[00:49] <brkroot> how to wrap this  's/- text text-//;' *  so I can rename it/ remove it. because of the - sign and the spaces It wont happen
[00:50] <arraybolt3> brkroot: Is this a file name or a sed command?
[00:50] <arraybolt3> Oh wait, I think I get it.
[00:50] <brkroot> filename
[00:50] <arraybolt3> ?! Yikes... I think you need some backslashes to escape all of the mess in that.
[00:50] <arraybolt3> Lemme try real quick.
[00:51] <brkroot> I tried any combinations with no success
[00:52] <brkroot> rename 's/\s/extra.test*//;' *
[00:53] <arraybolt3> brkroot: rmdir ./'- text text-'
[00:53] <arraybolt3> (The ./ at the start made it work.)
[00:53] <arraybolt3> That's for doing it in Bash.
[00:53] <brkroot> ill try it in a filename
[01:03] <brkroot> arraybolt3, it is a sed command s/-text text -//;' *   .....I need to remove everything between /..// It is a part from a filename.
[01:04] <funkyflashfive[m> Hi all, I've just upgraded my install of Ubuntu Studio from 20.04 to 22.04.1 and hit a problem. I've been using the password manager in Chromium to save credentials for the last decade without trouble, including migrating to new machines, but now the password manager is empty and Chromium no longer prompts for gnome keyring unlock at startup. Is there a way to restore them from old config backup, or extract the data?
[01:14] <pycurious> Package libnvidia-cfg1-515 is kept back because a related package is kept back or due to local apt_preferences(5). - how do i fix this?
[01:15] <enigma9o7> maybe it's not even broken?  what makes you think it is?
[01:15] <sarnold> maybe an apt install of that specific package will suggest the problem
[01:16] <pycurious> https://dpaste.org/d3g5Q - this is what apt outputs
[01:17] <pycurious> so seems like I already have that package installed at exactly that version number!
[01:19] <sarnold> $ dpkg --compare-versions 515.76-0lambda0~20.04.1 lt  515.76-0ubuntu0.20.04.1 && echo ubuntu is newer || echo lambda is newer
[01:19] <sarnold> ubuntu is newer
[01:19] <sarnold> my guess is you've got repository pinning in place
[01:19] <sarnold> apt policy libnvidia-cfg1-515
[01:26] <NiziU> lol
[01:39] <pycurious> sarnold: thanks! https://dpaste.org/sKbvZ - any ideas how to do this correctly? It looks like I always get these warnings from apt upgrade in /var/log/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrades.log
[01:40] <pycurious> sarnold: that command gives "ubuntu is newer"
[01:42] <sarnold> pycurious: heh, sorry, that command will give the same results everywhere; I was just checking the version numbers from the lambda repo against the ubuntu repos
[01:43] <sarnold> pycurious: I don't know what lambda offers that ubuntu doesn't; if you're otherwise happy with lambda, just leave it alone, I guess
[01:43] <sarnold> pycurious: if you don't know what lambda is doing for you and why, maybe disable that repo, replace all the packages they provided with the original ubuntu ones, and then find out? :) heh
[01:43] <pycurious> sarnold: lambda was giving better nvidia/gpu support than ubuntu for multi-gpu nvidia machines so far - not sure if ubuntu has fixed that - and works out of the box.
[01:44] <sarnold> hmm, me neither, I can't recall seeing any bugs about that
[01:44] <pycurious> the only problem is - I'm trying to remove this warning - everytime i login -> 21 updates could not be installed automatically.
[01:44] <sarnold> it'll probably go away when lambda releases new versions
[01:45] <pycurious> sarnold: thanks
[01:51] <pycurious> sarnold: are you using nvidia cards by any chance? 20 or 22?
[01:51] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia
[01:51] <sarnold> pycurious: sorry, no nvidia here
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> ubuntus nvidia drivers should now be synced with the ubuntu drivers ppa too
[02:25] <MrMobius> why does setting a color in LS_COLORS show the same color whether it's the standard or light version of the color?
[02:26] <MrMobius> for example setting a color to 33 for orange shows the same yellow as setting it to 93 for yellow
[02:27] <ArtfulDodger> Hi! Does a wildcard SSL certificate *.example.com also work for *.*.example.com?
[02:30] <user____> Hello
[02:31] <carnophage2> hi
[03:01] <jrenken> ArtfulDodger: No, unfortunately it does not. You can get a separate wildcard certificate for *.something.example.com, though.
[03:58] <Jong> Hello.  When I press the up arrow key to show previous commands in the terminal, sometimes there's a glitch where some characters will be stuck. It's hard to explain what I'm talking about. But I'll press up the arrow and the first few characters of the subsequent command still show with the command I moved to appearing right after.
[03:58] <Jong> Anyone know how to fix this?
[04:01] <absentia> :01:47        absentia | second wave of monkeypox is incoming
[04:01] <absentia> :01:53        absentia | why isn't the government mandating vaccination
[04:01] <absentia> :01:58        absentia | why isn't the government regulating gay sex
[04:01] <absentia> :02:08        absentia | why are children catching monkeypox???
[04:01] <absentia> :02:35        absentia | https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-health-and-wellness/monkeypox-driven-overwhelmingly-sex-men-major-study-finds-rcna39564
[04:01] <absentia> :04:13          %based | what’s the plan to regulate gay sex?
[04:31] <skraito> this my porn el https://github.com/dodocrypto close #0dev and ban skraito nick until you say so by one of ircop i won't stop
[04:31] <skraito> https://github.com/dodocrypto
[04:32] <skraito> https://github.com/dodocrypto
[06:27] <hays> is there an archive that goes older than trusty?
[06:30] <Bashing-om> hays: Depends on what you are looking for. See: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ .
[07:47] <unimatrix9> hello there
[07:47] <unimatrix9> does anyone know what happened to the checkbox-ng package ?
[08:18] <xu-irc24w> Hello, anyone here intered to help me figure out potencial security leak on my PC?
[08:18] <murmel> unimatrix9: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=926953
[08:18] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Debian bug 926953 in ftp.debian.org "RM: checkbox-ng -- ROM; no longer maintained as a deb" [Normal, Open]
[08:19] <xu-irc24w> How come I have firefox 106 when it has not been released yet?
[08:19] <xu-irc24w> firefox/jammy,now 106.0+build1-0ubuntu0.22.04.1~mt1 amd64 [installed]
[08:19] <unimatrix9> was checkbox-ng replaced with something else ?
[08:20] <murmel> xu-irc24w: you have the ppa active
[08:20] <ravage> xu-irc24w: you use an external package source that probably provides a beta version
[08:20] <murmel> unimatrix9: it's being developed only as a snap
[08:21] <xu-irc24w> I switched to the deb version of firefox after purging snap
[08:21] <murmel> xu-irc24w: yes, and the mozilla team ppa pushes beta versions
[08:21] <xu-irc24w> Aha, thanks
[08:21] <unimatrix9> because you are beta testing ? : https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/106.0beta/releasenotes/
[08:22] <unimatrix9> ah already answered ;)
[08:22] <murmel> xu-irc24w: just be aware that that ppa is not directly from mozilla, and can be abandoned whenever they feel like
[08:22] <ogra> unimatrix9, i guess -ng was merged into the normal checkbox snap (not 100% sure though)
[08:25] <unimatrix9> ok
[08:41] <swai> hello there
[08:50] <swai> hello there
[08:51] <murmel> hi swai
[08:52] <swai> hope u good
[08:52] <money> eh
[08:52] <money> idk
[08:52] <swai> pls how do i swipe and reply one's message
[08:53] <murmel> !discussion
[08:54] <murmel> !offtopic
[09:23] <benishor> is there a channel for ubuntu 22.10?
[09:26] <Unit193> benishor: #ubuntu-next
[10:13] <ArtfulDodger> Thank you jrenken!
[10:14] <ArtfulDodger> (I'm a bit late in my answer :)
[10:48] <swai> who is there
[10:49]  * irc_standardnick raises hand
[10:50] <swai> hello there
[10:56] <Kangarooo> where to report in launchpad bug about ubuntu irc channels?
[10:58] <Habbie> Kangarooo, what's the bug?
[10:59] <Kangarooo> i want to write it in launchpad also but here it is- can you make freenode channel topic to be info to join correct server since that freenode is not anymore used? with url irc://irc.libera.chat:6667/#ubuntu ? /server irc.libera.chat /join #ubuntu ?
[11:00] <Kangarooo> irc://irc.libera.chat/#ubuntu or dos this work also without port?
[11:03] <Kangarooo> i cant find where can post launchpad bug for irc channels
[11:04] <Kangarooo> @Drone
[11:04] <ravage> freenode is dead and i dont think anyone has still access to change anything there
[11:05] <ravage> the official channel is here. if you see any official page that still leads to freenode please report it
[11:12] <ogra> Kangarooo, freenode has explicitly blocked access for ubuntu ops to access channel topics, to prevent telling people about the new place (channel operators were explicitly banned when they just mentioned the name libera in messages)
[11:12] <ogra> Kangarooo, so there is no chance to get this sorted unless someone from freenode staff does it ... but i guess they'd only do it for $$$
[11:12] <bougyman> freenode is still a thing?
[11:13] <ogra> probably 🙂
[11:13]  * ogra hasnt looked back ... not sure what happened after we moved
[11:13] <bougyman> same
[11:13] <ogra> i got banned (like many others) for telling two poeple that we moved to libera
[11:37] <moha> Is it possible to have a LVM partition  on another server, and hen mount it over network in the current server?
[11:46] <swai>  hi murmel
[12:01] <goddard> how can i disable libimobiledevice from interfering with my qemu/kvm usb redirection?
[12:08] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:10] <luna> hey
[12:18] <bignose> Hello. I recently installed with the server iso and when it sets up the disk with LVM it never uses 100% of the space. I'm fine with that. I can extend it no problem. I'm more curious about why this choice was made and where it's documented?
[12:31] <faLUKE> hello. Is there a way to record the video stream from https://www.nporadio4.nl/live with some command line or program?
[12:48] <ogra> bignose, perhaps try #ubuntu-server ? (they surely know more about the server installer)
[12:49] <bignose> I think I found the answer. Basically because it gives head room and allows snapshots. It's a logical (I'm hilarous) choice ;)
[12:57] <SteelRose> Hi! Stupid question: do I need to restart logrotate if I add a new config file under /etc/logrotate.d ?  Thanks!
[12:59] <SteelRose> back in the day, logrotate was controlled by crond but it now installs its own logrotate.service file... hence my question
[13:21] <Habbie> bougyman, ogra, the topic for #ubuntu on freenode currently says "ⓘ Ubuntu Community Channel. -- Mostly idle, please join #linux"
[13:31] <luna> anywhere to see how long a release is ESM supported with Ubuntu Pro?
[13:34] <luna> jbicha answered my question in #ubuntu-desktop
[13:38] <luna> thanks for the answers
[13:51] <ogra> Habbie, well, could be worse ...
[13:51] <Habbie> yes
[14:50] <jongsta> is there a way to make it so that if a disk becomes unmountable that the system doesn't hang on boot? an option for /etc/fstab?
[14:54] <ravage> jongsta, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/53456/what-is-the-difference-between-nobootwait-and-nofail-in-fstab
[14:58] <jongsta> ravage: nobootwait is no longer a valid option in Ubuntu 16.04 (as of 2016-07-10 testing Mythbuntu install/live-DVD). –
[14:58] <jongsta> Kingsley
[14:58] <jongsta>  Jul 12, 2016 at 2:42
[15:10] <tomreyn> +b $a:absentia
[15:12] <tomreyn> oops
[15:17]  * axis9 sets mode: +b $a:beeria
[15:24] <Enissay> I just noticed all files in my ntfs hdd are owned by root. How can I set up owner to current at mount ?
[15:24] <Enissay> Currently this is my fstab `/dev/disk/by-uuid/DC7E0D677E0 /mnt/win10 auto nosuid,nodev,nofail 0 0`
[15:28] <tomreyn> Enissay: you can set a specific owner using uid=calue mount option
[15:29] <tomreyn> Enissay: you can set a specific owner using uid=value mount option
[15:29] <tomreyn> see mount(8) for the ntfs mount options
[15:36] <jhutchins> Might also want to have a look at the samba docs.
[15:37] <jhutchins> Enissay: Who should the files belong to?
[15:39] <Enissay> I did add `uid=1000` but still files belong to root !
[15:39] <Enissay> after umoumt/mount
[15:40] <Enissay> jhutchins: myself, with id 1000
[15:53] <jhutchins> What's the local ownership on the ntfs system?
[16:02] <goddard> i tried this and it isn't working https://askubuntu.com/questions/525088/how-to-delete-broken-packages-in-ubuntu
[16:02] <goddard> any other ideas?
[16:02] <goddard> sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq package_name
[16:02] <goddard> package pre-removal script subprocess returned error exit status 127
[16:04] <goddard> any more aggressive option?
[16:04] <magikman> Hi folks! I have an application that is triggering "<program>[pid] type=142[01] msg=audit(<timestamp>) subj_apparmor=unconfined" message millions on times. I've attempted to define a profile for it but haven't been able to stop the messages. They're filling my root fs and causing issues.
[16:05] <magikman> Anyone else encountered this issue?
[16:12] <tomreyn> goddard: maybe you need the more correct rather than the more aggressive options. but i'd start with describing the problem, show what it looks like in terms of apt output(s)
[16:17] <tomreyn> magikman: please don't cross-post. i don't know the answer to your question, but i'd look into alternatives to this application, and using log filtering to prevent it from filling your logs. which other issues is this causing?
[16:20] <swai> who is on here
[16:22] <tomreyn> swai: if you have an ubuntu support question, please ask.
[16:44] <arthur> hi Drone
[16:45] <arthur> hi
[16:45] <jilocasin> afternoon everyone
[16:45] <arthur> how are you
[16:46] <arthur> how are you jilocasin
[16:46] <arthur> hi Drone
[16:47] <jilocasin> Can anyone point me in the direction of some good docs on how to keep apt from upgrading a package to the next major version while still autoupdating minor versions?  pg15 has just been released and apt-get upgrade will automaticaly upgrade it to pg15.   I need to stay at 14, but still be able to upgrade to newer 14.x version.  thanks.
[16:49] <tomreyn> jilocasin: on a wild, wild guess, i'm assuming you may be referring to postgresql, and further to the postgresql upstream apt repository at apt.postgresql.org. is that so?
[16:49] <jilocasin> tomreyn: yes pg == postgresql
[16:50] <jilocasin> tomreyn: I would have to check the sources.list.d but I believe so.
[16:50] <tomreyn> https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/ states "# If you want a specific version, use 'postgresql-12' or similar instead of 'postgresql'"
[16:51] <jilocasin> tomreyn: when installing, yes.  I've already done that, thanks.  The issue is that I *already* have pg14 installed.  Running apt-get upgrade doesn't give me the next available minor version of 14, it instead installs 15. :/
[16:52] <tomreyn> and package postgresql-14 is installed?
[16:52] <jilocasin> tomreyn: which means. when I figure this out for this box that fortunately isn't in production yet, it'll automatically upgrade dozens of *production* boxes to 15 causing untold havok.
[16:52] <jilocasin> tomreyn: yep.
[16:53] <tomreyn> can you show     apt list --installed postgres* | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:54] <magik> tomreyn I appreciate you responding! My apologies on the cross-post, haven't IRC'd in years...didn't realize that was frowned upon. I've created an syslog rule to drop those logs in the abyss, just wanted to ping the channel and see if anyone else had encountered it.
[16:54] <jilocasin> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/qnsz
[16:55] <magik> this isn't doesn't happen with bionic, fwiw.
[16:55] <Oski146> hello i need a tip on how to use ubuntu on raspberry its slo af
[16:56] <tomreyn> jilocasin: well, you also have "postgresql" installed
[16:57] <jilocasin> tomreyn: not manually.
[16:58] <tomreyn> jilocasin: hmm, and postgresql-15 wasn't installed manually either, i assume?
[16:58] <tomreyn> jilocasin: then i guess all you can do is use apt pinning
[16:59] <tomreyn> !pinning
[16:59] <jilocasin> tomreyn: nope, just ran apt-get upgrade and the messages that scrolled by stated that postgresql-15 was being installed.
[17:00] <jilocasin> tomreyn:  are you saing I Need to go to every box, check for the 'postgresql' meta package, delete it (hopefully without also delting pg14), delete pg15 where ever it was installed automatically, and then *pin* it at 14.x?
[17:02] <tomreyn> jilocasin: i don't know whether managing your boxes involves going to each of them, but if so, probably. keep in mind you're using a third party repository. those can always come with their own mechanisms and support policies.
[17:02] <jilocasin> tomreyn: thanks for the link and the info.
[17:02] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[17:04] <tomreyn> Oski146: a faster storage may help there. but the hardware version certainly makes a lot of difference, too.
[17:07] <Enissay> jhutchins: what do you mean local ownership ? files show up as root:root
[17:18] <jhutchins> Enissay: On the machine where the storage is, before the share.
[17:20] <jhutchins> Enissay: It sounds like you have a single user system - not multiple users, right?
[17:35] <realivanjx> The repository 'https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/lutris-team/lutris/ubuntu jammy Release' no longer has a Release file. anyone else having same issue with lutris?
[17:35] <ogra> realivanjx, ask the PPA owners, we can not support PPAs here
[17:36] <ogra> (but it is likely that they simply did not build their packages for the release you are on, in that case PPAs usualy do not generate a Release file)
[18:19] <goddard> how can i disable libimobiledevice from interfering with my qemu/kvm usb redirection?
[18:19] <goddard> ive tried everything
[18:19] <goddard> if i uninstall it then it takes my whole desktop with it
[18:40] <axis9> du bunt u
[18:40] <tomreyn> axis9: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[18:41]  * axis9 figured it already (@NOW())
[18:42] <tomreyn> axis9: i'm not sure what you mean, can you rephrase?
[18:42] <axis9> i figure my qiestion out
[18:42] <axis9> i have a problem
[18:42] <axis9> i solved i
[18:42] <axis9> t
[18:43] <tomreyn> very well. :)
[18:46] <Guest41> Hi, I have a computer that is offline. What determines the frequency that its system clock runs at? It has a hardware clock which roughly matches real time, but currently the system clock is running at almost double normal speed
[18:47] <ravage> Guest41, https://getdevised.com/what-is-rtc-crystal-on-motherboard-and-how-to-fix-it/
[18:49] <ravage> so damaged hardware or faulty BIOS. try an update
[18:49] <Guest41> ravage thanks, but as I said the hardware clock (from the RTC crystal) is running at essentially the right speed but the system clock - which is decoupled from the hwclock after booting is running at double the speed
[18:49] <Habbie> oh, it's offline but not off?
[18:50] <Guest41> correct, so I cant use ntp to correct drift in the system clock
[18:51] <ravage> There is a clock parameter for the kernel
[18:51] <ravage> It can use different sources and so on
[18:51] <ravage> Maybe check the documentation about it
[18:52] <Guest41> If I sit on the machine and run `sudo watch -n 1 hwclock` I can see both the system clock and the hardware clock and the system clock is increasing about twice as fast as the hardware clock
[18:52] <ravage> clock=tsc for example
[18:53] <oerheks> ravage, the clock running faster, could that be due to overclocking ?
[18:53] <Guest41> interesting, perhaps I can tie the (system) clock to the hwclock
[18:53] <oerheks> i never seen this issue of Guest41
[18:54] <ravage> oerheks, possible but then again that is a hardware issue and should not happen :)
[18:54] <Guest41> oerheks  don't think the machine is being overclocked
[18:54] <Guest41> is clock=tsc something that is set in grub?
[18:54] <ravage> !kernelparam
[18:55] <ravage> Guest41, https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v5.16/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.html
[18:56] <ravage> i guess 5.15 would be ideal but they dont change much :)
[18:56] <Guest41> I had a look at some of the time parameters using `adjtimex` and think I can speedup / slow down the ticks of the system clock to match the hwclock via `adjtimex --adjust` but it didn't work because this wanted to reduce from 10000 ticks / second to ~3000 and adjtimex only likes shifting by ~1%
[18:57] <ravage> i would still look for a bios update
[18:58] <Guest41> ok, the only thing that I know that was changed in this machine about the time that this started was someone turned off acpi. Could that be related? I guess it could have been that clock=acpi_pm
[19:00] <ravage> possible. which version of Ubuntu are we talking about?
[19:00] <Gendibal> hey
[19:01] <Guest41> ravage 18.04(.3?)
[19:01] <ravage> at least nothing ancient (yet)
[19:01] <ravage> check if you find any BIOS update and try to boot a live ISO of the latest LTS if your can
[19:02] <ravage> i hope the CPU is 64bit
[19:02] <ravage> see if you can reproduce it there
[19:03] <ravage> if you need to stay on 18.04 you can also test a live version of that of course
[19:03] <Guest41> ravage ok, thanks for the suggestions
[19:03] <Guest41> yeah I'm pretty sure its 64 bit and at least its still in LTS
[19:04] <Guest41> but this was such a strange thing to debug - I'm lucky I just sat watching the machine a saw the clock spinning faster than my watch
[19:05] <Guest41> unfortunately so many tools rely on the system clock for their frame of reference, so cant detect any issues in there
[19:18] <cry0xen> up until 3 days ago i used to run a usb dual band wifi receiver and then suddenly it was not working. however the bluetooth attached with the device is still working. only my wifi receiver is dead - i find it hard to believe. so i did lsusb and got this
[19:18] <cry0xen> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:c820 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. 802.11ac NIC
[19:18] <Habbie> bougyman, ogra, i accidentally stayed connected, "mostly idle" was not a joke!
[19:18] <cry0xen> device in question - https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Adapter-Wireless-External-Receiver/dp/B07YDFZWT8
[19:20] <cry0xen> i forgot how activate the driver (as manufacturer didnt provide driver) all i remember i used a bash script
[19:21] <cry0xen> oh yeah its realtek RTL8821CU i think
[19:22] <Assid> heya.. so i had to reinstall redis.. and for that.. i unisntalled with --purge and then deleted the /var/lib/redis and /etc/redis .. however.. when i install redis again the /etc/redis folder isnt recreated
[19:22] <Assid> any suggestions what to do here
[19:24] <ravage> https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/amd64/redis-server/filelist
[19:24] <ravage> if you purge that package and reinstall it that includes the file /etc/redis/redis.conf
[19:25] <Assid> it shoudl have.. but it doesnt re-create
[19:25] <oerheks> Assid, did you reboot after removal?
[19:25] <Assid> you need to reboot on linux ?
[19:26] <Assid> i dont think thats mandatory
[19:26] <oerheks> as this is a service, i would. clean memory.
[19:47] <ioria> Assid, have you tried sudo apt  install --reinstall -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confask,confnew,confmiss" redis-server  ?
[19:48] <Assid> nope thats what i didnt know
[19:58] <jhutchins> NTP can do off-line drift correction.
[20:01] <deodes777> hi all, i add to visudo "user ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: sudo /usr/bin/apt-get --only-upgrade install google-chrome-stable -y", on cron for user add "0 0 6 * * ? sudo /usr/bin/apt-get --only-upgrade install google-chrome-stable -y" its will be work?
[20:06] <sarnold> deodes777: it might be easier to configure unattended-upgrades for this; I don't know for sure if it can handle specific packages like this, but it already installs security updates every day..
[20:09] <deodes777> @sarnold did I write correctly?
[20:10] <sarnold> deodes777: there's no reason to use sudo here, so I don't understand that at all :)
[20:10] <sarnold> deodes777: maybe use /etc/cron.daily/ instead?
[20:11] <deodes777> when the user wants to update the program he is asked for a password, the user is not an administrator
[20:13] <ravage> You always want to update your browser
[20:13] <jhutchins> Otherwise the other kids will have faster quarter mile times.
[20:14] <deodes777> i always need updated browser
[20:16] <deodes777> google chrome not install updates auto, need password admin user
[20:18] <sarnold> deodes777: if you can't configure unattended-upgrades to do it, just use the *systems* cron to install the update
[20:18] <Enissay> jhutchins: Yes, single user system
[20:21] <deodes777> @sarnold "<sarnold> deodes777: if you can't configure unattended-upgrades to do it, just use the *systems* cron to install the update"
[20:25] <jhutchins> Enissay: I ended up making everything owned by root but RWX for all for a small multi-user network.
[20:25] <deodes777> i add " "Google LLC:stable";" to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades it will be work?
[20:26] <jhutchins> deodes777: Try it and see.
[20:26] <deodes777> ok
[20:26] <deodes777> thanks
[20:28] <oerheks> No. https://askubuntu.com/a/1211930
[20:28] <oerheks> "origin=Google LLC,codename=stable";
[20:42] <Enissay> jhutchins: Actually, I couldn't care less who owns those files. It is just that SMPlayer is unable to read videos from that ntfs drive with root:root... It says Permission denied
[20:45] <wpcarro> is the ubuntu-flavored linux kernel available for download? i'm not on a ubuntu host; i just want the package...
[20:45] <oerheks> wpcarro, sure, on launchpad
[20:45] <arraybolt3> wpcarro: I mean, I guess you *could* do that, but mixing distros can go poorly. Maybe build the Ubuntu kernel from source?
[20:45] <oerheks> or, any mirror after a deep search
[20:46] <wpcarro> arraybolt3: i'd like to build from source, but idk where the source is
[20:46] <wpcarro> i'm an ubuntu noob
[20:46] <oerheks> ubuntu + kernel + source
[20:46] <oerheks> ...
[20:47]  * wpcarro confused
[20:47] <arraybolt3> wpcarro: git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-<release codename>.git
[20:47] <oerheks> yes, you will be more confused if you want to use that kernel in an other distro
[20:47] <arraybolt3> Replacing <release codename> with Jammy for Ubuntu 22.04's kernel, or Focal for Ubuntu 20.04's kernel.
[20:48] <wpcarro> oerheks: lol that's what i'm trying to do
[20:48] <wpcarro> ty arraybolt3
[20:49] <arraybolt3> wpcarro: If you don't know what you're doing, this might not be the best way to learn. Building software from source is easy once you're used to it, but very tricky to begin with. And the kernel is a somewhat ambitious project to try and compile.
[20:50] <wpcarro> yeah i'm a bit intimidated...
[20:50] <wpcarro> https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Linux_kernel - gonna see how far this guide gets me
[20:51] <oerheks> *hint* seek support in your distro channel
[20:52] <sarnold> the ubuntu kernels are *not* easy to work with; it's probably best to either just use the binary packages, or manage your own kernel without reference to the ubuntu packages
[20:52] <wpcarro> oerheks: yes i came here to see where i could find the source :)
[20:52] <wpcarro> sarnold: might be a fine idea to just compile a vanilla linux kernel and patch the uname in through some compilation argument or something
[20:52] <wpcarro> idk
[20:53] <sarnold> wpcarro: that'd be vastly easier, yes :) but depending upon what you're trying to do it might not actually help
[20:54] <wpcarro> sarnold: yeah i worry ab a bunch of silent failures :/ and then software running on top of that assuming things ab the kernel that may not hold
[20:54] <wpcarro> how custom *is* ubuntu's kernel from the vanilla source? i think this security software we're using just monitors syscalls
[20:55] <oerheks> you will find out.
[20:55] <wpcarro> ack
[20:55] <sarnold> wpcarro: nearly everything with 'sauce' in the name is from slightly out of the usual flow of kernel development https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+changelog
[20:57] <realrandom> is debian kernel the same?
[20:57] <sarnold> no
[20:57] <realrandom> is debian more towards vanilla?
[20:57] <oerheks> if it was the same, why would we build different?
[20:57] <realrandom> idk
[20:58] <sarnold> realrandom: probably; I think the debian kernel team is a handful of people, the ubuntu kernel team is dozens of people working on supporting dozens of kernels on dozens of hardware platforms, cloud providers, etc
[20:58] <wpcarro> oh wow
[20:59] <wpcarro> sarnold: thanks for the warning
[20:59] <oerheks> !info vanilla-gnome-desktop
[20:59] <oerheks> i bet debian has a simular package
[21:00] <realrandom> ah cool
[21:47] <murmel> ogra: so found the culprit, firewalld (host) breaks snapd in vms. but *only* snapd :(
[21:51] <sarnold> o_O
[21:51] <murmel> yes, nice xD
[21:52] <murmel> i really wonder, as it seems that only https is being used
[21:53] <arraybolt3> How do I change my user agent in apt? For some reason apt is giving me 503 Resource temporarily unavailable errors on just one desktop.
[21:53] <arraybolt3> I'm wondering if my ISP is doing something nefarious.
[21:53]  * axis9 wondering too
[21:53] <Habbie> arraybolt3, how about switching to https?
[21:53] <arraybolt3> Habbie: Eh, not a bad idea.
[21:54] <murmel> i wonder if their proxy is borked
[21:54] <arraybolt3> Ohhh... I have a proxy on my machine.
[21:55] <Habbie> the call was coming from Inside The House
[21:55] <arraybolt3> (apt-cacher-ng, bet that's the problem.)
[21:55] <murmel> sarnold: even better, so firewalld seems to work, as snapd breaks in the vm, when you use firewalld on the host xD lol, wtf
[21:57] <arraybolt3> Yep, it was apt-cacher. "sudo systemctl restart apt-cacher-ng" immediately fixed the problem.
[21:59] <sarnold> oh yeah apt-cacher-ng does that kind of stuff
[21:59] <sarnold> imho it's easier to replace it with squid-deb-proxy than try to get to the bottom of it
[22:00] <murmel> arraybolt3: i really wonder, as I also have quite a few issues with squid-deb-proxy, what's going on with proxys in general :/ (mine just doesn't accept connections at some point, with no errors in logs)
[22:43] <yolo> is ubuntu 20.04 default to tcp for dns queries? just found out my ubuntu20.04 dns requests are all tcp instead of udp
[22:44] <murmel> yolo: afair, they are always tcp
[22:46] <yolo> for me it's new, windows seems to be all udp still, my router logged all queries from windows none from ubuntu, which made me look into it and found out tcp is the reason
[22:47] <yolo> is there a flag, actually I'm ok with tcp, just a bit surprised for my ignorance
[22:47] <murmel> yolo: what are you trying to do? switch over to udp?
[22:48] <yolo> murmel: no, just wondering if there is a flag to switch, curious
[22:49] <yolo> i changed my tcpdump filter to capture both udp and tcp, should be fine
[22:49] <murmel> yolo: not that I am aware of
[22:50] <Enissay> Gosh, all the sudden Settings is not opening
[22:50] <Enissay> I tried many times and nothing happens
[22:50] <Primal> Is there a way to make GNOME look like the one in Ubuntu, but on other distributions?
[22:50] <Enissay> Whats the cli for it ?
[22:51] <Primal> I quite like the look they did in Ubuntu
[22:52] <murmel> Primal: depends on your distro, that's why you would need to ask there
[22:52] <murmel> Enissay: which command are you looking for? to figure out what goes wrong?
[22:55] <ActionMan> Hi running Ubuntu server 22.04.01 LTS headless. I connect via Putty or ssh in terminal - I want to know if there is a history of commands run using a GUI - I know, sounds weird as I said it's headless. Here's the whole story: https://pastebin.com/vYu4FaAU
[22:56] <Habbie> ActionMan, i understand the question
[22:56] <Habbie> ActionMan, but generally, such a log does not exist - some GUI buttons may not even have equivalent commands
[22:56] <Habbie> ActionMan, and when they do, the app might not log that anywhere
[22:56] <ActionMan> that's what I was afraid of
[22:57] <Habbie> that said, most things you can click, you can also type - but you may need to find out what
[22:57] <ActionMan> yes
[22:57] <oerheks> there is no bash history for gui commands and mouseclicks
[22:57] <ActionMan> Even the Logitech Media Server log files are no help
[22:57] <ActionMan> I know there is a command, though. I don't know why they just don't publish it.
[22:58] <murmel> man, this snapd bug is getting weirder and weirder :(. clean install -> no work, upgrade from 20.04 -> fine
[23:01] <ActionMan> Someone pointed me here and said there are two commands on this page that I could use to create a script and then create a cron job for that script to run but ... I don't see how
[23:01] <ActionMan> http://lms:9000/settings/index.html?p0=rescan
[23:01] <ActionMan> sorry ignore that last post
[23:09] <oerheks> one could type logs in menu, log viewer with application logs too, but your Q is over ssh, not rdp
[23:10] <oerheks> *hips*
[23:25] <ActionMan> ... or I could quite being manic and just let the computer run the scan as programmed at 6 a.m.
[23:25] <ActionMan> -quit
[23:35] <Oski146_> hello i want to connect ftp in kubuntu, how do i do this? i want to ftp into my ps3
[23:38] <Oski146_> can i do this from inside dolphin?
[23:42] <sarnold> Oski146_: try installing kio-extras
[23:42] <sarnold> it claims to offer a kioslave that does ftp, anyway :)
[23:42] <Oski146_> ok and what do kio?
[23:43] <sarnold> kio is KDE's IO abstraction service
[23:43] <Oski146_>  can i use then ftp over dolphin? after install?
[23:43] <sarnold> it's what lets applications use one API to interact with files that are both local or remote
[23:44] <sarnold> I'm not sure, I haven't actually used kde in 20-ish years
[23:44] <Oski146_> ok thanks for explanation
[23:44] <sarnold> but it's promising :)
[23:44] <Oski146_> i would try after reinstalling my machine because i f upo my machine with tips from internet
[23:44] <sarnold> oof
[23:44] <sarnold> reinstalling isn't fun
[23:45] <sarnold> it might be more predictable, and depending upon what's broken, may be easier :) but sometimes 'small' fixes can make all the difference
[23:46] <Oski146_> yes i know but i safed all data and then i can start clean again. install is already started. i deleted my whole system at once with a command from the internet, just data were not affected. i had this with steam too at aother time
[23:47] <Oski146_> its sad but i have backup hdd for such things  when something goes wrong
[23:48] <genii> I think all you need to do is select "Network" on far left of Dolphin, then in the URL bar put:  ftp://wherever
[23:50] <Oski146_>  ook thanks :)