=== laptop is now known as Guest2174 === thomasb_ is now known as thomasb === ledeni_ is now known as ledeni === realivanjx2 is now known as realivanjx === vampidj is now known as amdj === gschanuel3 is now known as gschanuel === zareem3 is now known as zareem === realivanjx9 is now known as realivanjx [03:12] https://snapstats.org/snaps?q=&offset=0&limit=20&field=date_published&order=-1 [03:17] im getting this error netplan unknown key address [03:17] when i try to apply new network config [03:26] !netplan | hammies [03:26] hammies: Netplan is a network configuration abstraction renderer which uses YAML descriptions of a network to work with either a NetworkManager or Systemd-networkd "renderer". More information at https://netplan.io/ === root is now known as Guest2527 === zareem9 is now known as zareem === gschanuel4 is now known as gschanuel === Were-thekau is now known as octav1a === realivanjx3 is now known as realivanjx === xamindar_ is now known as xamindar === matsaman_ is now known as matsaman === root is now known as Guest4468 === Boohumbug is now known as Bahhumbug === hammies is now known as hams [06:32] ok [06:40] can I get help with my hibernation problem? https://termbin.com/x0xo [06:42] !details | Kartagis [06:42] Kartagis: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. [06:42] Kartagis: ubuntu release and the brand of your computer would help, also describe what happens exactly [06:47] lotuspsychje_: the laptop doesn't hibernate when I close the lid. I'm on 22.4.01, my laptop is lenovo thinkpad, my /etc/systemd/logind.conf is at https://termbin.com/bcdo and I have other information at https://termbin.com/x0xo [06:48] Kartagis: whats your current kernel version please [06:48] uname -a === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [06:49] lotuspsychje: 5.15.52-generic [06:49] lotuspsychje: 5.15.0.52-generic [06:51] Kartagis: could you check your ubuntu software centre to see if there are lenovo firmwares available? === realivanjx7 is now known as realivanjx [06:56] lotuspsychje: a few but none hibernation related [06:57] try to install them, then pastebin your dmesg please Kartagis [06:58] lotuspsychje: https://www.imgpaste.net/image/KEsbxB [06:59] no thats not it Kartagis usualy in the last tab updates should they showup [06:59] you dont need to search for lenovo as keyword [06:59] and firefoxlotuspsychje: I have only secure boot dbx configuration update [07:00] Kartagis: that will show us in your dmesg [07:04] lotuspsychje: nothing in dmesg [07:04] can you share it please Kartagis [07:05] lotuspsychje: https://termbin.com/qfp7k [07:08] Kartagis: a similar bug to yours possibly; bug #1970957 [07:08] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 1970957 in linux (Ubuntu) "suspend problem" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1970957 [07:08] Kartagis: users mention kernel 5.18 and 6.0 might resolve it [07:09] you might wanna try to reproduce that with the !mainline kernels === Montresor is now known as Unit193 [07:11] lotuspsychje: similar but not quite - mine doesn't even hibernate [07:11] !mainline [07:11] The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds [07:11] Kartagis: im also reading TPM could cause trouble regarding hibernation, worth a test in your bios/uefi too [07:12] TPM? [07:15] Kartagis: comment #75 in that bug [07:20] Kartagis: i also see a few ACPI issues in your dmesg and amdgpu errors you might need to checkout [07:20] Kartagis: for ACPI you can try checking if your firmware is up to date to latest, for amdgpu also likes higher kernel versions [07:40] lotuspsychje: I couldn't find fTPM in BIOS. there was a TPM under Security Chip though and I disabled it. [07:40] yeah thats prob what the user meant, typo === scoobydoob is now known as scoobydoo [08:01] I was recently homeless on the streets and want to discuss/blog about it here, also I used Linux during this experience so its relevant. [08:04] !discuss | SandDustWind1 [08:04] SandDustWind1: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [08:20] yaes [08:20] hi, my kid needs games. [08:20] i am not ur kid >:( [08:20] sorry, it's the name. [08:20] any fun things to set up on an ubuntu server [08:21] scamkid: whatever you like to learn? :) [08:22] wait i have an idea i could make a game server [08:22] scamkid please have a discord bridge [08:23] murmel will you help? [08:23] BrassPin88: for what [08:24] and btw, this is an ubuntu support channel, if you want to talk offtopic, there is #ubuntu-offtopic [08:26] hi murmel ,, could you please join #ubuntu-offtopic and introduce me to some good people. [08:26] BrassPin88: just talk, some will answer ;). quite the exquisite people over there :) [08:27] murmel will there be devs? devs native to the latest ubuntu project? [08:27] BrassPin88: very unlikely. but that really depends on what you want [08:29] murmel Can you check if my avatar is clothed? [08:29] oO [08:30] what do you mean? [08:30] my avatar ... don't you all have avatars? [08:30] if you are talking about being cloaked in irc, then yes [08:30] then you have a cloak atleast [08:30] I know what an avatar is, but no idea what you mean by it in conjunction with irc [08:31] BrassPin88: if you mean cloak, then we are talking about your account [08:31] murmel that's good! we need avatars in irc. [08:31] discord has profiles [08:31] we need to keep up [08:31] BrassPin88: lol, irc is way older than that. and there is no need for that [08:33] murmel can we put a number to the age of irc? [08:33] !greet fheimes [08:33] ... [08:34] the interesting question is: Does IRC have legs? [08:34] irc can't be that old, I just found a method that should work and it didn't. [08:34] BrassPin88: wikipedia: "IRC was created by Jarkko Oikarinen in August 1988" [08:34] I'd argue yes, after all how else would you kick somebody from a channel? [08:34] Hi [08:34] kai I imagine a .... [08:35] !ot [08:35] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [08:35] With openssl releasing a patch for a critical vuln today, will one be released for ubuntu 2204 today too? and at what time? [08:35] murmel I suspect now that libera has ownership of the wikipedia project as viewed by goog results. [08:36] not here please BrassPin88 [08:36] please say i am wrong [08:36] lotus|NUC [08:36] leave this channel for ubuntu support issues only please [08:36] Ecko: very likely, but there shouldn't be a release time as they just push it out after testing [08:36] lotuspsychje give me the channel name where I should be at? [08:37] !chat | BrassPin88 [08:37] BrassPin88: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [08:37] !discuss [08:37] Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [08:37] how to check ubottu's botmaster? [08:37] thats also not a topic for here BrassPin88 [08:38] lotuspsychje will you please be my guide through ubuntu-discuss? [08:43] My system Software updater is stuck on reinstall grub on a btrfs partition: https://i.postimg.cc/tR6tYV26/image.png In the left popup i can click on "next" but it then asks to skip the grub install probably because it fails to install. [08:44] How can i reinstall/reconfigure grub the right way? [08:44] * BrassPin88 wonders how anyone can have system issues during halloween [08:45] is it just me or is the pic completely streched? [08:46] its cut out, so not my full screen [08:46] ronnie: so what happens if you try to install update grub yourself (update-grub) [08:47] It looks like that works: https://i.postimg.cc/kgwKSQ0j/Screenshot-from-2022-11-01-09-47-08.png [08:48] Can i safely skip the GUI version? [08:51] ronnie: well, it should be quite easy to fix it if it doesn't boot, as long as you have a usb stick with ubuntu live on it (or any linux version) [08:55] Let's hope it works, i'm not that good with fixing grubs with live-usb's. Gonna reboot === realivanjx6 is now known as realivanjx [08:58] realivanjx what is your purpose here? === gr33n7001 is now known as gr33n7007h === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon === jeffbezos is now known as nckx [09:26] hi [09:26] anyone know how to stop auto update of Chrome on ubuntu? [09:26] i'm on 20.04 [09:26] chrome is not officialy supported on ubuntu kerfluffy [09:27] you will have to seek support at their support links [09:27] kerfluffy: sudo apt-mark hold google-chrome-stable [09:27] * alkisg1 thinks that usage of ubuntu is still supported in this channel [09:27] but i see my chromium being auto-updated and the chromium page says it's the package manager [09:28] They're not asking about solving a chrome bug, they're asking about ubuntu usage [09:28] ^ [09:28] kerfluffy: wait, chrome or chromium? [09:28] Chromium is a snap, google-chrome is deb [09:28] alkisg1 both actually [09:28] I'm not using snaps I can't answer regarding chromium [09:30] google-chrome-stable set on hold. [09:30] great. thanks [09:30] now i just need to figure what to do with snap [09:30] just remember to remove it to update [09:30] at some point ;) [09:31] yeah :) [09:31] i'd prefer manual update [09:31] kerfluffy: the best way would be to download the snap and install it from disk, so it doesn't auto update [09:31] i'm counting murmel and lotuspsychje as my friends now. [09:31] kerfluffy: which means, snap download , snap install ./ [09:32] murmel oh. so snap download + snap install won't auto-update? [09:33] kerfluffy: yes, as it doesn't connect it the install to the snap store (which means it doesn't know where the snap came from and can't upgrade) [09:34] murmel but snap download would have to know the source [09:34] where to fetch the file from [09:34] but I really wonder why somebody doesn't want the browser to actually be latest :S [09:34] kerfluffy: sure, but the install doesnt [09:34] murmel chromium just got updated to 108 beta. and it's very broken [09:34] so broken that i can't even open it [09:34] sudo snap revert chromium [09:34] when you install the *.snap file, where should snap know from where the snap came from? [09:35] (will get you back to the former version on disk) [09:35] kerfluffy: yeah, revert. on the other hand, can you give us the errors? on my ubuntu installs it works fine [09:35] oh, revert [09:35] damn [09:36] murmel same error as this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1993581 [09:36] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1993581 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] posix_spawn: No such file or directory" [Critical, In Progress] [09:36] (but latest works fine here too ... ) [09:36] 'posix_spawn: No such file or directory' [09:36] oh edge [09:37] maybe you should point out that you use beta software ;) [09:37] weell, edge a week+ ago [09:37] i really don't know my way around snap.. [09:37] but yeah, dont use edge if you dont want to seek for bugs [09:38] kerfluffy: if you want to go back to the stable channel use "sudo snap refresh --channel latest/stable chromium" [09:38] "snap help" and "snap help " are very helpful usually 😉 [09:39] great [09:39] the problem is my google-chrome is at 107 but chromium at 106 [09:39] yes, it needs a bit of time to compile and test [09:39] so wait, you are using stable oO [09:40] but you have an issue with the snap [09:40] i'm using chromedriver and it's at 107 [09:40] so chromium on snap won't work on that [09:40] he bug points to edge (10😎 ... [09:40] 108 [09:40] ogra yeah [09:41] bt you see the exact same error message n 106 ?? [09:41] i'm trying to sync both google-chrome and chromium to use the same version [09:41] ogra no, 106 is fine [09:41] ah [09:41] but my google-chrome is already on 106 [09:41] *107 [09:41] well, yeah, chrome does not get built for arm or riscv i guess ... [09:41] would it be a good idea to revert google-chrome to 106 [09:42] nah [09:42] if bth work it should all be fine [09:42] does it matter that there is a mismatch of versions? (I mean we are talking here a difference of 30 days or so) [09:42] Ok [09:42] * ogra wonders what's up wih his vowel keys) [09:42] i'm using selenium and i believe chromedriver comes with google-chrome [09:42] and it's at 107 [09:42] Can someone tell me how to join Ubuntu Docs? [09:42] but chromium on snap is 106 [09:43] yes, bih come from different places and are built by different people [09:43] *both [09:43] there are ways to get earlier releases but I wouldn't recommend them [09:43] which is why i'm trying to disable auto-update in order to have them synced [09:43] (and for different architectures that are operating at different speeds) [09:45] Can someone tell me how to join Ubuntu Docs? 🙂️ [09:45] kerfluffy, you can not completely disable snap updates (for security reasons) but you can set a schedule or a delay: https://snapcraft.io/docs/keeping-snaps-up-to-date [09:46] right [09:46] kksilvery, find the aunchpad team and send a request ? [09:46] *launchpad [09:46] is google-chrome-stable 106 still on apt? === jess-o-lantern is now known as jess [09:46] I would probably hold chrome, and then when chromium updates, update chrome [09:46] kerfluffy: you would need to see in the repo [09:46] yeah [09:48] apt policy google-chrome-stable => only 107.0.5304.87-1 available [09:48] sudo apt install google-chrome-stable=106.0.5249.103-1 [09:48] E: Version '106.0.5249.103-1' for 'google-chrome-stable' was not found [09:48] alkisg1 yeah [09:49] You could file a bug request in them though, apt allows multiple versions [09:49] (inside the same apt repository) [09:49] i wonder why they took it down so soon [09:49] Their scripts probably don't allow multiple versions [09:49] (their apt repository management scripts) [09:50] right [09:53] kerfluffy: wget https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/pool/main/g/google-chrome-stable/google-chrome-stable_106.0.5249.119-1_amd64.deb [09:53] alkisg1 i was just searching for that [09:53] link [09:53] thanks === x_x is now known as xx [09:59] dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libpython3.10-stdlib_3.10.8-1+focal1_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/python3.10/_sysconfigdata__linux_x86_64-linux-gnu.py', which is also in package libpython3.10-minimal:amd64 3.10.2-1+focal1 [09:59] these are from the deadsnakes ppa [10:02] jjakob: in general PPAs are not supported here, you can either contact the author or ask us how to remove that PPA (using ppa-purge)... [10:02] https://github.com/deadsnakes/issues/issues/207 [10:02] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 207 in deadsnakes/issues "typing.py / sysconfigdata upgrade conflicts (3.6+)" [Closed] [10:03] do they really expect me to purge and reinstall those packages [10:04] all good now [10:04] thanks a lot [10:04] 👍️ [10:05] luckily I can purge them as I only use them for a venv so there's no dependencies that it'd uninstall [10:07] Are we waiting for an openssl update for 22.04 today? Should I do my server's monthly updates now, or wait until it's published? [10:09] alkisg1: do them now, in order to debug any issues before any new updates come out, so that you know which one broke stuff [10:09] but that's just my 2c [10:09] xx, eh the point is to avoid the double effort :D [10:10] double effort now, to prevent quadruple effort later [10:10] keep in mind that if the exploit is really bad, it will likely still rely on a chain of vulnerabilities [10:10] so you should fix those other vulnerabilities [10:10] I do monthly updates separately on primary/secondary servers; are you suggesting I'd do e.g. bi-weekly updates, to double the effort to possibly bisect a breakage easier? [10:11] is there any way to use android apps with an ubuntu / linux emulator? [10:11] not for testing, but for regular use [10:11] alkisg1: well, it's easier to find out what the culprit is if you do smaller upgrades, but it really depends on what you're capable of managing [10:12] gneeriiloeepdeer anbox [10:13] xx, the sneaky issues are usually reported by users; it's not nice to interrupt their work too frequently to get them to work on backup servers to test each and every update that arrives on ubuntu respotirories... hence, patch tuesdays and monthly updates... [10:13] But are we waiting for an openssl update? [10:13] gneeriiloeepdeer: you can run adroidx86 iso in a VM on ubuntu too, like virtualbox for example [10:14] alkisg1: yes, 22.04 has openssl3, which will receive the update [10:14] Thanks! [10:15] I want to run Ubuntu on a SBC, portable, anyone have experience with one of the AMD processors for this? Odroid is one AMD SBC, but there are others. [10:16] * alkisg1 thinks Pruners is asking about ARM, not AMD... [10:16] why am I not asking about AMD? I have an AMD processor on this computer which is Ubuntu... [10:17] Some SBC's do have AMD [10:17] Which odroid version has an AMD processor? [10:21] is anbox full command line? the gui opened and closed [10:23] I was wrong, Odroid don't have AMD, I was thinking of Udoo. UDOO Bolt [10:24] if my Architecture is x86_64, do I have to use androidx86 instead of anbox? [10:25] Pruners: AMD processors use the x86_64 (amd64) architecture, so you can use normal Ubuntu versions for them, it's the same as installing Ubuntu in a PC [10:25] alkisg1 please explain x86_64 for the children involved in this channel [10:26] Sorry it's adult content only [10:26] well, odroid *has* an x86 based board now ... [10:26] but intel, not amd [10:26] alkisg1 please tell me that's a joke [10:26] (the new H3 board) [10:27] BrassPin88: of course dear! You can google for x86_64 and read about it, it just means the pc architecture [10:27] BrassPin88, well, a joke question go a joke answer ... [10:27] *got [10:28] ogra hi, i'm from stack, i asked a serious question on mathematics and got a joke answer, do you have a modicum on how i respond to that? [10:29] BrassPin88, mathematics are not really the topic of this channel ... [10:30] yet you can sudo apt install a scientific calculator and start a youtube channel to teach me, can't you? [10:31] BrassPin88, do you have an actual ubuntu problem to solve ? this channel is for support with ubuntu problems ... [10:33] Pruners, ubuntu runs fine on the UDOO boards, i have seen UbuntuCore as well as UbuntuServer running on them before [10:35] kerfluffy, a build with what I believe is a fix is ongoing. [10:36] nteodosio great! === feelingsreal is now known as Guest5687 [10:38] hi all [10:38] hi you own [10:38] is there a way to reload a rsyslog daemon on a configuration change? afaik, the rsyslog has to be restarted in order to get the configuration changes read again. [10:41] how dare a WeeChat user enter here. [10:41] i have looked at the init.d script and it shows a stop && start , for reload [10:42] "/who &&" is not working [10:42] "/whois &" is also problematic. [10:43] hey buongiorno a tuttii [10:43] !it | Ilfreddo92 [10:43] Ilfreddo92: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [10:43] jsbach, yes that seems to be the only way [10:44] ravage, thanx for the answer. [10:45] a pity that there is no perl/python api to control the daemon. [10:45] but if you do automatic changes to the files you can add a restart command [10:47] well yeah, i have a setup where i want to change the log levels on the fly for instance, without having loss of any messages between rsyslog clients and server. [10:51] jsbach, it might listen to "kill -HUP" ... [10:53] ogra, that is deprecated. did the same as restart anyway :) [10:53] https://www.rsyslog.com/doc/v8-stable/compatibility/v4compatibility.html [10:53] ravage, anywhere documented that is deprecated? [10:53] o thanks [10:54] ravage, bah, lame 🙂 [10:55] * ogra has admittedly not used rsyslog since 2016, else i might have noticed that change ... === diskin_ is now known as diskin === realivanjx9 is now known as realivanjx [11:01] can you suggest a good walk through to install anbox? [11:01] I found this from 2019 https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-anbox-and-run-android-apps-in-linux still valid? [11:03] i never tried it but "sudo snap install anbox" may be easier [11:03] that was not updates since 2020 though [11:04] anbox is installed and an icon appeared in the gui. However, I load it and it closes [11:04] oh there is an automatic git build === alkisg1 is now known as alkisg [11:04] maybe try the edge channel [11:08] anbox relies very closely on kernel features that IIRC have been changed/dropped in 5.15 or so [11:08] (ashmem and binder modules) [11:10] Androidx86 may be an alternaive [11:13] hi [11:25] Hello my friends. I'm looking for help with a problem on my ubuntu, if anyone is willing and able: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2480500&p=14117718#post14117718. === mrelcee_ is now known as mrelcee [11:43] hi, are patches for openssl 3.0.x going to appear in jammy-security today right after upstream disclosure, or some day(s) later? [11:46] jelly: alkisg1: yes, 22.04 has openssl3, which will receive the update === Guest9635 is now known as gr33n7007h [11:48] that's not really the answer they are looking for [11:48] yes, the update will come, but no idea when [11:51] we have #ubuntu-release where packages showup for release [11:57] well, "for upload" ... [11:58] just wait. they will not hack your servers within 2 hours [11:58] shhh :p [12:01] lotuspsychje, that does not answer my question, which was "when" [12:02] "when" its done [12:02] ravage, it's likely already done and ready. [12:02] that's how embargos work. [12:02] "when" it happens [12:02] when is a matter of policy [12:02] if you prefer that [12:03] if you don't know, you don't have to comment. My question was very specific. [12:04] the actual release has not even happened yet. expect the patches for all major linux dists shortly after that. there is no specific release time [12:06] ravage, that's not how high profile security issues are handled. OS, distro and appliance vendors' security teams have advance knowledge of patches, they prepare and test fixes in private and synchronize their releases to upstream. [12:07] Hello. Does anyone have an idea, why Ubuntu 22.10 live keeps contacting googleusercontent.com every now and then? [12:08] laerling, probably because you open a website that loads content from there [12:08] Sorry, forgot to mention: There is no browser open and no firefox process running, I made sure. [12:08] Only things I have open are terminal with tcpdump and the systems process monitor [12:09] probably connectivity-check.ubuntu.com [12:10] can you help me find anyone to help me fixing an anbox problem? nobody answers in their channel [12:10] gneeriiloeepdeer, see our messages above [12:11] ravage: I thought that too, but the two aren't contacted at the same time or right after another, but at different intervals. [12:12] a mostly helpful answer [12:12] well. take "mostly helpful" or no answer at al in the other channel. your choice :) [12:16] Hi! Is there a way to change which compression method dpkg-deb uses per default? === gschanuel2 is now known as gschanuel [12:22] tobikoch, it should work as an option in your rules file [12:22] override_dh_builddeb: [12:22] dh_builddeb -- -Zgzip [12:23] ravage: it'd be great if I could do it centrally and not update all my source packages, which I build across a bunch of Debian/Ubuntu versions. [12:23] or build a wrapper script that adds -Zgzip and add it to your local path [12:23] Hm, that´s a nifty idea. [12:31] Depends on your build env, you could "hotpatch" dh_builddeb too. >_> [12:51] Hello IRC :D [12:51] Hi all [12:52] i have a request. can we call the new openssl vuln SSLURKER [12:55] abstentions are treated as silent consent === diskin is now known as Guest563 === diskin_ is now known as diskin === realivanjx9 is now known as realivanjx [13:20] yokatzl, i fear no one of us has a say in that ... vulnerabilities are like unknown animals or comets ... the finder gets the honor to name it [13:21] ogra: they left [13:21] that is true, however, i cannot agree with this in this case [13:21] oh, maybe not [13:21] 😄 [13:28] feel free to try to call it whatever you like :) if you make a nice enough logo and theme song it might even catch on [13:29] Of all the vuln names, I personally liked SHA1‾TERED the best (I tried to replicate the logo and did a bad job of it) [13:29] Anyway, off-topic. [13:52] SSLurker logo: https://i.ibb.co/bBd1gY9/Microsoft-Teams-image-5.png [13:53] hello,. is there any lubuntu support chat ? [13:53] !lubuntu [13:53] lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support. [13:54] thankyou [14:02] If someone runs "ubuntu-bug linux", will that automatically attach hardware info to the bug report? [14:08] arraybolt3: yeah, it'll grab a bunch of the useful outputs [14:08] sarnold: Thanks, that will help me give good instructions for helping someone with a kernel bug report (if they choose to report the bug). [14:09] arraybolt3: yay :) it really is useful to have all that stuff available; even if 95% of it isn't useful, which 5% is useful changes from bug report to bug report :) hehe === ubuntu is now known as Guest4437 [14:16] ravage: that worked out great, thanks! [14:17] tobikoch, great :) [14:18] any reason these arent upgraded but held: gir1.2-mutter-10, gnome-shell, gnome-shell-common, grub-efi-amd64-bin, grub-efi-amd64-signed, libmutter-10-0, mutter-common [14:18] ? [14:18] !phasedupdates Guest49 [14:18] !phasedupdates | Guest49 [14:18] Guest49: Since Ubuntu 21.04, APT now implements phased updates. This can hold back updates on some systems while they are being phased in. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhasedUpdates for more info. [14:18] thanks :P [14:19] oh ok thanks [14:24] Thoughts on IRQbalance? some people are saying i should remove it, but it comes auto with ubuntu? [14:25] I have the impression that people that want to squeeze the last 5% performance out of their systems will do better to remove it; but it's not horrible to have it installed, and might prevent some larger performance problems by being present [14:26] if you're prepared to balance your irqs for your workload, system architecture, etc, then go ahead and remove it; if you don't already steer your irqs and applications, feel free to ignore it entirely === Xeon3D3 is now known as Xeon3D === yokatzl_ is now known as yokatzl [14:58] Hi, is there an easy way to arrange applications by category? Other desktop environments have an application menu where apps are classified into different categories [14:59] I really miss this, I think it was one of the cool things of Ubuntu (and Linux in general) - rather than dumping all the apps into the same box and "good luck locating your app", there was this category thing with like "office, network, development, multimedia..." [15:01] cousteau: locating applications is easy using the search options in the application menu [15:02] (in unrelated news, I also missed a lot the option to expand folders from within the list view in the file browser... just to realize this option wasn't removed, just disabled by default, and I'm so angry for no realizing until now) === realivanjx5 is now known as realivanjx [15:03] domhnall: perhaps (although rather slow specially when connected remotely with a slow remote desktop connection)... But I was more interested on the ability to DISCOVER installed applications [15:03] cousteau: `dpkg -l` [15:04] Like "oh, this freshly installed Ubuntu comes with a bunch of games and office applications", or "oh, the sys admin just installed Random Program X, cool!" [15:05] It's actually one of the things that made me fall in love with Ubuntu, the neat organization of the desktop system (and the many useful apps installed by default) [15:06] domhnall: that command doesn't display anything useful, to be honest [15:06] greetings, whenever I copy in my terminal and paste, it pastes 2 copies. It doesn't do that in gui. It's driving me crazy. [15:07] Just an excessively verbose list of not only "applications" but also libraries, daemons, command line utilities, icon themes, desktop environments... [15:07] iomari891: which terminal application? === demonTal is now known as dTal [15:08] And how are you pasting? Ctrl-V? Ctrl-Shift-V? Middle-click? Right-click and "Paste"? [15:10] shift+insert? [15:10] Assuming you're using the "normal" Gnome Terminal (and not a tty or some other weird thing), copying with Ctrl-Shift-C and pasting with Ctrl-Shift-V should work [15:11] Or Ctrl-Insert / Shift-Insert (these are the "vintage" shortcuts I always forget) [15:12] Or simply selecting text, which will automatically copy it to the "primary buffer", and then paste it by middle-clicking [15:13] I like that way of copy pasting, but it's a bit problematic sometimes, for example if you accidentally select something else in between [15:16] back in the nineties, I switched to linux from windows because I preferred the x11 copy-and-paste behaviour :) it felt nicer to skip the explicit "copy" step [15:18] I think there are programs for that in Windows... But you probably don't want to go installing random software that does weird stuff like that, specially in Windows [15:19] But yeah I middle click a lot. I even mapped middle click to two-finger tap and right click to three-finger because I use the former way more often [15:19] To paste, open in new tab, close tab, close window... [15:20] cousteau: all of them [15:20] ("close window" is in xfce, you can tell it to make middle clicking a window button in the window list to close it) [15:20] iomari891: weird [15:21] And are you copying it from the terminal and pasting it to the terminal? [15:21] cousteau: ctrl-v, mouse, rit-click [15:21] right-click [15:21] very [15:21] Or copying it from some other application? [15:21] if I paste in ut, all is well [15:21] gui [15:21] damn typos [15:22] cousteau: yeah I tried a 'focus follows mouse' plugin for windows back in the day, it really didn't work great [15:22] Do you have another app that may be interfering with your clipboard? [15:22] no idea [15:22] sarnold: I never enabled that, but the "focus but don't pop up windows when clicking on them" feature is quite nice [15:23]