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lotuspsychjegood morning01:42
cry0xengood afternoon lotus07:51
cry0xenmurmel thanks for the mpv flatpak. it works perfectly 07:52
cry0xenwithout any kind glitch and issue. seeks perfectly. i think the interface couldve been cleaner but at this point i dont care07:53
matt3hello !!!09:01
matt3an email = a way to communicate ...09:02
matt3let we talk about email ...09:02
daftykinsno it's a way to write down all your thoughts and questions and have another party disregard them all entirely!09:03
matt3fine !!!09:04
matt3:D09:04
matt3a joke09:06
daftykinsonly partially, it's 100% my firsthand experience of working with others09:07
daftykinswrite 3 questions, you'll get one answered if you're lucky 09:08
matt3ok, but i like to write to my bros in germany from italy in a few seconds ...09:09
daftykinssounds like instant messaging over email09:10
daftykinsand why would there be an imaginary time limit?09:10
matt3yes : im = few words ... email =   long text ...09:10
matt3also : im => tablet + smartphone ... email => pc09:12
daftykinsnoooo that's not true at all09:12
matt3tell me09:13
daftykinstell you what09:13
matt3the true about email ;D09:13
daftykinsi think given the channel isn't meant for general ramblings i'm going to abstain09:15
matt3ok, np09:15
matt3thank you to speack with me ...09:15
matt3cu later ...09:15
matt3;D09:15
daftykinso009:17
cry0xenWhat music player you prefer and why? just curious. also to understand interaction for documentation purpose10:01
lotuspsychjevlc and clementine here10:24
cry0xenisnt clementine outdated?10:35
daftykinsvery unmaintained and it appears to have lost API access to grab lyrics and such on the song info page10:41
daftykinsbut unless you use online services with it i fail to see how that would have any impact, strawberry player is a fork afaik10:42
JanCI use Quod Libet to play music10:51
cry0xenfirst time hearing the name... seems really good and feature rich gtk+ app10:54
* ogra uses the vlc and mpv snaps for all media 10:55
cry0xenbest choices10:57
JanCmpv doesn't have any music collection management functions though, and IIRC VLC has some but it's fairly basic?10:57
JanCI use mpv for playing videos & occasionally audio files10:57
cry0xenjanC ogra "uses" not listens... theres a difference10:58
ogralol10:58
* cry0xen hides behind the pole10:58
daftykinsconsume that media, om-nom10:58
cry0xenwhat about you daftykins10:59
ograi tend to listen to streams ... i.e. radioparadise ... rarely to my local collectio (whic is imported ot vlc via playlists)10:59
ravagei think i stopped building any local music database 10 years ago11:00
cry0xenstream has its ups as well as some downs. i wanna save bandwidth, as well as charge11:04
daftykinsyeah i've always been a bit of a quality snob, so i like my FLAC library... however i don't really put music on these days, far more rare than a decade ago11:05
cry0xeni am like ogra in that sense... i listen to radio most of the time when i am on public transport11:05
JanCsome of the great stuff about Quod Libet is that it has several different "browsers" (ways to look at your music), and you can open more than one of them at the same time too11:06
cry0xena part my flac soul died when what.cd died11:06
JanCand https://quodlibet.readthedocs.io/en/latest/guide/searching.html of course  :)11:06
daftykinsthis is the wrong IRC network to discuss piracy, cry0xen 11:07
JanCand the tag editor11:07
cry0xeni am not even going there mate. just my experience11:07
cry0xennetflix spoify hbo and prime has me covered. i suffer when theres itch to see something old11:09
cry0xenanyone has experience with sayonara11:09
daftykinsyes it is the Japanese word for goodbye :P11:10
cry0xenlol11:10
cry0xenhttps://sayonara-player.com/11:11
cry0xenits also an qt based player like strawberry11:11
daftykinssoftware choices are personal, so it's always a pretty boring topic because you should just experiment and pick what you get on with11:11
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cry0xendoes snap share libraries unlike flatpak?14:26
ravagecry0xen, https://snapcraft.io/docs/content-interface14:30
ravageone example is https://snapcraft.io/install/gnome-42-2204/ubuntu14:30
ravageor icon packs for applications14:31
ograthe mesa content snaps are also a good eample ... https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/10/canonicals-steam-snap-will-let-you-switch-between-different-mesa-stacks14:32
ogra(with a particular real-world use-case in that article 🙂 )14:33
cry0xensorry for the late reply. I meant runtime environment libraries for apps. only debs does that i think15:47
cry0xenSo you guys already know i am bit new to the game and looking for mostly lightweight alternatives. most of you thought its unnecessary and I think to some extent yes. Also i am trying to understand the community as well as operating system itself. Everything felt top notch. people can build their whole operating system from scratch. this was revolutionary. although i get stumble upon every now and then, there were alternatives and without few i 15:48
cry0xencan live by my own.15:48
cry0xenhowever for some weird reason my system felt heavy15:49
cry0xenand just few moments ago i discovered why.... https://ludocode.com/blog/flatpak-is-not-the-future15:50
cry0xenhttps://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=28786915:50
cry0xenapps dont share libraries thats why my memory was spiking15:51
daftykinswere you the one running a potato?15:52
cry0xeni was running 4-5 type of app libraries in a single system. (yeah i am a messy desktop user)15:52
cry0xenyes15:52
cry0xenbut dont underestimate a potato... rasberry pi is a potato15:53
cry0xeni was calling windows bloat but situation here was beyond my understanding15:54
daftykinsyou're not running a Pi though, right?15:54
cry0xenno. but thats beside the point. being opinionated is good however being blind to reason/fact is completely different issue is altogether15:56
daftykinsthe spec of what you're running is absolutely relevant15:56
cry0xenu live in US?15:57
daftykinsno15:57
cry0xensounds like that. please do go through that discussion or the article. It talks about a severe problem. and those guys arent using a potato16:00
daftykinsnah i'm not interested in the form of software you chose to run, it sounded like you only recently got told to install one16:01
cry0xenwho told me to install what?16:01
daftykinsso you're withholding the specs, ok cool16:04
cry0xeni use firefox(s), quassel(f), mpv(f), quassel , lireoffice(f), onlyoffice(s), gimp(d)16:04
cry0xenand few others16:04
cry0xenits a bad practice that apps dont share runtime libraries. cpu-z was only few 60kb on windows and same kinda app is 29 mb16:06
cry0xenits not just flatpak i think snap has same issue16:06
daftykinsCPU-Z 1.93 is 3,993 KB for the x64 .exe16:06
daftykinssomehow where i am in the world has an impact on my questions eh? o016:07
cry0xenyeah but thats stereotypical of me.... you are judging me instead of the topic i put in front of you. usually often points out to the people privileged or immature personality. you also shut  the topic down the other time  because it didnt interest you on the process you completely overlooked that jan C took the time to find a link and post here about quod libet something i think he feels interested otherwise he wont do so16:14
daftykinshow can it be about you when i don't know you? i'm judging the physical hardware you're using together with the software choices you have made16:22
daftykinsyou're currently racing toward an ignore because this is totally nonsensical16:22
cry0xen"The penalties of huge alternate runtimes aren’t just in storage and bandwidth.16:29
cry0xenEach app with a new runtime adds another hundred megs or more of RAM usage. This adds up fast. Most computers don’t have enough RAM to run all their apps with alternate runtimes. The Raspberry Pi 400 has only 4 GB of RAM. Low-end Chromebooks have only 2 GB. Budget laptops tend to have 8 GB, mostly thanks to the bloat of Windows 10, but these app packaging solutions are catching up to it."16:29
cry0xeni am out of words. nice chatting with you16:29
daftykinsno specs, no assistance, no conversation16:32
daftykinswell done at wasting our time16:32
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