[01:24] <arraybolt3> zsyncing Xubuntu Core and preparing to test.
[01:38] <Unit193> I could alsalways do another one.
[03:11] <arraybolt3[m]> If you'd like to, I'll use it. One more just before release?
[03:11] <arraybolt3> Unit193: ^
[03:11] <Unit193> Before, after, same difference! :D
[03:12] <arraybolt3> Heh, funny. OK, will flash and fire up my test laptop.
[03:13] <Unit193> But in all seriousness, I tend to have one before I go to bed, and if there's any last minute changes I'll do another.  If not, then I'll finally link the last one, and by then it's usually been a few hours.
[03:15] <arraybolt3> Sounds good. /me preps to run the ISO through a solid battery of tests
[03:16] <arraybolt3> In case it's helpful, this is the test suite the Lubuntu project uses, and it's the one I use for pretty much everything. https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/testing-checklist/
[03:17] <arraybolt3> Not everything will apply in all situations (for instance Ubiquity doesn't have a swap or no swap setting), but a lot of it can carry over to other installers.
[06:17] <Unit193> arraybolt3: Going to presume you tested long ago and a respin now would be more of an annoyance than anything else?
[06:18] <arraybolt3> Respin would be great actually. I did one test which worked so far, and was just about to finish the rest of the battery.
[06:18] <arraybolt3> (I just finished Ubuntu Studio testing.)
[06:25] <arraybolt3> Unit193: ^ (just in case you missed it)
[06:26] <Unit193> I didn't, but it'll take 20 minutes.
[06:26] <arraybolt3> Ah. No problem, I'll be up that long.
[06:26] <Unit193> (Unless acng craps out, again...)
[06:49] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 22.10 - amd64 - amd64 built.
[06:50] <bluesabre> Nice
[07:05] <Unit193> Yeah that picked up a new ubiquity, so that'd be important.
[09:00] <arraybolt3> Unit193: Bad news about Xubuntu Core - encrypted installations with no Internet access are borked.
[09:00] <arraybolt3> Did two installs, the passphrase prompt isn't popping up and I get dropped to the initramfs shell.
[09:13] <arraybolt3> And a second Internet-allowed encrypted installation succeeded. So there's something critical related to encryption that's not on the ISO I'm guessing.
[09:16] <Unit193> Wonder if anyone has tested that before, ever...
[09:17] <arraybolt3> Encrypted installation without Internet access?
[09:17] <arraybolt3> (Also, good grief, did you *ever* get sleep?)
[09:17] <Unit193> I think sometime back in 2009.
[09:19] <Unit193> I'm not sure if that's worth re-spinning, but doing that.
[09:23] <arraybolt3> Also BTRFS installation via manual partitioning appears to be broken, do we care?
[09:26] <arraybolt3> Yeah, looks like btrfs-progs aren't installed. Probably on purpose.
[09:27] <arraybolt3> OK, one last install to test the use of an alternate language, then we're done!
[09:28] <Unit193> That one will be allowed now in the new image too.
[09:28] <Unit193> (Checked, saw it.  A couple other changes too.)
[09:29] <arraybolt3> We also test XFS in Lubuntu, so maybe looping xfsprogs in would be a good idea?
[09:29] <arraybolt3> I'll test those as well while I'm on a testing spree.
[09:32] <Unit193> reiserfsprogs was also excluded, but...I mean sure technically it *could* be pulled in, but at the time...  At this point, I don't remember if there was a reason, if btrfs/etc used to be (btrfs I'm pretty sure was, actually.) or what, so in theory I could be bringing in problems these fixed. :D
[09:33] <arraybolt3> Does anyone even use ReiserFS anymore?
[09:33] <Unit193> I hope not.
[09:34] <Unit193> I'd question the need for xfs, but iirc RedHat has that by default so I should likely allow it too.
[09:35] <Unit193> (FWIW, I'm not one of those "You must use it how I use it to be right" folks, really.)
[09:36] <arraybolt3> I'd say leave ReiserFS out. It's possibly dangerous, and may be removed from the kernel entirely. That would cause some problems on upgrade, I'd imagine.
[09:36] <Unit193> btrfs can certainly have data loss, but hey if that's what you want...
[09:41] <arraybolt3> Alright, waiting on respin, then will test BTRFS, XFS, no-Internet LVM+Encryption, and install alongside.
[09:41] <arraybolt3> If you don't mind I'm going to test those from the comfort of my VMs on my laptop rather than on baremetal, though, since I'm getting tired standing here.
[09:43] <Unit193> I mean that sounds like a lot of effort to me. :3
[09:43] <arraybolt3> I'm keeping this OS alive, darn it. It's an awesome idea, needs more publicity, and ought to continue to be available. :)
[09:44] <arraybolt3> If testing is the only thing between it and survival, I will test. And test. I've got all the hardware for it.
[09:46] <Unit193> Well, I mean I do kinda like but the build tools around it aren't exactly clean, so putting it to rest has an appeal of getting rid of thsoe. :P  But yeah, otherwise it's testing, basically.
[09:47] <arraybolt3> It's your OS. If you'd rather not do it, then don't, but if you like doing it and my help will help it, I'm more than happy to do it.
[09:49] <Unit193> Well, it's been an Xubuntu team effort really. :)
[09:49] <Unit193> (I just host/build it.)
[09:50] <Unit193> OH, am I doing something weird with zstd on it?  Nice. :D  It's squashing now.
[09:51] <Unit193> Oh, I'm not.  It's default in the initramfs.
[09:51] <Unit193> initrd?  Something.  Anywho.
[09:52] <arraybolt3> Initialization Ram Disk Filesystem. <-- +1
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[09:57] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 22.10 - amd64 - amd64 built.
[10:00] <arraybolt3> \o/
[10:07] <Unit193> Fetchable.
[10:10] <arraybolt3> Fetched.
[10:13] <arraybolt3> Just gotta say I love the wallpaper.
[10:25] <Unit193> It's not something I would pick, but does look decent.
[10:26] <Unit193> (Even if it's not for me, I think he does a good job every year.)
[10:30] <Unit193> arraybolt3: In case it's not obvious, you're making it better too.  Maybe someone else didn't try encrypted offline, or maybe they did and turned to something else instead.  Soo...
[10:32] <arraybolt3> Thanks :)
[10:34] <Unit193> (Also with mini.iso gone, the case for an Xubuntu Core ISO shoots up a bit...)
[11:09] <bluesabre> Possible release blocker mentioned in the flavors channel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1991725
[11:09] -ubottu:#xubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 1991725 in dkms (Ubuntu) "fails to sign kernel modules" [Undecided, Confirmed]
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[12:26] <arraybolt3> Montresor: All of the testing I've done on Xubuntu Core so far has been successful. I still have to do that LVM+Encryption, no internet test, but otherwise we're done!
[12:26] <Montresor> Great!
[12:27] <arraybolt3> Montresor: Also... where'd Unit193 go?
[12:27] <Montresor> Seems there will be a dkms respin, but I'm not sure that actually affects us.  Nice.  It'll still be late before I update the website though.
[12:28] <Montresor> arraybolt3: I'm one of those silly people that participate in holiday nicks, though I do it for a shorter time.
[12:28] <arraybolt3> Ah. I get it.
[12:29] <Montresor> When Winter/Christmas gets here, I'll wear JackFrost.  Then I'll keep wearing it.  My other ones for this holiday are Ichabod Crane and Mr Dark.
[12:46] <arraybolt3> Alright, even the offline encrypted installation test worked!
[12:48] <arraybolt3> I think that's probably tested well enough. I didn't try a separate /home partition, or install using existing partition, or BIOS installation tests, but everything else was tested.
[13:23] <Eickmeyer> Montresor wears costumes. It's his thing.
[18:58] <bluesabre> I updated the release pages and published the release announcement. Somebody check my work once caches expire. :)
[19:37] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: Apply translations in es @ https://github.com/Xubuntu/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/56d2044da8654a9658fed3bd27f68d91be886a19 (by transifex-integration)
[22:18] <Montresor> So I should release now, eh?
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[22:32] <Montresor> bluesabre: Thank you so much, and thanks for using a predictable location for the release notes!
[22:32] <Montresor> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/kinetic-kudu-release-notes/27976 is crapping out on me.. \o/
[22:33] <Montresor> https://unit193.net/xubuntu/core/ updated.