=== perryon1 is now known as perryon [01:36] I've spent several hours tryingn to get a non-url to redirect/rewrite to a www url with not luck. I've tried every iteration of apache2 rewrite/redirect rules on Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS with no luch [01:36] luck [01:36] any suggestions. [01:36] what's a non-url [01:41] wastrel(sorry) non-www URL [01:41] wastrel trying to redirect to a single URL [01:43] idk gl [01:43] gl? [01:46] 'good luck' [01:57] sarnold wastrel TY! [01:58] :) [03:05] hekll [03:15] if I have a host machine with 12 cpu's, and i create 2 multipass instances and assign 12 cpu's to each, should this theoretically work? would it just behave as if the combined processes within the instances were running directly on the host? [05:56] hello anyone order a delivery [05:56] * pizzaishere is here [07:29] I am using the unofficial MS Teams app from the snap store by ismaelmartinez... and i have that running in startup ... which is fine in general.... but the problem is it will never update on its own because when its running snap refresh doesnt update the app. is there an easy way to check for updates before starting the app ? or should i just do a little bash script ... [07:30] the same problem is basically with every app... also for chromium for example... is there may be a way to update all snap apps before it starts the desktop? [07:34] * alkisg wishes operating systems would replace their shutdown button with a "download updates and shutdown" button (with the ability to avoid it up to 40 days) and be done with all the unattended upgrades for desktops... [07:38] yeah that would be cool [07:38] update and shutdown, windows 11 has that [07:40] i checked how snap is doing the refreshes [07:40] it does it 4 times a day.. but it will never update basically when the app is running 24/7 [07:41] what a bullshit design [07:41] i might do a timer-service that does snap refresh at boot or something [07:41] the default behaviour is just stupid [07:42] im not happy with snap apps anyways... the performance sucks and quality of the programms often suck... [07:43] when i find time.. i might try debian again... i had some driver problem ... and the updates are also slowly backported... it was faster even on debian stable... [07:50] Excuse me, I would like to ask for help. [07:50] yes [07:50] The ubuntu-22.04-preinstalled-server-riscv64+unmatched.img started with qemu, the kernel version is Linux 5.15.0-1018-generic. I compiled and installed a new kernel, but the new kernel cannot be started. It seems that u-boot needs to be set up. [07:50] I posted the qemu boot script and boot info here: https://dpaste.com/EKCHULY93 [08:54] oi [08:54] oie vey! [08:54] hello support [08:54] hi yes [08:54] This is Ubuntu tech support [08:54] how can I help you [08:54] i dont know any commands [08:54] terminal commands [08:55] can you help me get some? [09:02] hi [09:04] i reccomended xnz repost question dont b mad k [09:05] [15:50] Excuse me, I would like to ask for help. [09:05] [15:50] yes [09:05] [15:50] The ubuntu-22.04-preinstalled-server-riscv64+unmatched.img started with qemu, the kernel version is Linux 5.15.0-1018-generic. I compiled and installed a new kernel, but the new kernel cannot be started. It seems that u-boot needs to be set up. [09:05] [15:50] I posted the qemu boot script and boot info here: https://dpaste.com/EKCHULY93 [09:05] Thanks. [09:08] u should also ask in #linux-offtopic [09:08] linux [09:08] japanesegirl3: This is the right channel. Please don't disrupt this channel. [09:09] xmz: You *might* try asking your question in #ubuntu-server also. [09:11] OK, thanks. I'll ask. [09:23] Had to done reinstallation recently and wanted to install "geoiplookup" which I had earlier but now can't locate the package, [09:23] │isn't it available anymore in a repo?sudo snap install geoip-lookusudo snap install geoip-looku [09:23] y [09:24] sorry for wrong paste [09:24] I've had to done reinstallation and can't find "geoiplookup" in repo, isn't available anymore> [09:24] ? [09:37] vimart, https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/geoip-bin [09:49] ravage: thx bro, I'll look it up [09:49] I've got a lot of work with that reinstallation === arraybolt3_ is now known as arraybolt3 === SteelRose_ is now known as SteelRose [10:20] For people who use a VM setup for a lot of the day to day work... how do you handle keyboard clashes. I use macOS and I have a very specific keybindings. Some of my keybindings are similar to my Ubuntu box. When I create a VM, I want to use the same keys but I cannot because they clash. Is there a way to make keys active only on the VM while its open? === vinnland is now known as vvce === absence_ is now known as absence [10:52] How do I migrate to snap's version of Firefox? [10:57] guzzlefry: apt remove firefox ; snap install firefox [10:58] guzzlefry: why do you prefer the snap version? [11:01] SteelRose: apt version is a bit behind and there seems to be a significant performance bug [11:02] apt-cache policy doesn't tell me the patch version, but: Installed: 105.0+build2-0ubuntu0.20.04.1 [11:02] guzzlefry: tbh, I stopped using FF a long time ago in favor of Brave [11:03] yeah, I might cave and do that. I just hate the idea of a world with a single browser engine. :P [11:04] guzzlefry: yep, I get that too...and moving away from FF was a hard decision... but it was needed, as FF doesn't work in some pages I need for work [11:04] Does Brave have anything like Firefox Sync? [11:10] I recently updated to Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS and am now facing a "file_put_contents: failed to open stream: Permission denied" error that I can not figure out. Any suggestions. [11:10] I'm tried multiple owner and permission configurgations to no avail. This set up worked fine before the upgrade. Any thought. [11:14] BCB: Sounds like a PHP error? [11:47] BCB: which PHP variant / SAPI are you using? apache + mod_php, some webserver + somecgi + fpmd, something else? did you inspect the web server logs near the timestamp where this permission error occurs? what is open_basedir set to? which user ID is the PHP process running as, and how did you tell? which directory path is it trying to write to, and what's the output of ls -la on this directory (on a !pastebin) [11:55] What's the proper way to start kde manually? Like 'systemctl start gdm' starts gnome. [11:56] I don't see any kdm, kde, or plasma mentions among the systemd services [12:00] I think kde uses SDDM [12:06] tomreyn I check EVERY permission BUT the folder it was writing to! That did the trick. Thank you. [12:07] guzzlefry: yes, it does [12:12] BCB: glad you worked it out. === Unit193 is now known as Montresor [12:37] How can I post in linux mint forum? [12:38] fahim: No clue. I don't think this is probably the right channel for this. They should just let you sign up and then post stuff like most other forums, I would think. [12:38] yeah [12:40] I;m sorry ! I'm new here [12:40] No problem. If you get tired of Mint, install Lubuntu, Xubuntu, or another official Ubuntu flavor and then we'll be able to help with problems in-person. :) [12:41] Thank You So much!! [12:41] (Not that you shouldn't use Mint, btw, I've used it, it's cool.) [12:41] Oh! Thanks again [13:14] Hello === wolfdale835 is now known as wolfdale83 [13:16] Hi all [13:16] hi ! === dionysus70 is now known as dionysus69 [13:36] Is anybody using a wayland server on Ubuntu 22.04 ? [13:36] yes [13:36] Working fine ? [13:36] yes - it was the default for the raspberry pi 4 image, works fine [13:37] Nice ! ty [13:37] (i also use wayland on my amd64 laptop but it runs debian) [14:06] leobuilt, wayland is the default for everyone n 22.04 except for nvidia users [14:19] For the close sources drivers you mean? [14:20] cause i think it would be wayland to for Nouveau drivers, not sure tho. [14:20] i dont think it makes that distinction (IIRC it only checks if there is the HW) [14:20] but i'm not sure [14:20] Ok. [14:20] and after all it is just two clicks at the login screen t switch [14:20] *to [14:34] hello, does Ubuntu do backports? specifically, how would I go about requesting that unixodbc 2.3.11-2 be backported from kinetic to jammy? [14:35] !backports | jello [14:35] jello: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging [14:36] 22.10 building going on? [15:01] https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-releases-ubuntu-22-10-kinetic-kudu === toulouse is now known as cubehead [15:33] Where is the release party again? [15:33] #ubuntu-release-party indeed [15:36] thanks @ogra [15:38] !isitout [15:38] Yeeep! Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is OUT! Celebrate in #ubuntu-release-party 🎉 [15:38] heh [15:39] nice ;) [15:39] yay [15:39] Seems to need updating since this release is 22.10 LOL [15:39] which is far from being out yet [15:39] let me update machine to six months ago === withered_wolf is now known as bloody_scary_wol === bloody_scary_wol is now known as bloody_wolf === guitargirl1587 is now known as guitargirl15 [15:50] hello, hello I need a never version of libOIS : https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&keywords=libois&searchon=names then 1.3 [15:50] that is 1.5 for my snapcraft package build [15:50] any ideas what I can do ? [15:59] paul424: you would probably need to package it yourself [16:03] I thought snap was the packaging step, wouldn't you just build it from source? [16:05] jhutchins: yes, but I would still call it packaging ;) [16:06] Building a snap from .deb packages seems redundantly silly. === ajfriesen6 is now known as ajfriesen [16:24] jhutchins, totally not ... there is enough SW that has been deprecated in the archive ... snapping the deb from a release where the SW was still supported make it available on all releases [16:24] *makes [16:25] (and indeed that also works the other way around) [16:25] ogra: are snaps always this complex to build (when looking at your packageproxy)? [16:26] re-packing debs is done quite often to provide backports to old releases to provide old and dead stuff to new ones [16:26] * ogra looks at his packageproxy ... to reply to that [16:28] murmel, well, the snapcraft.yaml is relatively simple ... the whole stuff around it like the launcer script and config handling is really full of brainfarts of mine trying out weird ideas ... you wouldnt need all this anymore today [16:29] ahh, I am right now looking at snaps/snapcraft, and thought, eh I use/used packageproxy, so why not see how it's being built [16:29] and was quite astonished, how much was going on in the repo === anon is now known as Guest3931 [16:30] ogra: was quite bumped that debian repos are not enabled by default ;) so I had to look up how to do that [16:30] lol, sorry [16:31] no problem :) but the way you wrote on your package description, I thought it would enable all *.deb distributions [16:31] i packaged it to scratch my own itch at a time when building ubuntu-core images a lot ... so i only cared about ubuntu archives ... happy to take a PR [16:32] ogra: yeah, give me a bit, still learning the ropes [16:32] no hurry [16:32] the snap itself could really need an verhaul but i have probably painted myself in a corner with the weird config handling [16:32] *overhaul [16:32] (it is really old) [16:33] ogra: yeah, I already wanted to repackage it anyway to learn the ropes, and I saw that you still use core, which afair is deprecated oO? [16:33] or at least it's discouraged [16:35] the latter [16:35] it is actually supported til 2026 [16:35] * ogra notes we're slightly offtopic 🙂 [16:38] hey all, this is more server related, but in 22.04, how can i change the IP address and have it stick? [16:38] should i be using netplan? [16:40] yes [16:40] the netplan.io page has examples [16:40] ok aha well i will try from there. For some reason i cant get it to stick [16:40] after a reboot === Guest3931 is now known as VariableSynapses [16:41] idk [16:41] bye gl [16:47] Hello all! [16:48] Is 22.10 release out? [16:48] not yet [16:48] in some hours [16:48] but in its last stages ... a few hours to go until the mirrors have synced [16:49] Thank you @ogra! [16:49] 18:46 < sil2100> Okay everyone, images are published, mirrors will be syncing - will take a while though, so uh, it's still not 'officially released' [16:49] 18:47 < sil2100> This can take 1-2 hours from now [16:49] Thank you @luna! [17:02] wow ok the netplan yaml is VERY picky when it comes to indents and spacing. [17:13] nominal_value, yaml is ... thats not a netplan thing 😉 [17:14] indentation sould only be done by spaces and always at an even number of these [17:16] hmm [17:16] well all the netplan info i am finding seems to think so [17:17] atm i am unable to remove the old ip. I have local connectivity, but despite having a GW assigned, i cannot comm out to the internet [17:17] lotta work just to set a static ip, yeesh [17:25] Hi, will the 22.10 torrent come out as soon as the .iso is launched? [17:27] i have literally copied and altered the example config from netplan.io and netplan test/apply says it cant be loaded lol [17:38] hi folks [17:39] I'm running latest with all updates. For some reason, after installing the latest, I'm no longer able to connect via Remote Desktop, vnc. [17:40] I get a prompt for a password, but it immediately disconnects after seeming to take it. [17:48] Magnet links don't seem to work with the Firefox snap version... [17:58] !last [17:59] Strange, currently #debian syncs with matrix, #ubuntu doesn't... weird bridge issues [18:01] How would I run the Settings app remotely, i.e., through an ssh -x session? === diskin is now known as Guest3110 [18:25] LuckyMan, usually yes [18:44] Interesting, that other programs run over ssh -X, but when I run, gnome-control-center, it does nothing. [18:50] johnfg, try with dbus-launch first, to get a dbus [18:57] !Ook Introduction to DevOps with Chocolate LEGO and Scrum Game.pdf ::INFO:: 8MB ::HASH:: 654bcd4b93c4f655 [18:57] butax42_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [18:58] !Ook Introduction to DevOps with Chocolate LEGO and Scrum Game.pdf ::INFO:: 8MB ::HASH:: 654bcd4b93c4f655 [18:58] butax42_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [18:59] @search devops === V1A is now known as VlA [19:04] Ubuntu 22.10 is now listed on ubuntu.com [19:08] Hi, due to a crash I was forced to restart the pc by turning it off from the shutdown button, from that moment on when I shut down the operating system, the shutdown screen of the various systemd services appears, but the last service I see in the screen is always "systemd-rfkill" while before it was "reached target shutdown" ... etc. Therefore I [19:08] have reinstalled the systemd package from synaptics but I think I am doing something wrong [19:09] Do you have any advice? [19:13] c_89, seems that services queries the state of various RF switches on the computer (Wifi, bluetooth, etc), does it say anything else? an ok or fail? [19:17] jStefan I run this command: https://bpa.st/EBHQ === Vercas65 is now known as Vercas6 [19:23] * luna downloading 22.10 from ftp.acc.umu.se now [19:25] jStefan I had only one device in soft block, now I ran `sudo rfkill unblock all` do you think that may be the problem? [19:27] c_89, i don't have much experience on rfkill, I'm just looking at my outputs and comparing to yours to see if there something different. Did you try to grep logs for rfkill ? [19:28] Ubuntu 22.10 has been posted on the ubuntu mailing list [19:28] https://releases.ubuntu.com/22.10/ubuntu-22.10-desktop-amd64.iso [19:29] jStefan let's see I try to restart the pc after running the command I mentioned before, see if anything changes ... see you later .... [19:30] people should use a link that manages mirrors automatically === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu to: Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: https://ubottu.com/y/gl | #ubuntu supports Ubuntu and official flavors; versions 18.04, 20.04, 22.04, 22.10 | Unofficial derivatives: Use your distro's support channel, not here | IRC info: https://ubottu.com/y/irc | Pastes to https://paste.ubuntu.com/ | Download: https://ubottu.com/y/dl === Bullwinkle is now known as VarCon [20:00] /msg nickserv identify jfsimon1981 charly00 [20:01] jfsimon1981: Wonder who's about to change their password... [20:01] jfsimon1981, time to change password [20:03] jfsimon1981: it'd be nice if you picked something a bit stronger, too :) [20:06] i think 'jfsimon1981' is prettty strong [20:09] :) [20:10] Using the linux console (without any desktop environment). Then running "sudo nano FILENAME" opens an instance of nano where text-selection using shift+arrows does not work. Despite this working as non-root. Why is that? And how can I make text-selection using shift+arrows work as root? [20:16] carbonfiber: hmm, the nano manpage mentions something about the terminal supporting it.. try env | grep TERM and sudo env | grep TERM and see what the results are; if they are different that is probably worth exploring; if they're the same, then this guess is unlikely to be right :) [20:16] carbonfiber: worth a shot, try sudo -i nano filename [20:17] EriC^^: doesn't work. [20:17] or sudo -H nano filename [20:17] also doesn't work. [20:17] we really all should have been using sudo -e filename for years but I just can't get the hang of that [20:18] carbonfiber: does sudo su - [20:18] then nano filename work? [20:18] also tried setting the .nanorc file explicitly using the --rcfile option. and also checked that both root and the normal user have no .nanorc files in their home directories. [20:19] worth noting that the text gets highlighted if i use meta+A, so it is not an issue with the console colors either. [20:20] EriC^^: that did not work either. [20:20] did you try sarnold 's suggestion on comparing TERM? [20:21] both say "TERM=linux" [20:22] also worth noting that the text-selection using shift-arrow works as root using gnome-terminal. and it works as non-root in the linux console. it is only the combination of root and the linux console which makes it not work. [20:34] fwiw carbonfiber i get the same behavior, odd [20:34] EriC^^: Thanks for reproducing it :) Now I am not the only one :O [20:34] :D [20:38] carbonfiber: i was able to reproduce another error, if you do "sudo -u -s" to get a new shell, and run "nano filename" it stops working for the user too [20:39] EriC^^: thanks. That is interesting. [20:41] When does the name for Ubuntu LL get announced? [20:42] carbonfiber: very odd, if you do "sudo login " to login again, it stops working too [20:43] i must be one of the few who dont use sudo [20:44] its: 'su -'for me [20:44] old school [20:45] EriC^^: maybe compare env and sudo env and try setting some of the missing ones in the new shell? [20:45] enigma9o7: Grief. We just finished whopping ourselves to push Kinetic out and we're already pushing towards LL? :P I also want to know the new name ASAP. [20:47] sarnold: this is diff <(env) <(sudo env) https://termbin.com/x8bj [20:47] leaping lizards and lazy llamas and lounging lemus, the anticipation has me on edge [20:47] s/lemu/lemur/g [20:47] I dunno, a lemu sounds cool. [20:47] Why says the animal has to exist? [20:48] Seems my old 4GB usb flash, I've used for Ubuntu releases until today, is no longer big enough :'( [20:50] EriC^^: cripes, no idea ;( none of those really feel like they're remotely related :( [20:50] jStefan: Possibly, the image is 3.8 GB this time. [20:50] how bout something tech sounding [20:50] no kidding hte iso is over 4gb? if its over 4.3 it wont fit on regular dvd even [20:50] Im sure you were tired of 6mb per sec anyway. [20:50] unpack the iso, remove the crap ya dont need [20:51] language files, servers, desktops, etc [20:51] Like snaps [20:51] it's a valid perspective [20:51] Whoops [20:51] yep posted the pwd my mistake [20:51] jfsimon1981, indeed! [20:52] jfsimon1981, good you noticed, time to make it a stronger one too [20:52] oh dear [20:52] We have all done that once in IRC [20:52] just use: password [20:52] Better yet, hunter2. [20:53] need a harder password...like password123 [20:53] heh [20:53] I know a file of commonly used passwords, you can just pick anyone of those. They must be common for a "good" reason? (NOT) [20:53] did you see it, did i paste to the irc again ? [20:53] Don't worry i build a good pwd gen [20:53] ur ok [20:54] Example -> 6tDDYJ8WwpTfmRrv [20:54] something u save as a txt file and copy / paste [20:54] Another one 3k8kE5dEvy3Evq5r [20:54] jfsimon1981, there was a password posted on chat a while ago, don't know if it happened more than once. [20:54] Yep i changed it now [20:55] yeah don't use those last two ;) [20:55] Thanks for notice [20:55] You added a "1" ? [20:55] they're just unique ones not in use [20:55] I made it with a c++ tool, it gens a 15 chars [20:55] EriC^^: Don't think it is the environment variables since "sudo -E -u USERNAME -s" doesn't work either. And it preserves all the environment variables which can be verified by running "env" afterwards. [20:55] carbonfiber: i think im close [20:55] dolphins is a good password [20:55] 1sec.. [20:55] EriC^^: that sounds interesting. [20:55] jfsimon1981, i think you can choose to authenticate as part of your connection, instead of a msg [20:56] yeah [20:56] i have mine in the server/connection tab [20:56] yes [20:57] anyone else using a PRIME or OPTIMUS lappy [20:57] and have it setup to actually use it [20:58] https://libera.chat/guides/sasl [20:59] thanks [21:00] carbonfiber: aha interesting [21:00] no dice here [21:01] :O [21:01] something to do with sudo for sure, i tried to login to root and it worked in the tty [21:01] carbonfiber: Can you restate what was happening? Sudo problems sounds familiar to me. [21:01] You might just need to update your system. [21:01] then tried sudo env and sudo env in tty vs display to see why does it work in the gui, no dice [21:01] maybe sudo changes something which isn't an environment variable? such as some tty properties or something. [21:03] hmm, bingo carbonfiber ! [21:03] carbonfiber: I see it. You may be running into a CVE fix in sudo that does weird stuff with pseudoterminals. Try updating your system, the latest version of sudo in Ubuntu should revert that fix and make things work right again. [21:03] i did sudo visudo, and put a comment before #Defaults use_pty and now it works with sudo nano filename in tty [21:03] carbonfiber: ^ [21:03] EriC^^: Yeah, that's the mess the update should undo. [21:04] arraybolt3: do you have any reference to the specific bug ID or something? [21:04] I do, let me dig it up. [21:05] wow. 1TB download for WarThunder 4 Linux [21:05] Looks unrelated, but this is the bug, I'm sure of it. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-default-settings/+bug/1965439 [21:05] sweet [21:05] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1965439 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu Jammy) "[SRU] kdesu fails to authenticate with sudo from Jammy" [High, In Progress] [21:05] Ouch, the fix actually hasn't been fully released yet. [21:05] It's still in the -proposed archive (don't enable that, there be dragons). [21:06] OK, just comment out that one line like EriC^^ was suggesting. [21:06] arraybolt3: thanks for the link. [21:08] EriC^^: thanks for finding the fix. [21:08] But I am not sure I entirely understand what the problem was. [21:08] beside sudo doing some wierd tty stuff. [21:09] carbonfiber: really it was your comment about sudo changing something other than an env var, same here [21:12] nhaines: Hey, if you're around, can you check your Reddit modmail? I just posted an official announcement related to Lubuntu on Reddit and don't have my Ubuntu Member flair yet. Would be awesome if that could happen very soon so that the post looks official. [21:13] (I have my Reddit username on my Launchpad account.) [21:14] carbonfiber: the sudo security fix is to prevent a program from shoving characters onto the terminal's input queue of whoever ran sudo; it's not a big deal when using a user account to elevate to root, since the program running as root can just run as root :) but it's a big deal for changing to other users, or worse yet, going from root down to a user [21:33] sarnold: hmm ok thanks. [21:35] But I still don't understand why nano then works partially. I would understand if the command ran with sudo could not output anything at all. But I don't understand why it is only selection using shift+arrows that doesnt work. [21:35] :S [21:35] carbonfiber: same here [21:36] carbonfiber: if you can find an answer to that I'd be very curious to hear the answer :) [21:36] :) [21:45] i'm using 22.04.1 LTS right now, and the email announcement for 22.10 makes it sound like i should be able to upgrade my installation today. however neither the GUI "Software Updater" program nor do-release-upgrade show a new release. anything i should do, or should i just wait a few days? [21:45] litheum: first, are you *sure* you want to upgrade? an lts is a pretty good place to sit.. [21:46] how can i blacvklist modules for booting ? i added lines blacklist mod_name into /etc/modules but they are still loaded during boot [21:47] sarnold: yes, this is a goofy laptop that i don't do anything important with [21:47] litheum: I'm not sure when exactly it'll happen, but sooner or later the new release will be added to https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release and then the upgrader will be able to upgrade to it easily; until then, you can use do-release-upgrade -d [21:47] litheum: sweet :D thanks [21:47] sarnold: Besides which I think default in etc/update-manager/release-upgrades is LTS [21:47] genii: oh right, I always forget that thing [21:48] ( when you're already on an LTS ) [21:49] genii: yeah, i updated that in the GUI config, and it looks like it's persisted correctly to that file [21:52] it seems so weird that these emails announcing the new release are out but https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release is not updated [21:56] litheum: aha check out [21:56] litheum: check *now* rather [21:56] my god my fingers are getting stupider every day [21:58] sarnold: hah, great timing! thank you :-) [21:59] litheum: it weren't me, I'm just connecting the dots, hehe [22:10] arraybolt3: done! :) [22:11] nhaines: Thank you so much! [22:11] arraybolt3: no problem. Thank you for your contributions to the Ubuntu community. :) [22:12] nhaines: Is it possible it will take a bit to show up? I'm not seeing it on my end. [22:12] Might take a minute or two. Reddit caches in mysterious ways. [22:13] It's showing up for me on old reddit. [22:13] :+1: Thank you! [22:18] thank you and congratulations to the release and web team [22:18] well don [22:18] e [22:34] @bansearch [22:35] @bansearch ItsFriday [22:48] On one of my machines I can see everytime it boots that something fails. How can I figure out what it is? [22:49] Aavar: /var/log/syslog can show you something, or journalctl -b 0 [22:57] murmel: thank you [23:03] Servers need to be nimble and flit from network to network. [23:03] n9nu, I think I've managed to make the iso fit into my 4GB usb by excluding the 390 version of the nvidia drivers. Those drivers are from the geforce 400 series era, so I'm not worried. [23:03] there ya go....good deal [23:03] jStefan: Is that the non-free driver image/ [23:03] ? [23:04] i always dump the other xservers as well - just me [23:04] jhutchins, yes, I believe so, and I can always install without the nvidia drivers, and get them later, I suppose. [23:05] I kept all the other nvidia drivers, i just needed to strip the 390's, that should give me the space I needed [23:05] it will install that nouveau crap by default [23:06] which is fine actually for most [23:06] i just prefer the oem [23:06] yeah, but it should boot and allow me to download once installed, in the hypothetical case that I do use a 400 series nvidia card [23:07] yeah..i should realize ur using ubuntu [23:07] im on debian....i come in here often though [23:08] aren't the debian installers usually smaller ? [23:08] actually i honestly don't know. [23:08] the install .iso is just under 4GB [23:09] however i use the rolling release like....Sid [23:09] i just update each night [23:13] seems the debian dvd image is 3.6GB, but i had to dig a little to find it, seems netinst image is more common? and that's around 400 MB [23:14] EriC^^ , arraybolt3 , sarnold : I found out what the issue was in more detail. It is actually rather simple when you know it. A pty master running in the linux console does not send the shift key as a standalone key to the pty slave, rather it sends the combined key. So "shift+a" does not send "shift+a" to the pty slave, it sends an "A". But it does not send shift together with the arrow keys. So nano running at the pty slave [23:14] never receives the shift key. [23:14] Running an ssh client from the linux console, have similar behavior. It also makes it so that text-selection using shift+arrow keys doesnt work. sudo with "use_pty" just works kinda similar to ssh. [23:15] yeah...i have a 2.5Gbit FTTH here so i use the net install [23:17] carbonfiber: *beautiful*! :D Thanks so much for reporting back! [23:18] np :) [23:38] jstefan: the netinst asks you which desktop you want and downloads it. unlike ubuntu which is only gnome, or a different iso if you want a different desktop. [23:39] plasma rules [23:39] enigma9o7, I'm just stubborn and sticking to a 4GB usb for too long :) ... and I'm still finding ways to stick with it [23:40] I was annoyed when distros stopped fitting on a CD. [23:40] But if they stop fitting on a DVD I'll be even more annoyed. [23:41] I just don't want to use a brand new 32GB (or more) to fit a 4.01 GB image on it. Seems like a waste? === anon is now known as Guest6988 [23:50] why does ubuntu not enable fast_commits upon creation of ext3 fs's. Are fast commits not ready for prime time? [23:50] ext4* [23:55] jStefan: probably the same reason anything doesn't enable anything new immediately [23:55] it was made available on kernel 5.10 [23:56] jStefan: it's probably worth a bug report to ask for the default to be flipped [23:56] jStefan: it might help to know if a filesystem written with the feature enabled can be properly consumed by earlier kernels