[18:55] <johnjaye> is it possible to make a cloud image with no default users at all? and then just have cloud-init create them?
[18:56] <johnjaye> i'm really confused here. i thought 'debian' was the default user in all the debian cloud images. but when i made a seed file which created user foo then user debian didn't exist
[18:56] <falcojr> default user should get created by cloud-init...default cloud images won't come with users defined
[18:57] <johnjaye> but the file /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg on the debian images says to create default user debian
[18:57] <johnjaye> did i override it somehow by specifying a users: section and creating foo?
[18:57] <johnjaye> i checked both /etc/passwd and /home and there was nothing. just foo
[18:58] <johnjaye> this is the config i used: https://dpaste.com/D9SAGC2C2
[18:58] <falcojr> johnjaye: if you're creating additional users via cloud-init, ensure you include "- default" in your users list
[18:59] <johnjaye> if i don't does it override the default user?
[19:00] <falcojr> yes
[19:00] <johnjaye> o_o
[19:00] <johnjaye> ok. 
[19:00] <johnjaye> would not have guessed that to be the case
[19:00] <johnjaye> i thought i was avoiding that by omitting -default from the list
[19:06] <minimal> johnjaye: this is mentioned in the docs but possibly it needs to be in large red flashing letters as it is a common mistake people make ;-)
[19:07] <minimal> from the docs: "Omission of 'default' as the first item in the 'users' list skips creation[sic] the default user."
[19:10] <falcojr> Ooh, typo with it. Even better! 
[19:11] <minimal> falcojr: 50/50 choice of "creation of" or "creating" ;-)
[19:16] <minimal> falcojr: can we ask the browser makers to bring back the <blink> tag? lol