[06:38] <lordievader> Good morning 
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> !test
[18:55] <rs2009> !test
[19:29] <cry0xen> guiver c simple comment killed my lxqt/lubuntu interest - https://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/comments/xr8bvi/im_running_vanilla_lubuntu_20045_on_an_ancient/iqg7nxu/
[19:30] <daftykins> seems fair comment to me, if it's a chore to run Lubuntu already - stop using lemons
[19:31] <cry0xen> unless the whole environment uses/made from the same toolkit no matter how hard i try is it even possible to run a leaner day to day pc lightweight?
[19:31] <daftykins> no mention of specs, tough to comment
[19:32] <daftykins> the days when Linux polished up old systems and made them viable again are long gone to my mind
[19:32] <arraybolt3> cry0xen: That's just how computers work. It will be the same on Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Windows, etc.
[19:33] <arraybolt3> cry0xen: If you use lots of GNOME apps, Xubuntu might work better for you, if you use Qt apps, Lubuntu is the way. If you use lots of both, then it's probably up to you, I would suspect Lubuntu to be lighter, but I could be wrong.
[19:34] <cry0xen> arraybolt3: exactly and both qt and gtk are important 
[19:35] <cry0xen> in regards to application
[19:35] <daftykins> not really both at once
[19:35] <daftykins> https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/18/ubuntu_remixes/
[19:35] <cry0xen> and gtk is moving from 2 then 3 may be 4 after 5 what will happen to the apps
[19:35] <arraybolt3> Either one should be waaaay lighter than Ubuntu, Ubuntu Budgie, or even Kubuntu.
[19:36] <cry0xen> lxde is kinda dead
[19:37] <cry0xen> i am using xubuntu and xubuntu using vlc(qt i think) gimp (gtk) libreoffice (somethiing else i dunno) thats 3 different system
[19:38] <arraybolt3> LibreOffice can integrate with either Qt or GTK.
[19:38] <cry0xen> u understand what i meant
[19:39] <cry0xen> all the hypes about DE and its hard to find a polished video player
[19:39] <cry0xen> vlc had network issue and ive gone through everyone of them from arch manual
[19:40] <daftykins> if your hardware is so bad, likely it's hardware decode support that will be making playback a sub-optimal experience
[19:40] <daftykins> or rather the LACK of hardware decode support
[19:44] <cry0xen> its an answer from an angle. ive gone through amd k6 2/3 i dunno then celeron then pentium then dual core, then core 2 duo and i am stuck at core 2 quad cause it runs. i slapped an ssd and ironwolf nas with antec it still runs smooth as butter. office provide me with a mac and i dont play games. whats with the hardware race?
[19:45] <cry0xen> anyway its just some things that was going through my mind
[19:45] <daftykins> greed probably, pop in a capable graphics card with video decode support though and there'd be a lot to gain, depends what you do
[19:47] <cry0xen> daftykins as for wheather my pc could run the hevc 265 2gigs streams or not ... potplayer mpc-hc* kmplayer and vlc on windows ran smooth as butter.
[19:47] <cry0xen> *12 gigs 
[19:48] <daftykins> they would not have magically enabled you to do anything other than software decode depending on what graphics card you have
[19:48] <daftykins> more often than not our old friend Ms. Configuration could have a part to play
[19:49] <cry0xen> i am new to this so if you can help me or point me toward right direction i am all ears
[19:51] <daftykins> sorry, i don't agree with your decisions so i don't wish to enable them
[19:55] <cry0xen> @arraybolt3[m]: is there any website that list qt, gtk apps separately?
[19:58] <arraybolt3[m]> cry0xen: Not that I
[19:58] <arraybolt3[m]> I'm aware of.
[20:00] <daftykins> i mean if you install via terminal you see what junk a program wants to pull in, then you can bail if necessary
[20:02] <cry0xen> i think i found one for qt apps - https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/List_of_Qt_Applications
[20:02] <daftykins> or just look at the dependencies of a package
[20:03] <cry0xen> yeah i understand that. thats what i did past few days
[20:23] <JanC> with APT, Synaptic, etc. you can search for dependencies...