[00:05] <simon_> hi
[00:05] <ActionMan> what was the "i deleted my whole system at once with a command from the internet" and where did you find that
[00:05] <ActionMan> don't try this at home
[00:07] <oerheks> Yes, we are not going to repeat that ActionMan. ubuntu support only
[00:07] <jhutchins> sarnold: ftp is an obsolete protocol that can be hard to support.  You might find it easier to use ssh/scp to transfer files, or rsync for batches of data.
[00:07] <jhutchins> sarnold: Not sure how you got on that ...
[00:07] <sarnold> jhutchins: preaching to the choir man, but ps3 is *also* obsolete that's hard to support and might only have an ftp server available
[00:08] <jhutchins> I wonder if the ftp:// worked?
[00:09] <ActionMan> he wants to ftp into ps3
[00:09] <oerheks> filezilla
[00:25] <Oski146__> soome one is using my nickname how to kick him
[00:25] <Oski146__> its registered name
[00:25] <retrosenator> ghost
[00:25] <retrosenator> you ghost them
[00:26] <Oski146__> !op
[00:26] <oerheks> that is more a #libera issue, not ubuntu
[00:26] <Unit193> ...This is not the correct time to call channel ops...
[00:27] <Oski146__> how can it be that iam three  times in this channel i want that it got kicked please
[00:27] <oerheks> and you seem to be logged in.
[00:27] <Unit193> If you look, they're all using your IP, so your client must have messe dup.
[00:27] <retrosenator> do you let ppl ssh into your box?
[00:27] <VMGuy23> Oski146__: type "/msg NickServ help ghost" for info.
[00:28] <Unit193> VMGuy23: His others already pinged out.
[00:28] <oerheks> many computers on the same account?
[00:28] <oerheks> lolz
[00:28] <Oski146__> what?
[00:29] <retrosenator> Oski146_____:   how many are you?
[00:29] <Oski146__> omg whats this
[00:29] <Oski146__> someone is using my name all the time
[00:29] <sarnold> Oski146__: it's you
[00:29] <oerheks> no, it your connection failing.
[00:29] <sarnold> Oski146__: you need a more reliable connection
[00:29] <VMGuy23> Oski146__: it's all you
[00:30] <oerheks> please stop, if you want to complain about your nickname, join #libera.
[00:30] <Oski146__> ok but i have gigabit
[00:30] <Oski146__> sorry guys
[00:31] <retrosenator> you can run screen on a shell account to avoid this
[00:31] <Oski146__> how to do it? iam online on a windows machine and on my linux machine
[00:31] <retrosenator> no wonder, mixing windows and linux is like oil and water
[00:32] <oerheks> both try to join irc with 1 account?
[00:32] <Oski146__> linux is currently offline
[00:32] <oerheks> then it is certainly not an ubuntu issue.
[00:33] <Oski146__> i think its the connection sorry guys
[01:09] <yolo> murmel: i think it's chrome does dns-tcp instead of ubuntu, as dig|nslookup|other-apps all do udp-dns under ubuntu
[01:10] <yolo> in fact, firefox also does udp, chrome is the exception
[01:11] <sarnold> usual DNS requires both UDP and TCP
[01:12] <yolo> probably for <512bytes udp, for larger packets tcp
[01:12] <sarnold> yeah
[01:13] <oski146> i have one more question. how can i mount a hdd drive permanently upon startup
[01:13] <yolo> put it to /etc/fstab?
[01:13] <oski146> how to, iam a semi beginner
[01:13] <yolo> blkid the partition, and add one line to /etc/fstab is what I do
[01:13] <oerheks> !fstab
[01:13] <oerheks> good start
[01:14] <oski146> thanks
[01:32] <oski146> thanks worked fine good explanation at this point. harddrive mounted successfully
[01:32] <oerheks> have fun!
[01:32] <oski146> good to learn something new
[01:41] <oski146> is there any avice how to check if trim is enabled? i forgot it atm
[01:47] <sarnold> oski146: try systemctl list-timers   -- you'll probably see a timer named e2scrub_all.timer that runs e2scrub_all.service which starts up a program that invokes fstrim
[01:49] <oski146> thamks i try
[01:50] <oski146> that workjed thanks
[01:50] <oski146> it called fstrim timer
[01:53] <sarnold> heh that's what I expected to find! I was surprised when it wasn't there..
[02:09] <pickanick> is there a way to check for snap updates while snap applications are running?
[02:11] <pickanick> asking because "snap refresh" will report "All snaps up to date." even if they are not.
[02:12] <sarnold> try snap info?
[02:12] <sarnold> snap info matterhorn   works when I've got matterhorn running, and the output includes:
[02:12] <sarnold>   latest/edge:      50200.17.0-4-g71917a58 2022-08-07 (369) 163MB -
[02:12] <sarnold> installed:          50200.17.0-4-g71917a58            (369) 163MB -
[02:13] <retrosenator> i got: error: the required argument `<snap> (at least 1 argument)` was not provided
[02:13] <toddc> pickanick:     ps aux | grep snap
[02:14] <toddc> edit that will list running snaps not exacly what you wanted
[02:16] <Fhazal> hye i have problem with ubuntu 22.04 nvidia auto install command
[02:17] <Fhazal> this error appear when i try to auto install recommended driver
[02:17] <toddc> pickanick: kill any running snap with    kill XXXXX     then snap refresh and all snaps will be updated to current
[02:18] <Fhazal> https://pastebin.com/ydZVFT24
[02:22] <Fhazal> when i use software and updates app and choose the "Usin Nvidia driver (open kernel) metapackage from nvidia-driver-515-open (proprietary,tested) my pc hang
[02:22] <Fhazal> after login screen
[04:58] <pickanick> sarnold thank you for answering my question.
[04:58] <pickanick> toddc thank you for answering a different question.
[06:18] <murmel> Fhazal: as the open kernel driver is still very much alpha i wouldn't test it out (for now)
[06:37] <wombarra> ello
[06:38] <wombarra> is someone there
[06:38] <murmel> !ask
[06:39] <murmel> wombarra: you would need to ask stuff
[08:27] <Apachez> oh great, ubuntu has become adware
[08:28] <Apachez> apt spams with ads
[08:28] <Apachez> Calculating upgrade... Done
[08:28] <Apachez> Try Ubuntu Pro beta with a free personal subscription on up to 5 machines.
[08:28] <Apachez> Learn more at https://ubuntu.com/pro
[08:28] <Apachez> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:38] <Unit193> LP 1992026
[08:38] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1992026 in ubuntu-advantage-tools (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Pro APT integration is a bit much" [Critical, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1992026
[10:14] <hej> Hello, I just installed 22.10beta on my new am5 system...I made a custom partition layout, with /boot on nvme0n1p1, /boot/efi on nvme0n1p2, / on /dev/mapper/vg_system/lv_root_ubuntu and /var on /dev/mapper/vg_system/lv_var_ubuntu
[10:15] <hej> when I try to boot on ubuntu, it states: block device /dev/mapper/vg_system-lv_root_ubuntu is not a valid root device
[10:16] <hej> how do I configure ubuntu such that I can have / on lvm ?
[10:20] <hej> oh... found the culprit... The other distro I got on other lv's were running kernel 6.0.1 and 22.10 is on 5.19, so grub had choosen the 6.0.1 kernel for the ubuntu boot, by default
[10:23] <cbreak> why not put /boot and / on the same partition? I do that with zfs, works fine.
[10:24] <cbreak> that way, none of my different systems interfere with each other
[10:24] <hej> the boot and efi partitions are currently shared between the dists
[10:25] <hej> i'm splitting it because efi aparently needs fat32 and I don't want to use that for /boot
[10:27] <laerling> Sharing /boot between dists sounds risky
[10:28] <cbreak> exactly
[10:28] <cbreak> even between different versions of ubuntu
[10:37] <lokisir> hi there
[11:14] <halc> hello\
[11:15] <halc> how work ubuntu on old machines now ? i dont want lag it, old asus wit i3 gen 2 and intel 3000 hd, 4 gb ddr3
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> welcome halc
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> halc: you can choose lightweight ubuntu !flavour if you like
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> or tweak an ubuntu-desktop to the max
[11:17] <halc> idk if its possible i remember new ubuntu work on heavy gnome or its changed ?
[11:17] <halc> anyway this sytem is only for internet and maybe videos.
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> halc: gnome would like 4GB ram or more to run smoothly, unless you tweak your system and use some lightweight apps and such
[11:18] <halc> kubuntu can be a bit to heavy,
[11:18] <halc> lubuntu is joke they dont even change irc channels from ubuntu
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> lubuntu is pretty solid actualy
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> !flavours | halc pick n choose
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> we also have xubuntu core, ubuntu server and ubunty unity 22.10 that could serve for lightweight use
[11:21] <geirha> I'd go with xubuntu
[11:29] <arkanoid> if ubuntu server would go kernel panicm would I see it in next boot journalctl?
[11:29] <arkanoid> I'm dealing with a ubuntu server randomly crashing, no help from logs on next reboot. Even the serial console is unresponsive after crash
[11:30] <arkanoid> so I fear hardware damage, but I have zero hint where the problem might be
[11:31] <arkanoid> /var/crash is empty
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> arkanoid: wich ubuntu release on wich kernel would this be?
[11:33] <arkanoid> lotuspsychje: 5.15.0-50-generic Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS, but this problem started happening in 20.04. I upgraded to 22.04 hoping it would be fixed for some reason, which is not
[11:33] <arkanoid> that's why I fear hardware issue
[11:33] <tomreyn> arkanoid: kernel panics usully don't end up on log files. information on them is not usually persisted unless you take sprecautions to make that happen.
[11:34] <arkanoid> tomreyn: I'm reading right now how to make it happen. Installing linux-crashdump
[11:35] <tomreyn> exactly, that's what i wanted to suggest next. a serial console may also help there, but may not catch it fully. or at all.
[11:35] <arkanoid> tomreyn: I have a serial console available on the machine, but not a slave machine conneted 24/7 to it waiting for something
[11:36] <tomreyn> what you would see in the journal are oopses
[11:36] <arkanoid> it's a remote machine, so not easy to handle
[11:36] <arkanoid> ok, rebooting to make linux-crashdump happy
[11:36] <tomreyn> you'd need both. there's also netconsole, but it's less likely to work, since also networking needs to continue to work for that
[11:37] <arkanoid> tomreyn: I'll try to wire up a raspberry for that, thanks for the info
[11:39] <arkanoid> also automatic reboot would be nice to have if possible
[11:39] <arkanoid> when problem happens
[11:39] <arkanoid> I remember playing with something calling watchdog for that
[11:40] <tomreyn> that's to be done on firmware/hardware
[11:40] <tomreyn> which hardware is this?
[11:41] <arkanoid> tomreyn: I do remember setting up reboot on kernel panics via wireguard ages ago (early ubuntu)
[11:41] <arkanoid> I'm checking now if the mobo supports watchdog right now
[11:42] <arkanoid> /dev/watchdog is not present, bug dmesg shows [    0.492116] NMI watchdog: Enabled. Permanently consumes one hw-PMU counter.
[11:42] <arkanoid> not sure what it means
[11:42] <tomreyn> i don't see how wireguard would be related to this
[11:43] <tomreyn> it means that your hardware /firmware supports the watchdog feature
[11:43] <arkanoid> DAMN, my head mixed words. I mean watchdog here :D (I use wireguard daily, thats a reason)
[11:43] <arkanoid> let me check in bios/firware settings if I have it off for some reason
[11:43] <arkanoid> brb
[11:51] <arkanoid> tomreyn: I've found that the system has a watchdog chip SuperIO NCT5104D and the firmware settings had it disabled. I can set it to 60 or more seconds, and after this time interval it hard reboots
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> arkanoid: did you recall at wich kernel version the panics started on 20.04?
[11:52] <arkanoid> if I remember correctly, watchdog requires a runtime component that regularly zeroes the counter
[11:52] <arkanoid> lotuspsychje: I've upgraded from 20.04 to 22.04 last week, so basically current LTS generic kernel on 20.04
[11:53] <arkanoid> after enabling the wathdog with interval 60, I'm still not getting /dev/watchdog
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> arkanoid: yes, but you said the panics started on 20.04 so it might be useful to know at wich point exactly
[11:54] <arkanoid> the one you would have with an apt-get update on 20.04 last week
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic focal
[11:55] <arkanoid> lotuspsychje: but the problem might not be kernel related, as it started happening out of the blue
[11:55] <arkanoid> at least this is what seems to me
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> arkanoid: possibly yeah, but as much as we can rule out would be helpful to get to your root problem
[11:57] <arkanoid> sure, that's why I'm trying to setup the required tools to acquire as much information as possible (installed linux-crashdump, setting up watchdog now to have multiple logs possibly)
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> arkanoid: if you could share your current dmesg of that system, would be useful aswell so the volunteers can have a look for you
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> even without showing the panics
[12:01] <arkanoid> lotuspsychje: sure https://termbin.com/k6tro this is the hardware https://www.pcengines.ch/pdf/apu3.pdf
[12:01] <lokisir> 323
[12:03] <arkanoid> I am now trying to get /dev/watchdog present in device tree, apparently NCT5104D driver/module is not present
[12:04] <arkanoid> might be related to dmesg line [   11.078631] gpio-keys-polled gpio-keys-polled: unable to claim gpio 0, err=-517 ?
[12:05] <arkanoid> /sys/kernel/debug/gpio does not exists
[12:06] <arkanoid> no, my fault, it does exist (I was not root)
[12:08] <arkanoid> I'm failing to find if NCT5104D is compatible with ubuntu or not
[12:08] <arkanoid> I do find some drivers related to NCT5104D on github, but not the information if this is in the ubuntu kernel tree
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> arkanoid: looks pretty sane overall to me, just br-ce96dc609437: port 1(vethd92db2d) entered blocking state, im not really familiar with
[12:13] <ogra> arkanoid, grep NCT[0-9] /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[12:13] <arkanoid> lotuspsychje: the 3 nics are configured as bridge
[12:14] <arkanoid> ogra: no matches found: NCT[0-9]
[12:14] <ogra> find 4 modules for me on 22.04
[12:14] <ogra> *finds
[12:14] <arkanoid> O_o
[12:15] <ogra> https://termbin.com/dfz6s
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:15] <arkanoid> ogra: it was a zsh problem, with bash I get 4 modules too
[12:15] <ogra> on 5.15.0-50-generic here
[12:16] <arkanoid> but no NCT5x, they start from NCT6
[12:19] <ogra> well, perhaps one of the 6x ones covers 5x
[12:23] <arkanoid> let's see, do you know how to find the module name?
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> sudo lshw -C network
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> will show the driver= at bottom
[12:26] <arkanoid> according to the 4 driver pages here, none of the existing linux drivers cover NCT5104D https://docs.kernel.org/hwmon/index.html , the existing drivers are more for voltage, fan speed, temperature sensors, not gpio/watchdog
[12:28] <arkanoid> well, I'll give up the watchdog thing. Apparently linux doesn't cover this chip
[12:29] <arkanoid> I'm always quite surprised that a company delivers a chip before sending linux developers the source to make it work on the market the easy way
[12:32] <arkanoid> thanks for the help. I'll keep the linux-crashdump + pi reading console 24/7
[12:43] <tomreyn> arkanoid: https://github.com/pcengines/linux-gpio-nct5104d
[12:44] <tomreyn> this is gpio support, i assume this can also provide watchdog support.
[12:44] <tomreyn> https://forum.openwrt.org/t/pc-engines-apu4d2-gpio-support/89357 https://cdn.datasheetspdf.com/pdf-down/N/C/T/NCT5104D-novoTon.pdf
[12:46] <ogra> ah, there is a dkms setup for it
[12:46] <arkanoid> tomreyn:  damn, I've been googling for 15 minute and I didn't land there
[12:46] <arkanoid> Sure, I'll try it in minutes (having some food now). Thanks for the link
[13:19] <arkanoid> tomreyn: it fails with "dpkg-buildpackage: error: failed to sign .dsc file" I guess it's a gpg something missing
[13:22] <arkanoid> also I'm getting lots of perl: warning: Setting locale failed., but this is very old error I'm dragging from ubuntu 18
[13:22] <arkanoid> seems not doing much damage
[13:22] <ogra> arkanoid, dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc
[13:22] <ogra> that will skip signing
[13:24] <arkanoid> thanks. Now it ends correctly but the .deb is not generated
[13:25] <arkanoid> I can see in the build dir that usr/src dpkg struct is there, I could just copy it without passing through apt
[13:25] <ogra> check one leve up
[13:25] <ogra> *level
[13:25] <arkanoid> yep! it's one level up (?!? quite confusing approach)
[13:26] <ogra> well, it does not want to taint your source dir 😉
[13:27] <arkanoid> new approach would be put in build and have it in gitignore
[13:30] <arkanoid> ok, installed and modprobed, sadly no /dev/watchdog
[13:31] <arkanoid> dmesg shows quite successful output, trying a reboot to see if watchdog comes into play
[13:33] <Ntemis> hi
[13:33] <Ntemis> after installing the new nvidia driver i cannot boot to my os
[13:34] <Ntemis> i enter recovery purge the driver and then i can boot normally
[13:34] <Ntemis> after reinstalling blackscreen awaits
[13:34] <Ntemis> only mesa driver works but my os is slow as molases due to the known nvidia issue
[14:51] <lagunaloire> why doesn't the video player , i guess it is still totem...it just says videos now...it won't decode mpeg movies
[14:51] <lagunaloire> i tried to play a movie and it says missing the mpeg parser plugin
[14:52] <lagunaloire> but vlc plays the movie ok...so it is strange that the gnome video player won't play a movie
[14:57] <lagunaloire> also i installed gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad for totem but it did not help to play the video
[14:58] <ioria> lagunaloire, is -ugly installed too ?
[14:59] <lagunaloire> ioria let me see, i think i installed that one too
[14:59] <lagunaloire> ioria yes i already installed it and it did not help either
[15:00] <lagunaloire> ioria is it possible the video player is compiled for the older version of the plugins
[15:01] <ioria> lagunaloire, idk, but in general, if you play with codecs you should install  ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:01] <lagunaloire> ioria yes i already installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:02] <lagunaloire> ioria i just can't understand why vlc will play them but the gnome video's app wants some unknown additional plugin
[15:03] <ioria> they use different libs
[15:03] <lagunaloire> ioria yes i am wondering it videos is compiled for the gstreamer version 0 plugins
[15:04] <lagunaloire> ioria but it is not good to mix the plugins and i already have some other apps that use the version 1 plugins
[15:05] <ioria> lagunaloire, what's your ubuntu version ?
[15:05] <lagunaloire> ioria it is jammy
[15:06] <tomreyn> lagunaloire: what does    lsb_release -ds    print, which graphical desktop (ubuntu default is gnome-shell), which *gstreamer* packages are installed (apt list --installed *gstreamer*), what's the output for    file /path/to/that_media_file.mpeg    and what is printed on screen when you run     totem /path/to/that_media_file.mpeg
[15:06] <tomreyn> !paste | lagunaloire
[15:07] <lagunaloire> tom_reyn the first command prints ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS
[15:08] <ioria> lagunaloire, sudo apt remove gstreamer1.0-vaapi   and try again
[15:09] <lagunaloire> ioria ok just take it out and don't install it back
[15:09] <ioria> ok ?
[15:10] <lagunaloire> ioria ok i removed it so now i inserted the movie and see if it will play
[15:11] <ioria> yes
[15:11] <lagunaloire> ioria no it still says gstreamer mpegvideoparse plugin is not installed
[15:15] <lagunaloire> tomreyn ok i listed all gstreamer plugins installed at this url https://dpaste.com/CD5YCWEK3
[15:16] <lagunaloire> tomreyn i am wondering if totem wants the old gstreamer plugins
[15:18] <tomreyn> lagunaloire: which old ones?
[15:18] <lagunaloire> tomreyn maybe somebody did not compile it correctly
[15:18] <lagunaloire> tomreyn it used to use the gstreamer0.10 plugins a long time ago
[15:19] <tomreyn> also a long time ago, yes
[15:19] <tomreyn> this won't be why
[15:20] <lagunaloire> tomreyn did you see the list of installed plugins at the posted url
[15:20] <tomreyn> lagunaloire: i did
[15:21] <tomreyn> it seems that the mpegvideoparse utility (?) https://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/documentation/videoparsersbad/mpegvideoparse.html?gi-language=c#mpegvideoparse-page  is not available in ubuntu, though: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=jammy&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=mpegvideoparse
[15:22] <tomreyn> oh this probably ends up in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gstreamer-1.0/libgstvideoparsersbad.so  https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=jammy&arch=any&mode=filename&searchon=contents&keywords=videoparse
[15:25] <tomreyn> you could provide the other outputs, and also run totem with --gst-debug=GST_AUTOPLUG:5
[15:25] <tomreyn> but i'll bbl
[15:25] <lagunaloire> tomreyn no i don't have libgstmpegparser.so in that location...i guess that is why it isn't working
[15:26] <tomreyn> lagunaloire: unless you're on a different architecture: that's weird, because your apt output shows you have the package providing this file installed
[15:27] <lagunaloire> tomreyn i do have gstlibgstvideoparsers.badl.so in that location
[15:27] <lagunaloire> not badl..just bad..a typo
[15:28] <tomreyn> "gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad/jammy-updates,now 1.20.3-0ubuntu1 amd64 [installed]" is part of your apt output
[15:29] <tomreyn> file /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gstreamer-1.0/libgstvideoparsersbad.so is part of this package https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/amd64/gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad/filelist
[15:29] <tomreyn> sorry, correct link is https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy-updates/amd64/gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad/filelist
[15:30] <lagunaloire> tomreyn i have that parser in my gstreamer libs but it still says mpegvideoparser plugin is missing
[15:31] <tomreyn> do you have this file, or not? /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gstreamer-1.0/libgstvideoparsersbad.so
[15:31] <lagunaloire> tomreyn yes i have that parser lib
[15:31] <lagunaloire> tomreyn but it apparently is not being found
[15:32] <tomreyn> i see. then you can try the debugging approach outlined above
[15:32] <lagunaloire> tomreyn is there an environment variable that needs to be set for totem to use that library path
[15:33] <lagunaloire> tomreyn the debugging approach did not change anything
[15:34] <tomreyn> totem should (indirectly, through libgstreamer) use this path by default
[15:34] <tomreyn> what does    /usr/bin/gst-inspect-1.0 | grep mpegvideoparse    output?
[15:35] <tomreyn> lagunaloire: actually, i'll need to stop it here. sorry i couldn't help. good luck.
[15:37] <lagunaloire> tomreyn ok here is the paste url https://dpaste.com/4X62PXTK9
[15:37] <lagunaloire> tomreyn for the grep command
[15:38] <lagunaloire> tomreyn i am not sure if the intel x driver supports vaapi..that might only be relevant for the amd gpu
[15:38] <ogra> lagunaloire, looks like your gstreamer setup is absolutely fine ...
[15:39] <ogra> but you have the binary VAAPI driver for intel installed and that does not find a card
[15:39] <lagunaloire> ogra i don't know...the driver works for many games but i dont' know if intel supports vaapi
[15:39] <ogra> games ?
[15:39] <ogra> that is a video decoding driver ...
[15:40] <ogra> has nothing to do with games usually 😉
[15:40] <lagunaloire> ogra..yes i know but it seems to be included only if you have vaapi support
[15:40] <ogra> VAAPI is for decoding video streams/files
[15:41] <ogra> (and yes, intel supports VAAPI ... they in fact invented it 🙂 )
[15:41] <lagunaloire> ogra ok then that is not the problem either
[15:41] <ogra> err
[15:41] <ogra> that is definitely the source of your problem
[15:42] <lagunaloire> ogra let me see what ffplay says from the command line
[15:42] <ogra> gstreamer tries to use VAAPI when you open an mpeg video ... and obviously then the vaapi library fails to find a card to show you the video
[15:43] <ogra> ffplay isnt relevant here
[15:43] <ogra> it will just use SW decoding if it hits the same issues
[15:43] <ogra> (by design)
[15:43] <ogra> so you should be able to i.e. play back your video with vnc for example
[15:43] <ogra> or any other ffmpeg based player
[15:44] <ogra> heh
[15:44] <ogra> s/vnc/vlc/
[15:44] <ogra> (but it will indeed decode via CPU, no GPU)
[15:44] <ogra> *not
[15:45] <Assid> heya
[15:45] <ioria> i think it's a gstreamer issue
[15:45] <ogra> ioria, have you see the paste ?
[15:45] <lagunaloire> ogra yes vlc plays the video fine..but ffplay just plays the first frame only and says avcodec library configuration mismatch
[15:45] <ioria> nope, which one ?
[15:45] <ogra> libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_14
[15:45] <ogra> libva error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/iHD_drv_video.so init failed
[15:45] <ogra> libva info: va_openDriver() returns 1
[15:46] <ioria> ogra, ^
[15:46] <ogra> thats the putput from gst-inspect ...
[15:46] <ogra> (before it prints stuff about mpegvideoparse)
[15:46] <ioria> i see
[15:47] <Assid> so i have  a pi running ubuntu with ZFS .. and i have samba running on it.. any file thats on the system..  isnt accessible / executd  over saba.. however,.. any file copied to the samba share is able to be executed ..  the permissions/mask  are pretty much identical
[15:47] <lagunaloire> ogra that is strange that ffplay won't play the dvd either
[15:47] <lagunaloire> ogra only vlc plays it
[15:47] <ogra> "the dvd" ...
[15:48] <ogra> yu asked about mpeg streams !!!
[15:48] <lagunaloire> ogra yes it is a cheap movie i got at goodwill called "the last samurai"
[15:48] <ogra> DVDs are locked down ... you might need more to actually have gstreamer be able to decode the lock
[15:48] <lagunaloire> ogra well what else could be missing
[15:48] <ogra> s/decode/unlock/
[15:49] <lagunaloire> ogra because ffplay doesn't work either
[15:49] <lagunaloire> ogra it only plays the first frame
[15:49] <ogra> how about https://askubuntu.com/questions/1085627/video-totem-wont-play-dvds-while-others-vlc-can
[15:50] <ogra> also https://askubuntu.com/questions/500/how-can-i-play-encrypted-dvd-movies
[15:51] <ogra> the second one is more relevant i think ...
[15:52]  * ogra neds to go afk now ... good luck ....
[15:52] <ioria> lagunaloire, if you install  libdvd-pkg , i suggest you reboot after
[15:53] <lagunaloire> ioria it has already been installed..that is how vlc works and plays the movie
[15:53] <lagunaloire> ioria it bothers me why ffplay shows corrupted video..
[15:54] <lagunaloire> ioria and ffplay doesn't seem to unlock the movie
[15:56] <ioria> lagunaloire, can we see the error screenshot ?
[15:56] <lagunaloire> ioria let me reboot anyway after i dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkg
[15:56] <lagunaloire> ioria yes i can get a screenshot .
[15:56] <ioria> that was necessary for older versions, but ok
[16:07] <lagunaloire> ioria ok here is a gimp png screenshot that shows how bad it is   https://imgur.com/a/Y0ngEAt
[16:08] <ioria> lagunaloire, ok, but i asked for the mpeg missing plugin  error
[16:08] <lagunaloire> ioria i have never had this terrible video from ffplay in all the years of past use
[16:08] <lagunaloire> ioria ok let me get a screenshot of that
[16:11] <lagunaloire> ioria ok here is the link https://imgur.com/a/YCpSTgw
[16:12] <lagunaloire> ioria for the sceenshot when trying to play the movie dvd with totem
[16:12] <oerheks> Install libdvdnav4, libdvdread4, gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad, gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly, and libdvd-pkg.  ( from https://help.ubuntu.com/22.04/ubuntu-help/video-dvd-restricted.html.en )
[16:12] <oerheks> the -ugly one is important, i guess
[16:13] <rpnx> Hello, I want to disable hard drive spin down in ubuntu 20.04, how could I do that?
[16:13] <rpnx> I have a home storage/NAS server and the disks spin up kind of slow so I want to make it not do that.
[16:13] <lagunaloire> oerheks all those are installed
[16:14] <oerheks> rpnx, see this post, comandline or step 2; gui
[16:14] <oerheks> https://linuxconfig.org/change-hard-drive-s-sleep-standby-mode-timer-to-reduce-power-consumption
[16:14] <oerheks> select ' never'  and you are fine
[16:15] <lagunaloire> oerheks all those libs you mentioned are already installed
[16:15] <oerheks> lagunaloire, then i have no clue why your movie does not play, must be a special codec?
[16:15] <lagunaloire> oerheks ok let me try an older dvd disk
[16:15] <oerheks> vlc got them all build-in
[16:15] <lagunaloire> oerheks yes vlc plays it ok
[16:16] <ioria> lagunaloire, try this : cd in ~/.cache and rm the totem and the gstreamer folders
[16:16] <rpnx> oerheks: are hdparam settings persistent between reboots?
[16:17] <ioria> lagunaloire, then, reinstall :  sudo apt install --reinstall libdvdnav4 gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly libdvd-pkg ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:17] <oerheks> rpnx, i hope so, else it is useless
[16:19] <rpnx> thanks. How can I force ubuntu to redetect network adapters the way it does on first install?
[16:19] <rpnx> I changed motherboard and it seems to cause some sort of issue during boot
[16:24] <sato> Привет
[16:28] <lagunaloire> ioria it is strange totem plays the old dvd "treasure island" correctly but won't play "the last samurai" movie that i just got on sale at goodwill
[16:28] <lagunaloire> ioria but vlc will play it
[16:29] <oerheks> not all dvd' s will play, just a notice.
[16:29] <oerheks> that a 2nd plays, says the software is installed right.
[16:29] <lagunaloire> oerheks yes the old encryption schemes seem to work but the new ones don't
[17:03] <lagunaloire> ioria if you look carefully you can see 225 mpeg decoding errors with this crazy dvd movie at this url https://imgur.com/a/Y0ngEAt
[17:08] <lagunaloire> i cant understand why the intel x driver works for games but doesn't permit mpeg to be decoded properly with no errors
[17:12] <lagunaloire> i guess that is why they seem to never finish with a fixed set of code for ffmpeg
[17:12] <lagunaloire> after 25 years they still are changing the versions of ffmpeg
[17:16] <lagunaloire> i can't see how many decoding errors vlc has but at least it plays the movie
[17:49] <atlef> lagunaloire, have you tried to rip it with handbrake to see if that gives you any errors/more info?
[17:58] <lagunaloire> atlef..no i haven't tried to rip it with handbrake or vlc...becuase of the draconian dmca law in the us
[17:58] <lagunaloire> atlef if it wasn't a hollywood dmca protected copyright i would rip it
[17:59] <lagunaloire> atlef i got if for one dollar at goodwill store here in texas
[18:00] <lagunaloire> atlef but i never thought ubuntu would have so much trouble with it
[18:02] <atlef> lagunaloire, ok
[18:02] <atlef> lagunaloire, but you can watch it with vlc?
[18:03] <lagunaloire> atlef yes vlc works on ubuntu and windows and plays it just fine on both
[18:08] <lagunaloire> atlef it is just a movie about japanese history and the legendary samurai warrior matsumoto...so if the videos app in ubuntu won't play it and neither will ffplay of ffmpeg..i guess i can just use vlc
[18:09] <lagunaloire> atlef but i got it for one dollar because i like to keep historical stuff in my libraries
[18:10] <atlef> lagunaloire, that is what i would do.
[18:12] <lagunaloire> atlef well if you don't live under the dmca law it is advisable to rip and save on a more reliable medium
[18:12] <lagunaloire> atlef but i am not allowed to rip it here in the us
[18:12] <atlef> lagunaloire, if i bought it, i own it. it is mine to do with what i want, but thats me
[18:13] <rbox> you're also not allowed to use vlc to watch it
[18:13] <rbox> but who cares
[18:13] <rbox> lol
[18:13] <lagunaloire> atlef..yes i know..i used to feel the same way about cassette tapes that i purchased
[18:13] <lagunaloire> atlef i used to save them on a better medium a long time ago
[18:15] <lagunaloire> rbox no i have the right to watch the movie on vlc...i paid $16 for windows 10 professional which comes with a licensed dvd player...so i legally can watch the dvd in any program i want
[18:16] <lagunaloire> rbox and since i already paid the fee i can watch it on ubuntu also
[18:17] <rbox> ROFL
[18:17] <rbox> thats not how that works... but whatever helps you sleep at night
[18:18] <lagunaloire> rbox...yes it is..i paid the fee for dvd priveleges included in the windows price..so i can watch it on gentoo and ubuntu and windows whenever i want for any movies i want
[18:18] <tomreyn> shall we get back on topic then? any more ubuntu support questions?
[18:19] <rbox> "dvd privileges"... lol
[18:19] <lagunaloire> rbox well the fee is because those crazy dvd encoders want money for their encryption scheme
[18:20] <lagunaloire> rbox and it applies to any hollywood movie on dvd or blu ray...so you only need to pay it once
[18:21] <lagunaloire> rbox also i paid the fee a long time ago...when i bought an nvidia graphics card which let me use the propietary nvidia dvd player..which took care of the dvd encryption fee
[18:21] <tomreyn> !ot | lagunaloire, rbox
[18:22] <lagunaloire> rbox so i paid twice and that is more than enough
[18:26] <junebug> If all apps and packages get updated with apt update through the terminal how does the terminal get updated?
[18:27] <junebug> Doesn't the terminal need to be closed in order to update?
[18:27] <lagunaloire> junebug..sudo apt install gnome-terminal...will update it if any new versions come out
[18:28] <cry0xen> i am not expert but everything is usually get loaded at ram
[18:28] <junebug> lagunaloire, yeah but you have to run that through the terminal.
[18:28] <lagunaloire> junebug it is not a problem
[18:28] <junebug> How can the terminal be updated if its being used
[18:28] <realrandom> its because its loaded in ram and running in ram
[18:28] <rbox> junebug: how is hexchat updated if its in use?
[18:28] <cry0xen> yes so storage files gets updated in the background
[18:29] <lagunaloire> junebug but if you use mate then change to sudo apt install mate-terminal
[18:29] <realrandom> even if you erase your whole hard drive your system will still run somewhat
[18:29] <cry0xen> its the same way you upgrade a bios
[18:29] <junebug> Ok. So the instance that I'm using to run the update command is in ram but the actual application files get updated. So next time I open the terminal it will be the updated version. Got it
[18:29] <realrandom> yes
[18:30] <junebug> Thank you
[18:30] <lagunaloire> junebug that is correct
[18:30] <lagunaloire> junebug but don't confuse gnome-terminal with mate-terminal
[18:30] <junebug> I use xfce
[18:31] <cry0xen> one produce tiny people other produces coffee
[18:31] <lagunaloire> junebug oh i remember xfce from win95 days a long time ago...does it use rxvt
[18:31] <junebug> I don't know lagunaloire
[18:31] <lagunaloire> junebug xfce is light on the resources but it is quite old
[18:32] <bparker> win95 ftw
[18:32] <junebug> I like it. Does colors nicelt
[18:32] <cry0xen> @lagunaloire: what did ya use?
[18:32] <junebug> nicely*
[18:32] <cry0xen> w95 was my first os :D
[18:32] <lagunaloire> cry0xen well it was a great os for its day
[18:32] <bparker> not really
[18:33] <bparker> 95 was quite terrible and buggy
[18:33] <lagunaloire> cry0xen but it would not compete with ibm's warp...so microsoft had to switch to from win95 to nt
[18:33] <bparker> start -> run -> \con\con
[18:33] <bparker> instant crash
[18:34] <bparker> lagunaloire: if you haven't noticed, os/2 is the one that failed
[18:34] <bparker> even before 95
[18:34] <cry0xen> i think my first mb belonged to a company called sis ... amd k6 2/3 processor
[18:34] <lagunaloire> bparker well i played lots and lots of games on win95 and then win98 ..it was great and could access the internet , i never ran into a single crash
[18:34] <bparker> lagunaloire: that's the biggest sack of lies I've ever heard in my entire life.
[18:35] <cry0xen> that big hunk of a processor with golden pins
[18:35] <lagunaloire> barker but it could not compete with the os2 kernel...so microsoft had to switch to nt
[18:35] <cry0xen> with 4gb hard drive from quantun fireball
[18:36] <lagunaloire> bparker that is not a sack of lies..i played lots of games..including final fantasy games, sherlock holmes games, monkey island games, indiana jones games, other lucas games, and many more without a single crash
[18:36] <krytarik> !offtopic
[18:37] <lagunaloire> bparker but it could not compete with ibm's os2 kernel
[18:37] <lagunaloire> bparker so microsoft changed to the nt kernel and the rest was history
[18:39] <lagunaloire> barker i did run into one problem with final fantasy 7 on win98..that was tifa's spinner...but it worked fine on nt kernel when microsoft changed to nt
[18:40] <cry0xen> yes the os occasionally freeze or bsods however it was not that unusable like you describe. drivers were pain though.
[18:40] <bparker> lmao
[18:40] <lagunaloire> barker but it wasn't a crashing issue
[18:40] <lagunaloire> bparker the game did not crash ..just tifa's spinner would not spin very fast
[18:40] <krytarik> Could y'all please stop with the off-topic chatter in here now?
[18:42] <lagunaloire> krytarik that was a long time ago..and now the linux kernel is in good shape and you can do most of those things on ubuntu today
[18:46] <cry0xen> wheres the official link for snaphub
[18:46] <cry0xen> i mean snap store
[18:47] <tomreyn> do you mean https://snapcraft.io/store ?
[18:48] <cry0xen> if its the canonical official snap store yes. i am looking for a snap app called hornyjokes
[18:48] <cry0xen> sorry cornyjokes
[18:50] <lagunaloire> cry0xen why do you want to clutter up people's terminals where they are trying to do most of their work...that idea is worse than the clippy monstrosity on microsoft word
[18:53] <lagunaloire> cry0xen  i would leave games, jokes, movies, etc..as separate apps that don't interfere with the purpose of other apps
[18:55] <cry0xen> i dont use linux for work. its not productive for my career. i was just curious about it. secondly, i wanted to check if it was available in snap store. it is. its also available through terminal. but gnome software doesnt have it
[18:56] <lagunaloire> cry0xen well i think you are better off with devoted screenspace for the app you are focusing on rather than cluttering it up
[18:57] <lagunaloire> cry0xen why don't you use linux for work...is it because you constantly have to keep updating it
[18:57] <cry0xen> tomreyn is this natural for snap apps not being present gnome software despite being available in snapstore
[18:59] <tomreyn> cry0xen: i think gnome software doesn't support snaps, or not out of the box.
[18:59] <cry0xen> not even on xubuntu?
[19:00] <tomreyn> maybe yo are actually referring to ubuntu-software? that's a fork of gnome software with added snap support (and a snap itself).
[19:01] <tomreyn> i mean snap-store: https://snapcraft.io/snap-store
[19:02] <cry0xen> yeah. ubuntu software. shouldnt it show a snapstore app whn i search?
[19:02] <tomreyn> when i wrote "ubuntu-software" i actually meant "snap-store"
[19:08] <guesswhat> hey, anyone is running ubuntu on dell latitude 9430 2in1 ? does 2in1 even work in ubuntu ?
[19:08] <lagunaloire> guesswhat what is 2 in 1
[19:09] <guesswhat> lagunaloire convertible
[19:10] <guesswhat> seems that 9430 is certified https://ubuntu.com/certified/202203-29999, problem is that it has 2in1 option and clam shell option ( classic laptop ), not sure which one is certified :D
[19:10] <lagunaloire> guesswhat...convertible? ha ha ...i still don't understand...it just takes the top off of something...like a car convertible
[19:11] <lagunaloire> guesswhat what is it certified for or able to do
[19:11] <realrandom> try it and see
[19:11] <realrandom> with live usb
[19:12] <lagunaloire> guesswhat yes you could boot the live ubuntu cd and see if it works and if it does you can make room to install it
[19:13] <lagunaloire> guesswhat but i still don't know what a convertible is
[19:13] <realrandom> i think it flips over to tablet mode
[19:14] <lagunaloire> realrandom what is the difference between a tablet or a laptop except the weight
[19:15] <rfm> I'm getting "BADSIG" errors downloading from security.ubuntu.com jammy-security ( apt output in https://termbin.com/ovf0 ).  Happens on several machines running xubuntu 22.10.  Every suggestion for fixing these errors I find still depends on apt-key, which no longer can be right (and should never be for the ubuntu archive anyway). What, if anything, should I do? Presumably I'm getting the updated packages via jammy-updates from my local mirror...
[19:16] <tomreyn> !22.10 | rfm
[19:16] <rfm> arg, "22.10^22.04^,
[19:17] <rfm> (This are *not* kinetic installs, which wouldn't be getting stuff from jammy-security anyway....)
[19:24] <jhutchins> lagunaloire: If you want to see decoding errors, try launching VLC from the command line.  (Useful trick for most GUI programs).
[19:24] <tomreyn> rfm: hmm, the signature matches the key at /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ubuntu-keyring-2018-archive.gpg for me, but there's always a chance something is interfering with your (plain) http traffic
[19:27] <dagur_> aye
[19:31] <lagunaloire> jhutchins ok i will remember that ..thanks for the tip
[19:38] <rfm> tomreyn, in fact it was a bad copy in my apt-cache (which all the affected machines use..
[19:41] <tomreyn> rfm: ah, glad you worked it out.
[19:47] <lagunaloire> and since the linux kernel has improved...now most of the games available on win95/98 will work on ubuntu...but i have not checked the new Lucas type game called Tales of Monkey Island..so i don't know if that one works on ubuntu
[19:48] <lagunaloire> i did notice that pcsx2 doesn't work for me personally on ubuntu whereas it works on windows using the same hardware
[19:49] <lagunaloire> for final fantasy x and x-2
[19:49] <lagunaloire> the story of yuna and lenne
[19:50] <lagunaloire> cry0xen maybe that is why you don't use ubuntu for work purposes
[19:55] <lagunaloire> rosa,maria,tifa,aeris,rydia,quistis,rhinoa, yuna,lenne,serah, lightning, all interesting stories of choice women..so ubuntu needs to be fixed here..someday...just look at the iranian women that are fed up with being mistreated and sick of wearing hijabs..they want to feel their hair blowing in the wind
[19:55] <lagunaloire> oh and yuffie too
[19:56] <lagunaloire> can you blame women for wanting to live and to feel their beautiful hair blowing freely in the wind
[19:58] <lagunaloire> and i forgot to mention the lovely terra and her story and also princess garnet and her story too
[19:58] <lagunaloire> and of course lara croft's many stories
[20:07] <cry0xen> tomreyn: I pmed you my snap issue
[20:09] <tomreyn> cry0xen: sorry, i don't do support by PM. that's what this channel is for.
[20:18] <cry0xen> i am gonna do a fresh install after 22.10 so nvm
[20:18] <cry0xen> https://i.imgur.com/HHHfVvf.png
[20:19] <cry0xen> https://litter.catbox.moe/1w6nn4.png
[20:21] <cry0xen> I am facing this 2 issue. i am looking through google for solution. these are nothing major however irritating me past 2 days
[20:23] <tomreyn> cry0xen: would you mind describing the issues you're facing / trying to solve textually?
[20:25] <cry0xen> first one is i see few snap in snapstore, can install snap from terminal but they dont show up in software
[20:26] <oerheks> maybe the sap name is different from the app name.. what snap exactly?
[20:27] <cry0xen> scondly when i click view in desktop store(mozilla>snapstore>view in desktop store), software says failed to install: not supported
[20:27] <cry0xen> cornyjokes for example
[20:28] <cry0xen> so i think something is wrong with my software in regards to snap
[20:29] <tomreyn> sudo snap remove snap-store && sudo snap install snap-store    supposedly helps when snap-store gets out of sync / behaves badly.
[20:32] <cry0xen> i dont have snap-store installed
[20:32] <cry0xen> now that i notice, my software isnt showing snaps :(
[20:33] <cry0xen> only flatpak and deb
[20:33] <oerheks> ubuntu software shows installed snaps.. but i do not understand 'mozilla>snapstore>view in desktop store'
[20:35] <cry0xen> https://litter.catbox.moe/1w6nn4.png
[20:35] <cry0xen> i clicked view in desktop store. from official snap website in firefox browser
[20:37] <oerheks> oh that is a firefox issue, just copy the install line
[20:38] <cry0xen> thnx
[20:47] <cry0xen> oerheks tomreyn solved the issue by installing a plugin: gnome-software-plugin-snap
[20:47] <cry0xen> sudo apt install gnome-software-plugin-snap
[20:52] <tomreyn> i see, so you're using gnome-software instead of snap-store.
[22:38] <Guest69> Hi. I'm wondering if anyone is familiar with something called jigdo. The Debian docs - https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ - say it should be available in Ubuntu, but I'm unable to locate it with apt.
[22:40] <Habbie> !info jigdo
[22:40] <Guest69> Ah, great. I love the Debian docs so much. Always so useful.
[22:40] <Guest69> Thanks, Habbie.
[22:41] <Habbie> !info jigdo-file
[22:41] <Habbie> there you go
[22:41] <Habbie> that's what's it called on debian too
[22:41] <Habbie> *it's
[22:41] <Guest69> In component universe, is extra. Okay, what exactly does this mean?
[22:41] <Guest69> Is this why I can't locate jidgo-file with 'apt search'?
[22:41] <Habbie> yes, perhaps you don't have universe enabled in your sources.list
[22:42] <Habbie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[22:42] <Guest69> And people say that Ubuntu is the easy to use distro. I miss arch.
[22:44] <murmel> Guest69: lol, so changing your defaults (repo) and then complaining that ubuntu is hard xD
[22:45] <Guest69> I personally think that a message that the user needs to enable some repo would be nice if the user searches for a package that's in a disabled repo, but I guess it's just better to show them nothing and assume they know how Ubuntu works
[22:46] <murmel> Guest69: how should it know that that package exists?
[22:46] <murmel> btw, this also doesn't work on arch
[22:46] <murmel> and ubuntu already makes it easy http://paste.debian.net/1257205/
[22:47] <murmel> and I really wonder why you would disable default repos, i mean it doesn't hurt to have them active (and no packages installed from that)
[22:48] <Guest69> oh, neat, that looks like a cool feature that could be added to ubuntu :)
[22:48] <Guest69> here is what I see:
[22:48] <murmel> Guest69: this is ubuntu oO
[22:48] <Guest69> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ apt search jidgo-file
[22:48] <Guest69> Sorting... Done
[22:48] <Guest69> Full Text Search... Done
[22:48] <Guest69> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[22:48] <murmel> Guest69: don't spam
[22:48] <murmel> as I said, how should apt know about a package, which is not in the repos (which _every_ package manager has the issue)
[22:49] <murmel> even your beloved arch
[22:49] <Guest69> hmmm idk. but I didn't disable any repos - this is the default in your live image
[22:50] <murmel> oh, yeah live image doesn't have universe active, as it's assumed that you only install ubuntu and/or you know what you are doing, same with with arch live
[22:50] <Guest69> neat
[22:51] <murmel> and i mean arch doesn't have aur "active" on the live image, so do I complain?
[22:51] <Guest69> aur is build scripts, not packages
[22:51] <Guest69> idk, complain if you want
[22:51] <murmel> Guest69: sure, but ppl on the internet hail the aur, and even try to bring it to the debian world, for whatever reason
[23:58] <cybertek> hello, how do you switch from Network Manager to /etc/network/interfaces ?