ubuntu project, lemme try and pull up a link...
[01:47] <Liver_K> one min to read lal that (was just afk)
[01:48] <znf> there are important bugs, and there is a... cosmetic bug that actually sounds like a feature of the tty 
[01:48] <arraybolt3> av2156: This is the package I'd report it against: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shadow
[01:48] <arraybolt3> znf: Fair enough.
[01:48] <av2156> alright
[01:49] <znf> it also may be dependant on the keyboard layout of the user
[01:49] <arraybolt3> av2156: BTW, don't just use the search box on Launchpad's home page, it doesn't work like you'd expect. I learned this the hard way. Start from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu, then use the search box there.
[01:49] <av2156> okie dokie
[01:49] <arraybolt3> Launchpad is nice to use once you figure it out, but figuring it out can be kind of like eating lobster for the first time.
[01:50] <av2156> tough task for who hv never had a lobster
[01:52] <Liver_K> i have never had a lobster or used launchpad :P
[01:53] <Liver_K> and no its not part of the tty, it never did that before, and even if it was a feature (editing whatever is in the buffer), it would still be a bug because it freezes once you edit anything and then redisplays it
[01:54] <Liver_K> (and yes, i did take you seriously znf)
[01:54] <Liver_K> my mistake
[01:56] <Liver_K> arraybolt3: yes i would appreaciate if you made a report for me, i am using vanilla ubuntu server im pretty sure, downloaded straight from https://ubuntu.com/download/server
[01:56] <arraybolt3> Liver_K: Fantastic, I'll see if I can work on that when I get the chance.
[01:57] <Liver_K> yeah tell me if you can reproduce the problem on whatever setup you have, it might be something specific to mine that is broken
[01:57] <Liver_K> it is not a fresh install
[01:57] <arraybolt3> Liver_K: Did you upgrade it from an earlier release by any chance?
[01:57] <Liver_K> yes i upgraded from 20.04.3
[01:57] <Liver_K> pretty recently
[01:57] <Liver_K> but there have been multiple kernel updates since i upgraded so not too recently
[01:58] <arraybolt3> OK, if I can't reproduce it in a clean install of 22.04 I'll try installing 20.04 and then upgrading.
[02:00] <Liver_K> also the bug might have been there for a while without me noticing it (i dont use arrow keys that often when on the login screen believe it or not), so it could be related to me removing cloud-init also
[02:01] <Liver_K> because that was creating issues too before i got rid of it
[05:31] <alkisg> Liver_K: I see it in a clean 22.04 Ubuntu MATE installation; ctrl+alt+f2, move arrow up, then able to delete anything
[05:32] <alkisg> While in 18.04, the up arrow just writes codes like ^[[A to the login prompt
[05:32] <arraybolt3[m]> alkisg: Didn't think to reproduce it on my own machine, but you're right. Just tried it on Kubuntu (Kubuntu Focus Suite) and got the same thing.
[05:33] <arraybolt3[m]> alkisg: Neither one of our messages are making it to IRC btw 🙃
[05:33] <alkisg> #$(*&# stupid bridges :D
[05:34] <arraybolt3[m]> alkisg: Oh hey here they come.
[05:34] <arraybolt3[m]> Also Liver_K left...
[05:57] <arraybolt3[m]> alkisg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shadow/+bug/1992731
[05:57] -ubottu:#ubuntu-server- Launchpad bug 1992731 in shadow (Ubuntu) "The cursor can be freely moved around and used to erase characters on the TTY while at the login prompt" [Undecided, New]
[05:58] <arraybolt3[m]> Just filed it.
[05:58] <alkisg> Great; let me see...
[06:12] <alkisg> Reproduced in 20.04; NOT in 18.04; I think the problem is in agetty; added util-linux to affected packages
[22:00] <av2156> hello
[23:40] <teward> *puts kanashiro[m] in the dust bin*
[23:41] <teward> the nginx issue you closed as a conf issue isn't actually a conf issue