[00:02] cybertek: i delete network manager [00:09] I did a "apt-get install linux-generic-hwe-20.04" and now the video is glitchy any way to fix that? === xenial is now known as Guest2655 [00:13] Hello. I am trying to mount an apple APFS partition. Ive downloaded fsapfsmount, but I get errors saying unable to initialize decryption context. [00:17] Just wondering if anyone has ever gotten that error before [00:20] now I have this "A start job is running for Raise network interfaces" when I boot and I can't ctrl-c it, anyone help? [00:28] killall [00:30] just had to wait 5 minutes and it came back up, but commented out everythingg in /etc/network/interfaces and that fixed it [00:38] !netplan [00:38] Netplan is a network configuration abstraction renderer which uses YAML descriptions of a network to work with either a NetworkManager or Systemd-networkd "renderer". More information at https://netplan.io/ [00:39] editing /etc/network/interfaces is the old way [00:43] oh thanks, trying to get an ip address via dhcp for openvswitch at startup, wonder if I can use netplan for that or not [00:47] 3 examples, https://www.molnar-peter.hu/en/openvswitch-and-network-config-ubuntu-18-04-netplan-ifupdown-systemd-networkd.html [01:15] NickServ /nick S3curityD0ct0r === Mikro is now known as Guest2198 === Colere is now known as Sauvin === xenial is now known as Guest5171 [02:12] hello. [02:13] uhh one moment [02:14] alright [02:14] hi [02:17] weird question: Kubuntu 22.04; HP EliteDesk 800; Two KVM switches, one for VGA, one for DVI; is it normal for my 1280x1024 VGA display to change its resolution to 1024x768 at complete random, or for the OS to completely stop recognizing the DVI display? [02:19] What GPU? [Collecting info: I do not know how to solve your problem, but am collecting info to help others.] [02:19] integrated [02:19] it's 7 inches by 7 inches by 1 inch [02:20] no PCIE slots for a GPU === VMGuy234 is now known as VMGuy23 === _enigma9o7_ is now known as enigma9o7 === cowonmars0 is now known as cowonmars === cowonmars6 is now known as cowonmars === gregorioandrade4 is now known as gregorioandrade [04:19] Can ubuntu be controlled entirely remotely like rasberrypi using vnc ? [04:22] Blackhawk: https://linuxhint.com/enable-remote-desktop-ubuntu-access-from-windows/ [04:23] blackhawk: sure [04:23] raspberrypi is hardware [04:23] the OS is usually something Debian based [04:23] Ubuntu is literally Debian [04:23] thank you, let me look into that ravage [04:23] i get that mastsman, any debian based os should do that [04:23] and any GNU/Linux [04:24] and honestly, if you like pain, you can setup & use VNC on any other OS of note, too [06:07] hi owo [06:07] are there any package persons here [06:07] 'maxima' installs gnuplot-x11 along with it [06:08] which apt says conflicts with gnuplot-qt which is what came with the normal gnuplot I had installed previously [06:08] so it removes the qt client [06:08] and installed the x11 client [06:08] which, uh, is a bit less featureful and I am finding it crashing sometimes too [06:08] so I manually installed gnuplot-qt and it again displaced gnuplot-x11 instead [06:08] will that cause issues? [06:09] can I just uninstall maxima and reinstall a cli only version [06:09] I didn't even know maxima had gui parts, I only need the cli part [06:09] I use normal gnuplot anyways for plotting === pah is now known as pa [06:45] pikapika: on my jammy side maxima wants to install; gnuplot-data gnuplot-x11 liblua5.4-0 maxima-share [06:45] maxima is so old [06:45] lisp from the 80s [06:45] gnuplot-x11 [06:45] thats the one [06:46] it displaced my gnuplot-qt [06:46] do you think its safe to uninstall maxima and reinstall with only cli version [06:46] askubuntu says if we pass the no optinal or recommended flags to apt it won't install the guis [06:46] pikapika: are you using external ppa's of any kind? [06:46] no [06:46] standard ubuntu [06:47] retrosenator, whats a good free symbolic math package [06:48] i dont know lol [06:48] requirement is it should be good at algebraic manipulations and basic calculus [06:48] its just old [06:48] retrosenator, have you used maxima before? [06:48] like 15 years ago [06:48] and it was old then [06:48] maxima often fails to solve some simple stuff like biquadratics [06:48] so I'd like something thats more powerful at symbolic math anyways [06:48] yeah i used cracked maple to solve [06:49] i think wolfram mathmatica is available online via web browser? [06:49] at least they ship this on raspberry pi too [06:49] free to use, dont know about sources [06:50] retrosenator, I was looking for a local instal because wolfram was being a dick [06:50] it often deliberately misinterprets stuff to try to force you to purchase [06:53] well if you used qemu [06:53] you could run raspbian [06:53] lol [06:54] how will raspbian help [06:54] oh [06:54] interesting [06:54] I will have to see [06:54] its already installed === polo_ is now known as money === elastic_dog is now known as Guest6588 [08:24] So, in leu of having a (sensible) filesystem that is cross platform... Is there a way to share files between my computer and other computers that doesn't require setup from the other partys side? [08:39] bblinky, how much setup do you tolerate [08:39] I was trying out nfs a few days ago [08:39] it was quite pleasant [08:39] its a proper file system unlike ssh [08:45] pikapika: As little as possible... I like nfs too, but ifI want to share a file with someone over the networkit kind of breaks the idea of the concept if I have to get up and go and make setup on their computer [08:45] the ohter person has to do some setup at least [08:45] otherwise there is no option than emailing tarballs [08:45] I think [08:46] lol, tarbals... That doesn't sound like something my OSX friends will even be able to pronounce [08:46] l [08:47] I just meant any kind of zip solution [08:47] I know [08:49] It's ok.. I'm just moderately fustrated because i found out that exFat won't do on my new external SSD because for some fkn reason virt-manager wont run qcow images stored on exFat drives... Some file permission thing https://paste.rs/4bN [08:51] I use arch btw, just came in here to rant, and because ubuntu is more ui focused than vanilla [08:51] Ubuntu is a very professional os [08:51] I agreee [08:51] htough they are starting to force snaps lately sadly [08:53] I'm not completely in the loop about snaps actually... How are they different than f.eks. apt packages? [08:53] completely different [08:53] they basically copy almost all the libraries per application [08:54] and you don't have any standard method to stop them auto updating [08:54] and due to copying everything, they require much more disk and don't respect the users theme etc [08:54] as i dont see any Ubuntu support topic here at all please move the discusstion elsewhere. Thanks. [08:54] sorry === polo_ is now known as polo === rosalind is now known as lys === lys is now known as rosalind [13:08] Hi all [13:19] pikapika, you should use python notebooks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SdIZHPuW9o&ab_channel=Mr.PSolver [13:19] @pikapika [13:23] hi BluesKaj [13:24] lol, ok: https://imgur.com/a/4teFEG0 [13:24] hi giu- [13:26] u know firefox crashed when open firefox after many second crashed and return this...3608 6331 [13:43] arkanoid: Hmm... ok that's not helpful. If I had to guess, maybe an unattended-upgrades operation or something else apt-related is happening at the same time? [13:44] (Also is this Ubuntu Kinetiic?) [13:44] s/Kinetiic/Kinetic/ [14:01] midht be the FF snap version which I avoid [14:01] might === N3X15_ is now known as N3X15 === solsTiCe2 is now known as solsTiCe [14:34] i diari della motocicletta === polo is now known as Guest2893 [15:09] I'm trying to figure out where ubuntu/gnome is pulling it's default new user config from. Desktop/Downloads/Documents etc get created, and other settings, but I cant find where this template is at [15:16] howudodat: not sure if this is it, but /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults [15:28] EriC^^ yes that's it, thanks [15:48] howudodat: no problem [15:57] ok, follow up questions (normally I would use .profile and etc/skel, but that doesn't seem to do what I want). it's not just directories, but first login is creating files and default settings. (ie: home folder shown on desktop, background, favorites in the dock). Is all this in one central location like /etc/skel or scattered all over? [15:57] if I login first on shell .profile and my first logon script are working, however if the user logs in first using xrdp and not a terminal then .profile isn't getting called to set things up [16:28] Hi. I have a 3 monitor setup. 2 are actual monitors, and one is a TV. Every time I lock the computer, and the TV turns off after a certain amount of time, I cannot get it to come back on as a 3rd display. If I reboot, it will come back. I am running Ubuntu 22.04 with the nVidia proprietary drivers (470) === polo is now known as Guest1239 [17:12] Hi guys [18:35] Does anybody know how Ubuntu manages to theme GDM without swapping out /usr/share/gnome-shell/gnome-shell-theme.gresource? I’ve checked that file and it’s stock GNOME… [18:48] schuelermine[m] According to https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/gdm.8.html, it reads /etc/gdm/custom.conf for its config, it's likely that the file is defined there [18:57] "schuelermine According to https:..." <- literally all lines in that file are commented out [18:57] s/literally/almost/ [18:58] is this thing on? [18:58] borked2022: 'fraid so [18:58] matsaman, thanks [18:59] anybody good with zfs and boot issues? this is my issue https://askubuntu.com/questions/1435307/booting-to-emergency-mode-after-20-04-5-focal-to-22-04-jammy-upgrade [19:00] never did find a reason to use zfs [19:00] matsaman, yea I'm regretting is right now [19:01] borked2022: well [19:01] borked2022: if it only shows the old version, first step is to confirm you actually upgraded, and then fix grub so it shows the new version [19:01] something like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair maybe [19:02] * almost all lines in that file are commented out and it doesn’t mention “theme” or “yaru” ever [19:02] try listing /etc/gdm/ [19:03] matsaman, I was considering that, but that tool doesn't say anything about supporting zfs setups [19:03] well, againn, from your post, your boot loader isn't even listing an upgraded install [19:03] so ZFS is not the issue, yet [19:04] if it listed an upgraded install and spat out some FS error, maybe then [19:05] matsaman, did you see the bottom of this ? https://ibb.co/R7FnZpm [19:06] nope, what is it? [19:06] emergency mode from the old one? [19:07] matsaman, bpool not mounting [19:07] how much data have you got on it? [19:08] matsaman, on bpool? [19:08] on the ZFS [19:10] matsaman, sda disk 931.5G Samsung SSD 860 QVO 1TB (just under half full) [19:10] sda1 part 512M vfat (bios boot?) [19:10] sda2 part 1K [19:10] sda5 part 2G zfs_member (bpool) sda6 part 927G zfs_member (rpool) [19:11] matsaman, did I understand your question? [19:11] yeah [19:11] Frosty126: I did, and I ripgrepped through that directory for “theme” or “yaru” but only commented-out lines showed up [19:12] a really simple boring way if you aren't invested in ZFS would be to grab another drive, back it all up, and reinstall without using ZFS [19:12] you'd still have to figure out how to mount your ZFS from a live OS, of course [19:12] but that shouldn't be as much work [19:12] matsaman, I've already mounted it from liveUSB but I was hoping to get it back because I have way too much customized stuff on there right now [19:15] matsaman, migrating to another ubuntu system on btrfs or whatever FS would be much easier for me if it is running normally [19:15] matsaman, not gonna lie, I'm also really curious how/why an upgrade went so badly [19:18] Looking at the service file it would appear that it uses the /usr/share/gdm/dconf/ directory to get config files, try listing that directory [19:19] matsaman, I'm trying boot-repair, it asks "if needed, type sudo zfs load-key -a in a terminal" ; is this in case zfs is encrypted or..? [19:21] OK [19:29] Frosty126: still no hits for `rg -i "yaru|theme"` [19:32] I can't find anywhere else they might be so you may wan't to look at the manual: https://help.gnome.org/admin/gdm/stable/index.html.en [19:36] borked2022: looks like it [19:37] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7KdpyWxg53/ [19:37] matsaman, I don't think the T410 is capable of UEFI boot so can I ignore that and run the boot repair anyway? [19:38] don't see anything EFI related in the bios [19:38] can't see that paste because it's behind some kind of idiot login system =P [19:38] I would expect boot repair to work with either UEFI or more traditional & sensible systems, yes [19:47] Frosty126: AFAIK GDM doesn’t officially support themes [19:51] matsaman, their suggestion is unclear https://hastebin.com/uzeriqifik.sql [19:57] matsaman, I ran it anyway and clearly the tool is only intended for UEFI systems [19:59] https://hastebin.com/awukidabul.sql [20:00] borked2022: not really [20:00] can you pastebin 'sudo parted -ls' [20:00] probably you have an efi partition and so that's why it wants you to boot in uefi compatible mode, to be able to access the uefi entries [20:01] https://hastebin.com/qoxayeposa.apache [20:02] yup, you have an efi partition [20:02] what's the problem you're having with booting? [20:03] EriC^^, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1435307/booting-to-emergency-mode-after-20-04-5-focal-to-22-04-jammy-upgrade [20:03] Do you know how to read GVariant database files? [20:03] I’m thinking there might be some info in /var/lib/gdm3/greeter-dconf-defaults [20:05] borked2022: do you have the rootfs mounted right now? [20:09] EriC^^, sorry I got disconnected. did I miss anything? [20:10] borked2022: do you have the rootfs mounted right now? [20:10] EriC^^, no but I can [20:10] ok mount it [20:10] so mount rpool wherever? [20:11] /mnt [20:14] EriC^^, urm so I ran sudo zpool import rpool [20:14] EriC^^, but I have no idea what I'm doing [20:14] never used zfs to be honest [20:15] EriC^^, hold on I had it mounted yesterday === polo is now known as money [20:18] ok [20:21] EriC^^, I think it is mounted but not in /mnt [20:22] where's it mounted? [20:22] the installer created a bunch of mountpoints [20:22] borked2022: Try using "lsblk". [20:23] mount shows "rpool/ROOT/ubuntu_uxtu99 on / type zfs" for instance [20:24] lsblk doesn't show any mountpoints [20:24] except the loop mounted liveUSB [20:25] EriC^^, you want a pastebin of the mount output? [20:26] sure [20:26] borked2022, zpool import -f rpool -R /mnt [20:26] should import that whole thing in /mnt [20:26] and then [20:26] zpool import -f bpool -R /mnt/boot [20:26] should add the boot stuff [20:27] with that chroot i gope EriC^^ can work :) [20:27] ravage, thanks but it is complaining I already imported it. how to I unimport without rebooting? [20:27] *hope [20:27] export it [20:28] if you also have an EFI partition and you need to use it then you may have to mount that too [20:28] https://develmonk.com/2022/05/20/mount-ubuntu-22-04-zfs-partitions-using-live-iso-for-disaster-recovery/ [20:29] ravage, apparently I do so thanks again [20:31] if you apt-get install package=version, does that prevent the package from getting updated if you run "apt upgrade" ? [20:31] urm, so that efi is sda1? [20:31] Macwinner, no [20:32] Macwinner: i doubt, you need apt-mark hold after installing it [20:32] ravage: what's the correct way of pinning a package version to prevent updates? just migrating our old centos infra over to Ubuntu, so getting the hang of thing [20:32] Is there any problem with a laptop bluetooth? I have a speaker that works well with my android. I have it connected. It is a JBL speaker. BUT, the sound is still coming out of the laptop. 22.04 HP Probook. [20:32] EriC^^: awesome, thanks! [20:33] EriC^^, please confirm you were wanting me to do what ravage said? [20:33] sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi ? [20:39] borked2022: yes sure [20:39] EriC^^, that fails with mountpoint doesn't exist [20:40] borked2022: where is the rootfs at right now? [20:40]  /mnt/ [20:40] (rpool) [20:40] ok, run the 2nd command to monut the boot pool(?) [20:40] bpool is mounted to /mnt/boot/ [20:40] *mount [20:40] aha [20:41] what's in /mnt/boot? [20:41] now efi should be sda1 right? [20:41] small fat32 partition? [20:41] also what's in 'cat /mnt/etc/fstab' ? [20:41] yes [20:42] couple things, boot folder, initrd.img [20:42] borked2022: wow, pretty silly [20:42] borked2022: type 'ls -l /mnt/boot | nc termbin.com 9999' [20:42] paste the link it gives you here [20:42] fstab has 2 lines [20:43] 69k0 [20:43] also 'cat /mnt/etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999' [20:43] ty [20:44] nifty [20:44] !info linux-generic jammy [20:44] linux-generic (5.15.0.50.50, jammy): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Built by linux-meta. Size 2 kB / 20 kB. (Only available for amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x.) [20:45] i feel like something is messed up borked2022 , the kernel is ...15 whereas current jammy is .50 [20:45] i mean .25 in /boot [20:45] i wonder what's in /boot/boot, "ls -l /boot/boot | nc termbin.com 9999" [20:45] EriC^^, I concur but don't know what to do about it [20:46] borked2022: what does cat /mnt/etc/issue show btw? [20:46] I think u meant /mnt/boot/boot [20:47] zs4gy [20:47] yes, my bad [20:48] https://termbin.com/u8mx [20:48] boot/boot looks like the focal kernel? [20:49] yeah i think so [20:49] upgrade really shat the bed [20:49] !info linux-generic focal [20:49] linux-generic (5.4.0.128.129, focal): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Built by linux-meta. Size 2 kB / 19 kB. (Only available for amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x.) [20:49] please tell me we can fix it [20:49] lastly, type "(dpkg -l | grep grub; cat /mnt/etc/fstab) | nc termbin.com 9999" [20:50] pretty sure it's fixable, if we dont manage to im sure someone who knows more about zfs can help, we'll give it a shot though [20:50] b2g2 [20:51] bad link [20:51] ah my bad [20:52] thats my bootetd system: https://p.haxxors.com/28b9kso6.txt [20:53] ravage: what's your fstab look like? [20:53] so i guess as long as you have grub and efi mounted you should be fine [20:53] he seems to only have the efi partition, and some other uuid is commented out [20:53] https://p.haxxors.com/gn0pyp9t.txt [20:53] nevermind, its swap [20:54] hold on, the efi is not currently mounted [20:54] borked2022: yeah 1 sec [20:54] ravage: this line seems i dunno, /boot/efi/grub /boot/grub none defaults,bind 0 0 [20:55] it was added by the installer. no idea :) [20:56] ok :D [20:56] *drunk installer? [20:56] must be right, just dunno much about zfs blackmagic [20:57] I thought I was being cautious sticking to LTS meh [20:57] also my ZFS is encrypted but i dont think this makes much difference [20:57] this is NOT encrypted [20:57] (just for clarity) [20:58] borked2022: try 'mkdir /mnt/boot/efi' [20:58] then type 'for i in /dev /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -R $i /mnt$i; done' [20:59] "sudo mkdir /mnt/boot/efi" worked [20:59] ok great [20:59] and then mounting it worked [20:59] ok [20:59] mm [20:59] Hello. Can someone please help me with a bluetooth issue? The modprobe command hangs when I run 'sudo modprobe btusb'. This started happening after I ran apt-get dist-upgrade yesterday to catch up to the newest kernel/libs [20:59] try the for loop, then type 'sudo chroot /mnt' [21:00] do you mind if I switch to irc on the liveUSB so I can copy pasta your commands? [21:00] gimme a second please [21:00] ok, np [21:02] for i in /dev /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -R $i /mnt$i; done [21:04] EriC^^, OK [21:04] i've entered chroot [21:04] borked2022the2nd: great [21:05] Roey: post URL from terminal for> (lsusb; sudo dmesg | egrep -i 'blue|firm') | nc termbin.com 9999 [21:05] i wonder what 'mount /boot/grub' would do borked2022the2nd [21:05] no error [21:05] shows up in mount [21:06] borked2022the2nd: ok, try first, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade [21:06] Jeremy31: oh lsbusb hangs for some reason [21:06] i'm installing zfs in a vm right now, can compare results [21:07] for the grub / boot stuff [21:07] Jeremy31: I get this from dmesg - [21:07] rpool isn't at risk here? [21:09] I'm recognizing the mirrors I had configured but with jammy tacke don [21:09] borked2022the2nd: not sure what you mean [21:10] borked2022the2nd: what's the output of 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999' [21:10] Roey: Might be a lot of other issues if lsusb hangs [21:10] EriC^^, it wants to remove some no longer required packages [21:10] https://termbin.com/l79wj [21:12] EriC^^, I interrupted the apt-get command at the y/n prompt to run the command u asked [21:13] do you still want me to rerun it? [21:13] nah hold that thought, try "tail -n+1 -v /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999" [21:13] since the sources are clearly not right? [21:13] yeah they're all commented out and wrong oddly [21:14] https://termbin.com/kvdy [21:14] Jeremy31: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cJRGtgykHT/ [21:14] Jeremy31: that's bluetooth in dmesg's output. === money is now known as Guest5995 [21:15] EriC^^, the upgrade usually removes all of those 3rd party ppas no? [21:15] borked2022the2nd: not really, it might disable the ppa though [21:16] borked2022the2nd: it looks like it's getting the jammy repos from something to do with 'nala' [21:17] nala is a frontend for apt but I don't see where you are referencing [21:17] anyways if you feel like apt-get dist-upgrade makes sense continue with it [21:18] it's this file, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nala-sources.list [21:18] Roey: in terminal> cd /lib/firmware/brcm && sudo wget https://github.com/winterheart/broadcom-bt-firmware/raw/master/brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd [21:18] Then reboot [21:18] nala was not used for the do-release-upgrade whatever [21:19] Jeremy31: interesting, there is no "bcrm" in /lib/firmware [21:19] Jeremy31: why might that be? [21:19] EriC^^, ok, trying again.. [21:19] ok [21:20] Roey: It is brcm not bcrm [21:21] whats this ubuntu pro beta adds on the cli now..? [21:21] *ads [21:21] I suspect you have a USB dongle and this isn't part of a wifi chip Roey [21:21] Jeremy31 oh! [21:21] Jeremy31: oh I absolutely do have a Bluetooth dongle [21:21] Jeremy31: yeah you're right [21:22] EriC^^, [21:22] Hello! [21:22] Roey: It has the same ID as an IoGear BT device I have [21:22] it finished quickly and the only erors are regarding search-engines in gnome schema something [21:22] Jeremy31: Jeremy31 aye [21:22] reboot? [21:22] Jeremy31: so now just to reboot, you say? [21:22] I mean this worked before [21:22] borked2022the2nd: hmm, what's dpkg -l | grep linux-generic give? [21:22] after runnign apt-get dist-upgrade it stopped working. I wonder why. [21:22] EriC^^, nothing ran grub related or anything [21:23] Jeremy31: ^ [21:23] Anyone know if changing keybinds is possible without a reboot or logout? [21:23] is it .50 now? is there a new .50 kernel in /boot borked2022the2nd ? [21:23] Roey: reboot [21:23] 5.15.0.25.27 [21:23] that's in dpkg? [21:24] wait, only one line and they are headers [21:24] wtf [21:24] Jeremy31: will BRB [21:24] borked2022the2nd: odd, try apt-get install --reinstall linux-{image,headers}-generic linux-generic [21:25] https://termbin.com/tzkq [21:25] Roey: ok, it might not work as my USB BT works fine [21:26] EriC^^, no change in the dpkg grep output [21:26] the command ran way to fast to have reinstalled kernels I think [21:26] https://termbin.com/0mma [21:28] borked2022the2nd: what does 'apt-cache policy linux-image-generic' give you for candidate? [21:29] EriC^^, https://termbin.com/lh8zm [21:29] hello. Question, y'all pretty much use Wayland as default, right? [21:29] those are typical mirrors I'm used to seeing [21:30] EriC^^, maybe he should rename his full sources directory and start with a default jammy one? and then add back the PPAs he really needs? [21:31] ravage: yeah, good idea [21:31] ravage, I have no problem doing that but I'm not sure how to propulate the defaults [21:31] borked2022the2nd: type "mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nala-sources.list{,.old}" [21:32] i can give you my list [21:32] incidentally, we can remove nala if you think it has anything to do with the problem (I doubt it) [21:32] https://p.haxxors.com/15su9jfs.txt [21:32] this is my current jammy list [21:33] i guess you could remove some stuff but nothing in there should ne hurtful [21:33] Reason I ask is because I noticed my screenshot apps were crashing and not working. Then the mouse stopped working on a VM and then also on apps in ubuntu. Eventually I realized that I had set it to Wayland instead of Xorg. So, I'm wondering if Wayland is this problematic with people that use it by defaul.t [21:33] WeeBey, i use Xorg because Wayland causes multiple problems for me [21:34] got it, I just put that in /etc/apt/sources.list [21:34] thanks [21:34] borked2022the2nd: great, type 'apt-get update' [21:34] then apt-cache policy linux-generic [21:34] hopefully it shows .50 [21:35] note: there is a line that says"N: Ignoring file 'nala-sources.list.old' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension" [21:36] thats ok for now [21:36] https://termbin.com/czwng [21:36] much better :) [21:36]  Candidate: 5.15.0.50.50 promissing? [21:37] EriC^^, is everything mounted so he could just try a full-upgrade now? [21:38] mount > https://termbin.com/fp0z0 [21:38] yup ravage [21:39] ok so "apt full-upgrade" it is. may show a lot of packages. maybe paste it before you hit "y" [21:40] the fact that sda1 is mounted on both /boot/efi and /boot/grub is irrelevant? [21:41] EriC^^, ravage,? [21:42] that sounds like a question for EriC^^ but it looks a little strange. i did not know you can actually do that [21:43] oh [21:43] borked2022the2nd: i think that's normal cause it seems in fstab the installer puts a mount bind like that [21:43] thats just the bind [21:43] ^^ [21:43] Jeremy31: hello [21:43] so seems fine. go for it :) [21:43] ok... [21:43] Roey: hello [21:44] So I rebooted; it still does not connect. Output of dmesg here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/55rQSTvNdW/ [21:46] Jeremy31: ^ [21:46] EriC^^, is the hypothesis that something was interrupted midway but the do-release-upgrade still acted like everything finished fine? [21:47] I don't get it [21:47] i have no idea, honestly, hoping to get the packages up to date, then reinstall grub and see what happens [21:48] Roey: try in terminal> sudo cp /lib/firmware/brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd /lib/firmware/brcm/BCM-0a5c-21e8.hcd [21:48] EriC^^, I swear, there wasn't the slightest hint that anything had gone wrong until grub menu showed 20.04 still and then haveway through bootup it dumped me in emergency more [21:49] Jeremy31: $ sudo cp -i /lib/firmware/brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd /lib/firmware/brcm/BCM-0a5c-21e8.hcd [21:49] cp: cannot stat '/lib/firmware/brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd': No such file or directory [21:49] *mode [21:49] $ ls /lib/firmware/bcrm/ [21:49] BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd [21:49] Roey: try in terminal> sudo cp /lib/firmware/bcrm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd /lib/firmware/brcm/BCM-0a5c-21e8.hcd [21:50] Jeremy31: ok, that copied successfully [21:50] Jeremy31: reboot again? [21:50] Roey: unplug the dongle for a few seconds then plug back in [21:51] ok [21:52] borked2022: i believe you, honestly this zfs booting is so darn weird, trying it in a vm right now [21:55] Jeremy31: HEY IT WORKS!!!!!!! [21:55] thanks! [21:55] Roey: Good, what kernel are you using? [21:55] Jeremy31: output of dmesg once I unplugged it and re-plugged it, and of course did the cp command as you specified: [21:55] Jeremy31: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vp8v9HjbRp/ [21:56] Jeremy31: $ uname -a [21:56] Linux gear 5.15.0-50-generic #56-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 20 13:23:26 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [21:56] EriC^^,  update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-5.15.0-50-generic [21:56] nice [21:56] borked2022the2nd: try 'grub-install' once it's done [21:56] Jeremy31: so evidently it's using that BCM driver now. [21:57] EriC^^, 99% [21:57] also might as well run 'grub-install --target=i386-pc /dev/sda' as well [21:57] Roey: Ok, it is actually a firmware file but I have rarely needed to use it myself [21:58] EriC^^, that will install it to mbr as well as efi? [21:58] or just mbr? [21:58] Roey: It only seems to help with Bluetooth audio from what I remember from years ago [21:58] or am I running both commands? [21:59] borked2022the2nd: yup running both, first should be efi second mbr [21:59] EriC^^, well just plain grub-install complains [21:59] about what [21:59] grub-install: error: install device isn't specified. [21:59] aha [22:00] try grub-install --target=x86_64-efi [22:00] just that or the other one too [22:00] ? [22:00] only that for now [22:00] did it work? [22:00] grub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory. [22:01] borked2022the2nd: seems grub is wacky [22:01] try 'apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-bin grub-efi-amd64-signed [22:02] stuff happened [22:02] try the previous command again? [22:02] ok, yeah [22:02] grub-install --target=x86_64-efi ? [22:02] kinda odd the file wasnt there tbh [22:03] yeah [22:03] dpkg -S shows its part of grub-efi-amd64-bin [22:03] Installing for x86_64-efi platform. [22:03] grub-install: warning: EFI variables cannot be set on this system. [22:03] grub-install: warning: You will have to complete the GRUB setup manually. [22:03] Installation finished. No error reported. [22:03] i think it's not booted in efi mode right now [22:04] EriC^^, I believe you are correct [22:04] as a reminder, this is a stinkpad T410 that doesn't do UEFI [22:04] lol [22:04] (unless you install coreboot/libreboot...) [22:04] supposedly [22:05] ok give 'grub-install --target=i386-pc /dev/sda' a go [22:05] that was a little fast [22:05] yup [22:05] Installing for i386-pc platform. [22:05] Installation finished. No error reported. [22:06] try 'update-grub' [22:06] seems right [22:06] honestly i would run 'dpkg -V' for a bit just to see what is up [22:06] it only complains about os-prober but that is normal with zfs [22:06] aha soundsgood [22:06] ok, type 'exit' [22:07] then try rebooting i guess [22:07] dpkg -V spit out a bunch of missing lines [22:07] hmm such as [22:07] still going... [22:07] aha [22:08] I'll run it again and put it in termbin [22:08] ok [22:08] if it ever finishes [22:08] :D [22:08]  /usr/share/locale/.... /usr/share/help [22:08] ctrl+c it [22:08] keeps going [22:09] u still want to see it? is this bad news? [22:09] mm mine is just 4 lines, about sudoers and some stuff you'd expect [22:09] with aptitude he could reinstall all packages with "aptitude reinstall '~i'" but i dont know if that is useful [22:09] oh, it looks like netcat truncated it? https://termbin.com/txubx [22:10] do you need to see it all? [22:10] borked2022the2nd: yeah it doesnt sound good, it was odd that grub was missing that file, could be other stuff missing too from other packages :| [22:10] nah [22:10] darn, so this install is still garbage? [22:10] what's the rest actually? anything important looking [22:10] bo [22:10] *no [22:10] seems ok til now [22:11] um, I'll let it run through [22:11] might take a bit [22:12] if you want do | nc youtubextras.com 4040 to get the full output [22:13] ill move it to the /www to share the content [22:13] so stuff in /usr/share/man , /usr/share/locale/, /usr/share/help [22:14] one line is ??5??????     [tab]       /usr/bin/rclone [22:14] weird [22:14] looks fine til now, could just reinstall rclone i guess [22:14] one line, /lib/modules/5.4.0-26-generic.....?? [22:15] old kernel, who cares :D [22:15] help man and locale so far [22:15] Jeremy31: so thank you :) [22:16] EriC^^,/boot/System.map-5.4.0-24-generic and /boot/config {same} [22:17] ??5?????? c /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic [22:17] missing     /usr/share/cups [22:17] i have that same 10periodic one [22:18] another old kernel [22:18] all looking harmless til now [22:18] what exactly is this telling us? [22:20] that the install isnt corrupted for sure [22:20] has it stopped? [22:20] never even knew there was that much stuff in locale and man [22:20] still going [22:21] i honestly thought it was a 1min thing [22:21] Jeremy31: so anyway, a BIG THANK YOU to you, you really solved my problem :D :D [22:21] EriC^^, should I stop it? [22:22] I wonder if we didn't mount something that was needed [22:22] i say let it continue a bit, even if the system works when you reboot, you kind of want to know it's not screwed in some way [22:22] nah [22:22] since the zfs install makes all of those seperate mounts [22:22] im right now trying to chroot and grub stuff on this zfs vm, following same guide that was linked above [22:23] ??5?????? c /etc/sysctl.conf             might need this? [22:24] issing     /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 [22:24] missing     /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0 [22:25] sysctl.conf for me is completely commented out [22:25] missing     /var/cache/app-info [22:25] missing     /var/cache/app-info/xmls === rosalind is now known as lovebug [22:25] ??5?????? c /etc/xdg/xfce4/helpers.rc [22:26] finally [22:26] ended [22:26] yay [22:26] my head hurts [22:26] /var/cache/app-info/xmls is part of the fwupd paackage [22:26] if you ever want to know which package do dpkg -S /var/cache/app-info/xmls itll show you [22:27] anyways try typing 'exit' now then reboot to see if it works [22:27] then i guess tackle any missing stuff [22:27] ok [22:27] crossing my fingers === NeoFAT32_ is now known as NeoFAT32 [22:30] EriC^^, well, grub now shows 22.04 [22:30] but it still boots to emergency / maintenance mode [22:30] :( [22:31] hmm [22:31] what happens if you type 'exit' [22:31] in the maintenance thing [22:32] EriC^^, thanks for the help so far [22:32] if I exit [22:32] it shows a red line failed to start default target: transaction for graphical.target/start [22:32] is destructive [22:33] emergency.targ has start job queued but stop is included in transaction [22:35] EriC^^, um wait, if I hit E to look at the 22.04.1 LTS line in grub [22:35] it is trying to use an old kernel 5.4.0-39 [22:37] EriC^^, you want any info from the journalctl -xb in the emergency terminal? [22:38] hmm if it looks important [22:38] try going to 'advanced' in grub and see if you can choose the newer kernel [22:38] or maybe recovery mode helps somehow? [22:39] EriC^^, tried, no newer kernels avail [22:39] hello I am trying to create a symbolic link to a directory [22:39] such that if you go to one directory you get to the other [22:39] how can I do that? [22:40] anyone to assist? [22:41] EriC^^, unsure if this is relevant: systemd-udevd / usr/lib/udev/rules.d/libtvcontrol.rules invalid value /bin/sh -c for I in /sys/bus/usb/drivers/cytherm/$kernel; do echo 'basename' [22:42] EriC^^, same bpool/BOOT/ubuntu_uxtu99 cannot be mounted [22:43] The 'any' key? [22:43] you can see the picture in my orginal askubuntu.com post [22:43] Oy, wrong channel... [22:43] hello? [22:43] paul_: o/ [22:44] failing to mount /boot [22:44] paul_: Pretty sure "ln -s" will do what you want. [22:44] dependency failed for /boot/efi [22:44] paul_: ln -s /path/to/directory /path/to/link [22:45] ends with successfully entered the dead state [22:45] gotta love it [22:47] EriC^^, recovery mode? [22:48] sure why not [22:48] EriC^^, sorry I'm asking what that is [22:49] there isn't an option in grub called recovery mode [22:50] borked2022: Select "Advanced Options for Ubuntu" first, then you'll see the recovery mode options. [22:50] EriC^^, oh, yea got it so it puts me into a TUI [22:51] but it doesn't respond [22:51] thanks arraybolt3 still didn't figure out the problem but going to leave it for later... thanks good night [22:51] and the emergency mode text is sort of overlayed === rosalind is now known as Guest4128 [22:52] EriC^^, this is ugly but I sort of can use it, which options should I try? [22:52] it is rendering weird [22:53] EriC^^, nope, not working at all [22:54] arrow key cycles through the history of the commands we ran before reboot, very strange [22:54] odd [22:55] im still trying to get this zfs vm to boot xD [22:55] i run update-grub and it says didnt find any valid kernel, even though both are in /vmlinuz and /boot/vmlinuz....50 [22:56] EriC^^, this page seems to show a few different things https://develmonk.com/2022/05/20/mount-ubuntu-22-04-zfs-partitions-using-live-iso-for-disaster-recovery/ [22:56] from what we did [22:57] but it is kind of over my head [22:58] thats the one i was following [22:58] anyways i guess the problem is the /boot not being empty stuff [22:58] in your case [22:59] EriC^^, is it possible the upgrade ran the bpool out of space? [22:59] how can I confirm it isn't out of space? [23:01] borked2022: boot the live usb and try to mount it and see 'df -h /mnt/boot' output [23:03] EriC^^, Any chance you're in here often? [23:04] yeah [23:04] any particular times I could find you? I'm running on empty and it is super late here [23:05] morning should be good, seems we're at similar time zones [23:08] borked2022: this site mentions something about how to fix the boot not empty type stuff https://askubuntu.com/questions/1235425/zfs-rpool-fails-to-mount-on-boot [23:08] ok, I doubt that is it but I'm tired and brain isn't working anymore [23:10] yeah, pretty tired here as well, do you have an easy backup btw? you mentioned snapshots earlier? [23:10] is that the advantage of zfs? snapshops and stuff? [23:11] EriC^^, heh, well the snapshots were supposed to be my last resort [23:11] but they (silently) stopped in late 2020 [23:12] so they're too old to be of use [23:12] yikes [23:13] df -h /mnt/boot shows 13G used 3% [23:14] which is wrong [23:14] aha [23:14] but I think that is normal for zfs [23:14] u have to get your free space elsewhere kind of like with btrfs [23:15] could you run fsck on it maybe just for kicks [23:16] so bpool is 1.88gb and 1.53gb free so definitely not the issue [23:17] yup [23:18] fsck doesn't exist for zfs I guess it is supposed to be unbreakable hah [23:19] I'm wrapping it up for now, thanks for the help [23:19] I'll try to come by in the morning like you suggested [23:19] have a good night [23:20] no problem, thanks you too