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retrosenatorcybertek: i delete network manager00:02
cybertekI did a "apt-get install linux-generic-hwe-20.04" and now the video is glitchy any way to fix that?00:09
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xrandrHello. I am trying to mount an apple APFS partition. Ive downloaded fsapfsmount, but I get errors saying unable to initialize decryption context.00:13
xrandrJust wondering if anyone has ever gotten that error before00:17
cyberteknow I have this "A start job is running for Raise network interfaces" when I boot and I can't ctrl-c it, anyone help?00:20
retrosenatorkillall00:28
cybertekjust had to wait 5 minutes and it came back up, but commented out everythingg in /etc/network/interfaces and that fixed it00:30
oerheks!netplan00:38
ubottuNetplan is a network configuration abstraction renderer which uses YAML descriptions of a network to work with either a NetworkManager or Systemd-networkd "renderer". More information at https://netplan.io/00:38
oerheksediting  /etc/network/interfaces is the old way00:39
cybertekoh thanks, trying to get an ip address via dhcp for openvswitch at startup, wonder if I can use netplan for that or not00:43
oerheks3 examples, https://www.molnar-peter.hu/en/openvswitch-and-network-config-ubuntu-18-04-netplan-ifupdown-systemd-networkd.html00:47
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diceLibrarianhello.02:12
diceLibrarianuhh one moment02:13
diceLibrarianalright02:14
polo_hi02:14
diceLibrarianweird question: Kubuntu 22.04; HP EliteDesk 800; Two KVM switches, one for VGA, one for DVI; is it normal for my 1280x1024 VGA display to change its resolution to 1024x768 at complete random, or for the OS to completely stop recognizing the DVI display?02:17
VMGuy23What GPU? [Collecting info: I do not know how to solve your problem, but am collecting info to help others.]02:19
diceLibrarianintegrated02:19
diceLibrarianit's 7 inches by 7 inches by 1 inch02:19
diceLibrarianno PCIE slots for a GPU02:20
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blackhawkCan ubuntu be controlled entirely remotely like rasberrypi using vnc ?04:19
ravageBlackhawk: https://linuxhint.com/enable-remote-desktop-ubuntu-access-from-windows/04:22
matsamanblackhawk: sure04:23
matsamanraspberrypi is hardware04:23
matsamanthe OS is usually something Debian based04:23
matsamanUbuntu is literally Debian04:23
blackhawkthank you, let me look into that ravage04:23
blackhawki get that mastsman, any debian based os should do that04:23
matsamanand any GNU/Linux04:23
matsamanand honestly, if you like pain, you can setup & use VNC on any other OS of note, too04:24
pikapikahi owo06:07
pikapikaare there any package persons here06:07
pikapika'maxima' installs gnuplot-x11 along with it06:07
pikapikawhich apt says conflicts with gnuplot-qt which is what came with the normal gnuplot I had installed previously06:08
pikapikaso it removes the qt client06:08
pikapikaand installed the x11 client06:08
pikapikawhich, uh, is a bit less featureful and I am finding it crashing sometimes too06:08
pikapikaso I manually installed gnuplot-qt and it again displaced gnuplot-x11 instead06:08
pikapikawill that cause issues?06:08
pikapikacan I just uninstall maxima and reinstall a cli only version06:09
pikapikaI didn't even know maxima had gui parts, I only need the cli part06:09
pikapikaI use normal gnuplot anyways for plotting06:09
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lotuspsychjepikapika: on my jammy side maxima wants to install; gnuplot-data gnuplot-x11 liblua5.4-0 maxima-share06:45
retrosenatormaxima is so old06:45
retrosenatorlisp from the 80s06:45
pikapika gnuplot-x1106:45
pikapikathats the one06:45
pikapikait displaced my gnuplot-qt06:46
pikapikado you think its safe to uninstall maxima and reinstall with only cli version06:46
pikapikaaskubuntu says if we pass the no optinal or recommended flags to apt it won't install the guis06:46
lotuspsychjepikapika: are you using external ppa's of any kind?06:46
pikapikano06:46
pikapikastandard ubuntu06:46
pikapikaretrosenator, whats a good free symbolic math package06:47
retrosenatori dont know lol06:48
pikapikarequirement is it should be good at algebraic manipulations and basic calculus06:48
retrosenatorits just old06:48
pikapikaretrosenator, have you used maxima before?06:48
retrosenatorlike 15 years ago06:48
retrosenatorand it was old then06:48
pikapikamaxima often fails to solve some simple stuff like biquadratics06:48
pikapikaso I'd like something thats more powerful at symbolic math anyways06:48
retrosenatoryeah i used cracked maple to solve06:48
retrosenatori think wolfram mathmatica is available online via web browser?06:49
retrosenatorat least they ship this on raspberry pi too06:49
retrosenatorfree to use, dont know about sources06:49
pikapikaretrosenator, I was looking for a local instal because wolfram was being a dick06:50
pikapikait often deliberately misinterprets stuff to try to force you to purchase06:50
retrosenatorwell if you used qemu06:53
retrosenatoryou could run raspbian06:53
retrosenatorlol06:53
pikapikahow will raspbian help06:54
pikapikaoh06:54
pikapikainteresting06:54
pikapikaI will have to see06:54
retrosenatorits already installed06:54
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bblinkySo, in leu of having a (sensible) filesystem that is cross platform... Is there a way to share files between my computer and other computers that doesn't require setup from the other partys side?08:24
pikapikabblinky, how much setup do you tolerate08:39
pikapikaI was trying out nfs a few days ago08:39
pikapikait was quite pleasant08:39
pikapikaits a proper file system unlike ssh08:39
bblinkypikapika: As little as possible... I like nfs too, but ifI want to share a file with someone over the networkit kind of breaks the idea of the concept if I have to get up and go and make setup on their computer08:45
pikapikathe ohter person has to do some setup at least08:45
pikapikaotherwise there is no option than emailing tarballs08:45
pikapikaI think08:45
bblinkylol, tarbals... That doesn't sound like something my OSX friends will even be able to pronounce08:46
bblinkyl08:46
pikapikaI just meant any kind of zip solution08:47
bblinkyI know08:47
bblinkyIt's ok.. I'm just moderately fustrated because i found out that exFat won't do on my new external SSD because for some fkn reason virt-manager wont run qcow images stored on exFat drives... Some file permission thing https://paste.rs/4bN08:49
bblinkyI use arch btw, just came in here to rant, and because ubuntu is more ui focused than vanilla08:51
pikapikaUbuntu is a very professional os08:51
bblinkyI agreee08:51
pikapikahtough they are starting to force snaps lately sadly08:51
bblinkyI'm not completely in the loop about snaps actually... How are they different than f.eks. apt packages?08:53
pikapikacompletely different08:53
pikapikathey basically copy almost all the libraries per application08:53
pikapikaand you don't have any standard method to stop them auto updating08:54
pikapikaand due to copying everything, they require much more disk and don't respect the users theme etc08:54
ravageas i dont see any Ubuntu support topic here at all please move the discusstion elsewhere. Thanks.08:54
pikapikasorry08:54
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BluesKajHi all13:08
JanneKropikapika, you should use python notebooks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SdIZHPuW9o&ab_channel=Mr.PSolver13:19
JanneKro@pikapika13:19
giu-hi BluesKaj13:23
arkanoidlol, ok: https://imgur.com/a/4teFEG013:24
BluesKajhi giu-13:24
giu-u know  firefox crashed when open firefox after many second crashed and return this...3608 633113:26
arraybolt3arkanoid: Hmm... ok that's not helpful. If I had to guess, maybe an unattended-upgrades operation or something else apt-related is happening at the same time?13:43
arraybolt3(Also is this Ubuntu Kinetiic?)13:44
arraybolt3s/Kinetiic/Kinetic/13:44
BluesKajmidht be the FF snap version which I avoid14:01
BluesKajmight14:01
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Franki diari della motocicletta14:34
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howudodatI'm trying to figure out where ubuntu/gnome is pulling it's default new user config from.  Desktop/Downloads/Documents etc get created, and other settings, but I cant find where this template is at15:09
EriC^^howudodat: not sure if this is it, but /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults15:16
howudodatEriC^^ yes that's it, thanks15:28
EriC^^howudodat: no problem15:48
howudodatok, follow up questions  (normally I would use .profile and etc/skel, but that doesn't seem to do what I want).  it's not just directories, but first login is creating files and default settings. (ie: home folder shown on desktop, background, favorites in the dock).  Is all this in one central location like /etc/skel or scattered all over?15:57
howudodatif I login first on shell .profile and my first logon script are working, however if the user logs in first using xrdp and not a terminal then .profile isn't getting called to set things up15:57
xrandrHi. I have a 3 monitor setup. 2 are actual monitors, and one is a TV. Every time I lock the computer, and the TV turns off after a certain amount of time, I cannot get it to come back on as a 3rd display. If I reboot, it will come back. I am running Ubuntu 22.04 with the nVidia proprietary drivers (470)16:28
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KimonoGirl1818Hi guys17:12
schuelermine[m]Does anybody know how Ubuntu manages to theme GDM without swapping out /usr/share/gnome-shell/gnome-shell-theme.gresource? I’ve checked that file and it’s stock GNOME…18:35
Frosty126schuelermine[m] According to https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/gdm.8.html, it reads /etc/gdm/custom.conf for its config, it's likely that the file is defined there18:48
schuelermine[m]<Frosty126> "schuelermine According to https:..." <- literally all lines in that file are commented out18:57
schuelermine[m]s/literally/almost/18:57
borked2022is this thing on?18:58
matsamanborked2022: 'fraid so18:58
borked2022matsaman, thanks18:58
borked2022anybody good with zfs and boot issues? this is my issue https://askubuntu.com/questions/1435307/booting-to-emergency-mode-after-20-04-5-focal-to-22-04-jammy-upgrade18:59
matsamannever did find a reason to use zfs19:00
borked2022matsaman, yea I'm regretting is right now19:00
matsamanborked2022: well19:01
matsamanborked2022: if it only shows the old version, first step is to confirm you actually upgraded, and then fix grub so it shows the new version19:01
matsamansomething like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair maybe19:01
schuelermine[m] * almost all lines in that file are commented out and it doesn’t mention “theme” or “yaru” ever19:02
Frosty126<schuelermine[m]> try listing /etc/gdm/19:02
borked2022matsaman, I was considering that, but that tool doesn't say anything about supporting zfs setups19:03
matsamanwell, againn, from your post, your boot loader isn't even listing an upgraded install19:03
matsamanso ZFS is not the issue, yet19:03
matsamanif it listed an upgraded install and spat out some FS error, maybe then19:04
borked2022matsaman, did you see the bottom of this ? https://ibb.co/R7FnZpm19:05
matsamannope, what is it?19:06
matsamanemergency mode from the old one?19:06
borked2022matsaman, bpool not mounting19:07
matsamanhow much data have you got on it?19:07
borked2022matsaman, on bpool?19:08
matsamanon the ZFS19:08
borked2022matsaman, sda disk 931.5G Samsung SSD 860 QVO 1TB (just under half full)19:10
borked2022sda1 part 512M vfat (bios boot?)19:10
borked2022sda2 part 1K19:10
borked2022sda5 part 2G zfs_member (bpool) sda6 part 927G zfs_member (rpool)19:10
borked2022matsaman, did I understand your question?19:11
matsamanyeah19:11
schuelermine[m]Frosty126: I did, and I ripgrepped through that directory for “theme” or “yaru” but only commented-out lines showed up19:11
matsamana really simple boring way if you aren't invested in ZFS would be to grab another drive, back it all up, and reinstall without using ZFS19:12
matsamanyou'd still have to figure out how to mount your ZFS from a live OS, of course19:12
matsamanbut that shouldn't be as much work19:12
borked2022matsaman, I've already mounted it from liveUSB but I was hoping to get it back because I have way too much customized stuff on there right now19:12
borked2022matsaman, migrating to another ubuntu system on btrfs or whatever FS would be much easier for me if it is running normally19:15
borked2022matsaman, not gonna lie, I'm also really curious how/why an upgrade went so badly19:15
Frosty126<schuelermine[m]> Looking at the service file it would appear that it uses the /usr/share/gdm/dconf/ directory to get config files, try listing that directory19:18
borked2022matsaman, I'm trying boot-repair, it asks "if needed, type sudo zfs load-key -a in a terminal" ; is this in case zfs is encrypted or..?19:19
schuelermine[m]OK19:21
schuelermine[m]Frosty126: still no hits for `rg -i "yaru|theme"`19:29
Frosty126<schuelermine[m]> I can't find anywhere else they might be so you may wan't to look at the manual: https://help.gnome.org/admin/gdm/stable/index.html.en19:32
matsamanborked2022: looks like it19:36
borked2022https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7KdpyWxg53/19:37
borked2022matsaman, I don't think the T410 is capable of UEFI boot so can I ignore that and run the boot repair anyway?19:37
borked2022don't see anything EFI related in the bios19:38
matsamancan't see that paste because it's behind some kind of idiot login system =P19:38
matsamanI would expect boot repair to work with either UEFI or more traditional & sensible systems, yes19:38
schuelermine[m]Frosty126: AFAIK GDM doesn’t officially support themes19:47
borked2022matsaman, their suggestion is unclear https://hastebin.com/uzeriqifik.sql19:51
borked2022matsaman, I ran it anyway and clearly the tool is only intended for UEFI systems19:57
borked2022https://hastebin.com/awukidabul.sql19:59
EriC^^borked2022: not really20:00
EriC^^can you pastebin 'sudo parted -ls'20:00
EriC^^probably you have an efi partition and so that's why it wants you to boot in uefi compatible mode, to be able to access the uefi entries20:00
borked2022https://hastebin.com/qoxayeposa.apache20:01
EriC^^yup, you have an efi partition20:02
EriC^^what's the problem you're having with booting?20:02
borked2022EriC^^, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1435307/booting-to-emergency-mode-after-20-04-5-focal-to-22-04-jammy-upgrade20:03
schuelermine[m]Do you know how to read GVariant database files?20:03
schuelermine[m]I’m thinking there might be some info in /var/lib/gdm3/greeter-dconf-defaults20:03
EriC^^borked2022: do you have the rootfs mounted right now?20:05
borked2022EriC^^, sorry I got disconnected. did I miss anything?20:09
ravage<EriC^^> borked2022: do you have the rootfs mounted right now?20:10
borked2022EriC^^, no but I can20:10
EriC^^ok mount it20:10
borked2022so mount rpool wherever?20:10
EriC^^/mnt20:11
borked2022EriC^^, urm so I ran sudo zpool import rpool20:14
borked2022EriC^^, but I have no idea what I'm doing20:14
EriC^^never used zfs to be honest20:14
borked2022EriC^^, hold on I had it mounted yesterday20:15
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EriC^^ok20:18
borked2022EriC^^, I think it is mounted but not in /mnt20:21
EriC^^where's it mounted?20:22
borked2022the installer created a bunch of mountpoints20:22
arraybolt3borked2022: Try using "lsblk".20:22
borked2022mount shows "rpool/ROOT/ubuntu_uxtu99 on / type zfs" for instance20:23
borked2022lsblk doesn't show any mountpoints20:24
borked2022except the loop mounted liveUSB20:24
borked2022EriC^^, you want a pastebin of the mount output?20:25
EriC^^sure20:26
ravageborked2022, zpool import -f rpool -R /mnt20:26
ravageshould import that whole thing in /mnt20:26
ravageand then20:26
ravagezpool import -f bpool -R /mnt/boot20:26
ravageshould add the boot stuff20:26
ravagewith that chroot i gope EriC^^ can work :)20:27
borked2022ravage, thanks but it is complaining I already imported it. how to I unimport without rebooting?20:27
ravage*hope20:27
ravageexport it20:27
ravageif you also have an EFI partition and you need to use it then you may have to mount that too20:28
ravagehttps://develmonk.com/2022/05/20/mount-ubuntu-22-04-zfs-partitions-using-live-iso-for-disaster-recovery/20:28
borked2022ravage, apparently I do so thanks again20:29
Macwinnerif you apt-get install package=version,  does that prevent the package from getting updated if you run "apt upgrade" ?20:31
borked2022urm, so that efi is sda1?20:31
ravageMacwinner, no20:31
EriC^^Macwinner: i doubt, you need apt-mark hold <package> after installing it20:32
Macwinnerravage: what's the correct way of pinning a package version to prevent updates? just migrating our old centos infra over to Ubuntu, so getting the hang of thing20:32
morgan-hpIs there any problem with a laptop bluetooth? I have a speaker that works well with my android. I have it connected. It is a JBL speaker. BUT, the sound is still coming out of the laptop. 22.04 HP Probook.20:32
MacwinnerEriC^^: awesome, thanks!20:32
borked2022EriC^^, please confirm you were wanting me to do what ravage said?20:33
borked2022sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi ?20:33
EriC^^borked2022: yes sure20:39
borked2022EriC^^, that fails with mountpoint doesn't exist20:39
EriC^^borked2022: where is the rootfs at right now?20:40
borked2022 /mnt/20:40
borked2022(rpool)20:40
EriC^^ok, run the 2nd command to monut the boot pool(?)20:40
borked2022bpool is mounted to /mnt/boot/20:40
EriC^^*mount20:40
EriC^^aha20:40
EriC^^what's in /mnt/boot?20:41
borked2022now efi should be sda1 right?20:41
borked2022small fat32 partition?20:41
EriC^^also what's in 'cat /mnt/etc/fstab' ?20:41
EriC^^yes20:41
borked2022couple things, boot folder, initrd.img20:42
matsamanborked2022: wow, pretty silly20:42
EriC^^borked2022: type 'ls -l /mnt/boot | nc termbin.com 9999'20:42
EriC^^paste the link it gives you here20:42
borked2022fstab has 2 lines20:42
borked202269k020:43
EriC^^also 'cat /mnt/etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999'20:43
EriC^^ty20:43
borked2022nifty20:44
EriC^^!info linux-generic jammy20:44
ubottulinux-generic (5.15.0.50.50, jammy): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Built by linux-meta. Size 2 kB / 20 kB. (Only available for amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x.)20:44
EriC^^i feel like something is messed up borked2022 , the kernel is ...15 whereas current jammy is .5020:45
EriC^^i mean .25 in /boot20:45
EriC^^i wonder what's in /boot/boot, "ls -l /boot/boot | nc termbin.com 9999"20:45
borked2022EriC^^, I concur but don't know what to do about it20:45
EriC^^borked2022: what does cat /mnt/etc/issue show btw?20:46
borked2022I think u meant /mnt/boot/boot20:46
borked2022zs4gy20:47
EriC^^yes, my bad20:47
borked2022https://termbin.com/u8mx20:48
borked2022boot/boot looks like the focal kernel?20:48
EriC^^yeah i think so20:49
borked2022upgrade really shat the bed20:49
EriC^^!info linux-generic focal20:49
ubottulinux-generic (5.4.0.128.129, focal): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Built by linux-meta. Size 2 kB / 19 kB. (Only available for amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x.)20:49
borked2022please tell me we can fix it20:49
EriC^^lastly, type "(dpkg -l | grep grub; cat /mnt/etc/fstab) | nc termbin.com 9999"20:49
EriC^^pretty sure it's fixable, if we dont manage to im sure someone who knows more about zfs can help, we'll give it a shot though20:50
borked2022b2g220:50
EriC^^bad link20:51
EriC^^ah my bad20:51
ravagethats my bootetd system: https://p.haxxors.com/28b9kso6.txt20:52
EriC^^ravage: what's your fstab look like?20:53
ravageso i guess as long as you have grub and efi mounted you should be fine20:53
EriC^^he seems to only have the efi partition, and some other uuid is commented out20:53
ravagehttps://p.haxxors.com/gn0pyp9t.txt20:53
EriC^^nevermind, its swap20:53
borked2022hold on, the efi is not currently mounted20:54
EriC^^borked2022: yeah 1 sec20:54
EriC^^ravage: this line seems i dunno, /boot/efi/grub/boot/grubnonedefaults,bind0020:54
ravageit was added by the installer. no idea :)20:55
EriC^^ok :D20:56
borked2022*drunk installer?20:56
EriC^^must be right, just dunno much about zfs blackmagic20:56
borked2022I thought I was being cautious sticking to LTS meh20:57
ravagealso my ZFS is encrypted but i dont think this makes much difference20:57
borked2022this is NOT encrypted20:57
borked2022(just for clarity)20:57
EriC^^borked2022: try 'mkdir /mnt/boot/efi'20:58
EriC^^then type 'for i in /dev /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -R $i /mnt$i; done'20:58
borked2022"sudo mkdir /mnt/boot/efi" worked20:59
EriC^^ok great20:59
borked2022and then mounting it worked20:59
EriC^^ok20:59
EriC^^mm20:59
RoeyHello.  Can someone please help me with a bluetooth issue?  The modprobe command hangs when I run 'sudo modprobe btusb'.  This started happening after I ran apt-get dist-upgrade yesterday to catch up to the newest kernel/libs20:59
EriC^^try the for loop, then type 'sudo chroot /mnt'20:59
borked2022do you mind if I switch to irc on the liveUSB so I can copy pasta your commands?21:00
borked2022gimme a second please21:00
EriC^^ok, np21:00
borked2022for i in /dev /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -R $i /mnt$i; done21:02
borked2022the2ndEriC^^, OK21:04
borked2022the2ndi've entered chroot21:04
EriC^^borked2022the2nd: great21:04
Jeremy31Roey: post URL from terminal for> (lsusb; sudo dmesg | egrep -i 'blue|firm') | nc termbin.com 999921:05
EriC^^i wonder what 'mount /boot/grub' would do borked2022the2nd21:05
borked2022the2ndno error21:05
borked2022the2ndshows up in mount21:05
EriC^^borked2022the2nd: ok, try first, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade21:06
RoeyJeremy31: oh lsbusb hangs for some reason21:06
EriC^^i'm installing zfs in a vm right now, can compare results21:06
EriC^^for the grub / boot stuff21:07
RoeyJeremy31: I get this from dmesg -21:07
borked2022the2ndrpool isn't at risk here?21:07
borked2022the2ndI'm recognizing the mirrors I had configured but with jammy tacke don21:09
EriC^^borked2022the2nd: not sure what you mean21:09
EriC^^borked2022the2nd: what's the output of 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999'21:10
Jeremy31Roey: Might be a lot of other issues if lsusb hangs21:10
borked2022the2ndEriC^^, it wants to remove some no longer required packages21:10
borked2022the2ndhttps://termbin.com/l79wj21:10
borked2022the2ndEriC^^, I interrupted the apt-get command at the y/n prompt to run the command u asked21:12
borked2022the2nddo you still want me to rerun it?21:13
EriC^^nah hold that thought, try "tail -n+1 -v /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"21:13
borked2022the2ndsince the sources are clearly not right?21:13
EriC^^yeah they're all commented out and wrong oddly21:13
borked2022the2ndhttps://termbin.com/kvdy21:14
RoeyJeremy31: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cJRGtgykHT/21:14
RoeyJeremy31: that's bluetooth in dmesg's output.21:14
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borked2022the2ndEriC^^, the upgrade usually removes all of those 3rd party ppas no?21:15
EriC^^borked2022the2nd: not really, it might disable the ppa though21:15
EriC^^borked2022the2nd: it looks like it's getting the jammy repos from something to do with 'nala'21:16
borked2022the2ndnala is a frontend for apt but I don't see where you are referencing21:17
EriC^^anyways if you feel like apt-get dist-upgrade makes sense continue with it21:17
EriC^^it's this file, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nala-sources.list21:18
Jeremy31Roey: in terminal>  cd /lib/firmware/brcm && sudo wget https://github.com/winterheart/broadcom-bt-firmware/raw/master/brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd21:18
Jeremy31Then reboot21:18
borked2022the2ndnala was not used for the do-release-upgrade whatever21:18
RoeyJeremy31: interesting, there is no "bcrm" in /lib/firmware21:19
RoeyJeremy31: why might that be?21:19
borked2022the2ndEriC^^, ok, trying again..21:19
EriC^^ok21:19
Jeremy31Roey: It is brcm not bcrm21:20
borked2022the2ndwhats this ubuntu pro beta adds on the cli now..?21:21
borked2022the2nd*ads21:21
Jeremy31I suspect you have a USB dongle and this isn't part of a wifi chip Roey21:21
Roey Jeremy31 oh!21:21
RoeyJeremy31: oh I absolutely do have a Bluetooth dongle21:21
RoeyJeremy31: yeah you're right21:21
borked2022the2ndEriC^^,21:22
AstroGhostHello!21:22
Jeremy31Roey: It has the same ID as an IoGear BT device I have21:22
borked2022the2ndit finished quickly and the only erors are regarding search-engines in gnome schema something21:22
RoeyJeremy31: Jeremy31 aye21:22
borked2022the2ndreboot?21:22
RoeyJeremy31: so now just to reboot, you say?21:22
RoeyI mean this worked before21:22
EriC^^borked2022the2nd: hmm, what's dpkg -l | grep linux-generic give?21:22
Roeyafter runnign apt-get dist-upgrade it stopped working.  I wonder why.21:22
borked2022the2ndEriC^^, nothing ran grub related or anything21:22
RoeyJeremy31: ^21:23
AstroGhostAnyone know if changing keybinds is possible without a reboot or logout?21:23
EriC^^is it .50 now? is there a new .50 kernel in /boot borked2022the2nd ?21:23
Jeremy31Roey: reboot21:23
borked2022the2nd5.15.0.25.2721:23
EriC^^that's in dpkg?21:23
borked2022the2ndwait, only one line and they are headers21:24
borked2022the2ndwtf21:24
RoeyJeremy31: will BRB21:24
EriC^^borked2022the2nd: odd, try apt-get install --reinstall linux-{image,headers}-generic linux-generic21:24
borked2022the2ndhttps://termbin.com/tzkq21:25
Jeremy31Roey: ok, it might not work as my USB BT works fine21:25
borked2022the2ndEriC^^, no change in the dpkg grep output21:26
borked2022the2ndthe command ran way to fast to have reinstalled kernels I think21:26
borked2022the2ndhttps://termbin.com/0mma21:26
EriC^^borked2022the2nd: what does 'apt-cache policy linux-image-generic' give you for candidate?21:28
borked2022the2ndEriC^^, https://termbin.com/lh8zm21:29
WeeBeyhello. Question, y'all pretty much use Wayland as default, right?21:29
borked2022the2ndthose are typical mirrors I'm used to seeing21:29
ravageEriC^^, maybe he should rename his full sources directory and start with a default jammy one? and then add back the PPAs he really needs?21:30
EriC^^ravage: yeah, good idea21:31
borked2022the2ndravage, I have no problem doing that but I'm not sure how to propulate the defaults21:31
EriC^^borked2022the2nd: type "mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nala-sources.list{,.old}"21:31
EriC^^i can give you my list21:32
borked2022the2ndincidentally, we can remove nala if you think it has anything to do with the problem (I doubt it)21:32
ravagehttps://p.haxxors.com/15su9jfs.txt21:32
ravagethis is my current jammy list21:32
ravagei guess you could remove some stuff but nothing in there should ne hurtful21:33
WeeBeyReason I ask is because I noticed my screenshot apps were crashing and not working. Then the mouse stopped working on a VM and then also on apps in ubuntu. Eventually I realized that I had set it to Wayland instead of Xorg. So, I'm wondering if Wayland is this problematic with people that use it by defaul.t21:33
ravageWeeBey, i use Xorg because Wayland causes multiple problems for me21:33
borked2022the2ndgot it, I just put that in /etc/apt/sources.list21:34
borked2022the2ndthanks21:34
EriC^^borked2022the2nd: great, type 'apt-get update'21:34
EriC^^then apt-cache policy linux-generic21:34
EriC^^hopefully it shows .5021:34
borked2022the2ndnote: there is a line that says"N: Ignoring file 'nala-sources.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension"21:35
ravagethats ok for now21:36
borked2022the2ndhttps://termbin.com/czwng21:36
ravagemuch better :)21:36
borked2022the2nd Candidate: 5.15.0.50.50 promissing?21:36
ravageEriC^^, is everything mounted so he could just try a full-upgrade now?21:37
borked2022the2ndmount > https://termbin.com/fp0z021:38
EriC^^yup ravage21:38
ravageok so "apt full-upgrade" it is. may show a lot of packages. maybe paste it before you hit "y"21:39
borked2022the2ndthe fact that sda1 is mounted on both /boot/efi and /boot/grub is irrelevant?21:40
borked2022the2ndEriC^^, ravage,?21:41
ravagethat sounds like a question for EriC^^ but it looks a little strange. i did not know you can actually do that21:42
ravageoh21:43
EriC^^borked2022the2nd: i think that's normal cause it seems in fstab the installer puts a mount bind like that21:43
ravagethats just the bind21:43
ravage^^21:43
RoeyJeremy31: hello21:43
ravageso seems fine. go for it :)21:43
borked2022the2ndok...21:43
Jeremy31Roey: hello21:43
RoeySo I rebooted; it still does not connect.  Output of dmesg here:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/55rQSTvNdW/21:44
RoeyJeremy31: ^21:46
borked2022the2ndEriC^^, is the hypothesis that something was interrupted midway but the do-release-upgrade still acted like everything finished fine?21:46
borked2022the2ndI don't get it21:47
EriC^^i have no idea, honestly, hoping to get the packages up to date, then reinstall grub and see what happens21:47
Jeremy31Roey: try in terminal> sudo cp /lib/firmware/brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd /lib/firmware/brcm/BCM-0a5c-21e8.hcd21:48
borked2022EriC^^, I swear, there wasn't the slightest hint that anything had gone wrong until grub menu showed 20.04 still and then haveway through bootup it dumped me in emergency more21:48
RoeyJeremy31: $ sudo cp -i /lib/firmware/brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd /lib/firmware/brcm/BCM-0a5c-21e8.hcd21:49
Roeycp: cannot stat '/lib/firmware/brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd': No such file or directory21:49
borked2022*mode21:49
Roey$ ls /lib/firmware/bcrm/21:49
RoeyBCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd21:49
Jeremy31Roey: try in terminal> sudo cp /lib/firmware/bcrm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd /lib/firmware/brcm/BCM-0a5c-21e8.hcd21:49
RoeyJeremy31: ok, that copied successfully21:50
RoeyJeremy31: reboot again?21:50
Jeremy31Roey: unplug the dongle for a few seconds then plug back in21:50
Roeyok21:51
EriC^^borked2022: i believe you, honestly this zfs booting is so darn weird, trying it in a vm right now21:52
RoeyJeremy31: HEY IT WORKS!!!!!!!21:55
Roeythanks!21:55
Jeremy31Roey: Good, what kernel are you using?21:55
RoeyJeremy31: output of dmesg once I unplugged it and re-plugged it, and of course did the cp command as you specified:21:55
RoeyJeremy31: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vp8v9HjbRp/21:55
RoeyJeremy31: $ uname -a21:56
RoeyLinux gear 5.15.0-50-generic #56-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 20 13:23:26 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux21:56
borked2022the2ndEriC^^,  update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-5.15.0-50-generic21:56
EriC^^nice21:56
EriC^^borked2022the2nd: try 'grub-install' once it's done21:56
RoeyJeremy31: so evidently it's using that  BCM driver now.21:56
borked2022the2ndEriC^^, 99%21:57
EriC^^also might as well run 'grub-install --target=i386-pc /dev/sda' as well21:57
Jeremy31Roey: Ok, it is actually a firmware file but I have rarely needed to use it myself21:57
borked2022the2ndEriC^^, that will install it to mbr as well as efi?21:58
borked2022the2ndor just mbr?21:58
Jeremy31Roey: It only seems to help with Bluetooth audio from what I remember from years ago21:58
borked2022the2ndor am I running both commands?21:58
EriC^^borked2022the2nd: yup running both, first should be efi second mbr21:59
borked2022the2ndEriC^^, well just plain grub-install complains21:59
EriC^^about what21:59
borked2022the2ndgrub-install: error: install device isn't specified.21:59
EriC^^aha21:59
EriC^^try grub-install --target=x86_64-efi22:00
borked2022the2ndjust that or the other one too22:00
borked2022the2nd?22:00
EriC^^only that for now22:00
EriC^^did it work?22:00
borked2022the2ndgrub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory.22:00
EriC^^borked2022the2nd: seems grub is wacky22:01
EriC^^try 'apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-bin grub-efi-amd64-signed22:01
borked2022the2ndstuff happened22:02
borked2022the2ndtry the previous command again?22:02
EriC^^ok, yeah22:02
borked2022the2ndgrub-install --target=x86_64-efi ?22:02
EriC^^kinda odd the file wasnt there tbh22:02
EriC^^yeah22:03
EriC^^dpkg -S shows its part of grub-efi-amd64-bin22:03
borked2022the2ndInstalling for x86_64-efi platform.22:03
borked2022the2ndgrub-install: warning: EFI variables cannot be set on this system.22:03
borked2022the2ndgrub-install: warning: You will have to complete the GRUB setup manually.22:03
borked2022the2ndInstallation finished. No error reported.22:03
EriC^^i think it's not booted in efi mode right now22:03
borked2022the2ndEriC^^, I believe you are correct22:04
borked2022the2ndas a reminder, this is a stinkpad T410 that doesn't do UEFI22:04
EriC^^lol22:04
borked2022the2nd(unless you install coreboot/libreboot...)22:04
borked2022the2ndsupposedly22:04
EriC^^ok give 'grub-install --target=i386-pc /dev/sda' a go22:05
borked2022the2ndthat was a little fast22:05
EriC^^yup22:05
borked2022the2ndInstalling for i386-pc platform.22:05
borked2022the2ndInstallation finished. No error reported.22:05
EriC^^try 'update-grub'22:06
borked2022the2ndseems right22:06
EriC^^honestly i would run 'dpkg -V' for a bit just to see what is up22:06
borked2022the2ndit only complains about os-prober but that is normal with zfs22:06
EriC^^aha soundsgood22:06
EriC^^ok, type 'exit'22:06
EriC^^then try rebooting i guess22:07
borked2022the2nddpkg -V spit out a bunch of missing lines22:07
EriC^^hmm such as22:07
borked2022the2ndstill going...22:07
EriC^^aha22:07
borked2022the2ndI'll run it again and put it in termbin22:08
EriC^^ok22:08
borked2022the2ndif it ever finishes22:08
EriC^^:D22:08
borked2022the2nd /usr/share/locale/.... /usr/share/help22:08
EriC^^ctrl+c it22:08
borked2022the2ndkeeps going22:08
borked2022the2ndu still want to see it? is this bad news?22:09
EriC^^mm mine is just 4 lines, about sudoers and some stuff you'd expect22:09
ravagewith aptitude he could reinstall all packages with "aptitude reinstall '~i'" but i dont know if that is useful22:09
borked2022the2ndoh, it looks like netcat truncated it? https://termbin.com/txubx22:09
borked2022the2nddo you need to see it all?22:10
EriC^^borked2022the2nd: yeah it doesnt sound good, it was odd that grub was missing that file, could be other stuff missing too from other packages :|22:10
EriC^^nah22:10
borked2022the2nddarn, so this install is still garbage?22:10
EriC^^what's the rest actually? anything important looking22:10
EriC^^bo22:10
EriC^^*no22:10
EriC^^seems ok til now22:10
borked2022the2ndum, I'll let it run through22:11
borked2022the2ndmight take a bit22:11
EriC^^if you want do | nc youtubextras.com 4040 to get the full output22:12
EriC^^ill move it to the /www to share the content22:13
borked2022the2ndso stuff in /usr/share/man , /usr/share/locale/, /usr/share/help22:13
borked2022the2ndone line is ??5??????     [tab]       /usr/bin/rclone22:14
borked2022the2ndweird22:14
EriC^^looks fine til now, could just reinstall rclone i guess22:14
borked2022the2ndone line, /lib/modules/5.4.0-26-generic.....??22:14
EriC^^old kernel, who cares :D22:15
borked2022the2ndhelp man and locale so far22:15
RoeyJeremy31: so thank you :)22:15
borked2022the2ndEriC^^,/boot/System.map-5.4.0-24-generic and /boot/config {same}22:16
borked2022the2nd??5?????? c /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic22:17
borked2022the2ndmissing     /usr/share/cups22:17
EriC^^i have that same 10periodic one22:17
borked2022the2ndanother old kernel22:18
EriC^^all looking harmless til now22:18
borked2022the2ndwhat exactly is this telling us?22:18
EriC^^that the install isnt corrupted for sure22:20
EriC^^has it stopped?22:20
borked2022the2ndnever even knew there was that much stuff in locale and man22:20
borked2022the2ndstill going22:20
EriC^^i honestly thought it was a 1min thing22:21
RoeyJeremy31: so anyway, a BIG THANK YOU to you, you really solved my problem :D :D22:21
borked2022the2ndEriC^^, should I stop it?22:21
borked2022the2ndI wonder if we didn't mount something that was needed22:22
EriC^^i say let it continue a bit, even if the system works when you reboot, you kind of want to know it's not screwed in some way22:22
EriC^^nah22:22
borked2022the2ndsince the zfs install makes all of those seperate mounts22:22
EriC^^im right now trying to chroot and grub stuff on this zfs vm, following same guide that was linked above22:22
borked2022the2nd??5?????? c /etc/sysctl.conf             might need this?22:23
borked2022the2ndissing     /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.022:24
borked2022the2ndmissing     /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.022:24
EriC^^sysctl.conf for me is completely commented out22:25
borked2022the2ndmissing     /var/cache/app-info22:25
borked2022the2ndmissing     /var/cache/app-info/xmls22:25
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borked2022the2nd??5?????? c /etc/xdg/xfce4/helpers.rc22:25
borked2022the2ndfinally22:26
borked2022the2ndended22:26
EriC^^yay22:26
borked2022the2ndmy head hurts22:26
EriC^^/var/cache/app-info/xmls is part of the fwupd paackage22:26
EriC^^if you ever want to know which package do dpkg -S /var/cache/app-info/xmls itll show you22:26
EriC^^anyways try typing 'exit' now then reboot to see if it works22:27
EriC^^then i guess tackle any missing stuff22:27
borked2022the2ndok22:27
borked2022the2ndcrossing my fingers22:27
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borked2022EriC^^, well, grub now shows 22.0422:30
borked2022but it still boots to emergency / maintenance mode22:30
borked2022:(22:30
EriC^^hmm22:31
EriC^^what happens if you type 'exit'22:31
EriC^^in the maintenance thing22:31
borked2022EriC^^, thanks for the help so far22:32
borked2022if I exit22:32
borked2022it shows a red line failed to start default target: transaction for graphical.target/start22:32
borked2022is destructive22:32
borked2022emergency.targ has start job queued but stop is included in transaction22:33
borked2022EriC^^, um wait, if I hit E to look at the 22.04.1 LTS line in grub22:35
borked2022it is trying to use an old kernel 5.4.0-3922:35
borked2022EriC^^, you want any info from the journalctl -xb in the emergency terminal?22:37
EriC^^hmm if it looks important22:38
EriC^^try going to 'advanced' in grub and see if you can choose the newer kernel22:38
EriC^^or maybe recovery mode helps somehow?22:38
borked2022EriC^^, tried, no newer kernels avail22:39
paul_hello I am trying to create a symbolic link to a directory22:39
paul_such that if you go to one directory you get to the other22:39
paul_how can I do that?22:39
paul_anyone to assist?22:40
borked2022EriC^^, unsure if this is relevant: systemd-udevd / usr/lib/udev/rules.d/libtvcontrol.rules invalid value /bin/sh -c for I in /sys/bus/usb/drivers/cytherm/$kernel; do echo 'basename'22:41
borked2022EriC^^, same bpool/BOOT/ubuntu_uxtu99 cannot be mounted22:42
arraybolt3The 'any' key?22:43
borked2022you can see the picture in my orginal askubuntu.com post22:43
arraybolt3Oy, wrong channel...22:43
paul_hello?22:43
arraybolt3paul_: o/22:43
borked2022failing to mount /boot22:44
arraybolt3paul_: Pretty sure "ln -s" will do what you want.22:44
borked2022dependency failed for /boot/efi22:44
arraybolt3paul_: ln -s /path/to/directory /path/to/link22:44
borked2022ends with successfully entered the dead state22:45
borked2022gotta love it22:45
borked2022EriC^^, recovery mode?22:47
EriC^^sure why not22:48
borked2022EriC^^, sorry I'm asking what that is22:48
borked2022there isn't an option in grub called recovery mode22:49
arraybolt3borked2022: Select "Advanced Options for Ubuntu" first, then you'll see the recovery mode options.22:50
borked2022EriC^^, oh, yea got it so it puts me into a TUI22:50
borked2022but it doesn't respond22:51
paul_thanks arraybolt3 still didn't figure out the problem but going to leave it for later... thanks good night22:51
borked2022and the emergency mode text is sort of overlayed22:51
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borked2022EriC^^, this is ugly but I sort of can use it, which options should I try?22:52
borked2022it is rendering weird22:52
borked2022EriC^^, nope, not working at all22:53
borked2022arrow key cycles through the history of the commands we ran before reboot, very strange22:54
EriC^^odd22:54
EriC^^im still trying to get this zfs vm to boot xD22:55
EriC^^i run update-grub and it says didnt find any valid kernel, even though both are in /vmlinuz and /boot/vmlinuz....5022:55
borked2022EriC^^, this page seems to show a few different things https://develmonk.com/2022/05/20/mount-ubuntu-22-04-zfs-partitions-using-live-iso-for-disaster-recovery/22:56
borked2022from what we did22:56
borked2022but it is kind of over my head22:57
EriC^^thats the one i was following22:58
EriC^^anyways i guess the problem is the /boot not being empty stuff22:58
EriC^^in your case22:58
borked2022EriC^^, is it possible the upgrade ran the bpool out of space?22:59
borked2022how can I confirm it isn't out of space?22:59
EriC^^borked2022: boot the live usb and try to mount it and see 'df -h /mnt/boot' output23:01
borked2022EriC^^, Any chance you're in here often?23:03
EriC^^yeah23:04
borked2022any particular times I could find you? I'm running on empty and it is super late here23:04
EriC^^morning should be good, seems we're at similar time zones23:05
EriC^^borked2022: this site mentions something about how to fix the boot not empty type stuff https://askubuntu.com/questions/1235425/zfs-rpool-fails-to-mount-on-boot23:08
borked2022ok, I doubt that is it but I'm tired and brain isn't working anymore23:08
EriC^^yeah, pretty tired here as well, do you have an easy backup btw? you mentioned snapshots earlier?23:10
EriC^^is that the advantage of zfs? snapshops and stuff?23:10
borked2022EriC^^, heh, well the snapshots were supposed to be my last resort23:11
borked2022but they (silently) stopped in late 202023:11
borked2022so they're too old to be of use23:12
EriC^^yikes23:12
borked2022df -h /mnt/boot shows 13G used 3%23:13
borked2022which is wrong23:14
EriC^^aha23:14
borked2022but I think that is normal for zfs23:14
borked2022u have to get your free space elsewhere kind of like with btrfs23:14
EriC^^could you run fsck on it maybe just for kicks23:15
borked2022so bpool is 1.88gb and 1.53gb free so definitely not the issue23:16
EriC^^yup23:17
borked2022fsck doesn't exist for zfs I guess it is supposed to be unbreakable hah23:18
borked2022I'm wrapping it up for now, thanks for the help23:19
borked2022I'll try to come by in the morning like you suggested23:19
borked2022have a good night23:19
EriC^^no problem, thanks you too23:20

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