[00:00] <jStefan> sarnold, I think you can mount them without the journal, most likely read-only, still googling it
[00:02] <jStefan> sarnold, line 1995 seems to reference something about it: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/fs/ext4/ext4.h
[00:03] <sarnold> jStefan: awesome!
[00:04] <jStefan> that's master, here is the same comment on tag 5.10: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/v5.10/fs/ext4/ext4.h line 1881
[00:40] <dante> Moving Windows in Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is very laggy/buggy. How to fix this?
[00:40] <dante> It's like when Windows OS gets stuck and you can't move shit. I have 32GB of RAM btw.
[00:44] <realtime-neil__> How do I print all timezones without systemd?
[00:46] <sarnold> hah, how would you print them all *with* systemd?
[00:47] <sarnold> oh right, timedatectl
[00:47] <sarnold> hah
[00:47] <sarnold> realtime-neil__: try: echo /usr/share/zoneinfo/*/*
[00:50] <realtime-neil__> sarnold: it's close, but it's finding 51 extra zones
[00:51] <sarnold> realtime-neil__: my guess, without inspecting, is that there's duplicates in there
[00:51] <realtime-neil__> welp, awk to the rescue: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/698068
[00:51] <sarnold> ± find /usr/share/zoneinfo -type l | wc -l
[00:51] <sarnold> 758
[00:52] <sarnold> oh nice
[00:52] <realtime-neil__> This hits exactly: `awk '/^Z/ { print $2 }; /^L/ { print $3 }' /usr/share/zoneinfo/tzdata.zi | sort`
[00:52] <realtime-neil__> thanks for the help, sarnold
[00:52] <sarnold> \o/
[01:38] <noobXD> hi
[01:38] <sarnold> hello
[01:38] <arraybolt3> o/
[01:38] <arraybolt3> Anything we can help with?
[02:03] <jStefan> just tested my Custom USB on my 4GB drive, had to strip some files to make it fit. Seems fine. :)
[02:04] <sarnold> woot
[02:06] <jStefan> My 4 GB drive actually sums up to 3.7 "GiB" and that's smaller than the iso image by a little bit.
[02:09] <dabbler> What's the proper way to start KDE manually? The equivalent of 'systemctl start gdm' to start GNOME. I don't see any kdm, kde, plasma, or sddm mentions among the systemd services.
[02:10] <sarnold> I think gdm can start kde sessions, there's a little gear icon somewhere along the bottom, right?
[02:11] <Bashing-om> dabbler: My thought ^ ' sudo systemctl start graphical.target ' .
[02:14] <dabbler> sarnold: no :(
[02:14] <dabbler> Bashing-om: starting graphical seems to just start gdm
[02:15] <dabbler> There's a gear in the upper right, but it's a drop down of accessibility options
[02:20] <dabbler> The only things on screen are a list of users in center, clock at top, accessibility settings and system menu containing volume, screen brightness, power off, restart, etc. at top right. Everything else is just a black screen.
[02:26] <jStefan> dabbler, how did you install kde ?
[02:29] <dabbler> apt install plasma-desktop on ubuntu server
[02:31] <sarnold> dabbler: hrm :( that package sure looks like it'd bring in *so much stuff* it's hard to imagine that wasn't enough
[02:33] <dabbler> That's what I thought :)
[02:33] <murmel> dabbler: do you have gdm and sddm installed?
[02:33] <jStefan> dabbler, sarnold "kubuntu-desktop" seems to bring more?
[02:34] <murmel> jStefan: yeah that's basically kubuntu (with a server base)
[02:34] <dabbler> Yeah, it'll bring a whole suite of apps, though. I'd rather pick and choose
[02:35] <murmel> dabbler: if yes, I assume display-manager.service has the wrong dm
[02:37] <dabbler> gdm is installed. Hmm. sddm is not. I would've that would be a dependency of plasma-desktop
[02:38] <dabbler> Giving that a try now
[02:41] <Bashing-om> dabbler: Also - any hints as to what is not going on : env | grep XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ; apt list -a --installed '*session*' ?
[02:44] <dabbler> Ok, that did it. Now I can just start the sddm service
[02:44] <dabbler> Thanks!
[02:48] <jStefan> how can I navigate to the top right menu while on the login screen, without a mouse ?
[02:53] <Anonymous> TOPIC
[02:53] <Anonymous> #TOPIC
[02:55] <cwrong> hi
[02:56] <Bashing-om> cwrong: Hello - you have an Ubuntu support question ?
[03:03] <FreeBDSM_> hi, is there a way to tell a repo's package contents (files) without installing that package?
[03:04] <Zeebra410> Hi
[03:04] <Bashing-om> FreeBDSM_: ' apt show <package> ' ?
[03:05] <FreeBDSM_> Bashing-om, doesn't list files
[03:05] <jStefan> FreeBDSM_, you could use the website: packages.ubuntu.com/packagename
[03:06] <Zeebra410> Covid19 Was made in a lab, and Covid19's Vaccine weakens your immune system and leads to cancer.
[03:06] <Bashing-om> FreeBDSM_: ^ my goto also :D
[03:06] <FreeBDSM_> that's a lame way
[03:07] <jStefan> FreeBDSM_, you could download the .deb file and use dpkgdeb to get info on the package including --contents
[03:07] <FreeBDSM_> I'll prefer an even lamer way then: use docker to install the package and do `dpkg -L` on it
[03:08] <FreeBDSM_> is there a difference between libs .so and .so.2 files?
[03:08] <jStefan> FreeBDSM_, google says to try: apt-file list package_name
[03:09] <rbox> FreeBDSM_: .so is gonna be a link to .so.2... .so is used for compiling
[03:09] <jStefan> FreeBDSM_, might need a sudo apt-file update
[03:10] <jStefan> FreeBDSM_, another alternate: apt-get --download-only install pkgname. then use dpkgdeb on the file in /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:12] <FreeBDSM_> apt-file is smth non-standard
[03:15] <murmel> FreeBDSM_: and why is it non-standard?
[03:17] <blei> i upgraded to kinetic and my internet is not working properly. most sites fail to load. most tools that require the internet dont work
[03:17] <blei> i tried ethernet and iphone+usb, both have the same problems
[03:17] <blei> there seems to be an issue with name resolution
[03:19] <jStefan> blei, try: dig ubuntu.com @8.8.8.8    you may change the ip to your dns server too, try both
[03:22] <FreeBDSM_> murmel, non installed by default
[03:22] <jStefan> without the @8.8.8.8 it will just use your default dns
[03:22] <murmel> FreeBDSM_: so? are you not allowed to install packages on the OS?
[03:23] <FreeBDSM_> no point in arguing
[03:23] <FreeBDSM_> rbox, turns out if one installs `libjemalloc2` (without `libjemalloc-dev`) - there's just .so.2 without soft link .so pointing to .so.2
[03:23] <FreeBDSM_> I wonder if I can just LD_PRELOAD .so.2 directly
[03:24] <rbox> FreeBDSM_: yes... because as i said... the .so is for compiling
[03:24] <rbox> hence the dev pacakge
[03:25] <FreeBDSM_> now I am confused
[03:26] <FreeBDSM_> I don't have the full understanding of my colleagues' work (in terms of Dockerfile). We build our app and now want to try to just run it with libjemalloc - can't I just take the image with already built app, install libjemalloc2 package via apt and just LD_PRELOAD the .so.2 to make the app use that lib?
[03:26] <FreeBDSM_> afaiu - that should work
[03:27] <FreeBDSM_> can I just test it with ldd to see if the lib will actually be used?
[03:27] <FreeBDSM_> would*
[03:34] <FreeBDSM_> wait, no, ldd is for files, not processes
[03:46] <FreeBDSM_> well, lsof over the process lists the file, I hope I did everything right
[03:46] <FreeBDSM_> thanks for all the help
[04:17] <yukiup> is it bad to install ubuntu from a uefi usb stick?
[04:18] <rbox> versus doing what
[04:18] <yukiup> the bios gives me two boot options for a usb stick. uefi and not uefi
[04:18] <ravage> you usually want uefi
[04:18] <rbox> well if you're bios is in uefi mode, you have to boot with uefi to install with uefi, so it will be bootable
[04:19] <ravage> if you already have other OSes installed choose the same method as the others
[04:21] <enigma9o7> uefi to me sounds gross, i'd avoid it
[04:22] <rbox> rofl
[04:23] <yukiup> yah, i'm thinking the same thing enigma9o7
[04:28] <FreeBDSM_> uefi is like iphone 14 compared to outdated bios which is like iphone 3g
[04:57] <DumbLDoor> Hello! Anything on 22.10 yet?
[04:58] <ravage> https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-releases-ubuntu-22-10-kinetic-kudu
[05:00] <DumbLDoor> ty @ ravage but upgrade instruction are not working.
[05:02] <Bashing-om> DumbLDoor: Wgat is set for the upgrade path - ' grep -i ^prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' ?
[05:03] <Bashing-om> What*
[05:03] <DumbLDoor> @Bashing-om. I checked for the same using UI. Thank you for the help, dunno how I missed it.
[05:04] <DumbLDoor> @Bashing-om. Cya after the upgrade, thanks once again!
[05:04] <Bashing-om> DumbLDoor: Easy enough to overlook :D
[06:13] <||--||> Can anyone give info on converting Ubuntu to an A/B partition scheme with readonly/overlayfs and cloning the OS partition + switching which boots after an update?
[06:24] <alkisg> ...that would require 10 wiki pages to document it properly :D
[06:25] <alkisg> A small hint though, if it's readonly it doesn't need to be a partition, it can be a single squashfs file
[06:26] <alkisg> (of course one for A and one for B)
[08:08] <ironwolf_11> I tried to upgrade (sudo -H do-release-upgrade) to kinetic from jammy using a local (on disk) mirror, I'm using file:/path/to/mirror in my /etc/apt/sources.list, when I attempt the upgrade, it keeps my third party sources, but seems to remove the file:/path/to/us.archive.ubuntu.com/* paths, and gives me an error about 'package "ubuntu-minimal" could not be located.' and exits the attempted upgrade.  What could I doing wrong?
[08:08] <ironwolf_11> *be, what could I be doing wrong?
[08:20] <SteelRose> Hi all!
[08:20] <SteelRose> I'm installing Redis on a fresh Vagrant instance and run into this issues: https://pastebin.com/YDZW0vCG
[08:21] <SteelRose> any ideas? Thanks!
[08:35] <Mandrake64> So I just updated to Ubuntu 22.10 on Dell xps 9510, but it seems the new kernel (5.19.0-21) causes flicker on the laptop display...
[08:35] <cent> I want to build R from source code, but have not sufficiently installed x11 libraries.
[08:35] <cent> What are the basic x11 lib package names? Just the core.
[08:36] <cent> So far I have installed only libx11-dev
[08:36] <SteelRose> cent: don't they list the requirements to build it on their website?
[08:37] <cent> SteelRose, No.
[08:37] <SteelRose> Mandrake64: do you have an NVIDIA graphics card?
[08:37] <cent> Or better, I have not noticed.
[08:38] <SteelRose> https://docs.rstudio.com/resources/install-r-source/  <-- is this the page you're following?
[08:38] <SteelRose> sudo apt-get build-dep r-base
[08:38] <SteelRose> did you do it?
[08:38] <Mandrake64> SteelRose, yes I do, the nvidia 3050 ti mobile. And the nvidia 510.85.02 drivers
[08:39] <SteelRose> Mandrake64: try: apt autoremove
[08:39] <SteelRose> Mandrake64: and clean up remains
[08:39] <SteelRose> then reboot and login again
[08:40] <MinusSeven> Just updated to 22.10 today
[08:41] <MinusSeven> seem to have went smoothly
[08:41] <MinusSeven> first time I've done it this way, usually I do a reinstall.
[08:41] <cent> libxt-dev did the trick as that is being included in the configure script :)
[08:42] <SteelRose> MinusSeven: I had chosen 22.04 though...
[08:42] <SteelRose> cent: nice
[08:42] <MinusSeven> probably not much advantage to updating to 22.10, but was happy it worked
[08:42] <SteelRose> MinusSeven: if I understand it correctly, 22.10 is an unstable version, isn't it?
[08:43] <MinusSeven> yes
[08:43] <MinusSeven> I believe so
[08:43] <SteelRose> perhaps that explains the flickering
[08:43] <MinusSeven> but will see how it goes
[08:43] <SteelRose> very well
[08:43] <MinusSeven> haven't seen anyt SIGTERM's yet
[08:43] <MinusSeven> oops
[08:44] <SteelRose> ...speaking of the Devil?... :-)
[08:44] <MinusSeven> i wonder what caused that
[08:44] <MinusSeven> anyway, have to go
[08:44] <MinusSeven> have fun
[08:46] <Mandrake64> SteelRose, unfortunately that didn't do the trick
[08:48] <Mandrake64> I have also tried a bunch of kernel parameters, like; nvidia-drm.modeset=0, i915.enable_dc=0, i915.enable_psr=0, intel_idle.max_cstate=2, intel_iommu=igfx_off
[08:50] <SteelRose> Mandrake64: try with Ubuntu 22.04 instead
[08:50] <SteelRose> NVIDIA drivers are, sometimes, a bit behind the kernel
[08:51] <Mandrake64> Thanks  :)   Am just using the old kernel (5.15) with the new ubuntu 22.10. So far it seems fine
[09:06] <adac> Guys I need to install terraform via external hashicorp repository. I was following this howto: https://developer.hashicorp.com/terraform/cli/install/apt however when I try to do an "apt-get update"  I get these errors: https://pastebin.com/19crHJkN
[09:06] <adac> Any ideas what might be wrong here?
[09:12] <adac> It works  if I remove the sgined_by: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/hashicorp-archive-keyring.gpg]     https://apt.releases.hashicorp.com focal main
[09:13] <adac> previously I did: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys xxxxxx
[09:59] <webchat41> Hello, I'm having troubles with zotero-snap on my Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS and am too stupid to resolve the problem with google. I'm not sure what or if I changed anything critical previously, but it doesn't open. Trying to open from the shell gives the error: " Error: cannot open display: :0 ". Any troubleshooting advice?
[09:59] <webchat41> (It worked previously, a couple days ago)
[10:02] <SteelRose> webchat41: export DISPLAY=.0:0
[10:03] <SteelRose> webchat41: you might need to run: xhost +   first
[10:04] <webchat41> SteelRose:
[10:04] <webchat41> ~$ export DISPLAY=.0:0
[10:05] <webchat41> ~$ zotero-snap
[10:05] <webchat41> Error: cannot open display: .0:0
[10:05] <webchat41> ~$ xhost +
[10:05] <webchat41> xhost:  unable to open display ".0:0"
[10:05] <SteelRose> webchat41: oops! export DISPLAY=:0.0
[10:05] <SteelRose> litte typo
[10:06] <webchat41> Error: cannot open display: :0.0 after that
[10:07] <webchat41> tried running xhost + in between, tells me: access control disabled, clients can connect from any host now
[10:07] <webchat41> with DISPLAY set to :0.0
[10:08] <fortnhyver11> buongiorno a Tutti
[10:08] <webchat41> btw, I already tried reboot previously SteelRose, but that didn't fix the error sadly
[10:09] <SteelRose> webchat41: are you trying to run the snap as a different user?
[10:09] <fortnhyver11> il debian è pulito si può traslare su Mint?
[10:09] <webchat41> I only have one user, and I'm not in root mode or anything SteelRose
[10:10] <SteelRose> fortnhyver11: English, please
[10:10] <SteelRose> webchat41: weird
[10:11] <fortnhyver11> thank You ok the debian repository is clean but It can be put in Linux Mint?
[10:11] <SteelRose> webchat41: have you tried with the official tarball? https://www.zotero.org/download/
[10:11] <SteelRose> fortnhyver11: yes
[10:12] <fortnhyver11> ok
[10:12] <webchat41> SteelRose not yet, but I'm perplexed because the zotero-snap worked previously
[10:12] <SteelRose> webchat41: they don't offer a snap in their website...
[10:12] <webchat41> SteelRose there is one in the Ubuntu Software center thing though
[10:13] <webchat41> I'm going to instll the tarball
[10:14] <ravage> webchat41, https://github.com/extraymond/zotero-snap/issues/25
[10:14] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 25 in extraymond/zotero-snap "Cannot open display" [Open]
[10:15] <SteelRose> webchat41: I installed Zotero from snap. It runs flawlessly
[10:15] <awilkins> Question - why is `nvidia-driver-515-open` marked as the "tested" GPU driver package when it doesn't work (without manual(?) configuration) on desktop GPU units? (see https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules/issues/394 )
[10:15] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 394 in NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules "My pc hang if choose nvidia (open kernel) metapackage from nvidia-515-open (propietery,tested)" [Open]
[10:16] <webchat41> thanks ravage, rolling back so i can continue to work and then later bother about either installing the tarball properly or seeing if the zotero-snap gets fixed in an update. Also thanks for the troubleshooting help SteelRose :)
[10:16] <webchat41> Going to leave for now, thanks for the help!
[10:17] <SteelRose> webchat41: anytime
[11:23] <JackBauer> Hey guys! I want to upgrade from 22.04 to 22.10 but the updater is aborting without an error. Even the log in /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log isn't conclusive to me. Does someone have an idea what I could do to find out what the issue is?
[11:36] <lotuspsychje_> JackBauer: could you pastebin the whole apt logs please so volunteers can see whats happening?
[11:37] <JackBauer> lotuspsychje_, I will - right now there appears to be a new update for snapd, which I need to install first before trying the release upgrade again
[11:39] <mgedmin> are you using the gui or sudo do-release-upgrade?
[11:41] <JackBauer> mgedmin, both just abort
[11:42] <JackBauer> I'll reboot, BRB
[11:43] <JackBauer> re
[11:44] <JackBauer> How can I solve this? The following packages have been kept back: snapd
[11:45] <JackBauer> Because right now do-release-upgrade says "Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading."
[11:45] <lotuspsychje_> !uptodate
[11:47] <JackBauer> That didn't do it but 'sudo apt install snapd' did :)
[11:54] <JackBauer> Here is my paste of /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PwY8wDmyWX/
[11:56] <JackBauer> I don't see an obvious reason in there for aborting the release upgrade
[11:57] <mgedmin> does /var/log/dist-upgrade/screenlog.0 say anything interesting?
[11:58] <mgedmin> the 'DEBUG abort called' is a bit of a clue, but it doesn't say why abort was called
[11:58] <mgedmin> fwiw a successful 22.04 -> 22.10 upgrade main.log has no such line in it
[12:03] <JackBauer> mgedmin, this is the content of /var/log/dist-upgrade/screenlog.0: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BDYmsmZnDw/
[12:03] <JackBauer> Also doesn't give a clue about the abort reason
[12:03] <JackBauer> :/
[12:04] <mgedmin> ah yes I see what you mean about "aborting witout an error"
[12:04] <mgedmin> this is very annoying, I would report a bug
[12:04] <JackBauer> Do you happen to have a link to the right place to report it?
[12:04] <mgedmin> if you run ubuntu-bug with no arguments it gives you a list of choices, where 'release-upgrade' is one of the choices
[12:05] <JackBauer> Great, thanks
[12:05] <mgedmin> it'll then attach the important log files from /var/log/dist-upgrade to the bug
[12:05] <mgedmin> "do-release-upgrade aborts without giving a reason" is probably a good issue title
[12:07] <JackBauer> Thanks for your help
[12:10] <jordana> Hi, I am struggling with wake from sleep on 22.10 Kinetic with Raspberry Pi 4 (4G). It regularly stuck on black. I can resurrect by switching away to tty(3-6) and back to tty2. I see another graphical login on tty1 but that logs out every time I switch away from it.
[12:36] <DumbLDoor> Hi All! 22.10 does not detect my hdmi monitor speakers or USB speakers.
[12:36] <DumbLDoor> It appears to be a known bug
[12:46] <Anorak> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1403665/no-sound-output-devices-listed-after-upgrade-from-21-10-to-22-04
[12:47] <Anorak> Different version, but you could try a few of the given solutions
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:17] <kaigal> hi
[13:45] <DockerOnMacOS> Hey all ^^
[13:46] <DockerOnMacOS> Just to clarify, is it possible to install Ubuntu on MacMini 2018?
[13:46] <DockerOnMacOS> The main interest is in drivers...
[13:46] <DockerOnMacOS> Is it supported?
[13:54] <tomreyn> DockerOnMacOS: please don't cross post (#linux)
[15:07] <pfs> I updated to Ubuntu 22.10 and now no sound. Should I reinstall Ubuntu or is there a fix coming for pipewire?
[15:09] <omar> hello
[15:09] <BluesKaj> pfs, does aplay -l show any devices?
[15:10] <pfs> yes
[15:11] <ioria> pfs, have you tried to restart pipewire ?
[15:11] <pfs> yes
[15:11] <ioria> how ?
[15:12] <BluesKaj> pfs, which brand ?
[15:12] <pfs> I terminated the process and restarted my Thinkpad X270.
[15:14] <ioria> pfs, systemctl --user restart pipewire pipewire-pulse ,then  run :  systemctl --user daemon-reload
[15:14] <gneeriiloeepdeer> I need a command to check my cpu's temperature
[15:15] <jhutchins> !lmsensors
[15:16] <pfs> ioria, I have done it but audio is not there :(
[15:16] <pfs> https://i.imgur.com/PYx4gHU.png
[15:17] <pfs> It shows only dummy output in the gui
[15:17] <BluesKaj> pfs, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel, then reboot
[15:20] <pfs> i have done it and rebooted but still no sound :(
[15:21] <hermano> I have a apple trackpad connected to a PC installed with ubuntu 22.04. It works fine but everytime I start the computer it does not enable the trackpad.
[15:21] <pfs> Should I maybe delete everything from pipewire and reinstall it?
[15:30] <goddard> so i am using the open nvidia driver and it looks like my laptop hdmi port is no longer recognized
[15:30] <goddard> is this normal?
[15:31] <RikMills> goddard: what version? and what card?
[15:31] <goddard> 3080 max q
[15:31] <goddard> 515
[15:31] <johnfg> hi folks.  I'm still trying to get remote desktop right.
[15:32] <johnfg> What's the URL to paste an image?
[15:32] <RikMills> goddard: 515.76?
[15:32] <goddard> RikMills: it doesn't say in additional drivers
[15:33] <goddard> but just using the drivers provided by ubuntu
[15:33] <RikMills> might well be LP: #1993041
[15:33] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1993041 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-515 (Ubuntu) "nvidia-driver-515 (515.76-0ubuntu0.22.04.1): blank screen after boot, can't log in" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1993041
[15:33] <Eickmeyer> goddard: Do you have the proprietary Nvidia drivers installed?
[15:34] <Eickmeyer> Most laptops with Nvidia graphics don't let you use the HDMI port on powersave mode on the graphics, so I have reason to believe you might be on an nvidia-prime mode that needs to be changed.
[15:34] <goddard> RikMills: ya that looks about right.  I have 3 displays.  The built in on the laptop and 1 running off the usb-c and another off the dedicated hdmi port.  All work except the one running off the built in HDMI port
[15:35] <goddard> i have nvidia settings set to "on-demand"
[15:35] <Eickmeyer> goddard: This might be as simple as updating your system, followed by a "sudo prime-select nvidia && reboot".
[15:36] <goddard> ill give it a shot thanks
[15:37] <goddard> gonna test my eGPU with the new open drivers as well
[15:37] <johnfg> https://imgur.com/a/HByT4eC is this all I have to have on ubuntu?
[15:37] <goddard> evertyhing seems smooth though
[15:37] <RikMills> Eickmeyer: goddard the fix for jammy is still in proposed I think
[15:37] <goddard> ahh
[15:38] <RikMills> or at least the fix that is a revert to 515.65.01
[15:38] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: Sure, but the HDMI port on most laptops is owned by the nvidia chipset, and the intel chipset might be getting in the way. Setting prime-select to nvidia eliminates that.
[15:39] <RikMills> yes, the revert is still in proposed
[15:40] <goddard> nvidia-smi says "Unable to determine the device handle for GPU 0000:01:00.0: Not Found"
[15:40] <goddard> maybe because i had egpu switcher installed though
[15:40] <goddard> i don't know
[15:43] <Eickmeyer> goddard: eGPUs can be their own ball of wax sometimes.
[15:43] <cdriscol1> Is there a channel that's best to ask a question in related to adding a newer kernel to an Ubuntu ISO (via xorriso, unsquashfs, chroot, installing kernel via dpkg)?
[15:46] <Eickmeyer> goddard: If my solution didn't work, then you're most certainly running into the bug RikMills linked to above.
[15:48] <aydin> hi
[15:50] <pfs> What is the best way to delete everything from pipwire? I want to reinstall it. Is there anything I need to consider?
[15:56] <pfs> https://i.imgur.com/lI5gk7o.png I got my sound back by turning Pulseaudio back on.. thx for all that helped me
[16:00] <jhutchins> cdriscoll: How many systems are you planning to apply this to?
[16:01] <cdriscoll> @jhutchins: Unknown for sure, but possibly less than a dozen
[16:01] <jhutchins> cdriscoll: It's probably more practical to just manually apply the changes.
[16:03] <cdriscoll> @jhutchins: I don't disagree, but I'd like it to be as easy for the end-user as possible.  I'd like the kernel to be installed and used with the initial OS install.
[16:04] <cdriscoll> This is a case where remote folks will be installing the OS via writing the ISO to USB on machines that perform better with a more recent kernel
[16:05] <oerheks> cdriscoll, maybe cubic is your answer https://launchpad.net/~cubic-wizard/+archive/ubuntu/release
[16:06] <cdriscoll> Yeah, Cubic seems to accomplish what I want, but I already have a script that decompiles/recompiles an ISO with some customizations.  I'm just failing to get the kernel portion working.  I prefer the script method as it's automatable vs the Cubic GUI
[16:07] <cdriscoll> I'm not sure what Cubic is doing to get the newer kernel working vs. my method :(
[16:08] <jhutchins> cdriscoll: Can these be managed remotely with a tool like ansible?
[16:08] <cdriscoll> They cannot.
[16:09] <jhutchins> So what about an iso with a script that just runs apt install <file>?
[16:10] <jhutchins> You can even make it auto-run.
[16:10] <jhutchins> Also a live CD.
[16:10] <jhutchins>  /iso
[16:11] <jhutchins> Trying to do it with the installer doesn't seem appropriate.
[16:13] <cdriscoll> I /could/ do that.  Though just having the kernel as the ISO's "built-in" kernel seems the most appropriate to me?  I'm downloading the kernel .debs via wget in the chroot environment (unsquashed fs) and installing via dpkg.  The kernels are installed, but it seems that the initrd and vmlinuz files don't get copied to /boot for some reason.
[16:25] <Grepnix>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Grepnix SeSquip123
[16:26] <jhutchins> Grepnix: You probably want to change that.
[16:29] <Grepnix> yeah...   SIlly me
[16:33] <nteodosio> Ah, it's worth enabling SASL authentication, check your IRC clients settings (sorry if you already knew that).
[16:35] <ogra> jhutchins, regarding re-packaging debs as snaps ... here is another example where this is immensely useful (my lunch-break work from today BTW) https://snapcraft.io/unifi-unofficial ...
[16:35] <Grepnix> thanks nteodosio
[16:38] <Grepnix> nteodosio: Done now...
[16:38] <nteodosio> Grepnix, great! Now you don't have to type it anymore (:
[16:38] <Grepnix> yay!
[17:27] <obnoxious> hello ia m running ubuntu 22 on my server and port 53 isnt available but systemd-resolved is not in use what use could be running
[17:27] <obnoxious> ?
[17:27] <obnoxious> what else*
[17:28] <obnoxious> netstat -Tulpn doesnt say program just 127.0.0.1 program is blank
[17:28] <obnoxious> 127.0.0.1:53*
[17:29] <rfm> obnoxious, hard to say since you've obviously customised something.  maybe bind, or dnsmasq?  lsof can list the process listening but I forget the syntax
[17:29] <obnoxious> i did not customize something
[17:29] <obnoxious> ls of also did not list
[17:29] <obnoxious> maybe the server company customized the distro?
[17:30] <obnoxious> ill see if its bind
[17:30] <obnoxious> i tried apt remove dnsmasq and remove bind both said not installed, not sure if those are the package names
[17:32] <ioria> obnoxious, ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[17:33] <obnoxious> https://bitwarden.obnoxious.lol/#/send/PZy33Fmcykqkoa81ASFaJQ/0zOArE9Z3MDTMpyi-5pBOw
[17:33] <obnoxious> that is me checking all packages with name dns
[17:33] <obnoxious> but ill try that now
[17:34] <obnoxious> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 Apr 21  2022 /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf
[17:37] <obnoxious> hmmm going to try messing with the resolv.conf
[17:37] <obnoxious> oh resolv.conf had
[17:37] <obnoxious> has
[17:37] <obnoxious> nameserver 127.0.0.53
[17:37] <obnoxious> options edns0 trust-ad
[17:37] <obnoxious> search
[17:38] <ioria> obnoxious, that it's ok; is systemd-resolved running ?
[17:38] <obnoxious> i dont believe so
[17:39] <obnoxious> oh it is
[17:39] <obnoxious> it wasnt before..
[17:39] <obnoxious> ig i did something wrong to check before
[17:39] <ioria> obnoxious, ps -A | grep resol
[17:39] <obnoxious> thanks i think this should solve it
[17:39] <ioria> ok
[18:06] <xipper> Can I use a Yubikey to encrypt/decrypt files on Ubuntu?
[18:06] <oerheks> xipper, sure, they have a page avout this https://support.yubico.com/hc/en-us/articles/360013790259-Using-Your-YubiKey-with-OpenPGP
[18:07] <xipper> oerheks: thank you very much
[18:44] <johnfg> Any ideas on why I can't login through remote desktop?
[18:49] <jhutchins> johnfg: What are you running?  What server?  What client?
[18:49] <jhutchins> johnfg: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[19:20] <GSMarquis> 22.10 has a buggy dark mode retention.
[20:21] <AstroGhost> Hello!
[20:33] <tomreyn> hi AstroGhost
[20:34] <scarletmarauder> Hello so I am trying to figure out the best way to merge two directories. (The directories may have some hardlinked files within them, and there may be some duplicated files within them)
[20:35] <scarletmarauder> Would something like
[20:35] <scarletmarauder> rsync -h -v --ignore-existing --remove-source-files -F--min-size=100 --size-only /Directory1 /directory2
[20:35] <scarletmarauder> (the filesystem has hardlinks)
[20:36] <scarletmarauder> (Directory2 is the larger of the two directories )
[20:50] <blackop> hi. where can i download official kinetic kudu purple wallpaper?
[20:50] <blackop> cool release and wallpaper
[20:52] <atlef> blackop, https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALiCzsar24HEig2f9hhoWRdLWsysVi2ulg:1666385529487&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=ubuntu+wallpaper+22.10&client=firefox-b-d&fir=LsTGN8Y9I-gMJM%252CbUvM_g5aE2q9hM%252C_%253BfapFoRwT-jvfIM%252CZP4uWaIUiF1h7M%252C_%253Bnbj3vnENBIYejM%252CLRVXAo65csaHaM%252C_%253BoPkmRUEZWfyfWM%252CNy2Lbu7DYLczNM%252C_%253BGuR4oFkrqk-QIM%252CNy2Lbu7DYLczNM%252C_%253BuNVqSQ7W_RIgWM%252CbUvM_g5aE2q9hM%252C_%253BlCFyCkUWD0GtfM%252CbUvM_g5aE2q9hM%252
[20:52] <atlef> C_%253BLKU83OdH5JcSqM%252CbUvM_g5aE2q9hM%252C_%253BYsVHNmSLUW8RFM%252CbUvM_g5aE2q9hM%252C_%253Bb_n_xLfl7yLJ-M%252CNy2Lbu7DYLczNM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kRKUfaAjpak-hH4sfuMTzTcdgC7Xg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjbu6zsmfL6AhWGlosKHXhhCT4QjJkEegQIBxAC&biw=1912&bih=955
[20:53] <atlef> sorry
[20:54] <blackop> ..
[20:55] <blackop> i already googled. just cant find any link to download high res.
[20:56] <blackop> i downloaded wallpaper pack from launchpad but it only contains kudu grey wallpaper, not purple one
[20:56] <krytarik> blackop: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/ubuntu-wallpapers/ubuntu/files
[20:58] <blackop> krytarik: yes that s what i mean. there is no purple wapllpaper
[20:58] <blackop> just grey
[20:59] <krytarik> Well, I'm seeing two kinds of purple ones there..
[20:59] <blackop> not the default one
[20:59] <blackop> i am looking for this one > https://149366088.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/ubuntu-kudu-wallpaper.jpg
[21:01] <krytarik> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/ubuntu-wallpapers/ubuntu/view/head:/warty-final-ubuntu.png
[21:03] <blackop> oh right. i was looking for kudu
[21:04] <blackop> thanks krytarik
[21:04] <krytarik> Yw.
[21:06] <blackop> does that package include all ubuntu wallpapers all time?
[21:06] <blackop> since 1st version?
[21:08] <krytarik> If you include the version history, then maybe it does.
[21:09] <krytarik> Because for example the official wallpaper always has the same file name, so you'd have to go back in history on it.
[21:11] <krytarik> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/ubuntu-wallpapers/ubuntu/changes?filter_path=warty-final-ubuntu.png - like so.
[21:13] <||--||> I dropped by earlier and asked about converting Ubuntu Server to A/B readonly rootfs + overlay. I am familiar with partitioning and formatting and fstab and whatnot, and I suppose I'm looking for information on how to swap out the active root partition in grub config? Also, do I need to modify one image to point at the second partition, or is there some way to change the device name from GRUB/kernel options so the images can stay the
[21:13] <||--||> same.
[21:14] <sarnold> ||--||: maybe the grub-set-default(8) program can help you out; I'm not entirely sure ..
[21:15] <sarnold> ||--||: it sounds a bit like you're trying to build something like https://ubuntu.com/core -- maybe you could just use this and skip the dev work? :)
[21:19] <||--||> I'm actually trying to replicate that partitioning scheme, boot loader configuration, and update mechanism using Ubuntu Serevr instead of Core. Do you know if the way Core deals with A/B root fs images can be leveraed by a Server install?
[21:21] <sarnold> ||--||: I haven't tried using core myself, my guess is that it probably can't be just lifted over to server, it's probably pretty specific to delivering updates via snaps, etc
[21:22] <ubuking> HELP
[21:22] <ubuking> NOW
[21:22] <ubuking> !!!!!!!
[21:22] <ubuking> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:22] <||--||> ubuking: what's wrong?
[21:22] <ogra> ||--||, well, core is different, it does not use partitions for the A/B stuff but squashfs filesystems (snaps) it switches between
[21:23] <ubuking> hello my name is julian abheide
[21:23] <ubuking> i am 27 year old and i have quesution  about ubuntu and mark shuttleworth!!
[21:23] <||--||> right, I wanted to use ro root + overlay2 tmpfs + a separate data partition. I see how core wouldn't work if it doesn't have a real A/B setup.
[21:24] <ubuking> i  need help now
[21:24] <ubuking> now -not later.
[21:24] <ogra> ||--||, the A/B handling is a core feature of snaps, so UbuntuCore just utilizes that for rootfs (which is a readonly snap) and kernel (which is a snap as well in Core)
[21:24] <||--||> I did look at SWUpdate that does what I want but I'm not sure how to borrow just the GRUB config part from it. I don't need everything else.
[21:24] <||--||> ubuking: just ask your question, pal
[21:24] <sarnold> ubuking: you may find this helpful https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc/
[21:25] <ubuking> here  is the QUESTION!!!!!!!
[21:25] <ubuking> is ubuntu 22.10 better than ???? 22.04?!?!?
[21:25] <ogra> it is definitely newer ... but also less long supported
[21:25] <||--||> no, definitely not. Ubuntu gets worse as the numbers increase. It's stated in the Code of Conduct. orders from Linus Torvalds himself. can't do anything about it
[21:26] <ogra> lol
[21:26] <ubuking> support doesn matter
[21:26] <ubuking> i dont do updates and so on
[21:26] <ogra> well, then you better not go online with that machine
[21:26] <||--||> if support doesn't matter, then why are you in here? this is "support"
[21:27] <ubuking> more updates pc gets more sloowly
[21:27] <ubuking> you see the point?!
[21:28] <||--||> ogra: Is the grub-set-default somehow scriptable from GRUB itself? I think part of the A/B update requriements is that the boot loader settings persist from one boot to the nest
[21:29] <||--||> ubuking: by that logic, you should remove the code you'll never run on your computer
[21:29] <sarnold> excellent idea :)
[21:29] <||--||> lol nah, the code that doesn'tt run is usually the fastest
[21:30] <sarnold> fastest *and* safest!
[21:31] <ogra> ||--||, you can surely mangle grub config from userspace with that, yeah ... it might be tricky to set it up in a way that it does not explodes when "normal" updates kick in and call update-grub ... so you should integrate well with that bit
[21:31] <EriC^> /etc/grub.d/__stuff run after update-grub fwiw
[21:32] <||--||> sarnold: nahh, usualy the least safe. it's old code that never runs that usually has old bugs that can be exploited. the code you don't run can be your biggest liability
[21:32] <sarnold> ||--||: better to just delete it all
[21:32]  * sarnold nods
[21:33] <||--||> ogra: I would disable normal updates. I am doing this so I can deliver my own A/B updates instead of the default.
[21:35] <||--||> The truth is that I want to edit the grub config from the bootloader. I wan to try booting partition A and if that doesn't work then switch to partition B
[21:36] <ogra> well, yu want a boot script but you also need something from userspace that tells this script if the boot succeeded ...
[21:36] <ogra> and that isnt where it stops, you need watchdogs galore ...
[21:37] <ogra> (a hang that does not trigger a reboot isnt helpful)
[21:38] <sarnold> yay dogs :D
[21:39] <||--||> I was wondering what the better approach is: watchdog or userspace setting? If I can set grub config values from userspace (I can) then that's easy to implement. I am not very familair with hardware watchdog support in bootloaders. Only the kernel support offered through /dev/watchdog
[21:40] <ogra> ||--||, what we started with in Core was simply panic=-1 on the kernel cmdline ... then you need something in the initrd that monitors hangs, then indeed the systemd watchdog and if you have also a HW watchdog ...
[21:48] <||--||> ogra: so it reboots after 1 second and then how did you track whether boot succeded or not?
[21:51] <ogra> ||--||, -1 means immediately ... no 1sec delay 🙂
[21:51] <ogra> snapd sets a flag in he bootloader config
[21:51] <ogra> once itself could start it considers the boot "successful enough"
[21:52] <||--||> oh I didn't see the -1
[21:52] <||--||> gotcha
[22:02] <yin846> hello. im using lvm and i renamed the default volume group and logical volume. how do i get update-grub and update-initramfs to recognize the new names? it still expects /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv.  https://bpa.st/NBRQ
[22:04] <EriC^^> yin846: are you doing this is in a chroot?
[22:05] <yin846> no
[22:05] <EriC^^> what's in /etc/crypttab
[22:05] <yin846> fresh install of ubuntu 22.04 server. no luks encryption
[22:06] <EriC^^> oh
[22:07] <giu-> hi to all
[22:16] <EriC^^> yin846: maybe this? https://www.golinuxcloud.com/rename-logical-volume-example/#Step-4_Refresh_LVM_attribute-2
[22:20] <yin846> i found that article earlier. tried it and didnt help. still expects the volume group and logical volume names to be the default
[22:23] <yin846> i know during the installation you can change the names but i want to know why it seems to be hard coded after.
[22:26] <johnny_linux> my guess is "security"
[22:37] <yin846> some articles i found suggested editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg but that file will eventually get overwritten. i tried looking at the files in /etc/grub.d/ and /etc/default/grub but i cant find where it has the uuid or volume group and logical volume name.
[22:48] <yin846> nevermind. i found out why. last answer at bottom of page. https://askubuntu.com/questions/953547/how-to-rename-volume-group-of-an-encrypted-boot-drive-and-have-it-still-boot
[23:26] <goddard> so any reason why my speakers have a constant static sound coming out of them?
[23:30] <SandyVujakovi[m]> goddard: It could be electrical noise from the computer combined with Ubuntu never shutting the audio output off, even when there is nothing playing.
[23:30] <axis9> correct
[23:30] <axis9> but not full info
[23:31] <SandyVujakovi[m]> I get static like that in my headphones on my laptop if I disable sleep for the audio chip through tlp.
[23:31] <axis9> this is just power problems, not exploiting logic circuits
[23:31] <SandyVujakovi[m]> axis9: I never looked into it further, so that's about as much I know about the issue 😅
[23:32] <axis9> you probably do not need to go deeper
[23:33] <SandyVujakovi[m]> axis9: Could you elaborate?
[23:33] <johnny_linux> pulseaudio -k ??
[23:33] <sarnold> more like, "don't expect computer audio to have a low noise floor"
[23:33] <axis9> SandyVujakovi[m]: ask me 5 years later
[23:33] <sarnold> lol
[23:34] <goddard> SandyVujakovi[m]: ill have to play with it.  I just saw a recent upgrade to pipewire didn't know if that could be an issue.
[23:34] <goddard> SandyVujakovi[m]: its with hdmi 2.1 monitor with build in speakers
[23:34] <goddard> never had that issue with a digital audio signal
[23:35] <sarnold> oh you've got *digital* signal leaving the computer and going to a decent DAC and *that* has noise? that's bad :(
[23:35] <sarnold> that seems like it's worth a bug report but I'll be honest I haven't got a clue if we've got anyone around who works on that kind of thing :(
[23:35] <goddard> sarnold: just got the Asus PG42UQ
[23:36] <goddard> maybe a firmware issue and not a problem with Ubuntu i dont know
[23:41] <johnny_linux> for the time being, try  pulseaudio -k
[23:41] <johnny_linux> see if that works
[23:42] <sarnold> goddard: ooo, how's the micro texture coating on that? is it actually as good as ye old matte displays from previous decades?
[23:43] <sarnold> oled... hmm, have they solved the oled burn-in problem yet?
 "Sandy Vujaković: ill have to..." <- I've been using PipeWire for several months now — had to mask PulseAudio in systemD — so it hasn't been an issue for me at least.
 "Sandy Vujaković: ask me 5..." <- All right 😂
 "never had that issue with a..." <- Oh, it's with digital. Yikes 😬
 "maybe a firmware issue and not a..." <- Do you have a nearby TV you could try?