[00:01] <oerheks> install wireshark to see that traffic?
[00:02] <leftyfb> LionFish401: https://afteracademy.com/blog/what-is-dhcp-and-how-does-it-work
[00:05] <LionFish401> How can I use SWAP space to supplament a lack of physical RAM chips?
[00:09] <oerheks> LionFish401, one can control swapiness, but it will make your system horribly slower. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_how_do_I_change_it.3F
[00:09] <oerheks> specially with a browser
[00:17]  * ForeverNoob[m] uploaded an image: (29KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/FqddwLWIXBWXYKgkiuwZrEXY/Screenshot_Ubuntu_Server_22.04.1_2022-10-30_21%3A36%3A32.png >
[00:17] <ForeverNoob[m]> This is an excellent feature! Thanks Ubuntu devs!
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[00:19] <LionFish401> What is that?
[00:19] <LionFish401> A custom service restarter?
[00:19] <LionFish401> Either way it looks good
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[00:23] <ForeverNoob[m]> @LionFish401
[00:23] <ForeverNoob[m]> Oops. Anyway yeah after I updated it presented me with this prompt.
[00:23] <ForeverNoob[m]> It's a fresh 22.04.1 Server install in a VM.
[00:29] <LionFish401> nice
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[01:30]  * ForeverNoob[m] uploaded an image: (13KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/OFDSRWFVKwLTsRmgnNztypYH/Screenshot_Ubuntu_Server_22.04.1_2022-10-31_02%3A26%3A55.png >
[01:30] <ForeverNoob[m]> This on the other hand tho...
[01:31] <ForeverNoob[m]> Like... I understand that it's a "minimized" version, but which server distro does not ship with ping :/
[01:48] <ForeverNoob[m]> And no `nc` either :O
[01:49] <ForeverNoob[m]> `dpkg -l | wc -l` results in 427 packages, so props to the Ubuntu team for enabling such a minimal install, but how would I even figure out why I don't have network access lol :D
[01:50]  * ForeverNoob[m] uploaded an image: (29KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/TOZDlTtavSBFNQBOxFmvpePc/Screenshot_Ubuntu_Server_22.04.1_2022-10-31_02%3A50%3A18__no_network.png >
[01:50] <ForeverNoob[m]> Like... how do I even deal with this? :D
[01:57] <jhutchins> ForeverNoob[m]: Did you want help or are you just venting?
[01:58] <ForeverNoob[m]> @jhutchins: A bit of both I guess. I'm now trying the `unminimize` command and see how that goes.
[01:59] <jhutchins> ForeverNoob[m]: Just the nic to highlight it for the user.  @ is for twits.
[01:59] <jhutchins> er, tweets that is.
[01:59] <ForeverNoob[m]> Oh huh, I didn't know my Matrix client was passing the "@" along. That's interesting.
[02:00] <leftyfb> ForeverNoob[m]: also, please don't post pictures here. Use imgur.com or something. The vast majority of this channel is on IRC. Not Matrix
[02:00] <jhutchins> ForeverNoob[m]: Not sure what "minimized server" you installed, but I would think most would include networking.  I take it you have wifi.  Open ssid?
[02:00] <ForeverNoob[m]> jhutchins:libera.chat: Test. How does this nick mention look like?
[02:00] <jhutchins> Does the wifi do DHCP?
[02:01] <jhutchins> ForeverNoob[m]: Higlighted properly, thanks.
[02:01] <leftyfb> ForeverNoob[m]: what did you install ubuntu on exactly? What hardware? VM? Docker? VPS?
[02:01] <jhutchins> (You can also drop the network, just "jhutchins" will do.  Most clients will autocomplete a current nic.
[02:02] <ForeverNoob[m]> leftyfb:libera.chat: Are they not hosted on an external URL like imgur pics are? The images should be hosted on matrix.org but I don't really know how it looks like from the IRC side.
[02:02] <leftyfb> ForeverNoob[m]: it looks like garbage
[02:02] <leftyfb> Matrix is the worst thing to ever happen to IRC
[02:03] <ForeverNoob[m]> jhutchins: Ah ok, that means my client is basically passing pretty much everything to IRC.
[02:04] <ForeverNoob[m]> leftyfb: Depends on the client perhaps :p
[02:04] <leftyfb> ForeverNoob[m]: right, in IRC client, Matrix looks like garbage. I'm sure it looks fine in Matrix clients
[02:05] <ForeverNoob[m]> Ok, I'll try to keep it as IRC compatible as possible then :)
[02:06] <ForeverNoob[m]> (I partially blame the Matrix ecosystem for not having a decent terminal client)
[02:07] <cartdrige> There must be an official Ubuntu channel on Matrix out of this one, maybe a non official on discord too, though discord is not open source.
[02:08] <JanC> even as graphical IRC goes, the Matrix people don't really seem to "grok" IRC  :)
[02:08] <JanC> but it's not really relevant here
[02:11] <ForeverNoob[m]> I'm just glad I can have a free IRC bouncer with added decentralized features on top ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[02:11] <ForeverNoob[m]> But indeed, pretty off-topic for here I think.
[02:11] <jhutchins> ForeverNoob[m]: irssi is pretty much the definitive text client for irc.  Very adaptable and customizable, easy to run in a screen or tmux session.
[02:11] <JanC> ForeverNoob[m]: if you think think the server disto doesn't include some necessary tools, it's probably better to discuss it in #ubuntu-server or so
[02:12] <jhutchins> On the other hand, getting basic networking connected ought to be topical enough.
[02:12] <leftyfb> ForeverNoob[m]: what did you install ubuntu on exactly? What hardware? VM? Docker? VPS?
[02:12] <jhutchins> Might not be anybody qualified though.
[02:13] <cartdrige> If you're sick of irssi, try bitchx :
[02:13] <ForeverNoob[m]> leftyfb: It's a VM, and the image is `ubuntu-22.04.1-live-server-amd64.iso`
[02:13] <jhutchins> cartdrige: Does it do non-GUI?
[02:13] <leftyfb> ForeverNoob[m]: a VM on what hypervisor?
[02:13] <leftyfb> ForeverNoob[m]: and what OS is the host running?
[02:13] <ForeverNoob[m]> KVM / Qemu via virt-manager. Host = Ubuntu 18.04
[02:14] <leftyfb> ForeverNoob[m]: the lack of network is due to your KVM network settings
[02:14] <cartdrige> jhutchins, it's a joke, it's an old linux textmode client. i think it's not even packaged anymore on Ubuntu.
[02:14] <ForeverNoob[m]> That's strange, during installation it had networking just fine.
[02:15] <leftyfb> ForeverNoob[m]: how did you determine that?
[02:15] <jhutchins> ForeverNoob[m]: Good luck.
[02:16] <leftyfb> ForeverNoob[m]: I would recommend installing without the "minimal" config
[02:16] <ForeverNoob[m]> leftyfb: At one point it said that subiquity installer was out of date, and whether I wanted to download an update, which I did.
[02:19] <ForeverNoob[m]> These are the current networking settings: https://0x0.st/oY9Y.png
[02:21] <JanC> downloading that update might actually lead to the install failing   :P
[02:21] <ForeverNoob[m]> Oh wut
[02:21] <JanC> it was obviously never testen on systems with limited disk space...
[02:22] <JanC> tested
[02:22] <JanC> none of subiquity was
[02:22] <ForeverNoob[m]> I assigned it a 20 G virtual drive though
[02:23] <ForeverNoob[m]> `du -hs /` only came up with 4.3 G
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[02:26] <JanC> then it should be fine I guess (even if 4.3G is insane for a basic server install)
[02:28] <ForeverNoob[m]> Compared to my usual Ubuntu installations I was actually quite impressed by that figure :p
[02:28] <ForeverNoob[m]> (though most of those installations were admittedly aimed for the desktop)
[02:30] <JanC> not that long ago, an Ubuntu desktop install was <3 GB
[02:32] <felipe> /nivk spirox
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[02:34] <spirox> /list
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[02:41] <ForeverNoob[m]> JanC: How long ago was that though? I somewhat remember vanilla 16.04 being pretty storage beefy.
[02:42] <JanC> it depends on the desktop you choose etc.
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> xubuntu core i hear good things about for a minimal desk
[02:46] <arraybolt3> I actually am one of the main testing guys for it, and it looks extremely good for a minimal system.
[02:47] <arraybolt3> The one tricky part is that you have to install a web browser yourself, since it comes with just shy of *nothing*. Which is the whole point.
[02:47] <JanC> arraybolt3: so how much disk space does it need ?
[02:48] <arraybolt3> ...I actually haven't checked...
[02:48] <arraybolt3> I know it fits quite comfortably on my 16 GB converted Chromebook.
[02:48] <arraybolt3> Here lemme check real quick, I have an ISO right here.
[02:49] <arraybolt3> The ISO is 1.3 GB, which makes it dwarfed even by Lubuntu.
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> i know ubuntu needs 8GB+ free disk to install, does xubuntu core give a warning arraybolt3 ?
[02:49] <arraybolt3> Let's find out.
[02:49] <JanC> (to be fair one of my main problem with the subiquity server installer is that it will happily start installing an Ubuntu server on a 4 GiB disk, and than crash out without a proper error message because it runs out of disk space...)
[02:50] <Bashing-om> Guys: https://unit193.net/xubuntu/core/ :D
[02:50] <arraybolt3> ^ +1
[02:51] <arraybolt3> That's where I download it from. Unit193 is one of the main Xubuntu developers (and also happens to be Libera.Chat staff too).
[02:51] <JanC> so I was rather looking for a proper server installer...
[02:52] <arraybolt3> JanC: Oh. Hmm... If the server installer isn't working, I'm not sure if there's a whole lot you can do about that.
[02:52] <JanC> arraybolt3: it's completely ridiculous
[02:53] <ForeverNoob[m]> I asked in the #ubuntu-server channel, and if I don't find any luck there I'll just install it again (but this time the "unminimized" version)
[03:01] <arraybolt3> OK so Xubuntu Core leaves about 956 MB of space if you install it on an 8 GiB disk.
[03:01] <arraybolt3> s/MB/MiB/ (because that matters in 2022 Linux Land, grumble)
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> thats bigger then i expected arraybolt3
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> tnx for testing it
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> ive tested that on earlier lubuntu releases on a 8GB ssd, but i couldnt get past the 8GB warning, even if lubuntu installed less
[03:29] <arraybolt3> Bigger than I thought too. I guess Ubuntu isn't the best for super minimal machines.
[03:29] <arraybolt3> I have an Arch installation that fits in under 4 GB... but this is #ubuntu-discuss territory I think.
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[03:53] <arraybolt3> !ping
[03:53] <arraybolt3> Great my server fell over.
[03:53] <ubottu> pong!
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[04:35] <ForeverNoob[m]> Found the culprit: I set my VPN client to deny all LAN connections. Apparently this also includes VM networking :(
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[04:50] <Kartagis> !logs
[04:50] <ubottu> Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/
[04:51] <ApOgEE> exit
[04:55] <Kartagis> hi. my laptop doesn't hibernate. the output of ( sudo lsblk --fs; cat /etc/default/grub; cat  /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume; sudo update-initramfs -u) | nc termbin.com 999 is at https://termbin.com/x0xo. help please?
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[04:56] <Dell22-04> Oh no, the Dell is now dong what my lapwas doing on 18.04 - Ubuntu has an internal error.
[04:57] <Dell22-04> and again. havent done anything else.
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[07:34] <cluelessperson_> How can I disable a specific multimedia key in ubuntu?
[07:34] <cluelessperson_> I want to use the multimedia "favorites" key for something else.
[07:36] <murmel> cluelessperson_: a good writeup is https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1218221&s=8c8a0313728ff6e99bdb9a721156406c&p=7675138#post7675138
[08:01] <rameur> test
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[10:34] <beuys> Hello! Day 3 of tinkering with Linux distros is about to begin :)
[10:34] <beuys> I wonder why "find / -type f | wc -l" finds about a million files on the distros I tried. Are there really so many regular files in a normal Linux setup?
[10:36] <ogra> a million souns a bit exaggerated ... but yeah, there are quite a lot of files
[10:38] <kkkssf> gues lot of these files are sysfs stuff
[10:38] <kkkssf> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sysfs
[10:38] <ogra> beuys, though there is one thing you should lern about linux/unix systems ... "everything is a file" ... that means you will also find representations of your hardware on the filesystm, and there is probably a ton of files that just provide switches and toggles for these devices
[10:39] <ogra> so not every file you see is actually a physical file
[10:39] <ogra> ... but a file representation of a setting or a device
[10:40] <ogra> like kkkssf said, there are the /proc and the /sys filesystems that provide the above, in a "find" call you should exclude these dirs
[10:41] <ogra> (also /dev should be excluded)
[10:43] <kkkssf> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procfs
[10:44] <kkkssf> on my system procfs + sysfs are about 300k virtual files
[11:04] <ogra> yep ... and probably another few 100 in /dev
[11:05] <beuys> kkkssf: "df -i" might show the number of real files. Under "IUsed".
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[11:34] <geirha> if you add -xdev after / it will avoid descending into other filesystems, like /proc and /sys
[11:45] <beuys> geirha: That brings it down to 300k files.
[11:45] <beuys> geirha: Same ballpark "df -i" outputs under IUsed.
[11:46] <beuys> What might be the better number? "df -i" IUsed or "find / -type f -xdev | wc"?
[11:46] <beuys> Without the "-type f" the numbers are very close together.
[11:48] <ogra> without the -type f you are cunting symlinks to actual files i.e. non-physical files that just point to another file
[11:48] <beuys> ogra: Which might be intended.
[11:48] <geirha> and the find will count hardlinks to the same file multiple times
[11:48] <ogra> right
[12:18] <pasiz[m]> hardlinks are from evil in fs housekeeping
[12:20] <FKAShinobi> Are there any known issues with file roller not handling bzip2 files correctly?
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> !info bzip2 | FKAShinobi
[12:23] <ubottu> FKAShinobi: bzip2 (1.0.8-5build1, kinetic): high-quality block-sorting file compressor - utilities. In component main, is optional. Built by bzip2. Size 35 kB / 114 kB
[12:25] <FKAShinobi> lotuspsychje: Thanks. I ran across an issue where file roller errors on unpacking a bzip2 file and the command line works fine. I wasn't sure if this was already known.
[12:26] <bitbinge> Should I expect that a volume knob on a gaming keyboard will work under Linux?
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> FKAShinobi: dont see a bug on it right away; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/file-roller?field.searchtext=bzip2&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> field.has_no_package=
[12:30] <FKAShinobi> lotuspsychje: The following file does not unpack via file roller on Ubuntu 22.04. https://mirrors.nycbug.org/pub/opnsense/releases/mirror/OPNsense-22.7-OpenSSL-dvd-amd64.iso.bz2
[12:31] <FKAShinobi> lotuspsychje: can you confirm on your end?
[12:31] <FKAShinobi> Command line seems to work without issue.
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> FKAShinobi: thats what the opnsense tut says; You will need to use a software like 7zip to extract the ISO image from the BZ2 package.
[12:34] <FKAShinobi> lotuspsychje: Wouldn't that include file roller?
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[12:35] <lotuspsychje> FKAShinobi: fileroller doesnt handle all extensions, some cases you will need an extra package/sotware
[12:37] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:37] <FKAShinobi> lotuspsychje: fair enough, but that is not obvious. If bzip2 is not supported then it should not present the extract option for those files.
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> FKAShinobi: actualy, i just unpacked your bz2 file to an .iso with fileroller
[12:38] <FKAShinobi> lotuspsychje: hmmmm with 20.04?
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> no, 22.04
[12:38] <FKAShinobi> It may have been fixed already.
[12:39] <FKAShinobi> I hope it gets backported to 20.04
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> FKAShinobi: im on version; 3.42.0-1
[12:40] <FKAShinobi> lotuspsychje: I'm on 3.36.3-stable
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> !backports | FKAShinobi maybe try
[12:41] <ubottu> FKAShinobi maybe try: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[12:41] <FKAShinobi> Thanks!
[14:33] <jhutchins> Has anybody mentioned that real posix applications don't care about filenames?
[14:33] <jhutchins> ie extensions?
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[14:49] <sarnold> bash command line completions do care, though, which is insanely frustrating at times :(
[14:51] <jhutchins> That can probably be tweaked.
[14:51] <Kartagis> hi. my laptop doesn't hibernate. the output of ( sudo lsblk --fs; cat /etc/default/grub; cat  /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume; sudo update-initramfs -u) | nc termbin.com 999 is at https://termbin.com/x0xo. help please?
[14:51] <jhutchins> sarnold: You mean when it's completing a command for a specific app?
[14:52] <sarnold> jhutchins: yeah
[15:20] <cosmicrajiv> hello. just i have updated my ubuntu 22.04.1 and after the update ubuntu is not4 using nvidia driver. also after the update, gnome automatically switches from xorg to wayland. I did change it again to xorg but nvidia is still not usable. this is the output of nvidia-smi and the newest kernel.
[15:22] <cosmicrajiv> hello. just i have updated my ubuntu 22.04.1 and after the update ubuntu is not4 using nvidia driver. also after the update, gnome automatically switches from xorg to wayland. I did change it again to xorg but nvidia is still not usable. this is the output of nvidia-smi and the newest kernel https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5DxPpNjnsk/plain/
[15:23] <ravage> cosmicrajiv, try "sudo ubuntu-drivers list"
[15:24] <cosmicrajiv> ravage, ok
[15:25] <ravage> what nvidia card is this? if it is a more or less recent one you can do "sudo ubuntu-drivers install nvidia-driver-520" if it is in the list
[15:25] <cosmicrajiv> ravage: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HRtZQ7YtRX/plain/
[15:25] <cosmicrajiv> ravage: rtx 3050
[15:25] <ravage> i would call that recent :P
[15:25] <ravage> try the install command
[15:26] <cosmicrajiv> install with?
[15:26] <ravage> "sudo ubuntu-drivers install nvidia-driver-520"
[15:26] <cosmicrajiv> ok
[15:26] <cosmicrajiv> sudo ubuntu-drivers install nvidia-driver-520
[15:27] <cosmicrajiv> sorry
[15:28]  * peacefulman struggles to fin dthe PHP logs in 20.04.
[15:28] <cosmicrajiv> ravage: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/H7BbDZQRgh/plain/
[15:29] <ravage> mhm
[15:30] <ravage> 1 sec
[15:30] <cosmicrajiv> mhm?
[15:30] <cosmicrajiv> ok
[15:31] <ravage> can you paste the output of "dpkg -l|grep 'ii '|grep nvidia" ?
[15:31] <cosmicrajiv> ok
[15:32] <cosmicrajiv> ravage: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/t57sZYhN8t/plain/
[15:32] <jhutchins> peacefulman: PHP does not necessarily log unless you tell it to.
[15:33] <jhutchins> peacefulman: Check the configuration section of your code to see where it thinks it's supposed to write them.
[15:33] <ravage> cosmicrajiv, now "sudo apt --reinstall install nvidia-dkms-515 nvidia-driver-515"
[15:34] <ravage> see if that builds the module without errors
[15:34] <cosmicrajiv> ok
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[15:40] <Kartagis> can you help with my hibernation problem?
[15:41] <cosmicrajiv> ravage: should i restart?
[15:44] <cosmicrajiv> ravage: its working now
[15:44] <ravage> 👍
[15:44] <cosmicrajiv> ravage thanks
[15:47] <cosmicrajiv> ravage: by the way why its happened?
[15:47] <ravage> i have no idea really. i never did an upgrade to 22.04 with my nvidia card
[15:48] <ravage> it should have just worked
[15:48] <cosmicrajiv> you mean your still using 20.04.xx?
[15:48] <ravage> no
[15:48] <ravage> i did a fresh install of 22.04
[15:49] <cosmicrajiv> so you are still on 22.04 instead of 22.04.1?
[15:50] <ravage> oh it stopped working from 22.04 to .1 for you?
[15:50] <ravage> i though the upgrade was from 20.04
[15:50] <cosmicrajiv> actually i did a fresh install of 22.04.1 and everything works well. its just after today after upgrading
[15:51] <ravage> that is even more strange. i did not have any problems with updates here really
[15:51] <ravage> lets just hope it will not happen again i guess
[15:52] <cosmicrajiv> ravage: yeah. i guess that too.
[15:55] <ogra> i did upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04 here with a GTX970 ... worked flawless
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[16:33] <dust> firefox
[16:33] <dust> XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /snap/firefox/2045/usr/lib/firefox/libmozgtk.so:
[16:33] <dust> Couldn't load XPCOM.
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[16:41] <ogra> dust, what release/kernel are you on ?
[16:41] <dust> ogra, 22.10
[16:43] <ogra> did you by chance try a 6.x kernel ? (that has known broken squashfs drivers currently)
[16:43] <ogra> that squashfs bug could result in files not being found (or eding up corrupt in ram after loading them)
[16:50] <Kartagis> how do we overcome dependency issues with dpkg?
[16:50] <dust> ogra, liquorix has a 6.x kernel... but it worked before i just did an ff update...
[16:51] <ogra> dust, it worked by luck ... the bug shows up intermitting ...
[16:51] <ogra> dust, dont use 6.x with snaps for now ... i think 6.2 will have the fix though
[16:52] <dust> ogra, thx for the info
[16:53] <ogra> dust, for reference:  https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221020223616.7571-1-phillip@squashfs.org.uk/
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[17:20] <blindspot> hi there
[17:20] <ShahNaim> hi
[17:22] <blindspot> ok, just wallking around, but how i can change fonts size here
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[17:24] <Kartagis> how do we overcome dependency issues with dpkg?
[17:27] <leftyfb> Kartagis: please provide details like which release of Ubuntu you are running the packages and their vesions you are having an issue with and pastebin the error messages you have encountered along with the commands you are running.
[17:27] <leftyfb> blindspot: are you asking how to change the font size in the IRC client you are using that you haven't told us?
[17:28] <blindspot> Oh, yes. Sorry. HexChat i have installed.
[17:29] <leftyfb> blindspot: what have you tried so far?
[17:31] <blindspot> i've checked the settings but i can't see any option for size changing
[17:35] <Kartagis> leftyfb: 22.04.1, stremio_4.4.137-1_amd64.deb, http://paste.debian.net/1259083/
[17:38] <ogra> Kartagis, dont use dpkg, use apt ...
[17:38] <ogra> ((((that will instll missing dependencies)
[17:38] <Kartagis> ogra: even with .deb files?
[17:38] <ogra> yes
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[17:40] <leftyfb> Kartagis: also, submit a bug with stremio to setup a proper repository or better yet, get them to add their software into the debian and ubuntu repo's or even better yet, get them to create a snap and submit it to the snap store
[17:40] <ogra> 👍
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[17:41] <ogra> Kartagis, first hit on google for me ("streamio on ubuntu") https://www.how2shout.com/linux/install-stremio-streaming-app-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts-jammy/ ... also points to using apt
[17:42] <ogra> (oh man ... that tutorial screams "make me a snap")
[17:51] <Kartagis> I did use apt too but it somehow doesn't install
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[17:57] <blindspot> hi there
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[18:44] <segamain> I'm trying to initialize a .ovpn file with openvpn. I typed in this 'openvpn -- config <.ovpnfile>' and I get this 'Options error: Unrecognized option or missing or extra parameter(s) in [CMD-LINE]:1: config (2.4.7)
[18:44] <segamain> '
[18:45] <segamain> what am I doing wrong?
[18:46] <ravage> the space between -- and config
[18:48] <segamain> ravage I still get the Error: 'Options error: Unrecognized option or missing or extra parameter(s) in [CMD-LINE]:1: config (2.4.7)
[18:48] <segamain> Use --help for more information.'
[18:58] <segamain> should I go on a different channel, it doesn't seem like an ubuntu problem to me
[18:58] <segamain> ?
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[19:10] <segamain> ok now I get this 'Options error: Unrecognized option or missing or extra parameter(s) in starting_point_segamain.ovpn:12: data-ciphers-fallback (2.4.7)
[19:10] <segamain> Use --help for more information.'
[19:13] <stef_> hola
[19:20] <segamain> this is the config file I think it's calling out errors but I don't know which ones https://pastebin.com/f5Juyqex
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[19:58] <xipper> Do you guys know if an update is coming to Ubuntu 18.04 tomorrow for the latest OpenSSL vulnerability?
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[20:05] <oerheks> xipper, no confirmation yet, but i guess it will.
[20:05] <xipper> oerheks: thanks
[20:06] <oerheks> https://mta.openssl.org/pipermail/openssl-announce/2022-October/000238.html
[20:13] <bittin> got my other Ubuntu MATE shirt today
[20:14] <xipper> My servers are actually using OpenSSL 1.1 so I guess I an good?
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[20:23] <ravage> this is basically just a release announcement with the additional spoiler "we did a big whoopsie" but we wont tell you what yet. my guess is that there will be fixes for older versions too
[20:23] <ravage> we will see
[20:24] <varaindemian> how an I update to Gnome 43? I am on Ubuntu 22.04
[20:24] <ravage> you dont
[20:25] <tomreyn> !latest | varaindemian
[20:25] <ubottu> varaindemian: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.
[20:25] <varaindemian> I know
[20:25] <varaindemian> I still want gnome 43
[20:25] <varaindemian> that's all
[20:25] <varaindemian> :))
[20:25] <ravage> update to 22.10
[20:25] <oerheks> upgrade to 22.10 Kinetic for gnome 43
[20:26] <varaindemian> Other options?
[20:26] <varaindemian> Like a repo for this?
[20:27] <ravage> no
[20:28] <varaindemian> :(
[20:28] <varaindemian> rip
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[20:46] <ioria> varaindemian,  i'd try flatpak gnome-boxes
[20:46] <varaindemian> ioria: hmm
[20:47] <ioria> varaindemian, https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnome.Boxes
[20:47] <ogra> any reason to not just snap install gnome-bboxes ?
[20:47] <ioria> it's 42
[20:47] <ogra> (at least you get something canonical maintained with that)
[20:47] <ogra> ah
[20:48]  * ogra didnt get that this was about the 43 version of gnome-boxes
[20:48] <ogra> (i though it was about running gnome 43 in boxes 🙂 )
[20:48] <varaindemian> so you suggest to install a virual machine to get gnome?
[20:48] <ogra> i guess ioria ment to use a VM to not trash yur main install
[20:48] <ogra> *your
[20:49] <ioria> yep
[20:49] <ogra> why not just upgrade to 22.10 ?
[21:01] <dante> Guys how do you search with grep for TEXT space TEXT?
[21:01] <dante> so it's a text with 2 words with space between them
[21:01] <dante> specifically I am using pdfgrep but I suppose it's the same with grep
[21:05] <jhutchins> dante: Try quoting the string including the space, or using standard "escape" characters like text\ text
[21:06] <jhutchins> dante: If that fails, check the man page.
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[21:28] <dante> that didnt work jhutchins
[21:34] <arraybolt3> dante: Does pdfgrep have a man page? Try "man pdfgrep" and see if it has anything interesting.
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[21:56] <jhutchins> dante: You may actually have to dive in to "Regular Expressions".
[22:02] <jhutchins> I wonder what pdfgrep does if your pdf is 100% graphical?
[22:04] <jhutchins> The 'strings' command might also be useful, and could be piped through (e)grep.
[22:05] <Enissay> I have many videos in a folder, is there any easy way to check their total duration at once ?
[22:07] <jhutchins> Enissay: No.
[22:08] <jhutchins> Enissay: File size does not equal (is not directly proportionate to) runtime, runtime is often in the metadata, but not in a way that would be easy to parse and total.
[22:09] <Enissay> Grrrrr, thank you ;-)
[22:18] <ogra> you could probably script something through ffmpeg to get the lenght
[22:19] <ogra> Enissay, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/587646/how-to-get-the-total-duration-of-all-video-files-in-current-folder-and-sub-direc
[22:20] <ogra> (first hit on google 🙂 )
[22:22] <Enissay> ogra: Haha, I have already looked and user a different search which didnt yield what I wanted...
[22:22] <Enissay> Then I made my own loop to get it xD
[22:22] <Enissay> ogra: Thanks
[22:22] <ogra> 🙂
[22:23] <Enissay> Though, the question was if anything can show it directly... I recall, in windows, VLC tells me the total duration when I drag a folder to it
[22:23] <Enissay> I tried here and didnt show anything
[22:23] <Enissay> Anyhow
[22:29] <mak> helo!
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[22:46] <sybariten> good evening!  How do i typically check whether or not there is a newer version of a piece of software out there, without necessary doing the update? To get an idea of how far behind i am
[22:47] <sybariten> We can take git as an example. git --version at my place says 2.25.1
[22:52] <ravage> sybariten, you usually do not get any version updates within an Ubuntu release
[22:52] <ravage> only minor fixes and security updates
[22:52] <ravage> so your git version will stay more or less the same
[22:53] <Jeremy31> sybariten: in terminal>  apt policy {package-name}
[22:53] <Jeremy31> But that is only accurate after apt update otherwise it doesn't know what the current version is
[22:55] <igiag> hi
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[23:43] <sybariten> ravage: oh! I have to admit i didnt know that, hehe.
[23:44] <sybariten> so i'll just.... leave it at that then.
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