[14:18] <Mooncairn> I'm about ready to declare digital bankruptcy and nuke my desktop environmet and/or my user account and start over.
[14:19] <Mooncairn> I'm looking for a replacement desktop environment. KDE is just too damn buggy.
[14:40] <cmaloney> Ugh. Sorry to read that.
[14:40] <cmaloney> https://assets.octodon.social/cache/media_attachments/files/109/161/090/598/690/839/original/0b81b6fe21f7b9c2.jpg
[15:18] <jrwren> linux is meant for the server. ;)
[15:48] <cmaloney> and the desktop. :)
[15:53] <ben> howdy michiganders
[16:16] <cmaloney> howdy
[17:09] <jrwren> ever try pop_os?
[17:11] <cmaloney> I have not
[17:36] <jrwren> It is like ubuntu, only good. ;) no snaps, nicer UX IMO. Still based on Ubuntu.
[17:39] <cmaloney> I've heard good things about PPO
[17:39] <cmaloney> POP
[17:39] <cmaloney> Honestly the "no snaps" is awesome
[17:39] <cmaloney> I'm getting less and less impressed with Snaps.
[17:40] <jrwren> same here, they use more disk space, but I guess everyone has lots of that these days
[17:41] <jrwren> my fav... the first time I ran `snap list --all` and saw the garbage not collected. WTF?!?!
[17:44] <cmaloney> eyeroll
[18:12] <jrwren> holy crap nextdns looks good. I might get rid of pihole, it looks that good. I need to read their privacy policy
[18:18] <cmaloney> wow. That good, huh?
[18:29] <jrwren> oh i see, limited to 300k DNS queries in a month.
[18:29] <jrwren> i do 80k in a day. LMAO.
[18:30] <Mooncairn> Any thoughts about NixOS?
[18:32] <jrwren> its awesome. I'm just too lazy to switch.
[18:33] <jrwren> i use nixpkg to run things in ubuntu that are snap only, like lxd
[18:34] <Mooncairn> I'm thinking of trying other distros if I'm going to redo my DE anyway.
[18:35] <Mooncairn> I'll probably get another SSD soon and I can use that while I keep my existing disks as-is for a while in case I want to go back.
[18:35] <jrwren> i feel like nix is the latest tinker linux version like arch and gentoo before it ;)
[18:37] <Mooncairn> Does NixOS require that packages be built from source? If so, I'm out. I did Gentoo years ago and, while fun at the time, I don't want to spend a couple of days waiting for a mass software upgrade.
[18:43] <jrwren> i don't think so, no.
[18:43] <jrwren> but the nix files specify how to buid.
[19:28] <ben> i ran pop_os briefly a couple years ago
[19:31] <ben> i think i removed snap from all my ubuntu VMs
[19:31] <ben> one of the reasons i'm tending towards debian nowadays
[19:31] <ben> and fricken netplan
[21:16] <jrwren> i want everything systemd :)